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Glenheron - do you like living there?

  • 14-05-2019 10:00pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 100 ✭✭


    The title says it all really - we are thinking of buying a bungalow at glenheron and would like to know if other people enjoy living there? How do you find the location? Any regrets? Is there a sense of community?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,250 ✭✭✭pixbyjohn


    Glenheron Residents Greystones have a Facebook page.

    Greystones, Ireland · This group is about the Glenheron estate, Kilcoole road, Greystones. As the estate is in its early stages of construction, let's share news, pictures about construction progress, floor plans, any queries, delivery dates or upcoming events. #cairn #cairnhomes #Killinca...
    30 members said that they live in Greystones, Ireland


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,215 ✭✭✭Sunrise_Sunset


    I know a couple of people living there, and they are happy. No complaints. I live close by. The area is lovely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Don't Chute!


    We moved in back in April and we love it. We are in the Walk and have no problems at all. Neighbors mostly seem fine. I’d recommend joining the group mentioned above, has a lot of potentially helpful info on it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,999 ✭✭✭Spipov


    We are planning to buy soon. Houses are going pretty fast. One closed secret from estate agent is what is the spec of the houses

    Ie i dont know what floor is there or not, does the kitchen have tiles, garden is only soil oe has grass

    I dont know room dimensions so cant quotes for flooring, but again not sure whats offered.

    Can anybosy help with that?

    Re the heating, what system is used, how modern is if in terms of its features, and are the solar panels useful and what is it used for? Ie heat water/ electricity?

    Thanks for helping putting a booking deposit this week.

    Dont know if properties are ready in the walk but need it later in a few months as still have a lease but had go get into buying as few houses left and dont want to be in the park


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 189 ✭✭ned14


    We moved in last December to Glenheron View, love the place so far and the houses are very well designed and finish quality is excellent.
    The brochure for the estate has a list of what is included in the houses. Page 40: http://print.cairnhomes.com/the-view/
    Flooring: None except for tiled bathrooms. Fully fitted with good quality tiling.
    Heating: 2 zone gas heating, I think the Dormers and Bungalows may have underfloor heating.
    Solar panels supplement electrical power only. No hot water heating from them as their PV panels. With 6 panels fitted, the system produces a max. of 1000w, probably limited by the inverter output.
    Gardens are seeded but soil quality is quite poor. Shrubs, trees and other flowers are planted front and back.

    In terms of living there, we had a BBQ on the green area over the bank holiday weekend and everyone came out for it which was fantastic to meet more of the neighbours. Cairn even supplied some tables, chairs, a photographer and the surprise ice cream van. Also had a meet up around Christmas when a bunch of us moved in. Overall. I don't think there could be a nicer bunch of people in the estate.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,999 ✭✭✭Spipov


    ned14 wrote: »
    We moved in last December to Glenheron View, love the place so far and the houses are very well designed and finish quality is excellent.
    The brochure for the estate has a list of what is included in the houses. Page 40: http://print.cairnhomes.com/the-view/
    Flooring: None except for tiled bathrooms. Fully fitted with good quality tiling.
    Heating: 2 zone gas heating, I think the Dormers and Bungalows may have underfloor heating.
    Solar panels supplement electrical power only. No hot water heating from them as their PV panels. With 6 panels fitted, the system produces a max. of 1000w, probably limited by the inverter output.
    Gardens are seeded but soil quality is quite poor. Shrubs, trees and other flowers are planted front and back.

    In terms of living there, we had a BBQ on the green area over the bank holiday weekend and everyone came out for it which was fantastic to meet more of the neighbours. Cairn even supplied some tables, chairs, a photographer and the surprise ice cream van. Also had a meet up around Christmas when a bunch of us moved in. Overall. I don't think there could be a nicer bunch of people in the estate.

    Thank you for the feedback, community sounds great, would have hoped for slightly more from cairn in terms of fixtures.

    Can i confirm then that the kitchen has no floor?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 189 ✭✭ned14


    No flooring in the kitchen. But it makes sense since there's no clear line where the kitchen ends and living area starts. Most people laid the same floor throughout.

