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Trump vs Biden 2020, Ultimate battle for the fate of our universe (pt 3)Read OP 01/11

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,381 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    Just 3 months left of this deranged man as POTUS.

    Maybe not that much.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,934 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Maybe not that much.

    Wouldn't actually surprise me if he left in a huff before January.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,381 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    Wouldn't actually surprise me if he left in a huff before January.

    Or ran out of puff before November.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    Great news, POTUS will be leaving Walter Reed witin the hour. I find these words refreshing at a time where there is so much negativity surrounding the disease:

    "Dont be afraid of Covid, dont let it dominate your life"

    I predict a few days with his loving wife & family and he will be back on the campeign trail kicking ass as usual!!

    ***

    Donald Trump says he is feeling "really good" and will be leaving hospital tonight after being treated for coronavirus.

    The US president tweeted: "I will be leaving the great Walter Reed Medical Center today at 6:30 PM." (11.30pm UK time).

    "Feeling really good! Don't be afraid of Covid. Don't let it dominate your life," he added.

    "We have developed, under the Trump Administration, some really great drugs & knowledge. I feel better than I did 20 years ago!"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,381 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    Great news, POTUS will be leaving Walter Reed witin the hour. I find these words refreshing at a time where there is so much negativity surrounding the disease:

    "Dont be afraid of Covid, dont let it dominate your life"

    I predict a few days with his loving wife & family and he will be back on the campeign trail kicking ass as usual!!

    ***

    Donald Trump says he is feeling "really good" and will be leaving hospital tonight after being treated for coronavirus.

    The US president tweeted: "I will be leaving the great Walter Reed Medical Center today at 6:30 PM." (11.30pm UK time).

    "Feeling really good! Don't be afraid of Covid. Don't let it dominate your life," he added.

    "We have developed, under the Trump Administration, some really great drugs & knowledge. I feel better than I did 20 years ago!"

    Do you want Trump to be re-elected?


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,200 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Great news, POTUS will be leaving Walter Reed witin the hour. I find these words refreshing at a time where there is so much negativity surrounding the disease:

    "Dont be afraid of Covid, dont let it dominate your life"

    I predict a few days with his loving wife & family and he will be back on the campeign trail kicking ass as usual!!

    ***

    Donald Trump says he is feeling "really good" and will be leaving hospital tonight after being treated for coronavirus.

    The US president tweeted: "I will be leaving the great Walter Reed Medical Center today at 6:30 PM." (11.30pm UK time).

    "Feeling really good! Don't be afraid of Covid. Don't let it dominate your life," he added.

    "We have developed, under the Trump Administration, some really great drugs & knowledge. I feel better than I did 20 years ago!"

    To be honest , that's deeply disrespectful to the 210k+ Americans that have died from it.

    Did they all die because they were afraid and let in dominate their lives?

    And - I don't believe him for a second , as others have said , he's simply moving Hospitals. It's optics nothing more.

    There is simply no way that an overweight 74 year old man that required Oxygen multiple times 3 days ago and that is still taking a cocktail of experimental drugs is "Feeling great , better than he did 20 years ago"

    I wish him good health and a speedy recovery , but he is lying through his teeth about his condition.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,279 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    Be a bit embarrassing if they have to wheel him out back to Walter Reed. Do we know how many days it’s been since he started having symptoms? Less than a week? If he makes it to two weeks since showing symptoms and he’s still doing well then I’d say he’s out of the woods. Most people who are going to get a serious illness generally start to develop it around day 9 - 12. Boris was admitted to ICU 9 days after he started having symptoms.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,768 ✭✭✭timsey tiger


    I just hope that the person who has to slap all that orange muck on his face doesn't get badly sick, because they won't get the level of care Trunp got.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭Gervais08


    MadYaker wrote: »
    Be a bit embarrassing if they have to wheel him out back to Walter Reed. Do we know how many days it’s been since he started having symptoms? Less than a week? If he makes it to two weeks since showing symptoms and he’s still doing well then I’d say he’s out of the woods. Most people who are going to get a serious illness generally start to develop it around day 9 - 12. Boris was admitted to ICU 9 days after he started having symptoms.

    Excellent point - I had it early (last week March/first April) and felt worse in the second week and am only young (well, 50!!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭dePeatrick


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    To be honest , that's deeply disrespectful to the 210k+ Americans that have died from it.

    Did they all die because they were afraid and let in dominate their lives?

    And - I don't believe him for a second , as others have said , he's simply moving Hospitals. It's optics nothing more.

    There is simply no way that an overweight 74 year old man that required Oxygen multiple times 3 days ago and that is still taking a cocktail of experimental drugs is "Feeling great , better than he did 20 years ago"

    I wish him good health and a speedy recovery , but he is lying through his teeth about his condition.
    That's if he had it at all, I would not put it past him to fake the whole thing to see if he can pull back voters. Just heard on the World Service that 69% of people in the US do not believe him. I'm quite sure they knew quickly after the debate that his numbers were taking a hammering and there had to be a rabbit pulled out of a hat.

