Hot take: Multiculturalism is good

Dyr · 11-03-2019 3:35pm

You know something is going to be comedy gold when it starts the words "hot take"

"Pure scutter", more like.

sk8erboii · 11-03-2019 3:39pm

gozunda wrote: »

The default state of dogs and humans is to have fleas. Thankfully that is no longer the case.

It is also true that in Europe in the last couple of decades at least, we seem to have evolved past the need for the destruction of cultures by means of mass migrations and violence.

Talking of 'violent supplatings'(sic) and looking back at history. The (Western) Roman empire was invaded and destroyed by barbarians in the fifth century. Its fall marked the death knell of then known education and literacy, technology, organised economics and not least, the rule of written law within Europe.

The 'dark ages' which followed were dark not only the barbarians brought civilisation to its knees but because life was often nasty, brutish and short.

Socially and technologically Europe descended into chaos for a thousand years after that particular violent 'supplanting' ....

Hahahhahahahahahhaah

The dark ages was a myth fed to sel books and DVDs. People advanced in this era by every metric.

And shouldnt you be supporting the collapse of the (globalist) roman empire?

sk8erboii · 11-03-2019 3:41pm

Bambi wrote: »

You know something is going to be comedy gold when it starts the words "hot take"

"Pure scutter", more like.

‘Interdependence and coexistence has been key to humanity’s success’

You: wtf? Thats pure scutter.

4068ac1elhodqr · 11-03-2019 3:45pm

Wheres Me Jumper? wrote: »

Multiculturalism; Good
Ghettoisation/Segregation; Bad

Denmark would argue that their form of 'Multiculturalism' is equating directly to 'Ghettoisation'.

Hence they have to actually resort to 'forced integration' of multicultural ghetto kids.

By the term 'multiculural', their (like others) issues are not with the Chinese, S'Americans, Eastern Europeans etc etc,
- but with a certain group that often reject Danish values from the outset when choosing to live there.

Wibbs · 11-03-2019 3:55pm

sk8erboii wrote: »

Hahahhahahahahahhaah

The dark ages was a myth fed to sel books and DVDs. People advanced in this era by every metric.

"sel[sic] books and DVDs"? Wut? The term is a tad older than that. Before the printed book older. And while I argued earlier that the "dark ages" wasn't nearly so dark as is often believed, quite a number of "metrics" fell off a cliff after the fall of the western empire. Road infrastructure, the written word and of all things pottery just a few examples.

sk8erboii wrote: »

‘Interdependence and coexistence has been key to humanity’s success’

So has war, colonisation and conflict. Americans put men on the moon, but the words spoken on the face of it weren't in Navaho and the rockets that got them there were developed because of the greatest global conflict in history. As were the engines on the next Ryanair flight you take. As were the basic building blocks of the very device you're typing your replies on. War has fostered a huge proportion of technological advancement throughout human history.

Wheres Me Jumper? · 11-03-2019 4:04pm

Wibbs wrote: »

The first part is a big debate, mainly on what the definition involved is, the second? What if people actually want and seek to segregate themselves along group affiliations? This happens in every single modern "multicultural" western society. Understandably, as people like to be around people and culture that is familiar. Hell, just look at how many go on foreign holidays and seek out the familiar in "Irish" bars that serve "Irish" food. The British do it, the French, the Germans etc. How do you propose to engineer that out of basic low level human nature?

i reckon there is a world of difference between a French tourist who wishes to sample the local vin du pays and a Nigerian family who can only afford a HAPs rental and who needs to be close to their fellow countrymen/women in order to survive on a daily basis.

i think the difference is CHOICE

Wibbs · 11-03-2019 4:27pm

Wheres Me Jumper? wrote: »

i reckon there is a world of difference between a French tourist who wishes to sample the local vin du pays and a Nigerian family who can only afford a HAPs rental and who needs to be close to their fellow countrymen/women in order to survive on a daily basis.