    You do get an integrated Hob, double oven, microwave, fridge-freezer & dishwasher (all Neff/Siemens).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,999 ✭✭✭Spipov


    ned14 wrote: »
    No flooring in the kitchen. But it makes sense since there's no clear line where the kitchen ends and living area starts. Most people laid the same floor throughout.

    You do get an integrated Hob, double oven, microwave, fridge-freezer & dishwasher (all Neff/Siemens).

    Thank you. More cost to add to it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,326 ✭✭✭Blingy


    Spipov wrote: »
    Thank you. More cost to add to it.

    You will find most new developments don’t provide flooring. Maybe tiles in bathrooms but that’s about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,584 ✭✭✭✭Creamy Goodness


    Choice of flooring is such a subjective thing, no point providing something that people will probably want to rip out anyways.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 710 ✭✭✭Blandpebbles


    Hi All,
    Looking at purchasing in Glenheron. There are approximately 22 houses still for sale of various types so we are trying to decide which is best, as everyone does.

    Apart from the aspect (sunlight) we are a little concerned over a few things -

    1. The impact of social housing in the estate - a lot of the houses still for sale border on to these. Talking to a few residents they have said they do notice noise, the odd party and swearing coming from houses and gardens. Most we talked to were not aware of the social housing until they had purchased.

    2. The proposed walkways between Charlesland and Glenheron - the council are planning to knock down the walls between both in certain areas to facilitate the flow of people for schools access etc..

    3. The maintenance charge associated with the houses - What experience does the management company have? Some areas still look a little rough.

    I would be interested to get feedback on the above. We love the estate so not looking at bashing it in anyway and feel these are legitimate questions to ask.

    Thanks in advance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,584 ✭✭✭✭Creamy Goodness


    Minimum 10% of housing in new estates have to be made available for social housing. You’ll get it pretty much anywhere where there’s a legit builder involved (there’s ways around it if you believe the whispers)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,326 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    Hi All,

    2. The proposed walkways between Charlesland and Glenheron - the council are planning to knock down the walls between both in certain areas to facilitate the flow of people for schools access etc.

    the site layout plans are on wicklow.ie planning section. Also worth looking at the plans for the primary school which show some of the access routes from Charlesland. It's works both way, it means you'll be able to walk to the shops, bookies etc without having to go all the way around.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,584 ✭✭✭✭Creamy Goodness


    loyatemu wrote: »
    the site layout plans are on wicklow.ie planning section. Also worth looking at the plans for the primary school which show some of the access routes from Charlesland. It's works both way, it means you'll be able to walk to the shops, bookies etc without having to go all the way around.

    Also it's Charlesland, it's not exactly Baghdad, it's hardly going to cause much issue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Don't Chute!


    Hi All,
    Looking at purchasing in Glenheron. There are approximately 22 houses still for sale of various types so we are trying to decide which is best, as everyone does.

    Apart from the aspect (sunlight) we are a little concerned over a few things -

    1. The impact of social housing in the estate - a lot of the houses still for sale border on to these. Talking to a few residents they have said they do notice noise, the odd party and swearing coming from houses and gardens. Most we talked to were not aware of the social housing until they had purchased.

    2. The proposed walkways between Charlesland and Glenheron - the council are planning to knock down the walls between both in certain areas to facilitate the flow of people for schools access etc..

    3. The maintenance charge associated with the houses - What experience does the management company have? Some areas still look a little rough.

    I would be interested to get feedback on the above. We love the estate so not looking at bashing it in anyway and feel these are legitimate questions to ask.

    Thanks in advance.

    Sorry but I don’t understand this post at all. Where is this social housing that the houses border on to? Is it only people who live in social housing that ever make noise and swear? Don’t know what walls are being pulled down. What areas look a bit rough? Maybe the area around the Shoreline roundabout? That area isn’t finished yet. Very odd post.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,641 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    The impact of social housing in the estate - a lot of the houses still for sale border on to these. Talking to a few residents they have said they do notice noise, the odd party and swearing coming from houses and gardens. Most we talked to were not aware of the social housing until they had purchased.