    If he does not return to hospital in the next 5 days then I am convinced it is all a piece of political theatre from an ex reality tv star.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,340 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    That man is a clear and present danger to the lives of millions of people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,764 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    I think it is pretty clear that he got it. He is clearly not well, looks like he lost some weight and he is clearly struggling to breathe and is in some discomfort.

    This is all political show. He hasn't left hospital, just moved to another hospital (the WH has full medical facilities) and it is not usual for people to convalescence at home.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I'm beginning to think we're primarily gonna see edited videos of him for the next month.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,494 ✭✭✭francois


    He was definitely struggling on occasion with breathing during the video.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,200 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Video report here from CNN showing him re-recording him "entrance"

    No Masks , photographers and camera crews on the balcony and inside the double-doors all there filming and re-filming the entrance.

    All so he can pretend to his flock that he's fine and there's nothing to worry about.

    It's like the last days of the Supreme Soviet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,851 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Firstly, I know Covid-19 is terrible, I am not trying to underplay it at all but in Kayleigh's case, it likely would be a bad flu at worse. More likely she will have mild symptoms if at all. She will not have to have her breasts removed to beat Covid-19 so yes, she has been through FAR FAR worse. To suggest otherwise is frankly bizarre.

    The mastectomy was, of course, prophylactic - she's genetically predisposed to early cancer, which is sad and too bad for her. However, she was never ill from it, so she hasn't 'beaten' any disease. She in fact was at a hockey game 4 days after the surgery: https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/kayleigh-mcenany-preventative-double-mastectomy-age-30

    And as I pointed out, Breast Cancer is less fatal than Covid. How many die per year from it in the US? Around 50,000. Covid so far? 210,000

    Covid can be fatal, in fact, someone that's had major surgery is more likely to succumb to Covid.

    And, I think the likelihood of her infecting her staffers and family fairly high, don't you?

    Plus, whatever diseases she might have doesn't keep her from being a muppet, which is where this arc of the discussion comes from. A year prior to working for Trump, she openly disparaged him on Fox news as well as other places. Soon as she saw the opportunity, she jumped and became a card-carrying Trumplodyte. If not muppet, I'll say 'consciousness-less opportunist' if that makes you feel better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,744 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    I'm beginning to think we're primarily gonna see edited videos of him for the next month.

    That'll be tricky with the debates, unfortunately for Trump they're the only thing that could possibly reverse the slide in the polls


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,764 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    I think wahtever chance he had a getting abump in the polls due to COVID will have reduced significantly with how he has carried on the last few days. The triumphalism, the bravado, the recklessness. It plays perfectly to his base, but they are already locked in and accounted for. But I cannot see it going down well with anybody else.

    Everyone can see the manipulation going on, the lack of empathy for those that are suffering, the lack of ability to understand the fear and worry that the US is going through right now.

    Only 24 hours ago he was saying that having been infected gave him a better insight, a chance to really learn, all about it. Then he comes out saying that it basically is a nothing burger and all those that died simply didn't try hard enough, or were not as amazing as he was.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,653 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    duploelabs wrote: »
    That'll be tricky with the debates, unfortunately for Trump they're the only thing that could possibly reverse the slide in the polls

    I cant see him doing debates, one coughing fit live on TV and he knows he's done.


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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,200 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    I cant see him doing debates, one coughing fit live on TV and he knows he's done.

    Yep..

    Carefully edited Video Campaigning from here on out I suspect


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Think debates are out of the question, particularly since it's clearly still active in his system. Might not even manage a negative test this month.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,200 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Things are not looking good polling wise.

    Even Rasmussen where you'd expect to see some impact of a "rally round the flag" effect shows his numbers are still terrible.

    His disapproval rating holding steady at 53% where it's largely been since the debates , with 47% "Strongly Disapproving".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,934 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    https://twitter.com/Walldo/status/1312866609690705920

    "I would die for that man"

    What the fcuk is wrong with these people?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    "I would die for that man"

    What the fcuk is wrong with these people?

    Maybe he just really liked the apprentice?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,587 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    https://twitter.com/Walldo/status/1312866609690705920

    "I would die for that man"

    What the fcuk is wrong with these people?

    It's a cult. Cults seem to be a very American thing and the only explanation I can fathom that makes sense is that they're in a cult. It's the only way someone could display such irrational, deranged and sycophantic behaviour.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I'd nearly say a few of ye that absolutely hate the man and give out about him constantly might see in that guy a kind of inverse reflection of yourselves..


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,393 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    I'd nearly say a few of ye that absolutely hate the man and give out about him constantly might see in that guy a kind of inverse reflection of yourselves..