i think the difference is CHOICE

Yet when people have "CHOICE", even higher socioeconomic groups, they still tend strongly towards wanting to associate and live in the same areas as their fellows. Go to expat enclaves in places like France and Italy and Spain. Mostly White middle class British/Irish/Swedish and they buy houses very close to each other. There are parts of places like Marbella in Spain where you could go a fair while without talking to a Spaniard, eating your full English breakfast while reading a locally produced British newspaper. With religious folks this is even more in play as they tend to buy/rent in areas close to church, chapel, synagogue, mosque. You can see this in the history of Dublin. Take one area, the South Circular road. At one time there were a lot of Jewish folks of all backgrounds living in the area because there was a synagogue. They moved out to the suburbs(or left for the US) over the last few decades and again concentrate near the synagogue. While back on the South Circular road, a mosque means there is now a concentration of Muslim folks of all backgrounds living in the area. It's what people overwhelmingly tend to do in nigh on every society that has or had multicultural elements(ancient Rome and early Muslim Baghdad and Istanbul being notable exceptions).

Wheres Me Jumper? · 11-03-2019 7:39pm

Wibbs wrote: »

Yet when people have "CHOICE", even higher socioeconomic groups, they still tend strongly towards wanting to associate and live in the same areas as their fellows. Go to expat enclaves in places like France and Italy and Spain. Mostly White middle class British/Irish/Swedish and they buy houses very close to each other. There are parts of places like Marbella in Spain where you could go a fair while without talking to a Spaniard, eating your full English breakfast while reading a locally produced British newspaper. With religious folks this is even more in play as they tend to buy/rent in areas close to church, chapel, synagogue, mosque. You can see this in the history of Dublin. Take one area, the South Circular road. At one time there were a lot of Jewish folks of all backgrounds living in the area because there was a synagogue. They moved out to the suburbs(or left for the US) over the last few decades and again concentrate near the synagogue. While back on the South Circular road, a mosque means there is now a concentration of Muslim folks of all backgrounds living in the area. It's what people overwhelmingly tend to do in nigh on every society that has or had multicultural elements(ancient Rome and early Muslim Baghdad and Istanbul being notable exceptions).

did you ever notice how people all tend to live on planet earth?

Atoms for Peace · 11-03-2019 8:05pm

sk8erboii wrote: »

Those are really bad examples mate. Japan became successful when it stopped its blockade in the late mid 19th century and let Americans and Europeans in for their industrial technology.

Saying china is insular is kinda racist, considering they consist of 56 ethnic groups. Unless you're saying they all look the same ?

Dunno about Korea.

Multiculturalism greatly facilitates the exchange of ideas. Its incredibly pedantic and self serving to say its not strictly MC, but how are you going to deal with Japanese electronics company if neither speaks the other's language?

Chinese multiculturalism hasn't been much fun for Tibet.

Wibbs · 11-03-2019 8:11pm

Wheres Me Jumper? wrote: »

did you ever notice how people all tend to live on planet earth?

So completely avoid the point put to you, a point that is consistent throughout the history of minority ethnic groups within a society, especially in recent history, whenever this notion of "multiculturalism" has been tried out and come up with some random empty sentence that brings absolutely nothing to the debate? OK... It seems you can't refute the point. So how are you going to solve this problem of basic human nature? Hope? Holding hands? The power of prayer?

And this is a very common problem with those who are in favour of what they think is "multiculturalism". It sounds great to them, but they don't quite understand, or simply refuse to acknowledge, the clear dynamics of it and just stick with the it sounds great part.

Wibbs · 11-03-2019 8:15pm

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

Chinese multiculturalism is hasn't been much for Tibet.

Never mind that he doesn't seem to understand that Japan while letting western ideas in, overall was and remains very much an ethnic monoculture. And what problems do they not have that the UK, France, Germany et al have(and it's beginning to kick off here)?

Or that China with her "56 ethnic groups" is and has been for a goodly time very much ruled by one and the rest are allowed to coexist so long as they stay in line.

