BusConnects Dublin - Bus Network Changes Discussion

I'm not a city planner though, so I of course have a bias and express my opinion. But city planners look at a bigger picture and consider many aspects, not just a one narrow aim to gain profit.

Mods can create a new thread and move the posts so we could continue.

Not necessarily bus connects related but interesting none the less, surveys on bus timings being done on O'connoll Street currently

I have observed a very interesting development online about the TFL bus service in London today.

They have a new express bus service called the Superloop. The route number for the service is the SL8 from Uxbridge to White City. The service is operated by Metroline. It serves stops like Hayes, Ealing Hospital and Ealing Broadway along the route. There is a big connection with Ealing Broadway on the route in that it connects with Crossrail, London Underground and Network Rail services.

All of the buses that are on this route have their own specific livery. It stops at designated Superloop branded bus stops. These Superloop bus stops can also connect with other TFL bus routes along the route.

If anyone here that tried route out in London. Would you not think if we had made other pieces of infrastructure like Dart+ Expansion/Dart+ Tunnel and Metrolink built and finished to complement the buses in Dublin City Centre. Do you not think that a smaller Superloop bus route should be setup for people who go around Dublin CC while created and funded by the NTA?

I know that we have the upcoming O route that is going to be run with Dublin Bus in the near future. But I am thinking more of a long term sustainable express route that can link up major rail stations and other major shopping and business facilities in Dublin.

EDIT: I've actually seen this on the TFL website. It is actually an incredible development in how you use the express bus routes in London. It is not just one route that creates the Superloop bus services. It is actually 10 express routes. Some of the routes are created from existing TFL bus routes.

Here is the map for the Superloop routes below. It actually looks like a clock on the wall. How amazing is that?

That is an interesting move for the S2. It is sensible in one way to move that over from Donnybrook to C/Road. I do get that the benefit of having to start the route from the depot nearby in C/Road. Although as C/Road is a much smaller depot than Donnybrook; will the PVR be big enough to run a full schedule on the S2 from C/Road instead of running it from Donnybrook?

W61 will be a heavily school time route, as it connects three secondary schools with places that may not have buses to them before.

It is currently waiting at stops a lot during low traffic periods

Double deckers

They were contracted for double-deckers from the very start, and I'd imagine the unified W6 could well justify them.

I think you wanted to ask if CNR will be large enough to support the S2 and not the other way around...

I slcan spot that it has the new Operator info in the timetable section as with the timetables in Carlow!

Had a quick look today, seems like the cycling part is largely abandoned in favour of on street parking and curiosly there's a long stretch of hatched central median instead of a proper width of cycle lane and no separation. As with the other corridors, all design manuals are ignored, multiple turning lanes for cars are provided at the expense of greater pedestrian space, even at city centre junctions.

I can't fathom why the NTA steadfastly rejects proper design in favour of greater car dominance, they even ignore their own published guidance. Anyway there's clearly no will on officialdom to tackle car dominance or provide usable sustainable transport infrastructure, but we'll still get whining about missed climate targets from our government in the media. They have the power and guidance to do what's required but they refuse and whinge afterwards.

the award for most likely to be ignored bus gates are in, there at the southwestern corner of the harolds x green, in both directions . Thats a primary route into town, not a side road or rat run , with the only alternatives being through terenure or via sundrive/cork street

Also the proposed no right turn onto the canal from Harolds X is madness - there's no other way to turn right for some distance in either direction unless you rat run down estates in Crumlin

Is there a possibility that ABP could reject BusConnects planning applications which don't comply with design guidance in relation to cycle lanes? I mean, could we potentially have multiple, or even all, applications sent back for redesign of particular elements, or even rejected outright?

It would actually be kind of funny if that happened. I guess we'd get a "heads up" from one of the earlier applications and then the NTA would have a decision to make as to whether it then preemptively withdraws the subsequent applications.

There was plans to have a bus route from Broombridge to Heuston but the Cabra gates are too narrow?

So this is a cutdown version only going from Parkgate to the Park. Better than nothing but a pity a proper route to link Broombridge and Heuston won't happen