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Whey protein.

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  • 25-01-2019 11:33pm
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    obi604
    Registered Users Posts: 5,496 ✭✭✭


    Hi

    Have never used whey protein before so apologies. Have been reading and I see they can be taken at any time really during the day......breakfast time, pre workout, post workout, between meals, just before bed etc


    Let’s say this is scenario

    Go to gym at 6pm or so.
    Do a warmup on bike or rower etc
    and then do weights.
    Then immediately after this, take the whey protein shake
    Drive home and 30 minutes later have a meal (tuna etc)

    Is this too soon to have the meal?
    Or is a meal even needed for another couple of hours


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    Alf Veedersane
    Registered Users Posts: 24,556 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    obi604 wrote: »
    Hi

    Have never used whey protein before so apologies. Have been reading and I see they can be taken at any time really during the day......breakfast time, pre workout, post workout, between meals, just before bed etc


    Let’s say this is scenario

    Go to gym at 6pm or so.
    Do a warmup on bike or rower etc
    and then do weights.
    Then immediately after this, take the whey protein shake
    Drive home and 30 minutes later have a meal (tuna etc)

    Is this too soon to have the meal?
    Or is a meal even needed for another couple of hours

    Ideally, you'd get your protein equally spaced throughout the day.

    No need to worry about how soon after a workout you have it but I would either have the whey protein or meal when you get home and have protein shake another time if necessary


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    obi604
    Registered Users Posts: 5,496 ✭✭✭obi604


    Alf Veedersane wrote: »
    Ideally, you'd get your protein equally spaced throughout the day.

    No need to worry about how soon after a workout you have it but I would either have the whey protein or meal when you get home and have protein shake another time if necessary

    Thanks for reply.

    Are you making a difference between “whey protein” and “protein shake” ?


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    Alf Veedersane
    Registered Users Posts: 24,556 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    obi604 wrote: »
    Thanks for reply.

    Are you making a difference between “whey protein” and “protein shake” ?

    No. Most people put whey protein and milk/water in a drinking container and shake at voila, a protein shake.


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    jhenno78
    Closed Accounts Posts: 208 ✭✭jhenno78


    Food is food, protein is protein.

    The reasons to take whey are that it's handy, easy to horse down you, and can be quite cheap.

    Wouldn't worry about having to or avoiding eating right after workout. There's the "mega boost to muscle building by eating protein right after workout. grrr!" guff but it doesn't seem to be based on much and is probably just marketing.

    Personally I do, I find I get quite hungry about an hour or so later otherwise. Try different things and see what suits.


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    TallGlass
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,935 ✭✭✭TallGlass


    They say there is a 'window' after your workout that using a protein shake is 'more' benifical.

    Would make sense, tearing muscle down it wants to build it back up, demand on protein would increase.

    However people go hell for leather with the things! Do the calculations, see how much you need to be taking in, see if your food your eating enoght protein and supplement accordingly.

    It's also recommend to have a shake prior to gym also about 2 hrs before.

    The main name of the game here to make sure overall your protein intake is the right amount in your macros. If your eating 100g more protein than needed. Either will either end up as waste, end up as fat or burnt up. You'll still need a mix of 'good' fats and quality carbs in your system and reaching correct macros accordingly too.


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    TallGlass
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,935 ✭✭✭TallGlass


    jhenno78 wrote: »
    Food is food, protein is protein.

    The reasons to take whey are that it's handy, easy to horse down you, and can be quite cheap.

    Wouldn't worry about having to or avoiding eating right after workout. There's the "mega boost to muscle building by eating protein right after workout. grrr!" guff but it doesn't seem to be based on much and is probably just marketing.

    Personally I do, I find I get quite hungry about an hour or so later otherwise. Try different things and see what suits.


    I think it's a bit of a fad too. However, maybe coincidence here but I had an awful case of shin splits in my legs. Really sorry, then I had my morning protein shake and the pain just went.


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    Alf Veedersane
    Registered Users Posts: 24,556 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    TallGlass wrote: »
    I think it's a bit of a fad too. However, maybe coincidence here but I had an awful case of shin splits in my legs. Really sorry, then I had my morning protein shake and the pain just went.

    Protein is a fad?


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    TallGlass
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,935 ✭✭✭TallGlass


    Alf Veedersane wrote: »
    Protein is a fad?

    Yeah it's a fad????? Protein. Is that a serious question.

    Did you read my other post?


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    Alf Veedersane
    Registered Users Posts: 24,556 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    TallGlass wrote: »
    Yeah it's a fad????? Protein. Is that a serious question.

    What we're you referring to as being a fad?


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    TallGlass
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,935 ✭✭✭TallGlass


    Alf Veedersane wrote: »
    What we're you referring to as being a fad?

    The window after working out or exercise.

    Happy to read any experiments on it.


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    jhenno78
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    Interesting thing about protein recently in the Guardian, about the extremes of focusing on it to the exclusion of everything else and how obsession with protein is a bit of a fad (as opposed to it being part of a balanced diet).
    podcast
    text


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    Alf Veedersane
    Registered Users Posts: 24,556 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    TallGlass wrote: »
    The window after working out or exercise.

    Happy to read any experiments on it.