Chris_Heilong · 11-03-2019 11:57pm

Not every culture is created equally, some are good and some are bad, We in Ireland have Irish culture, why do we want multiculturalism here? people from other countries yes but if you come here it is because you have decided that our culture is somewhere you would like to become a part of, not to colonize, not to create subcultures within a mono cultural society that only leads to fighting, crime and ghettos, Bring some of your flavor, yes, bring some of your language, sure but respect and learn as much as you can about your host country, do not expect the local culture to change for you. When a lot of people say 'multiculturalism is good' I think they misunderstand what it means and think it is something to do with multi-ethnic which is a completely different kettle of fish. Sorry if I offend the 'No Borders' extremists on here.

MontgomeryClift · 12-03-2019 11:54am

The problem with these discussions is the inaccuracy of terminology. It would be more accurate to use a term like "multiracialism" instead if multiculturalism, as this is what it usually refers to, especially when you see how races behave in a culturally consistent way no matter where in the world they go. Culture is downstream from race, as politics is downstream from culture.

I can't add much more to what Wibbs has said above, save to add that what we call "multiculturalism" is the intermediate situation that prevails before one culture (race) dominates all others within a political region. Also, the least tolerant, least inclusive, least altruistic culture is the one that will win this contest. See the case of Savile Town in Yorkshire for a case study in how this plays out.

BeerWolf · 12-03-2019 12:47pm

I wonder... if the Aztec religion was still around, would we condone human sacrifices in the West to be PC?

jmayo · 12-03-2019 1:11pm

Multiculturalism has become a buzzword to explain and gloss over the failure of those of one particular religion to assimilate and integrate into Western culture.

The US used to be termed the Melting Pot as it was meant to describe the fusion of nationalities, cultures and ethnicities into a monocultural US.

Hence the whole thing of pushing the flag, having the kids pledge allegiance, etc was to create an Americanised mono culture.

Yes the US had problems, discrimination and ghettos but by and large it worked.

You can't have a successful peaceful state when you have subcultures refusing to integrate and even worse trying to set their own rules and boundaries.
And that is what so called modern multiculturalism in Europe is.

Of course some will play it down to mean we have different foods, different national and cultural celebrations, different religions and they all happily coexist.

Well they damn well don't happily coexist when one culture is demanding special treatment and being allowed make up their own rules.
All the while you have members almost trying to overthrow the state and subvert it's security.

topper75 · 12-03-2019 1:20pm

You don't need mass movement of people to facilitate idea or tech exchange.

An open mind and an open border are utterly different things with utterly different consequences.

I think the OP's piece confuses them.

Odhinn · 12-03-2019 1:23pm

jmayo wrote: »

Multiculturalism has become a buzzword to explain and gloss over the failure of those of one particular religion to assimilate and integrate into Western culture.

The US used to be termed the Melting Pot as it was meant to describe the fusion of nationalities, cultures and ethnicities into a monocultural US.

..........

Deja vu...

https://www.irishcentral.com/roots/history/the-history-behind-famous-1889-anti-irish-puck-magazine-cartoon

gozunda · 12-03-2019 4:08pm

sk8erboii wrote: »

Hahahhahahahahahhaah The dark ages was a myth fed to sel books and DVDs. People advanced in this era by every metric.And shouldnt you be supporting the collapse of the (globalist) roman empire?

I presume you have not studied history then if you believe "People advanced in this era by every metric" (sic). You also fail to appear to understand the essential differences and impacts of trade and commerce compared to mass migrations of peoples. This has been been explained many times, but you continue to ignore it. Why is that?

I think that just like the word 'multicultural' you need to look up what 'globalist' actually means. Google is your friend lol ...

conorhal · 12-03-2019 7:46pm

gozunda wrote: »

I presume you have not studied history then if you believe "People advanced in this era by every metric" (sic). You also fail to appear to understand the essential differences and impacts of trade and commerce compared to mass migrations of peoples. This has been been explained many times, but you continue to ignore it. Why is that?

I think that just like the word 'multicultural' you need to look up what 'globalist' actually means. Google is your friend lol ...