    Is there no way of shielding yourself from the riff raff? :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 710 ✭✭✭Blandpebbles


    Sorry but I don’t understand this post at all. Where is this social housing that the houses border on to? Is it only people who live in social housing that ever make noise and swear? Don’t know what walls are being pulled down. What areas look a bit rough? Maybe the area around the Shoreline roundabout? That area isn’t finished yet. Very odd post.

    Not sure why you are getting angry as the social housing is clearly marked on the plans and on the sherry fitz brochure. They are placed bordering a number of houses. The residents provided the feedback on the interactions. The walls being taken down are on the planning permission and show pathways in front of two sets of houses. Again I believe residents are objecting to these walkways but plan its to remove lengths of wall and replace with fences.
    Moderator can you lock this thread it has descended into vitriol almost immediately


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Don't Chute!


    Not sure why you are getting angry as the social housing is clearly marked on the plans and on the sherry fitz brochure. They are placed bordering a number of houses. The residents provided the feedback on the interactions. The walls being taken down are on the planning permission and show pathways in front of two sets of houses. Again I believe residents are objecting to these walkways but plan its to remove lengths of wall and replace with fences.
    Moderator can you lock this thread it has descended into vitriol almost immediately

    Where did I get angry? I’m just pointing out that I live in Glenheron and don’t understand any of the points you’ve made. Residents comittee haven’t brought up anything about social housing or objections to walkways. Where are you getting your information from?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 710 ✭✭✭Blandpebbles


    Where did I get angry? I’m just pointing out that I live in Glenheron and don’t understand any of the points you’ve made. Residents comittee haven’t brought up anything about social housing or objections to walkways. Where are you getting your information from?

    Feedback directly from residents.

    Look I just asked questions based on their feedback. As a resident you have given your feedback so all valuable info. So thank you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 247 ✭✭Cluster


    Glenheron is mentioned in here, this is what the OP is talking about I imagine.

    https://www.tuathhousing.ie/about/about-tuath-housing/


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 196 ✭✭lfen


    Visited today and surprised that they still have 6 x 3 bed semi’s left. They seem to be on the market long enough too. Any idea why? What an I missing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 110 ✭✭lakeroad


    lfen wrote: »
    Visited today and surprised that they still have 6 x 3 bed semi’s left. They seem to be on the market long enough too. Any idea why? What an I missing?

    I think the new primary school which will have over 600-700 pupils may be putting off people due to the large number of car’s sharing the same road into the Glenheron. It will be a nightmare due to the narrow width of roads and minimal school parking which will lead to cars being abandoned within Glenheron during drop off and pick up times.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 710 ✭✭✭Blandpebbles


    See posts above.

    Schools is one issue others covered above.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 196 ✭✭lfen


    Thanks all. Seems social housing is also an issue as such. Why more so with this estate though?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 110 ✭✭lakeroad


    lfen wrote: »
    Thanks all. Seems social housing is also an issue as such. Why more so with this estate though?

    Not sure why Social housing is considered an issue, I’d be more concerned about the unbuilt community centre which is to be built with the new crèche. The upkeep cost of the proposed community centre will be included in the Management fees for Glenheron


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 27 youknowitstrue


    lakeroad wrote: »
    Not sure why Social housing is considered an issue, I’d be more concerned about the unbuilt community centre which is to be built with the new crèche. The upkeep cost of the proposed community centre will be included in the Management fee for Glenheron
    Will those in social housing have to pay a Management fee, if not will they have access to the community centre?

    Will the Management fee be subsidizing the crèche in any way?

    Lovely houses, but all you need is a few bad apples in the social housing units and the word gets out , the value of the property dives, and you are stuck with the mortgage and cant sell at a price to get your money back


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,156 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Will those in social housing have to pay a Management fee, if not will they have access to the community centre?