    Ah. It wasn't clear to what you were referring. It's not altogether unusual to hear protein is a fad sometimes...


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    TallGlass
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    Alf Veedersane wrote: »
    Ah. It wasn't clear to what you were referring. It's not altogether unusual to hear protein is a fad sometimes...

    No worries. I think excessive amounts of intakes even past what a high protein diet would call for is just unneeded. Along with just totally ignoring other macros, plus knowledge on the protein quality etc..

    The main thing is to find out how much is recommended you take in based on weight, height, age, gender and your goals. It will throw out a figure, hit that target, do same for carbs and fats. Then make sure the source of protein, carbs and fats are clean, good quality sources. I wouldn't neglected your micros either, using supplements or ideally fruits and vegetables.


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    obi604
    Registered Users Posts: 5,496 ✭✭✭obi604


    TallGlass wrote: »
    No worries. I think excessive amounts of intakes even past what a high protein diet would call for is just unneeded. Along with just totally ignoring other macros, plus knowledge on the protein quality etc..

    The main thing is to find out how much is recommended you take in based on weight, height, age, gender and your goals. It will throw out a figure, hit that target, do same for carbs and fats. Then make sure the source of protein, carbs and fats are clean, good quality sources. I wouldn't neglected your micros either, using supplements or ideally fruits and vegetables.

    Hi

    You mention “micros” and “macros”
    Is this a typo between the 2 words?

    What do they mean?


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    Alf Veedersane
    Registered Users Posts: 24,556 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    obi604 wrote: »
    Hi

    You mention “micros” and “macros”
    Is this a typo between the 2 words?

    What do they mean?

    Macronutrients = carbohydrates, fats, protein.

    Micronutrients = vitamins and minerals that are needed in much smaller quantities


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    Blacktie.
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    obi604 wrote: »
    Hi

    You mention “micros” and “macros”
    Is this a typo between the 2 words?

    What do they mean?

    Micros are vitamins and minerals.

    Macros are carbs, protein and fat. Also alcohol but that shouldn't be much part of a healthy diet. Do as I say not as I do :D


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    obi604
    Registered Users Posts: 5,496 ✭✭✭obi604


    Silly question. See attached file. What is the honeycomb grill bit for (the yellow part)?

    Do you leave in shaker before putting in the whey protein? And then it acts to breaks up the whey protein?


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    obi604
    Registered Users Posts: 5,496 ✭✭✭obi604


    Silly question. See attached file. What is the honeycomb grill bit for (the yellow part)?

    Do you leave in shaker before putting in the whey protein? And then it acts to breaks up the whey protein a bit?


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    Alf Veedersane
    Registered Users Posts: 24,556 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Add whey and milk/water to container, put on grid and lid, then shake.

    It's to help break up lumps.

    Some (stupid) containers also have a little wore ball to so the same job.


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    obi604
    Registered Users Posts: 5,496 ✭✭✭obi604


    Alf Veedersane wrote: »
    Add whey and milk/water to container, put on grid and lid, then shake.

    It's to help break up lumps.

    Some (stupid) containers also have a little wore ball to so the same job.

    Oh ok. Does it actually work?


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    Alf Veedersane
    Registered Users Posts: 24,556 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    obi604 wrote: »
    Oh ok. Does it actually work?

    You shake the bottle and it breaks up lumps. Would it hurt to just assemble the shaker and use as directed?


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    obi604
    Registered Users Posts: 5,496 ✭✭✭obi604


    Alf Veedersane wrote: »
    You shake the bottle and it breaks up lumps. Would it hurt to just assemble the shaker and use as directed?

    I don’t have a shaker bottle yet.


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    Mellor
    Registered Users Posts: 39,061 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    TallGlass wrote: »
    The window after working out or exercise.

    Happy to read any experiments on it.
    Yeah. The window is largely overstated. And makes little digestive sense..
    Whoever brought that up probably doesn't really know what they're talking about.


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    obi604
    Registered Users Posts: 5,496 ✭✭✭obi604


    Mellor wrote: »
    Yeah. The world die is largely overstated. And makes little digestive sense..
    Whoever brought that up probably doesn't really know what they're talking about.


    What do you mean by “the world die”


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    Mellor
    Registered Users Posts: 39,061 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    obi604 wrote: »
    What do you mean by “the world die”

    Should have said window. Typo/Autocorrect


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    obi604
    Registered Users Posts: 5,496 ✭✭✭obi604


    Mellor wrote: »
    Yeah. The window is largely overstated. And makes little digestive sense..
    Whoever brought that up probably doesn't really know what they're talking about.


    Ok so your saying to try and get protein in to you relatively soon after working out?


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    Mellor
    Registered Users Posts: 39,061 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    obi604 wrote: »
    Ok so your saying to try and get protein in to you relatively soon after working out?
    I'm saying idea of an anabolic protein window is overstated.


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    obi604
    Registered Users Posts: 5,496 ✭✭✭obi604


    What do seasoned users think is the more practical for their protein.

    The tub or the hard plastic bag?


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    Alf Veedersane
    Registered Users Posts: 24,556 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    The tub if I'm going to be throwing it around. Other than that, it doesn't matter.


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    Johnnyhpipe
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    The bag is a great space saver if your presses are already full of crap like mine!


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