You expect more from a poster that fails right in the title of the OP?
Apparently parroting the literal position of every state institution, political party, media organization and your MNC overlords ...in other words the entire establishment, constitutes a 'hot take' these days...

Here's a mindblower, not only can a multi-ethnic nation be mono-cultural, a mono-ethnic nation, like Luxembourg, for example can be multi-cultural.

sk8erboii · 12-03-2019 8:03pm

conorhal wrote: »

You expect more from a poster that fails right in the title of the OP?
Apparently parroting the literal position of every state institution, political party, media organization and your MNC overlords ...in other words the entire establishment, constitutes a 'hot take' these days...

Here's a mindblower, not only can a multi-ethnic nation be mono-cultural, a mono-ethnic nation, like Luxembourg, for example can be multi-cultural.

Its obviously hot enough to warrant 22 pages of exasperation from depressed white men

sk8erboii · 12-03-2019 8:05pm

gozunda wrote: »

I presume you have not studied history then if you believe "People advanced in this era by every metric" (sic). You also fail to appear to understand the essential differences and impacts of trade and commerce compared to mass migrations of peoples. This has been been explained many times, but you continue to ignore it. Why is that?

I think that just like the word 'multicultural' you need to look up what 'globalist' actually means. Google is your friend lol ...

Zzzzzzz i have formal education on the subject of the dark ages. Dont even bother with your rhetoric

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Ages_(historiography)

Its a myth.

Sweetemotion · 12-03-2019 8:19pm

sk8erboii wrote: »

Its obviously hot enough to warrant 22 pages of exasperation from depressed white men

Zzzzzzzzzzz.:rolleyes:

It's a thread you created, just to get a fix for your superiority complex.

conorhal · 12-03-2019 8:22pm

sk8erboii wrote: »

Its obviously hot enough to warrant 22 pages of exasperation from depressed white men

And you are what exactly?

I always piss myself laughing at that sentiment, reminds me of this guy...

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Wibbs · 12-03-2019 8:48pm

sk8erboii wrote: »

Zzzzzzz i have formal education on the subject of the dark ages. Dont even bother with your rhetoric

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Ages_(historiography)

Its a myth.

While it is an easy myth to write off the whole of the period between the fall of the western empire and the renaissance as being the "Dark Age", there most certainly was a few drop offs of "advancement by every metric". Take the written word. After the fall of Rome written records fell off a cliff and stayed that way for a couple of centuries. The rise of the Carolingian renaissance put the brakes on and reversed that trend, as did Irish scholarship, but after that period the written word falls off another cliff. Not just the written word either.

Yes some "metrics" improved, a couple of centuries after the fall, but it's just as daft to claim the Dark Ages are a complete myth and there weren't significant periods of loss of what had gone before(the European road infrastructure in many places didn't get back to Roman levels until the 1700's). If your "formal education" claimed otherwise then I would suggest you ask for your money back.

Then again it may not be a fault of your tutors as you tend to take absolutist positions as a general rule, particularly in rebuttals to those you see as the Enemy™.

Wibbs · 12-03-2019 8:50pm

conorhal wrote: »

And you are what exactly?

I always piss myself laughing at that sentiment, reminds me of this guy...

Sure C, but how do you know he's not a Black/Asian/Middle Easterner? He could well be. Though yeah it's more likely he's not.

sk8erboii · 12-03-2019 8:53pm

conorhal wrote: »

And you are what exactly?

I always piss myself laughing at that sentiment, reminds me of this guy...

Im a high functioning white male.

sk8erboii · 12-03-2019 8:56pm

Wibbs wrote: »

While it is an easy myth to write off the whole of the period between the fall of the western empire and the renaissance as being the "Dark Age", there most certainly was a few drop offs of "advancement by every metric". Take the written word. After the fall of Rome written records fell off a cliff and stayed that way for a couple of centuries. The rise of the Carolingian renaissance put the brakes on and reversed that trend, as did Irish scholarship, but after that period the written word falls off another cliff. Not just the written word either.

