Glenheron - do you like living there?

22-10-2019 4:23pm

Blandpebbles wrote: »

As a child of a council estate I have fond experiences of it but also the drive to better myself.

A small house, meager living all inspire. There are plenty of successful, thriving council estates in Greystones.

Giving someone the same house as that bought by someone working hard and paying taxes only engenders a lack of drive to excel and causes animosity in the neighbourhood.

Unfortunately the council seem not to favor the open building of council estates but rather the back door approach of buying houses in new or established estates e.g. Glenheron and Charlesland.

I would be interested to hear your views on why lovely 3 bed semis not near the school or main road in Glenheron are not selling.

Nice dodge, I see my questions remain unanswered.

For clarity my questions were:
what should society do with these people in your opinion??? Where should they live in your opinion?

22-10-2019 4:40pm

Blandpebbles wrote: »

I answered you.

No, you had a rant but didn’t offer any answers to my questions. I still don’t know what you would suggest. I see that you feel begrudged.

Seems like you are extremely happy with 'these people' living next to you.

To date I have no issues with anyone in my estate. Hopefully it stays that way. So yes I’m quite content.

awec · 22-10-2019 5:01pm

Social housing is unlikely to be the reason Glenheron isn't selling those few houses. All the other developments in Greystones that have it are selling no bother.

Not really sure why Blandpebbles is being so secretive, they posted a few weeks ago they bought a house in Waverly.

awec · 22-10-2019 5:46pm

Blandpebbles wrote: »

What other developments are selling no bother?

And I am mysterious

Seagreen and Churchlands for example.

Waverly has a large field behind it, owned by Cairn Homes, zoned for residential development, and that will definitely have social housing in it if it goes ahead.

awec · 22-10-2019 5:58pm

Blandpebbles wrote: »

Seagreen currently has 5 houses for sale however none of these houses currently border social housing. Social housing is being built on other side of road, in, one might say, it's own estate.

Churchlands has no confirmed sales as yet only some booking deposits and they have not communicated which houses are social but the two rows are not currently bordering social housing based on the site plan as they back on to fields.

The Cairn homes area is a separate estate which will which will border the top row of houses in Waverly but be separate by estate walls i.e. not in Waverly.

Yes, and across the road the houses had no problem selling.

People have booked houses in Churchlands knowing there is social housing going in there, exact same as they did in Seagreen.

It may be a "separate" estate, but I am pretty sure that Waverly has no mgmt fees so will be handed over to Wicklow CoCo when it's done, so there is nothing to stop the entrance to this new estate being within Waverly.

awec · 22-10-2019 6:09pm

Blandpebbles wrote: »

My point is none of these estates have social housing adjoining other houses as it does in Glenheron.

Waverly has already been taken over by the council and the entrance to the Cairn estate will be via the field oppposite Redford cemetery. This is to alleviate congestion on the Delgany road.

Yes they do. The social houses are literally joined on to houses that are not social houses.

In fact, in Seagreen, the houses in the same cul-de-sacs as the social houses were among the very first to sell.

I'm not dismissing your concern, I just don't see it as as big a deal and nor do others and I don't believe it's the reason Glenheron has those houses left. These social gaffs don't mean you're getting a family on the dole in beside you. These will be working families with lower incomes.

Blandpebbles · 22-10-2019 7:17pm

awec wrote: »

Yes they do. The social houses are literally joined on to houses that are not social houses.

In fact, in Seagreen, the houses in the same cul-de-sacs as the social houses were among the very first to sell.

I'm not dismissing your concern, I just don't see it as as big a deal and nor do others and I don't believe it's the reason Glenheron has those houses left. These social gaffs don't mean you're getting a family on the dole in beside you. These will be working families with lower incomes.

That’s grand I can respect your opinion.

Cluster · 23-10-2019 8:26am

Blandpebbles wrote: »

That’s grand I can respect your opinion.

