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What's so great about Australia?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭marketty


    Its amaaaaaaaaaazing!!!!

    Or so I'm told


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    I never got it. Ridiculously expensive. Devoid of any meaningful culture. Uncomfortably hot. Crawling in biting insects. Humourless and arrogant locals.

    I spent a month in there eight years ago and I have absolutely no desire to ever go back.

    Other than the possibility of getting a mediocre job what is the attraction with the place?

    The expensive part isn't true in all of Australia - in Sydney you can get a good steak with chips or mash and a side salad for $10, you can get a kilo or most fruit and veg for $2-3, you can buy a kilo of fillet steak for $20-25, a schooner (about 450ml) of beer or a house wine or vodka/whiskey/bourbon and coke for $3 in a lot of places. You can get a weekly unlimited pass for all trains, buses and ferries for $43 I think it was and all are frequent, quick and reliable (this is all as of two years ago), and I had a very nice, spacious 3 bedroom apartment in Kingsford shared with a couple and one other guy which was about 15-20 minutes on a bus you wouldn't be waiting any more than 5-10 minutes for from either the beach or the CBD, for $215 a week. Considering that minimum wage is/was then about $17.50 on a sponsorship or $22ish on a working holiday visa (you can only get casual work so no sick/holiday pay, but they pay you 25% extra so it's more than a good enough pay off), those are some incredibly reasonable prices. There's also a lot of more free stuff to do there in no small part thanks to the weather, which helps more again.

    It can get uncomfortably hot but not often once you've acclimatised, you were only there for a month so you wouldn't have had the chance. Once you get used to it it's incredible waking up a 6-6.30am to 25 degree weather and beaming sunshine, so a lot of people go for a jog, to the gym or for a surf/swim before work which puts them in a much better and more easygoing mood.

    I actually didn't find many Aussies that arrogant at all, the odd one but you get that everywhere. I made plenty of Aussie friends who I still keep in touch with and try to meet up with if they're in Europe in the summer, whereas the Irish in particular I found were terrible at mingling with the locals - spending their whole lives in the Randwick/Bondi Junction area, rarely going out anywhere that wasn't The Tea Gardens, Cock and Bull or Scruffy Murphys (or maybe Cheers sports bar or the Star casino to watch football matches), often working with and for Irish people and insulating themselves as much as possible from everything around them. I was staying in a hostel right by central train station at first, met a few Irish people who I was out with the odd time, but stopped doing so after I would get dirty looks and sarcastic comments off them for talking to Aussies out and about. Then we're the first ones to turn around and complain about the locals "not liking us because we're Irish", being arrogant, etc! :pac:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 412 ✭✭better call saul


    To me, from what I've seen, it's the biggest gob****es from small towns that have fcuked off to drive tractors all day or work in the mines with their parents showing off that they're making 20 bucks an hour without mentioning how expensive it is. Good riddance to the cunce


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    To me, from what I've seen, it's the biggest gob****es from small towns that have fcuked off to drive tractors all day or work in the mines with their parents showing off that they're making 20 bucks an hour without mentioning how expensive it is. Good riddance to the cunce

    If you're working in the mines, you're earning a f***load more than $20 an hour. ;)

    Where did you find was so expensive over there though? Perth is stupidly pricey, but Brisbane and Melbourne are more reasonable and Sydney is incredibly well priced unless you're really looking to spend money.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,017 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    Laura from Masterchef Australia and Hannah and Denny from Home and Away.

    Laura actually replied to a tweet I sent her after the finale aired over here, and it genuinely made my year :D


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    cities are nice but all the towns are sh1tholes.
    definite element of stupid arrogance prevalent in large parts of the population there.
    some interesting stuff naturewise but 1000's of miles apart.
    maybe ok to to to out of economic need but as a holiday destination there are many many superior places offer great natural beauty, history and a culture that is actually interesting.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,835 ✭✭✭✭cloud493


    - It looks too hot
    - I don't like the beach
    - I couldn't stand the seasons there
    - ****ing killer animals everywhere.

    Think I'l stay in Dublin thanks :o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,906 ✭✭✭Streetwalker


    Has anyone ever meet one person who's been to Australia who has one mildly interesting story to tell. Every single one of them has the same "mad" story to tell.


  • Registered Users Posts: 306 ✭✭NZ_2014


    Its nice to be able to have a BBQ outside for most of the year.

    Sure, there are pros and cons to both countries, but don't bash people who go there, whether looking for something different or just looking for a better job (or just a job!).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    NZ_2014 wrote: »
    but don't bash people who go there, whether looking for something different or just looking for a better job (or just a job!).
    You don't know Irish people very well, do you? :p


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,113 ✭✭✭twinytwo


    The reason Australia appealed so much was because of their strong economy, which weathered the recession very well (being that it relies heavily on natural resource exploitation). Its also english speaking, developed and has a pleasant climate.

    Importantly, it is also far away (so it is exotic but without being so - if you know what I mean) and work visas are easy to come by.

    It is also home to many a creature that will try to bite/eat you in one way or another:pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Saipanne


    I've never met an Aussie I liked. Must be the accent or something.


  • Registered Users Posts: 306 ✭✭NZ_2014


    twinytwo wrote: »
    It is also home to many a creature that will try to bite/eat you in one way or another:pac:

    The chances of that happening are very low unless you go swimming in crocodile hotspots or unmonitored beaches!


