National slow down day.

Edward M · 19-10-2018 7:46am #1

Do you commute by road?
Watch your speed today, they are out to get you.
Do these days make any difference to your driving habits as you traverse the highways and byways, will it actually change your driving habits?
https://www.rte.ie/news/2018/1019/1005201-gardai-rsa-slow-down-day/

Bob Harris · 19-10-2018 7:53am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ocWVgmkUSk

Fr_Dougal · 19-10-2018 7:53am

Pity they don’t target cyclists breaking red lights, which forces motorists to swerve to avoid them. 💣

Stark · 19-10-2018 7:55am

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Pity they don’t target cyclists breaking red lights, which forces motorists to swerve to avoid them. ðŸ’£

:rolleyes:

Bob Harris · 19-10-2018 7:55am

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Pity they don’t target cyclists breaking red lights, which forces motorists to swerve to avoid them. 💣

Dopes, that's where they're going wrong.

Peatys · 19-10-2018 7:58am

Move the cash vans from the motorway to beside schools

Rechuchote · 19-10-2018 8:01am

As a general rule a 1% reduction in average speed will bring about a 4% reduction in fatal collisions, and this is why reducing motorists’ speed is essential to improving road safety.

https://www.garda.ie/en/about-us/our-departments/office-of-corporate-communications/press-releases/2018/october/national-slow-down-day-19th-to-20th-october-2018.html

Result of crashes at different speeds:

Working class heroes · 19-10-2018 8:03am

Rechuchote wrote: »

As a general rule a 1% reduction in average speed will bring about a 4% reduction in fatal collisions, and this is why reducing motorists’ speed is essential to improving road safety.

https://www.garda.ie/en/about-us/our-departments/office-of-corporate-communications/press-releases/2018/october/national-slow-down-day-19th-to-20th-october-2018.html

Result of crashes at different speeds:

Why do the black people survive, and why do the communists get done?

ahnowbrowncow · 19-10-2018 8:05am

Working class heroes wrote: »

Why do the black people survive, and why do the communists get done?

And why are they all standing on the road when a car is approaching?

Working class heroes · 19-10-2018 8:08am

ahnowbrowncow wrote: »

And why are they all standing on the road when a car is approaching?

Dole queue?

Signore Fancy Pants · 19-10-2018 8:29am

Zzzzzoooooommmmmm

Nnnnyyyeeeerrrrrraaaaaauuuummmm

Nnnnuuuuuummmmm

Beep beep

Outta my way, benders!

Pherekydes · 19-10-2018 8:31am

I was going to go for a run, but I'll just go for a stroll instead.

Edward M · 19-10-2018 8:43am

I won't be doing much travelling myself today, I doubt I'll break any limits on the Massey anyway.
I live between the N3 and N4, the Ms didn't get as far as us yet, they are always mad on a Friday afternoon, you'd be blown away with the speed of yokes on there, mind yerselves today, be careful out there.

punisher5112 · 19-10-2018 8:52am

Why can't people be taught a little bit of personal responsibility.

I drive for a living and to be honest the amount of lives I save every day by reading the road ahead and knowing that gobsh1te ahead is going to step out, look at you and run out, cycle up the inside when turning etc etc etc....

There is more to deaths then just speeding and what I see being allowed go on is shocking and even in front of guards and they keep on going.

I reported a delivery van driver recently for overtaking 3 buses on George's St while driving in the far 3rd lane the wrong way while speeding through a red light which pedestrians had a green and only for me beeping they more then likely would have been knocked down.

The guard eventually got back and said look there isn't much I can do it's your word against his and yet I had CCTV footage but anyway look if you can get away with that in a major city then we are all fcuked.

It had Ready chef all over advertisement and I've come across a few of them and their driving standards are shocking.

wexie · 19-10-2018 8:56am

^^^^^^^

What he said, they should have 'don't drive like a bloody bellend days' instead

murpho999 · 19-10-2018 9:04am

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Pity they don’t target cyclists breaking red lights, which forces motorists to swerve to avoid them. 💣

I really was not aware until the internet was invented that cyclists are responsible for all traffic accidents and deaths and cars and their drivers have never caused any. Amazing.

punisher5112 · 19-10-2018 9:10am

murpho999 wrote: »

I really was not aware until the internet was invented that cyclists are responsible for all traffic accidents and deaths and cars and their drivers have never caused any. Amazing.

Come off it they did not say that.

They and motorists alike need to cop on so it's across the board.

Obide by the rules that are set out to save lives.

judestynes · 19-10-2018 9:14am

Rechuchote wrote: »

As a general rule a 1% reduction in average speed will bring about a 4% reduction in fatal collisions, and this is why reducing motorists’ speed is essential to improving road safety.

https://www.garda.ie/en/about-us/our-departments/office-of-corporate-communications/press-releases/2018/october/national-slow-down-day-19th-to-20th-october-2018.html

Result of crashes at different speeds:

Yea well thats what happens when people stand in the middle of the road,, what the hell do they expect:P

murpho999 · 19-10-2018 9:25am

punisher5112 wrote: »

Come off it they did not say that.