Just zero respect for Social housing families. Your veil has well and truly slipped

23-10-2019 9:07am

Blandpebbles wrote: »

I think closing out a debate with a healthy respect for others opinions would have been enough but you have to come back with some nonsense.

It might be an idea to have respect for other people too, including those that live in social housing.

This sort of statement shows a lack of respect: “Well if by negative you mean not willing to shell out 450k or more for somewhere that is possibly problematic then guilty.

Honestly, why would i choose to live in a potentially troublesome environment?”.

In the real world “potentially troublesome environments” are not confined to social housing.

Captcha · 23-10-2019 9:49am

Why are the final houses not selling in this estate?

What do you think the effect will be of the school / creche will do at the roundabout / glenheron entrace where it is being built?

23-10-2019 10:15am

Blandpebbles wrote: »

There is little point in debating further with this form of faux outrage brow beating going on.

Nice dodge of your own suggestion for “healthy respect”.

You should start a “Make Greystones great again” campaign by banning social housing

:D:D

Creamy Goodness · 23-10-2019 10:34am

Captcha wrote: »

Why are the final houses not selling in this estate?

I think it's simply down to a few things.

1. They've reached the saturation point of the people who have the money to buy in Glenheron. The estate is huge, some don't like this, some it doesn't suit due to public transport needs or whatever.
2. Perhaps people have seen there's newer estates around, have better introductory deals, i.e. it's better value to be in phase 1 than a final phase etc.
3. The housing market is approaching a funny phase at the moment, prices have started to stabilise.
4. Brexit is an uncertainty, many potential buyers could work for British companies or majority of their company's business is with the UK and thus they're sitting out buying for a while.

Captcha · 23-10-2019 11:28am

Creamy Goodness wrote: »

I think it's simply down to a few things.

1. They've reached the saturation point of the people who have the money to buy in Glenheron. The estate is huge, some don't like this, some it doesn't suit due to public transport needs or whatever.
2. Perhaps people have seen there's newer estates around, have better introductory deals, i.e. it's better value to be in phase 1 than a final phase etc.
3. The housing market is approaching a funny phase at the moment, prices have started to stabilise.
4. Brexit is an uncertainty, many potential buyers could work for British companies or majority of their company's business is with the UK and thus they're sitting out buying for a while.

Thanks for taking the time to reply in detail.

I bought a 4 bed semi there in the past couple of months, just worried about the comments in this thread

Creamy Goodness · 23-10-2019 11:48am

Captcha wrote: »

Thanks for taking the time to reply in detail.

I bought a 4 bed semi there in the past couple of months, just worried about the comments in this thread

Don't let one data point ruin what will be an exciting time for you. There's lots to love about Glenheron.

Blandpebbles · 23-10-2019 12:00pm

Creamy Goodness wrote: »

Don't let one data point ruin what will be an exciting time for you. There's lots to love about Glenheron.

Also don't let people who are not currently buyers or have no experience of reviewing Glenheron as a possible purchase put you off.

They are lovely houses and everyone has different opinions of what they want in a house and locale.

Like every house what's right for some isn't for others.

Captcha · 23-10-2019 1:32pm

Blandpebbles wrote: »

Also don't let people who are not currently buyers or have no experience of reviewing Glenheron as a possible purchase put you off.

They are lovely houses and everyone has different opinions of what they want in a house and locale.

Like every house what's right for some isn't for others.

Thanks for the reassurance, mainly worried now about the school and what it will be like to exit at that roundabout from Glenheron park.

Don't Chute! · 23-10-2019 3:34pm

Blandpebbles is a gas character altogether! Three or four people who live in Glenheron have told them there is no problem, nothing to see here but still they keep up this nonsense about social housing! It’s not a problem, stop trying to make it one.

Cluster · 23-10-2019 3:57pm

Captcha wrote: »

Thanks for taking the time to reply in detail.

I bought a 4 bed semi there in the past couple of months, just worried about the comments in this thread

You've heard from people who live there who say its lovely. Dont let one posters comments colour your view.

