Respawn Jedi Fallen Order

pixelburp · 18-06-2019 3:59pm

Shiminay wrote: »

All this Dark Souls talk is really turning me off, I find those games tedious and boring.

Same. I perked up over this game when I heard there more to it than the demo showed, but I generally keep my apathy towards the Souls games to myself. Just find their core loops tedious.

Retr0gamer · 18-06-2019 4:41pm

It all looks a bit meh to me and if Respawn weren't involved it would be totally off my radar.

Shiminay · 18-06-2019 5:03pm

Retr0gamer wrote: »

It all looks a bit meh to me and if Respawn weren't involved it would be totally off my radar.

Mostly agree. I'm a major Star Wars fan though and seeing Saw Gerrera in the demo perks me up. All these Uncharted comparisons don't mean a lot to me as I never played that series, but given how successful it was, maybe it's not a terrible comparison? But Dark Souls "git gud" combat - I'd rather stick forks in my legs

I have a limited time budget for gaming, I'd rather spend it on doing something enjoyable than frustrating.

Mr Crispy · 18-06-2019 5:24pm

As it so happens, Game Informer have a short vid talking a bit about the combat here (not posted to YouTube yet).

Venom · 18-06-2019 10:33pm

Retr0gamer wrote: »

It all looks a bit meh to me and if Respawn weren't involved it would be totally off my radar.

Shiminay wrote: »

Mostly agree. I'm a major Star Wars fan though and seeing Saw Gerrera in the demo perks me up. All these Uncharted comparisons don't mean a lot to me as I never played that series, but given how successful it was, maybe it's not a terrible comparison? But Dark Souls "git gud" combat - I'd rather stick forks in my legs I have a limited time budget for gaming, I'd rather spend it on doing something enjoyable than frustrating.

Respawn making this game is the key selling point for me due to how awesome the Titanfall 2 campaign was and that style of gameplay is a really good fit for a game with a Jedi as the main character. Saying that, I have to agree that Dark Souls like combat is not be something I want to see in JFO. My main concern from watching that EA stream demo is how the graphics just don't look anything special.

Grumpypants · 25-06-2019 8:07pm

Full 26 min gameplay that the press saw at E3.

https://youtu.be/WXpxWy8DJSE

EoinMcLovin · 25-06-2019 8:44pm

Grumpypants wrote: »

Full 26 min gameplay that the press saw at E3.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXpxWy8DJSE

Fixed the link. For YouTube videos just use

de5p0i1er · 26-06-2019 2:36am

This is the first Star Wars related game I've been excited for in a while.
I hope it lives up to the hype and keeps up with Respawn's past history.
I loved Titanfall 1 & 2 and APEX seems to be a really good game based on the feed back I've heard from people who play it.
I'm cautiously optimistic for this one.

weiland79 · 28-06-2019 12:36pm

I would take the Dark souls comparisons with a massive pinch of salt. There is no way Respawn would be permitted to make this game as punishing as a souls game. I would imagine it will be much more accessible like God of war was.

Retr0gamer · 28-06-2019 12:51pm

Every game has to be influenced by Dark Souls these days anyway.

Mr Crispy · 26-09-2019 7:37pm

New trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfcAHfDuNzw

Varik · 26-09-2019 7:56pm

Hope they add dismembering, at least for final stikes instead of just glowing scars.

Gorgeousgeorge · 30-09-2019 10:51am

Really looking forward to this just hope it will be somewhat decent

30-09-2019 12:14pm

I just hope I can pay to get better gear if I'm stuck

weiland79 · 30-09-2019 2:34pm

Deleted User wrote: »

I just hope I can pay to get better gear if I'm stuck

The sarcasm is strong in this one :pac:

Homelander · 30-09-2019 6:06pm

I really find it hard to believe it could be anything but at least decent with Respawn behind it. TF2 was one of the best linear FPS campaigns in years, and the gameplay in that and Apex are absolutely A1.

Skerries · 01-10-2019 1:17pm

Varik wrote: »

Hope they add dismembering, at least for final stikes instead of just glowing scars.

I'm sure there will be mods for PC in short order

22-10-2019 3:26pm

Looks exactly like sekiro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZDRAsc6hsQ

Mr.Fantastic · 22-10-2019 4:01pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Looks exactly like sekiro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZDRAsc6hsQ

Looks pretty good, wonder how long its going to be.

Canis Lupus · 22-10-2019 7:12pm

I've not been impressed with the recent footage of the game. I think it looks clunky and the combat doesn't look to have the free flowing light sabery goodness I'd want in a game like this.