Yes some "metrics" improved, a couple of centuries after the fall, but it's just as daft to claim the Dark Ages are a complete myth and there weren't significant periods of loss of what had gone before(the European road infrastructure in many places didn't get back to Roman levels until the 1700's). If your "formal education" claimed otherwise then I would suggest you ask for your money back.

Then again it may not be a fault of your tutors as you tend to take absolutist positions as a general rule, particularly in rebuttals to those you see as the Enemy™.

Zzzzzzzzzzzz

Microanalysing time periods should be left to the experts. Most of whom agree that the darkages was a myth.

Strip away pendantic rhetoric and you dont really have anything to say.

Nice jab at university education though, im sure as you insinuate its all part of a conspiracy

Franz Von Peppercorn · 12-03-2019 9:13pm

sk8erboii wrote: »

Zzzzzzzzzzzz

Microanalysing time periods should be left to the experts. Most of whom agree that the darkages was a myth.

They don’t use the term anymore but obviously there was a significant drop in living standards, literacy, and population.

Strip away pendantic rhetoric and you dont really have anything to say.

He’s a lot more interesting as a poster than you are, smarter and more knowledgeable. You clearly don’t know what multi culturalism is, the subject of the thread. The thread you started.

Nice jab at university education though, im sure as you insinuate its all part of a conspiracy

Whenever some one starts a sentence with “I’m sure you...”, you can be pretty certain a strawman argument is coming and you didn’t disappoint.

conorhal · 12-03-2019 9:15pm

sk8erboii wrote: »

Im a high functioning white male.

:pac: You know what, I'm beginning to like you, you are indeed 'exceptional'.

Franz Von Peppercorn · 12-03-2019 9:15pm

sk8erboii wrote: »

Zzzzzzz i have formal education on the subject of the dark ages. Dont even bother with your rhetoric

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Ages_(historiography)

Its a myth.

You claimed to be an engineer not that long ago. Is that part of the formal training in engineering these days?

Wibbs · 12-03-2019 9:30pm

sk8erboii wrote: »

Zzzzzzzzzzzz

Microanalysing time periods should be left to the experts. Most of whom agree that the darkages was a myth.

Strip away pendantic rhetoric and you dont really have anything to say.

So you've no rebuttal then? Given you claim formal education in the subject, that strikes as odd. You do know it's OK to admit one is oversimplifying a subject. I do like the "pendantic" bit though. You seem to confuse pedantic rhetoric with a broader understanding of the facts of history.

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

You claimed to be an engineer not that long ago. Is that part of the formal training in engineering these days?

Watermill engineering. Maybe minoring in flying buttress dynamics.

sk8erboii · 12-03-2019 9:44pm

Wibbs wrote: »

So you've no rebuttal then? Given you claim formal education in the subject, that strikes as odd. You do know it's OK to admit one is oversimplifying a subject. I do like the "pendantic" bit though. You seem to confuse pedantic rhetoric with a broader understanding of the facts of history.

Watermill engineering. Maybe minoring in flying buttress dynamics.

Ok im assuming this is legitimately a troll (either that or you people never went to college) but elective modules (as in classes outside of your main course) have existed for decades now.

If you didnt know about this, i guess it contextualizes the level of discourse you people are really capable of.

Which is to say you dont really have any fvcking clue lol

_Kaiser_ · 12-03-2019 9:48pm

Wasting your time trying to debate the matter folks. The pattern with such people is always thus:

- Make statement with little/no valid supporting evidence and expect universal support
- Criticise/deflect/ignore anything or anyone not validating them
- Virtue Signal Bonus points for working in any "-ism", "-phobe", or other similar buzzword

The irony of course is that by carrying on in that matter, they do their own argument more damage than anyone else responding to them ever could.
People don't like being insulted and just harden their attitudes to others expressing similar views and the subject matter in question.

sk8erboii · 12-03-2019 9:49pm

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Wasting your time trying to debate the matter. The pattern with such people is always thus:

- Make statement with little/no valid supporting evidence and expect universal support
- Criticise/deflect/ignore anything or anyone not validating them
- Virtue Signal Bonus points for working in any "-ism", "-phobe", or other similar buzzword

The irony of course is that by carrying on in that matter, they do their own argument more damage than anyone else responding to them ever could.
People don't like being insulted and just harden their attitudes to others expressing similar views and the subject matter in question.