Blandpebbles · 23-10-2019 4:14pm

Don't Chute! wrote: »

Blandpebbles is a gas character altogether! Three or four people who live in Glenheron have told them there is no problem, nothing to see here but still they keep up this nonsense about social housing! It’s not a problem, stop trying to make it one.

Incorrect. Two people who have commented do not live in Glenheron and have no interest in purchasing there. They have no actual basis for making statements that all is ok. They have spoken to no one who lives there.

One commentator even stated they have no issue with social housing but then pointed out they bought in an estate which has no social housing... hmmm

A simple search in boards shows the reality of people who would not live near social housing and yet the faux news continues to be broadcast in this thread.

Yet this seems to validate all their comments. Perhaps they are both working for SF.

Also you are Gas!

Fite Fuaite · 08-11-2019 6:26pm

I live in Glenheron and I live next door to a lady and her son who obtained the house through Social Housing. We have had absolutely zero negative issues.

Blandpebbles wrote: »

Well if by negative you mean not willing to shell out 450k or more for somewhere that is possibly problematic then guilty.

Honestly, why would i choose to live in a potentially troublesome environment?

The residents we spoke to, came out to us when they saw us looking around and readily offered their opinions. This was very generous and honest given they had just bought. To quote one of them 'we saved all our money to get away from this type of things and then we find them living next door..'

Social housing is just one factor in us deciding not to buy there. I covered the others above.

There are new estates in Greystones that have neither social housing or maintenance charge.

To confirm, you would be quite happy to live next to social housing?

D10NY5U5 · 09-11-2019 5:31am

Fite Fuaite wrote: »

I live in Glenheron and I live next door to a lady and her son who obtained the house through Social Housing. We have had absolutely zero negative issues.

I have read, with much fascination, BlandPebbles’ posts over the last few weeks and months. I have wondered if in real life he, or she, is as passive aggressive as they are on boards.ie, or is it just their online persona. Or do they just have a big chip on their shoulder? Or are they just a good old fashioned troll using “faux” methods as they would call it?

I don’t know why anyone gives them oxygen on here.

I haven’t bought a house in any of the new developments mentioned, It’s been a long time since I did buy a house. I use boards.ie to keep up to date on the local area.

But what I do recall about buying a house is that it is a very stressful time and the last thing you need is someone like Blandpebbles, online or off.
A person who seems to delight in subtly prodding and poking and causing upset in others. Thinly veiled in a pretence of honest debate and opinion.

So whether they are a troll, or passive aggressive, or genuinely and unfortunately just wired like this, the one positive I would take is that they haven’t bought in Glen Heron! One less risk that you don’t have to live next door to such a manipulative and negative influence.

Their very username and the fact you cannot see their previous posts easily through the boards.ie search function tells you all you need to know.

It would be funny, only I can see from some responses that it is causing upset and worry.

Mental health is an important focus these days and house buying is one of the most stressful events in anyone’s life. It’s a pity people like BlandPebbles don’t realise the potential impact they may have on people by this behaviour, what I consider to be the worst form of trolling.

So I would treat this boards.ie member just as I said: a troll. But a potentially bad one. Indeed the worst kind.

And don’t feed them anymore oxygen.

lfen · 11-11-2019 2:10am

Just came across another planning application for Glenheron, ref sh201904. It was only submitted in the last couple of weeks. Seems they are building a lot more houses, apartments etc. Anyone have any further information? Not too familiar with the area but have visited Glenheron a few times and can’t see where the land is to build all these houses.

Annasopra · 11-11-2019 10:50am

Mod

Blandpebbles you are clearly trolling this thread non stop. Dont post in it again. Everyone else please report posts where you feel there is trolling and discuss the topic not another poster. Feedback on moderation as always only by PM.

pixbyjohn · 12-11-2019 12:04am

lfen wrote: »

Just came across another planning application for Glenheron, ref sh201904. It was only submitted in the last couple of weeks. Seems they are building a lot more houses, apartments etc. Anyone have any further information? Not too familiar with the area but have visited Glenheron a few times and can’t see where the land is to build all these houses.