    Will the Management fee be subsidizing the cre in any way?

    Lovely houses, but all you need is a few bad apples in the social housing units and the word gets out , the value of the property dives, and you are stuck with the mortgage and cant sell at a price to get your money back

    Heaven forbid. Its really disgraceful a lower classed person might live in Glenheron.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,156 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Also it's Charlesland, it's not exactly Baghdad, it's hardly going to cause much issue.

    Ah ya know. You cant have upper classed people hearing swearing.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,584 ✭✭✭✭Creamy Goodness


    You know what the council should do? Put them all into their own estate. That worked out well before didn’t it?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 196 ✭✭lfen


    Can anyone tell me what the management fees are in Glenheron?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 fleur86


    Heaven forbid. Its really disgraceful a lower classed person might live in Glenheron.

    All these comments are a bit bizarre, we moved in at the start of the summer in the Park, and all the social housing have already moved in. And in all the time there we've heard zero parties, zero noise, zero issues, everyone is lovely. And most of the houses have put in extra planting etc so they have their houses looking nicer than we do to be honest, so no idea where all that stuff is coming from.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 710 ✭✭✭Blandpebbles


    lfen wrote: »
    Can anyone tell me what the management fees are in Glenheron?

    We were advised approximately 450 per annum for a 3 bed semi.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 710 ✭✭✭Blandpebbles


    fleur86 wrote: »
    All these comments are a bit bizarre, we moved in at the start of the summer in the Park, and all the social housing have already moved in. And in all the time there we've heard zero parties, zero noise, zero issues, everyone is lovely. And most of the houses have put in extra planting etc so they have their houses looking nicer than we do to be honest, so no idea where all that stuff is coming from.

    Direct feedback from folks living there. As well as a degree of shock when they realized there was social housing in the estate. But that is their own fault for not doing their homework.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,641 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    Direct feedback from folks living there.

    Really?
    That is different to the direct feedback that I got, social housing wasn’t even mentioned. You seem to be the only poster on this thread with such a negative view of people that live in social housing. You do realize that the vast majority of new estates will contain social housing??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 710 ✭✭✭Blandpebbles


    2011 wrote: »
    Really?
    That is different to the direct feedback that I got, social housing wasn’t even mentioned. You seem to be the only poster on this thread with such a negative view of people that live in social housing. You do realize that the vast majority of new estates will contain social housing??

    Well if by negative you mean not willing to shell out 450k or more for somewhere that is possibly problematic then guilty.

    Honestly, why would i choose to live in a potentially troublesome environment?

    The residents we spoke to, came out to us when they saw us looking around and readily offered their opinions. This was very generous and honest given they had just bought. To quote one of them 'we saved all our money to get away from this type of things and then we find them living next door..'

    Social housing is just one factor in us deciding not to buy there. I covered the others above.

    There are new estates in Greystones that have neither social housing or maintenance charge.

    To confirm, you would be quite happy to live next to social housing?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,470 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus



    There are new estates in Greystones that have neither social housing or maintenance charge.

    generally to avoid social housing in a new estate you have to pay a lot more and they are normally much smaller (0-25 units).

    Unusual that there are new estates that are both without social housing and have no maintenance fee (i.e. the council is taking them in charge) id have thought that was a very unusual combo.

    which ones are they?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 710 ✭✭✭Blandpebbles


    Cyrus wrote: »
    generally to avoid social housing in a new estate you have to pay a lot more and they are normally much smaller (0-25 units).

    Unusual that there are new estates that are both without social housing and have no maintenance fee (i.e. the council is taking them in charge) id have thought that was a very unusual combo.

    which ones are they?

    If you call Sherry Fitz and ask which estates have neither they will tell you.

    We got a cancellation in one of them.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,641 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    Well if by negative you mean not willing to shell out 450k or more for somewhere that is possibly problematic then guilty.

    Honestly, why would i choose to live in a potentially troublesome environment?