It's still Respawn so I'm holding out hope I'm wrong.

pixelburp · 22-10-2019 7:40pm

There were way too many invocations of other genres & games in that video, feels like excessive hype IMO; between Dark Souls, Jedi Knight, Metroidvania and so on.

22-10-2019 8:17pm

Canis Lupus wrote: »

I've not been impressed with the recent footage of the game. I think it looks clunky and the combat doesn't look to have the free flowing light sabery goodness I'd want in a game like this.

It's still Respawn so I'm holding out hope I'm wrong.

Yeah I agree. It could be a good game, just doesn't look like it should be a star wars game. If that light saber was a sword, it would look right. Doesn't have the right weight.

Kiith · 23-10-2019 10:43am

I'm looking forward to it. I enjoyed the last two Star Wars films, so i clearly don't need it to actually be good for me to enjoy it :P

11-11-2019 12:33pm

This launches Friday, and reviews not out until then.
EA being EA again.
I like Respawn though but always wary with the greedy EA in the background.

pixelburp · 11-11-2019 12:38pm

I am intensely curious about this one: it's arguable that the Star Wars gaming license is in the doldrums at the moment, at least among the ... I dunno, emotionally invested demographics of gamers & its media. Battlefront 2 was a hot mess (no idea what the online number are like), while the sheer poverty of Star Wars games is itself a factor; gone are the days of a myriad of interesting genres and titles, sad really. One could argue that Jedi Order needs to be as much a critical success as a commercial one, so an embargo on reviews hardly sends out hugely positive signals.

TheValeyard · 11-11-2019 12:44pm

Deleted User wrote: »

This launches Friday, and reviews not out until then.
EA being EA again.
I like Respawn though but always wary with the greedy EA in the background.

Im very wary of any publisher that does not allow reviews to be published before release date. I shall be waiting for the reviews first.

But, am I right in thinking or just very out of touch, that im not hearing that much about it at the moment? Is all the attention currently focused on other games?

Kiith · 11-11-2019 12:48pm

Yeah, not releasing reviews is a massive warning sign for me, and anyone pre-ordering it deserves for it to be ****e :pac:

Mitch Connor · 11-11-2019 12:48pm

I've heard a decent amount about it - but then I do listen to a number of gaming podcasts. The feedback on it has been really good so far, from what I have heard. Sounds like it is shaping up to be a very good game.

I do find it hard to buy EA games though, as I have EA Access, so I will get it for free in 6 or 8 months if I just wait...

11-11-2019 12:54pm

TheValeyard wrote: »

Im very wary of any publisher that does not allow reviews to be published before release date. I shall be waiting for the reviews first.

But, am I right in thinking or just very out of touch, that im not hearing that much about it at the moment? Is all the attention currently focused on other games?

Death Stranding taking center stage. The hype surrounding a Kojima game normally does that, factor in that it's one of the most divisive games ever means it's gotten some incredible publicity (good or bad).

Regardless the name alone (As in Star Wars) will always sell. Factor in the movie coming out I'd say it will be fine.

TheValeyard · 11-11-2019 1:06pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Death Stranding taking center stage. The hype surrounding a Kojima game normally does that, factor in that it's one of the most divisive games ever means it's gotten some incredible publicity (good or bad).

Regardless the name alone (As in Star Wars) will always sell. Factor in the movie coming out I'd say it will be fine.

Im reading this in Tom Hanks voice, its quite comforting.

11-11-2019 5:19pm

Am I correct in thinking that there is no multiplayer in this whatsoever? If so that gives me some hope for it at least.

EoinMcLovin · 11-11-2019 6:22pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Am I correct in thinking that there is no multiplayer in this whatsoever? If so that gives me some hope for it at least.

Yeah its single player only

Stone Deaf 4evr · 11-11-2019 6:30pm

The idea of Dark souls in the star wars universe is very appealing to me, the fact that there's no reviews out early are enough to keep me away for the time being. A pity too, as its quite cheap to preorder (€47)on cdkeys for xbox.
https://www.cdkeys.com/xbox-live/games/star-wars-jedi-fallen-order-deluxe-edition-xbox-one

ewj1978 · 11-11-2019 7:45pm

I've EA premium so I'll just wait for it to release.