The site is on the same side as the Gym, between the gym and Seabourne apartments I think.

https://www.google.com/maps/@53.1239517,-6.0661141,3a,75y,90h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sGSdBPOEush9dy49ZJBMLIw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

loyatemu · 12-11-2019 10:37am

lfen wrote: »

Just came across another planning application for Glenheron, ref sh201904. It was only submitted in the last couple of weeks. Seems they are building a lot more houses, apartments etc. Anyone have any further information? Not too familiar with the area but have visited Glenheron a few times and can’t see where the land is to build all these houses.

pixbyjohn wrote: »

The site is on the same side as the Gym, between the gym and Seabourne apartments I think.

https://www.google.com/maps/@53.1239517,-6.0661141,3a,75y,90h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sGSdBPOEush9dy49ZJBMLIw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

and there's a website (as there is for all these Strategic Housing applications):
https://www.cairngreystonesshd.com/

described as "Glenheron C" which makes it sound like a nuclear power plant.

lfen · 12-11-2019 11:38am

I had actually come across that website but it seemed to be linked to their Farrankelly development. The site location also looks to be the same site as Farrankelly... Very confused altogether now.

Annasopra · 12-11-2019 11:50am

lfen wrote: »

I had actually come across that website but it seemed to be linked to their Farrankelly development. The site location also looks to be the same site as Farrankelly... Very confused altogether now.

No not Farrankelly

https://www.cairngreystonesshd.com/full-notice

loyatemu · 12-11-2019 11:51am

lfen wrote: »

I had actually come across that website but it seemed to be linked to their Farrankelly development. The site location also looks to be the same site as Farrankelly... Very confused altogether now.

Farrankelly is a different application and website
https://www.farrankellyshdplanning.com/

Glenheron C is across the road from Charlesland and Glenheron View, so on the left as you drive towards the N11.

lfen · 12-11-2019 12:44pm

Thanks guys. I’ll pop down today and have a look ðŸ˜€

Captcha · 12-11-2019 5:23pm

The m11 is already gridlock!

Also that entry on to m11 will lock up too... will need to be upgraded for the the greystones developments!

Don't Chute! · 13-11-2019 1:53pm

Captcha wrote: »

The m11 is already gridlock!

Also that entry on to m11 will lock up too... will need to be upgraded for the the greystones developments!

So what, no houses built anywhere south of Bray? I live in Glenheron I work in Skerries and I’m usually home by about 5-30 in the evening. I must be doing something wrong considering all the hysteria over the M11 in Greystones.

jobless · 13-11-2019 3:13pm

Don't Chute! wrote: »

So what, no houses built anywhere south of Bray? I live in Glenheron I work in Skerries and I’m usually home by about 5-30 in the evening. I must be doing something wrong considering all the hysteria over the M11 in Greystones.

what time do you leave Skerries at though

...3.30?

Captcha · 14-11-2019 10:16am

Don't Chute! wrote: »

So what, no houses built anywhere south of Bray? I live in Glenheron I work in Skerries and I’m usually home by about 5-30 in the evening. I must be doing something wrong considering all the hysteria over the M11 in Greystones.

If you are home by 5:30 and start very early then maybe you miss it.... This week has been a shambles on the m11 if you start working at 9am and finish at 5.30pm

14-11-2019 4:13pm

Don't Chute! wrote: »

So what, no houses built anywhere south of Bray? I live in Glenheron I work in Skerries and I’m usually home by about 5-30 in the evening. I must be doing something wrong considering all the hysteria over the M11 in Greystones.

Either you are traveling by helicopter or you leave Skerries very early. I work in Tallaght and the traffic has been even worse than normal all week, particularly going home. My times leaving work have varied from 5pm to 6:30pm and each day has been a sh!t show.

lfen · 14-11-2019 4:18pm

Traffic is an issue in most places. I live a 7 minute drive away from where I work, but it takes 25 minutes during peak hours. Traffic issues aren’t specific to Glenheron, or Delgany for that matter!