    Anyone?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,587 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    I'd nearly say a few of ye that absolutely hate the man and give out about him constantly might see in that guy a kind of inverse reflection of yourselves..

    It's wearingly predictable that Trump supporters are more concerned with their idol being criticised than with hundreds of thousands of dead Americans.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    It's wearingly predictable that Trump supporters are more concerned with their idol being criticised than with hundreds of thousands of dead Americans.

    ??..Are you calliing me a trump supporter?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,587 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    ??..Are you calling me a trump supporter?

    Aren't you? That'd be an odd reaction if you weren't.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,764 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    I'd nearly say a few of ye that absolutely hate the man and give out about him constantly might see in that guy a kind of inverse reflection of yourselves..

    Or is it that he is constantly doing things worthy of giving out about?

    He has fermented such division, such hatred of his opponents. I mean, think back to how much hatred and vitriol he both directed towards, and stirred up in his supporters, towards HC.

    Hate is a very emotional laden term to use. It puts people on the defensive right away as nobody wants to be seen to hate. So instead of talking about the faults of Trump, the conversation turns to the hate of people.

    But as usual, it is a made-up enemy. By and large, most people have wished Trump the best in dealing with the virus. Biden, Harris, HC, Obama, MSM. Anyone of any note has expressed a desire for Trump to pull through.

    But instead of thanking people for their support, instead of using this unique situation to start to heal the rifts in the country, Trump has doubled down with his rhetoric that he is strong, he faced the virus and won, that others obviously failed, and that despite all the experts he has been right all along and the virus is nothing to worry about (despite him just being giving the best medical treatment in the world).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,780 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    Aren't you? That'd be an odd reaction if you weren't.

    I'm not and I agree with him


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Aren't you? That'd be an odd reaction if you weren't.

    Not particularly..TBH I just think the ire he inspires in people is kind of stupid..And the comment alluded to the fact that if someone is that polarising it will conversely inspire the kind of devotion of yer man in the video saying he'd die for him..

    Although tbf, I have absolutely no time for the democrats after the last few years either, and I really don't like Harris..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,340 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    It's a cult. Cults seem to be a very American thing and the only explanation I can fathom that makes sense is that they're in a cult. It's the only way someone could display such irrational, deranged and sycophantic behaviour.

    There's times I think I'd actually be interested to sit down with one of these people and hear about why they have Trump on such an immovable pedestal and why they think he's the second arrival of Christ.

    Then, I come to my senses.


  • Registered Users Posts: 629 ✭✭✭Mehapoy


    PropJoe10 wrote: »
    There's times I think I'd actually be interested to sit down with one of these people and hear about why they have Trump on such an immovable pedestal and why they think he's the second arrival of Christ.

    Then, I come to my senses.

    It's going to make some interesting psychology research in a few years, how a reality tv star turned politician inspired such cult like devotion in a large percentage of people.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,200 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    PropJoe10 wrote: »
    There's times I think I'd actually be interested to sit down with one of these people and hear about why they have Trump on such an immovable pedestal and why they think he's the second arrival of Christ.

    Then, I come to my senses.

    It's a behaviour I'll never understand , whether it's with Trump or with a Pop-star etc.

    I've just never understood the whole concept of "Hero Worship" - This blind adulation of someone that you've never met and likely never will.

    How is that guy any different to a 15 year old girl screaming about how she wants to have Harry Styles (or whoever) babies and that she'll kill anyone that gets in the way of their relationship.

    It's a mental illness plain and simple - Trump didn't cause it (nor did Harry Styles or whoever) , but he certainly attracts that type of person due to his behaviour.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,587 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    PropJoe10 wrote: »
    There's times I think I'd actually be interested to sit down with one of these people and hear about why they have Trump on such an immovable pedestal and why they think he's the second arrival of Christ.

    Then, I come to my senses.

    Nah. I've family members like this and all they really come out with is how great he is. Nothing more.

    The thing is that nobody has ever asked these people to have a really deep think about why they're voting for him. They just lap up OANN, Fox News, Breitbart etc.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    I'd nearly say a few of ye that absolutely hate the man and give out about him constantly might see in that guy a kind of inverse reflection of yourselves..

    A person should be judged by their actions and if a person's actions are cúntish, then judging the man to be a cúnt is perfectly rational.

    What's irrational is viewing every legit criticism as a form of bias.

    I don't know if you've noticed this pattern yet but those who dislike Trump tend to use evidence to back up what it is that they dislike while those who like him have a habit of posting doctored videos, sycophantic praise, poorly written screed about leftists, slogans, debunked nonsense from the circular human centipede of right-wing twitter and some very uninformed and ignorant takes of events.