They and motorists alike need to cop on so it's across the board.

Obide by the rules that are set out to save lives.

The point is that this is a thread about cars slowing down and somebody unnecessarily brings cyclists into it.

Doctors room ghost · 19-10-2018 9:31am

wexie wrote: »

^^^^^^^

What he said, they should have 'don't drive like a bloody bellend days' instead

If that happens there won’t be a bmw nor an Audi let out on the road that day.the switch for the indicators in them cars must be in the fukn boot I’m convinced.not a one of them will use them

punisher5112 · 19-10-2018 9:33am

murpho999 wrote: »

The point is that this is a thread about cars slowing down and somebody unnecessarily brings cyclists into it.

But it isn't just about cars.

Cyclists can speed too....

Look at all the ones going around with engines strapped to their mountain bikes.

What the poster was stating it's not just speed which is very true.

If more laws were enforced then less things would go wrong.

fryup · 19-10-2018 9:35am

punisher5112 wrote: »

Look at all the ones going around with engines strapped to their mountain bikes.

is that e bikes you're seeing??

judestynes · 19-10-2018 9:36am

murpho999 wrote: »

The point is that this is a thread about cars slowing down and somebody unnecessarily brings cyclists into it.

The point of this thread is road safety and it's everyones responsibility.

Edgware · 19-10-2018 9:37am

punisher5112 wrote: »

But it isn't just about cars.

Cyclists can speed too....

Look at all the ones going around with engines strapped to their mountain bikes.

What the poster was stating it's not just speed which is very true.

If more laws were enforced then less things would go wrong.

Personally I think that having a marksman at different junctions each day who will take out any cyclist, motorist, pedestrian breaking the law would have an amazing effect on figures.
They need to be lucky once.
"Are you feeling lucky punk?"

punisher5112 · 19-10-2018 9:39am

fryup wrote: »

is that e bikes you're seeing??

Eh no..... Mountain bikes with 2stroke noisey engines.

Good few motoring around the city.

These are 80cc by the way so are ilegal.

amcalester · 19-10-2018 9:44am

punisher5112 wrote: »

But it isn't just about cars.

Cyclists can speed too....

Look at all the ones going around with engines strapped to their mountain bikes.

What the poster was stating it's not just speed which is very true.

If more laws were enforced then less things would go wrong.

Fun fact, speed limits don't apply to cyclists even the e-bikes are exempt. But the engine cuts out at 25 km/h on those anyway. Do we have a speed limit lower than 25?

Those bikes with a retro fitted petrol engine are all kinds of illegal and shouldn't be on the road at all, regardless of their speed.

magicbastarder · 19-10-2018 10:10am

good god, a thread about motorists being stopped for speeding and it turns into one about cyclists. wonders never cease.

anyway, back on topic. back in the day i used to have to drive around the country a lot, before most of the motorway network was in place. i learned quickly enough that by far the biggest determinant of how long your journey took was not how fast you went in the fast bits, but how slow you go on the slow bits. and unless you're driving on a motorway, going fast is more mentally tiring too.

19-10-2018 10:54am

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Pity they don’t target cyclists breaking red lights, which forces motorists to swerve to avoid them. 💣

Don't forget said cyclists ploughing into a group of pedestrians (who have the shock, horror, temerity to stand on the pavement) while looking in the complete opposite direction to shake their fist at the motorist in order to scream "maniac, I'm calling the guards!" at them. :rolleyes:

Lyle Lanley · 19-10-2018 10:56am

Working class heroes wrote: »

Why do the black people survive, and why do the communists get done?

The black lads are smarter, always stand behind other people if a car is coming at you.

Ray Palmer · 19-10-2018 11:01am

amcalester wrote: »

Fun fact, speed limits don't apply to cyclists even the e-bikes are exempt. But the engine cuts out at 25 km/h on those anyway. Do we have a speed limit lower than 25?

Those bikes with a retro fitted petrol engine are all kinds of illegal and shouldn't be on the road at all, regardless of their speed.

That isn't quite true about ebikes. There are a lot of them sold that require a licence and insurance as they are not capped at 25kph. Some are not designed to adhere to EU regs st all by having throttles and not requiring peddling and others have been modified.

The gardai don't know the models enough to spot the illegal ones but it is a matter of time before there is an accident and a public outcry.

Even with the motor stopping you can still cycle faster. Hit 50kph regularly cycling. Cycling along 30kph limit along the quays is a complete joke as cars are all speeding well over the limit

murpho999 · 19-10-2018 11:10am

punisher5112 wrote: »

But it isn't just about cars.

Cyclists can speed too....

Look at all the ones going around with engines strapped to their mountain bikes.

What the poster was stating it's not just speed which is very true.

If more laws were enforced then less things would go wrong.

I would not call a mountain bike with an engine on it a normal cyclist.

Also a speeding cyclist is not as dangerous as a speeding car and it's the cyclist taking the bigger risk.

Cyclist always comes off worst in a collision with a car.

National Slow Down Day is a Garda initiative aimed solely at motorists.