Ya need a safe space do ya?

_Kaiser_ · 12-03-2019 9:52pm

sk8erboii wrote: »

Ya need a safe space do ya?

And with that, you prove my point for me:

- Virtue Signal Bonus points for working in any "-ism", "-phobe", or other similar buzzword

Come back when you actually have something to say.

Wibbs · 12-03-2019 9:56pm

sk8erboii wrote: »

Ok im assuming this is legitimately a troll (either that or you people never went to college) but elective modules (as in classes outside of your main course) have existed for decades now.

"High functioning" yet doesn't get humour.

If you didnt know about this, i guess it contextualizes the level of discourse you people are really capable of.

Which is to say you dont really have any fvcking clue lol

You massively oversimplify a period(several periods actually) of Western European history, just as ineptly as those who paint said period with the title of "Dark Ages", while claiming formal education in the subject and yet accuse others of not having "any fvcking clue lol"? Hmm... OK. If one is so sure of one's facts and can back them up surely it is far easier to refute rather than running straight to "lol"? Just a suggestion. One I doubt you will take up mind you. By the by; linking to a wiki page that refutes your cocksure contention that Europe "advanced by every metric" in the period(s) is not exactly prudent if you wish to illustrate your argument.

Dr_serious2 · 12-03-2019 10:20pm

sk8erboii wrote: »

LOOOOL im actually cringing that somebody thought of this and wrote it out.

Listen guy, as much as you wanna diagnose usernames on boards.ie you will never be a psychologist. you’re not even able to analyze your own words

Try going on a rant about your ‘ancestors’, ‘native culture’ in real life and you’ll get about as much respect as that irexit conference.

But i get it, boards is a safe space for you.

You fool. Any grown man who calls himself after An Avril Lavigne song and says LOOOOL is a sad imitation of an adult. Do you adopt the same Americanisms in your speech as you do in your text?

gozunda · 12-03-2019 10:20pm

sk8erboii wrote: »

Zzzzzzz i have formal education on the subject of the dark ages. Dont even bother with your rhetoric
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Ages_(historiography)
Its a myth*.

Ah I see your 'formal education' on the subject derives from The University of Wikipedia.

It's strange then that you didn't use said source to better help you understand "multiculturism" et al

And yet despite the majority of posters in the thread pointing out your lack of understanding and poor standard of comprehension - you persist in your daft assertions and throw various silly ad hominem such as above. Why is that? An attempt at saving face perhaps?

* If you had bothered reading the Wikipedia article you linked - even that source acknowledges that:

when used by some historians today, the term "Dark Ages" is meant to describe the economic, political, and cultural problems of the era. For others, the term Dark Ages is intended to be neutral, expressing the idea that the events of the period seem 'dark' to us because of the paucity of the historical record...

SEPT 23 1989 · 12-03-2019 10:28pm

The Middle East was miles ahead of the west in maths science etc at one stage in history and all that stopped dead

What happened?

Wibbs · 12-03-2019 11:00pm

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

The Middle East was miles ahead of the west in maths science etc at one stage in history and all that stopped dead

What happened?

That's an interesting one indeed S. And has many parallels with the Irish in the early medieval and the flowering of same. Like us the pre unifying religion Arabic Middle East had been largely an oral culture, a warrior culture, just on the edges and outside of the Classical World.

When Islam came along and the oral history was codified into the written word, they discovered and experienced like us the novelty and power of literacy like a first love. And like first love they couldn't get enough of it. They devoured all of the written word they could get their hands on, mostly Greek, but with others in the mix(we were mostly Latin with others in the mix) and saw the exploration and dissemination of it as a religious duty. And not just the religious texts. And wanted to spread that word beyond.