Gorgeousgeorge · 11-11-2019 9:13pm

Wont be buying until the reviews come but I have high Hope's

EoinMcLovin · 11-11-2019 9:21pm

Gorgeousgeorge wrote: »

Wont be buying until the reviews come but I have high Hope's

Same here. Also looks like there are a few leaked videos going around as the game file has been leaked. Just saw a clip of some of the combat which looks cool

11-11-2019 11:21pm

Review embargo. It's bad. What a shame.

Penn · 12-11-2019 11:13am

Deleted User wrote: »

Review embargo. It's bad. What a shame.

There have been games with a review embargo which were still great games. It's never a great sign, but at the same time it's not indicative that the game is bad. Just best to hold off until reviews are out.

Niska · 12-11-2019 12:21pm

They are also not allowing the usual 10 hour advance trial for EA Access members - "to stop spoilers".

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2019-11-12-star-wars-jedi-fallen-order-wont-get-ea-access-trial

https://twitter.com/EAAccess/status/1193958401874653184?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1193958401874653184&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.eurogamer.net%2Farticles%2F2019-11-12-star-wars-jedi-fallen-order-wont-get-ea-access-trial

Penn · 12-11-2019 12:23pm

Niska wrote: »

They are also not allowing the usual 10 hour advance trial for EA Access members - "to stop spoilers".

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2019-11-12-star-wars-jedi-fallen-order-wont-get-ea-access-trial

https://twitter.com/EAAccess/status/1193958401874653184?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1193958401874653184&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.eurogamer.net%2Farticles%2F2019-11-12-star-wars-jedi-fallen-order-wont-get-ea-access-trial

Well that's more troubling than the review embargo imo. I'd also wonder if that breaks the T&Cs of EA Access, if people were told they'd get trial access to all EA games, though I presume they'd have some get-out clause for that. Have they done it with any other game?

Cordell · 12-11-2019 12:34pm

I'm waiting for this but I'm a bit concerned about DS references (yeah, I know) - will it feature the same mechanics as DS? I mean grind/farm one section until the next, one chance to recover dropped loot?

super_furry · 12-11-2019 12:35pm

Review embargo, no early access trial, looks like EA might be very worried about the reception here.

Mind you the same was being said about Doom 2016 which launched in a similar situation and look how that turned out.

Grumpypants · 12-11-2019 12:44pm

The Dark Souls thing comes from the part where you can sit by a fire. Also some similarities to the linear worlds in DS. It's not open world. And the bosses require learning some timing.

They could have done EA Access trial like with Mirrors Edge and let you play for ten hours but only access the first two chapters.

12-11-2019 1:12pm

Combat looks identical to dark souls. The metrovoidvania aspects are in darksouls too. I think the comparison is warranted.

Also something that looks like estus flasks

12-11-2019 1:13pm

What's the thought process behind an embargo? I can't see past anything other than a bad game being protected so there are impulsive sales

Niska · 12-11-2019 1:22pm

For the DS comparissons:

Meditation Points = Campfires (health and health kits restored, baddies respawn)

XP is lost when killed but can be regained by striking the mob that killed you (don't have to kill it)

If you’re killed by a foe during the game, you will lose all the XP you’ve gained from the previous skill level to them. The Restore system (which is what the game dubbed it) allows you to claim it back, as well as filling up your health and Force Meter, if you manage to land a strike on that enemy when you next respawn into the game.

(From: https://www.gamesradar.com/star-wars-jedi-fallen-order-xp-recovery-system-works-like-echoes-in-bloodborne/)

Stone Deaf 4evr · 12-11-2019 1:28pm

Niska wrote: »

For the DS comparissons:

Meditation Points = Campfires (health and health kits restored, baddies respawn)

XP is lost when killed but can be regained by striking the mob that killed you (don't have to kill it)

(From: https://www.gamesradar.com/star-wars-jedi-fallen-order-xp-recovery-system-works-like-echoes-in-bloodborne/)

Apparently the enemies respawn when you rest at the campfires too.

pixelburp · 12-11-2019 1:31pm

How commonly are review embargoes broken these days? There any chance an outlet might actually "leak" their review for the sake of publicity?

super_furry · 12-11-2019 1:43pm

pixelburp wrote: »

How commonly are review embargoes broken these days? There any chance an outlet might actually "leak" their review for the sake of publicity?

Doesn't happen. The bigger outfits are too professional and the smaller ones and Youtube channels are too frightened of losing their access and free games.

johnny_ultimate · 12-11-2019 1:45pm

Late embargo or not in this case, anyone who decides to buy a game before reading reviews - whether they’re released a week beforehand or on the day - deserves the 60 quid hit if the game turns out to be ****e

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