As shown in link below.

https://www.garda.ie/en/about-us/our-departments/office-of-corporate-communications/news-media/national-slow-down%E2%80%9D-day-19th-%E2%80%93-20th-october-2018.html

amcalester · 19-10-2018 11:15am

Ray Palmer wrote: »

That isn't quite true about ebikes. There are a lot of them sold that require a licence and insurance as they are not capped at 25kph. Some are not designed to adhere to EU regs st all by having throttles and not requiring peddling and others have been modified.

The gardai don't know the models enough to spot the illegal ones but it is a matter of time before there is an accident and a public outcry.

Even with the motor stopping you can still cycle faster. Hit 50kph regularly cycling. Cycling along 30kph limit along the quays is a complete joke as cars are all speeding well over the limit

Fair enough, but I think it's fair to say that for a road-legal cyclist, speed limits don't apply.

JupiterKid · 19-10-2018 11:34am

As someone who is pretty highly strung and on the go most of the time, slowing down and taking time out to chill, meditate and reflect is more important than ever in today's crazy hectic workd.

wexie · 19-10-2018 11:42am

amcalester wrote: »

Fair enough, but I think it's fair to say that for a road-legal cyclist, speed limits don't apply.

Are you sure of that though? I don't know any better that speed limits are applicable for anything travelling on that particular road.

Now whether or not it is actively enforced is an entirely different matter of course.

Macy0161 · 19-10-2018 11:46am

wexie wrote: »

Are you sure of that though? I don't know any better that speed limits are applicable for anything travelling on that particular road.

Now whether or not it is actively enforced is an entirely different matter of course.

Speed limits only apply to mechanically propelled vehicles.

There's very little enforcement of any Road Traffic Offences.

Ray Palmer · 19-10-2018 11:54am

wexie wrote: »

Are you sure of that though? I don't know any better that speed limits are applicable for anything travelling on that particular road.

Now whether or not it is actively enforced is an entirely different matter of course.

Speed limits apply to motorised vehicles. Ebikes don't count as they are motor assist unless as I stated earlier where they aren't assistant devices.

The thing is the electric scooters and hoverboards do need to adhere to them but aren't legal for path or road use. An ever increasing number are appearing on the roads and an accident waiting to happen.

amcalester · 19-10-2018 11:59am

wexie wrote: »

Are you sure of that though? I don't know any better that speed limits are applicable for anything travelling on that particular road.

Now whether or not it is actively enforced is an entirely different matter of course.

100%, bikes aren't mechanically propelled vehicles and so aren't covered by the legislation.

There are other offences that a Garda could charge an offending cyclist with, Riding a bicycle without reasonable consideration, being the closest applicable one that I know of.

This is a Fixed Charge Offence too, €40 fine.

wexie · 19-10-2018 4:03pm

amcalester wrote: »

100%, bikes aren't mechanically propelled vehicles and so aren't covered by the legislation.

There are other offences that a Garda could charge an offending cyclist with, Riding a bicycle without reasonable consideration, being the closest applicable one that I know of.

That's nuts!

DEFTLEFTHAND · 19-10-2018 4:26pm

Lyle Lanley wrote: »

The black lads are smarter, always stand behind other people if a car is coming at you.

Operation Get behind the Commie!

Ray Palmer · 19-10-2018 4:44pm

wexie wrote: »

That's nuts!

Not really as cyclists don't pose anywhere near the level of danger motorised vehicles do. It really only applies to 30kph anyway . Very hard to find a motorist that adheres to that speed limit

Skylinehead · 19-10-2018 5:51pm

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

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I think half of the posters in the thread seem to have missed this.

Infini · 19-10-2018 6:47pm

National milk the driver day. If they were serious they'd be patrolling actual blackspots but more likely they're just trying to milk people with speedtraps in the usual places where no accidents happen to make up their OT bill instead. Dont hate the guards myself but this whole excercise is obviously just to make money more than save lives.

Macy0161 · 19-10-2018 7:15pm

Or people could just stick to the speed limits, and then they make nothing from days like this, or any speed enforcement...

Edward M · 19-10-2018 7:48pm

Infini wrote: »

National milk the driver day. If they were serious they'd be patrolling actual blackspots but more likely they're just trying to milk people with speedtraps in the usual places where no accidents happen to make up their OT bill instead. Dont hate the guards myself but this whole excercise is obviously just to make money more than save lives.

If that was the case they'd hardly publicise it, would they?
Truth be told there should probably be a lot more speed checks.
I'm not sure if the speed vans are achieving much, unless you are driving on unfamiliar roads.
I know all the areas they cover now within my usual driving range and where they park so basically I know I only have to check my speed in certain places.
Garda checks could bring in huge revenue I reckon if they made a really concentrated effort to "make money".

Rechuchote · 25-10-2018 9:16am

Infini wrote: »

National milk the driver day. If they were serious they'd be patrolling actual blackspots but more likely they're just trying to milk people with speedtraps in the usual places where no accidents happen to make up their OT bill instead. Dont hate the guards myself but this whole excercise is obviously just to make money more than save lives.

Give us a few examples of places you think the Gardaí should be patrolling to catch speeding drivers, please.

BeerWolf · 25-10-2018 9:50am

... what?

National slow down day.

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