14-11-2019 6:39pm

lfen wrote: »

Traffic is an issue in most places. I live a 7 minute drive away from where I work, but it takes 25 minutes during peak hours. Traffic issues aren’t specific to Glenheron, or Delgany for that matter!

You are correct but it would be no harm to think about the logic of building so many homes so far from places of employment while developers are allowed to sit on land banks close to employment.

Cerco · 14-11-2019 9:18pm

Looks like another 200 houses on the old Delgany convent site as per Irish Times today. Sold for €15m to a local builder.

https://www.e-pages.dk/irishtimes/1953/article/1004830/37/5/render/?token=560482abf29b4edec7922385a967833f

Annasopra · 14-11-2019 10:43pm

lfen wrote: »

Traffic is an issue in most places. I live a 7 minute drive away from where I work, but it takes 25 minutes during peak hours. Traffic issues aren’t specific to Glenheron, or Delgany for that matter!

No but there has been a large increase in traffic in the greater Greystones area in the last few years.

Cheeseplant · 02-12-2019 10:12am

Hi All,
Those that have bought recently can you tell me if you have needed to have your current house sold/ be sale agreed at time of booking the house?
The last time we went looking at new houses in 2016 they were very particular about having our house sale agreed or sold despite not being able to guaranteed when they would be issuing contracts...

Earlsie · 03-12-2019 9:53pm

I noticed on the way into Glenherron (phase 1) houses there are 5 or 6 houses with the stone cladding removed as well as windows removed and boarded up. Looks like some heafty repair works.

Any idea what's going on.

Cheers.

lakeroad · 03-12-2019 11:41pm

Earlsie wrote: »

I noticed on the way into Glenherron (phase 1) houses there are 5 or 6 houses with the stone cladding removed as well as windows removed and boarded up. Looks like some heafty repair works.

Any idea what's going on.

Cheers.

Supposedly there’s major issues with water penetration into the interior of the house’s and issues with the air tightness.

Captcha · 04-12-2019 5:17pm

lakeroad wrote: »

Supposedly there’s major issues with water penetration into the interior of the house’s and issues with the air tightness.

Can you provide more information on this?

How would you test the Air Tightness?

Know anyone who experienced these things and could shed some more light please?

Don't Chute! · 04-12-2019 10:16pm

The cladding has been falling off some of the houses and is being replaced. Nothing to do with water penetration or air-tightness.

lakeroad · 04-12-2019 10:29pm

Captcha wrote: »

Can you provide more information on this?

How would you test the Air Tightness?

Know anyone who experienced these things and could shed some more light please?

You’re better off speaking with a foreman onsite for more info

lakeroad · 04-12-2019 10:34pm

Don't Chute! wrote: »

The cladding has been falling off some of the houses and is being replaced. Nothing to do with water penetration or air-tightness.

That sounds like a bit of a cover up

Creamy Goodness · 04-12-2019 10:36pm

lakeroad wrote: »

You’re better off speaking with a foreman onsite for more info

The foreman will give you zero information unless you are in one of the affected houses or at the very least living in Glenheron.

Don't Chute! · 04-12-2019 10:37pm

lakeroad wrote: »

That sounds like a bit of a cover up

It’s not.

Spipov · 05-12-2019 11:16am

Don't Chute! wrote: »

It’s not.

correct. cladding falling off. this was prepared off site and brought in, not done 1 by 1 when building houses.

no reports of water leakage or air tightness. would not be affected by cladding.

artvandelay48 · 05-12-2019 4:22pm

lakeroad wrote: »

That sounds like a bit of a cover up

Hopefully they'll wrap up the work before christmas.

Gforcemurphy · 07-12-2019 1:25am

artvandelay48 wrote: »

Hopefully they'll wrap up the work before christmas.

BANTERRRR!!!! ðŸ€ª

Glenheron - do you like living there?

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