    The residents we spoke to, came out to us when they saw us looking around and readily offered their opinions. This was very generous and honest given they had just bought. To quote one of them 'we saved all our money to get away from this type of things and then we find them living next door..'

    Unbelievable.

    How do you think society should deal with these people?
    To confirm, you would be quite happy to live next to social housing?

    There is social housing in my estate. No complaints form anyone in the estate that I am aware of. I have no issues whatsoever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,470 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    If you call Sherry Fitz and ask which estates have neither they will tell you.

    We got a cancellation in one of them.

    why dont you save me the call seeing as you have the information? no need to be coy im assuming its not confidential information.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 710 ✭✭✭Blandpebbles


    Cyrus wrote: »
    why dont you save me the call seeing as you have the information? no need to be coy im assuming its not confidential information.

    I did my due diligence when buying, cant recommend it enough. But would rather not have the general public know what estate i am in :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 710 ✭✭✭Blandpebbles


    2011 wrote: »
    Unbelievable.

    How do you think society should deal with these people?



    There is social housing in my estate. No complaints form anyone in the estate that I am aware of. I have no issues whatsoever.

    Nicely dodged.

    'I have no issues whatsoever..... living next door to social housing?'

    No doubt i will be seen as an elitist because i am honest as opposed to all this faux outrage.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,641 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    Nicely dodged.

    I don’t follow. You asked me a question, I answered. I will clarify further, I have no issues living beside social housing. Is that still a dodge??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,470 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    I did my due diligence when buying, cant recommend it enough. But would rather not have the general public know what estate i am in :)

    ive bought already and did my own due diligence, my estate doesnt have social housing either but it does have (a hefty) mgt charge which is why i doubt that there is a new estate being built that has neither.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 710 ✭✭✭Blandpebbles


    2011 wrote: »
    I don’t follow. You asked me a question, I answered. I will clarify further, I have no issues living beside social housing. Is that still a dodge??

    Well good for you. But from your messages you aren't living next door to them or in the position of house hunting, so it's just words.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,470 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    I guess you didn't check out ****** then, oooops, costly mistake.

    well not really as i didnt buy in greystones lovely town but too far out for me personally.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,641 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    But from your messages you aren't living next door to them

    Well I kind of do actually. My house backs onto theirs.

    You seem to have dodged my question, what should society do with these people in your opinion??? Where should they live in your opinion?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 fleur86


    Direct feedback from folks living there. As well as a degree of shock when they realized there was social housing in the estate. But that is their own fault for not doing their homework.

    Well we're living there and haven't heard or seen any of the issues you mention, or heard that opinion from any of our neighbours in the Park, unless it was an earlier phase you heard this in. Everyone seems happy where we are anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 196 ✭✭lfen


    It could be that the houses that are left in Glenheron are not shifting due to garden aspect. They are all North facing.

    We have been down 3 times at this stage and it seems like a lovely area.

    I also spoke with a resident and he felt that a lot of the “social housing” talk came from one resident in particular, which was then blown out of proportion. One of the examples he gave was that kids did a nick nock on this particular residents door and the guards were called.

    For anyone wondering, Farrankelly and Churchlands will have social housing. Don’t think Eastmount does.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,584 ✭✭✭✭Creamy Goodness


    lfen wrote: »
    It could be that the houses that are left in Glenheron are not shifting due to garden aspect. They are all North facing.

    We have been down 3 times at this stage and it seems like a lovely area.

    I also spoke with a resident and he felt that a lot of the “social housing” talk came from one resident in particular, which was then blown out of proportion. One of the examples he gave was that kids did a nick nock on this particular residents door and the guards were called.

    For anyone wondering, Farrankelly and Churchlands will have social housing. Don’t think Eastmount does.

    they called the guards over a nick nack? Seriously? It can't be that long since they've been kids.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 196 ✭✭lfen


    they called the guards over a nick nack? Seriously? It can't be that long since they've been kids.

    That’s what I’m told.

    A few minor burglaries also as in tools, bikes etc but that can happen anywhere and obviously isn’t related to social housing.


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