And it went so well for a time, but then - and IIRC it came down to one man(whose name embarrassingly escapes) - who went insular and fundamental and decided that such things were unreligious and should be restricted if not banned. And he had enough power to make that start to happen. And that great flowering was smothered soon after.

In the Irish case it was the deference and in many ways capitulation to the Roman Church, a church that had long been deeply suspicious and troubled by the popularity of this Celtic influence of wild barbarians that threatened their hegemony in mainland Europe that brought about similar.

sk8erboii · 23-03-2019 1:04pm

gozunda wrote: »

Ah I see your 'formal education' on the subject derives from The University of Wikipedia.

It's strange then that you didn't use said source to better help you understand "multiculturism" et al

And yet despite the majority of posters in the thread pointing out your lack of understanding and poor standard of comprehension - you persist in your daft assertions and throw various silly ad hominem such as above. Why is that? An attempt at saving face perhaps?

* If you had bothered reading the Wikipedia article you linked - even that source acknowledges that:

Nope. Derives from three years in an actual university. Im more qualified than you. Better accept that. Otherwise you might go around thinking the Dark Ages as painted by Horrible Histories was real

sk8erboii · 23-03-2019 1:06pm

Dr_serious2 wrote: »

You fool. Any grown man who calls himself after An Avril Lavigne song and says LOOOOL is a sad imitation of an adult. Do you adopt the same Americanisms in your speech as you do in your text?

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Cringe. Honestly man stop trying to diagnose forum names it’s embarrassing

defrule · 23-03-2019 4:18pm

The way I see it, there is always going to be upsides and downsides. We here or at least many of us here are privileged enough to live a life that benefits from multiculturalism but there are people who experience the downsides and consequently don't view it the same way we do.

In a way our experiences blind us to the downsides. The danger and the common thing now is that we simply label the less fortunate as bigots, haters, racists or whatever without understanding that they have been truly hurt by the same thing that benefits us.

mynamejeff · 23-03-2019 5:20pm

sk8erboii wrote: »

Im a high functioning white male.

High Functioning lol

Thats a phrase i associate with some one who has a mild disability but has managed to do better than expected in life .

your dont work in MacDonalds by any chance do you ?

sk8erboii · 23-03-2019 5:45pm

mynamejeff wrote: »

High Functioning lol

Thats a phrase i associate with some one who has a mild disability but has managed to do better than expected in life .

your dont work in MacDonalds by any chance do you ?

Nope. Work in a powerplant, giving power to over 230,000 homes.

You Back to the warehouse on monday?

mynamejeff · 23-03-2019 5:46pm

sk8erboii wrote: »

Nope. Work in a powerplant, giving power to over 230,000 homes.

You Back to the warehouse on monday?

So does Homer Simpson :-)

sk8erboii · 23-03-2019 5:48pm

mynamejeff wrote: »

So does Homer Simpson :-)

Zing! You really got me there

sk8erboii · 23-03-2019 5:52pm

Rowdy Andy wrote: »

If multiculturalism is so wonderful why are the 'diverse' parts of European cities such dangerous ****holes?

If diversity is so great, why is it causing such problems in Europe in the form of crime, Islamic terrorism and social problems?

Loaded questions full of presuppositions. I’d argue but i can already tell its gonna be a long winded rhetoric full of low IQ sentiments.

mynamejeff · 23-03-2019 5:54pm

sk8erboii wrote: »

Zing! You really got me there

Well its not difficult now is it ?
What with your 3 year university education and poorly researched rants on a complex subject you failed to understand because you have no practical experience in the real world.

Back to the university of life with you kid

Roger Hassenforder · 23-03-2019 7:11pm

sk8erboii wrote: »

Loaded questions full of presuppositions. I’d argue but i can already tell its gonna be a long winded rhetoric full of low IQ sentiments.

Ah Jeez, dont be so hard on yourself.
Maybe try snappy bullet points to avoid garrulousness?

Hot take: Multiculturalism is good

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