    Trump is unfit for the office and demonstrates this every day. That is my own opinion but I can point to plenty of things that he has done that justify this opinion. You can call that TDS if you like or look for some underlying condition to explain peoples' dislike of the man but if you think that all those people who dislike like the man are being irrational while those who heap sycophantic praise on a conman are the rational ones, you might want to have a little bit of a rethink.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,394 ✭✭✭1800_Ladladlad


    My God. How in the world does he get away with it. Now if Trump said this , there would outrage and it would be used as ammo for years and years to come. Biden is a vile creep.

    https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1313248400360398848


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,997 ✭✭✭randd1


    A person should be judged by their actions and if a person's actions are cúntish, then judging the man to be a cúnt is perfectly rational.

    What's irrational is viewing every legit criticism as a form of bias.

    I don't know if you've noticed this pattern yet but those who dislike Trump tend to use evidence to back up what it is that they dislike while those who like him have a habit of posting doctored videos, sycophantic praise, poorly written screed about leftists, slogans, debunked nonsense from the circular human centipede of right-wing twitter and some very uninformed and ignorant takes of events.

    Trump is unfit for the office and demonstrates this every day. That is my own opinion but I can point to plenty of things that he has done that justify this opinion. You can call that TDS if you like or look for some underlying condition to explain peoples' dislike of the man but if you think that all those people who dislike like the man are being irrational while those who heap sycophantic praise on a conman are the rational ones, you might want to have a little bit of a rethink.

    Cultists don't think or rethink, they follow the dear leader with absolute loyalty and that's all they need.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,764 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    My God. How in the world does he get away with it. Now if Trump said this , there would outrage and it would be used as ammo for years and years to come. Biden is a vile creep.

    https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1313248400360398848

    What do you take from what he said?


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,200 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    My God. How in the world does he get away with it. Now if Trump said this , there would outrage and it would be used as ammo for years and years to come. Biden is a vile creep.

    https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1313248400360398848

    I'm going to go with - 16 second Video , shortly followed by a longer video that gives context to the statement making it an absolute nothing.

    Just like EVERY OTHER VIDEO you have ever posted here..


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,587 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    My God. How in the world does he get away with it. Now if Trump said this , there would outrage and it would be used as ammo for years and years to come. Biden is a vile creep.

    https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1313248400360398848

    Let me know when he describes neo-Nazis as "very fine people".

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,200 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    I'm going to go with - 16 second Video , shortly followed by a longer video that gives context to the statement making it an absolute nothing.

    Just like EVERY OTHER VIDEO you have ever posted here..

    Yep...

    At about 11 minutes in the full clip above.

    He's visiting a Haitian Cultural centre , the girls had done some traditional dance earlier and the comment was "I'm coming back" and he would see the same dancers again in 4 years time for the next Election campaign.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,393 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    Just to go back to something posted in the previous thread regarding Project Veritas.

    BREAKING: Liban Osman, subject of Project Veritas alleged voter fraud story, tells @LydenFOX9 he was offered $10K by Omar Jamal to say he was collecting ballots for Congresswoman @IlhanMN.

    Omar Jamal was Project Veritas’ insider in the Somali community


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    My God. How in the world does he get away with it. Now if Trump said this , there would outrage and it would be used as ammo for years and years to come. Biden is a vile creep.

    Eh you're making a pretty sleazy interpretation of it more than anything else. Surprised Woods would want to bring that up given his own reputation.


    https://variety.com/2017/film/news/amber-tamblyn-james-woods-open-letter-1202557447/


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,768 ✭✭✭timsey tiger


    My God. How in the world does he get away with it. Now if Trump said this , there would outrage and it would be used as ammo for years and years to come. Biden is a vile creep.

    https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1313248400360398848

    Oh. so I guess I'll change my vote to the pussy grabbing climate change denier. Dickish move Ladladlad posting doctored videos like that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,256 ✭✭✭Billy Mays


    1800_Ladladlad's video clip posts can be summed up as follows

    JealousShinyHousefly-size_restricted.gif


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,906 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    Mehapoy wrote: »
    It's going to make some interesting psychology research in a few years, how a reality tv star turned politician inspired such cult like devotion in a large percentage of people.

    I think a lot of it is trolling, it's fun to enrage people, so keep at it, some of the posters on here are word for word the same as what's being said on the tv and radio in defending Trump and attacking Biden.

    Some people see him as being most representative of their values (even though he's probably the person with the least republican values on a personal basis), and distort any other reality away.

    However, it is funny seeing the depths they plumb, and how thin-skinned a lot of them are (e.g. SilentCorner phrasing everything as a question, kidchamo/biker79 ignoring everything else and posting messianic praise, Ladlad posting videos from his facebook feed).


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 285 ✭✭TexasTornado


    Mehapoy wrote: »
    It's going to make some interesting psychology research in a few years, how a reality tv star turned politician inspired such cult like devotion in a large percentage of people.

    In a few years time someone will come along and make Trump look like a saint.


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