  • Registered Users Posts: 306 ✭✭NZ_2014


    I spent a month in there eight years ago and I have absolutely no desire to ever go back.

    A month? Well, you must have really gotten to know the place if you spent whole month there, fair play.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,674 ✭✭✭Faith+1


    Saipanne wrote: »
    I've never met an Aussie I liked. Must be the accent or something.

    +1 The accent....shudder.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 637 ✭✭✭Cathy.C


    Scott Robinson.

    What a spunk.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,604 ✭✭✭Day Lewin


    Have visited several times for periods - family, travel etc

    Pros:
    True about the climate mostly, apart from stink-hot North and misty Melbourne/Tasmania
    Yes, barbecue outdoors anytime and lots of parks have facilities etc.
    Amazing wildlife #marsupials
    Cultural history is awe-inspiring
    Fresh fruit and veg and local wine
    Very direct and efficient in business

    BUT

    Cons:
    Racism - we really have found this to be true - I know it is everywhere in the world, but there's a sort of knee-jerk ignorance in Australia that really puts our teeth on edge. Their immigration policies tell a story...
    Sustainability issues - the push to use up scarce water for saleable exports
    a Laddish culture - beer and sexism :-(
    Dangerous insects snakes and animals :-(
    Can be boring...not a lot of cultural activity in many places
    That ACCENT :-(

    And the place -- Miles and miles, even thousands of miles, from anywhere to anywhere!

    Worth a visit - oh yes

    Would I live there? (if my family didn't) -well --
    Tempted by the sunshine, but...probably no.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,781 ✭✭✭KungPao


    I was there, thought it was nice. Vienna was a particular highlight.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,746 ✭✭✭irishmover


    NZ_2014 wrote: »
    A month? Well, you must have really gotten to know the place if you spent whole month there, fair play.

    These threads pop up every so often. I usually stray away from replying. Everyone has their own opinion of anywhere but spending a month in a country and brandishing it the way the OP did is just plain silly.

    Living in Australia 3 years. Never on the WHV. Currently have PR and less than a year of citizenship. I'm a professional and enjoy my work as the system here for what I do is run better than Ireland. My experience is good because I've never stayed in a backpackers more than 2 days (when I initially arrived in the country I spent two days in one before getting the hell out) and have not lived that piss up drunk life.

    If I did I personally would have hated it and went home long ago.

    Doing what I do is enjoyable here but its not for everyone. Same as Ireland. I plan to return to Ireland for good some time in the next few years but I'll return with great memories a strong background in my profession and the ability to come back here whenever I like.

    I've met some racist Aussies and I've met some fantastic Aussies full of respect. Same can be said about the Irish.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,239 ✭✭✭Elessar


    I've never been, never got why so many Irish people (some of my family included) went over. It just seems like they heard it was popular and then joined the band wagon. The only people I know who went over and stayed are of the type that have poor education, little to no skills or ambitions and were unwilling to upskill. The type that blame the 'guberment' for being out of work. Personally I'm delighted they left!!

    I've no interest in heading over myself, but I've always thought if I did, I'd go to New Zealand. By all accounts it seems to be the nicer australia.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,746 ✭✭✭irishmover


    Elessar wrote: »
    I've never been

    So you've got even less of a credible opinion than the OP then..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    It's funny that the accent has come up because to me there is one awful type of accent, the 'bogan' accent which is kind of like Australia's answer to the Dublin townie accent, two people with it having an argument is the worst sounding thing in the world.



    But on the other hand I love the softer Aussie accent that you get in most of the cities, especially up around Gold Coast and Brisbane. Was seeing a girl from there for a bit and just a few words would have me fecking melting, I've also been in touch with St. George bank a lot in the last few months whose call centre is in Brisbane and the accent is just f***ing mwah!!



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Elessar wrote: »
    I've never been, never got why so many Irish people (some of my family included) went over. It just seems like they heard it was popular and then joined the band wagon. The only people I know who went over and stayed are of the type that have poor education, little to no skills or ambitions and were unwilling to upskill. The type that blame the 'guberment' for being out of work. Personally I'm delighted they left!!

    I've no interest in heading over myself, but I've always thought if I did, I'd go to New Zealand. By all accounts it seems to be the nicer australia.
    Funny that, I actually was there for a year and a half and the majority of Irish people sponsored over there in my experience are doctors, engineers, teachers and people working in finance.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin




  • Registered Users Posts: 2,615 ✭✭✭DebDynamite


    Nothing, I hope! The OH is going out there to visit family and I'm dreading him coming back and telling me he wants us to move there 😐


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Nothing, I hope! The OH is going out there to visit family and I'm dreading him coming back and telling me he wants us to move there ��
    Are you just really attached to Ireland or is there some reason you would dread Australia so much in particular?


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    Billy86 wrote: »
    Are you just really attached to Ireland or is there some reason you would dread Australia so much in particular?



    The question… I don't get ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    mad muffin wrote: »
    The question… I don't get ?

    Sorry there, meant to quote the post under yours! :o


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    Billy86 wrote: »
    Sorry there, meant to quote the post under yours! :o

    Ah. Makes sense now. :P


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭Remmy


    It's where Bodhi got killed at the end of point break


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