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Coronavirus and the effect on Public transport

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  • Registered Users Posts: 561 ✭✭✭thenightman


    Bus was shambles this morning. First bus didn't stop at all due to being full/driver following rules and second I got on soon had people standing, people sitting in the marked off seats, people with mask off to drink coffee etc. I work for government in essential service and can't work from home. This is as bad/unsafe as PT has been since original lockdown. At least then the sectors allowed open were restricted so buses weren't busy at all & not much traffic about.

    Dreading when kids are back next week now, full buses plus bus stuck in school traffic so on bus for longer.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    Bus was shambles this morning. First bus didn't stop at all due to being full/driver following rules and second I got on soon had people standing, people sitting in the marked off seats, people with mask off to drink coffee etc. I work for government in essential service and can't work from home. This is as bad/unsafe as PT has been since original lockdown. At least then the sectors allowed open were restricted so buses weren't busy at all & not much traffic about.

    Dreading when kids are back next week now, full buses plus bus stuck in school traffic so on bus for longer.

    If it's just going to depend on the induvidual driver how many the bus takes then there's no point on limiting capacity. Even in normal times a full bus can very much depend on each induvidual driver some drivers will go well above the limit and others will go past full when the bus has lower than the capacity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    I honestly feel terribly bad leaving people behind, feels ridiculous when I look and see seats everywhere and loads of room but the powers that be have given us a never and I follow these as best I can.

    Common sense too can be used also as I've had more then 17 on but it's a difficult one.... If people are together they sit together which then frees up another space and with the school kids they just like on and sit on top of eachother.

    All I'll say is if one doesn't need to travel then just don't for the next few weeks, I understand it's hard but if we can get the numbers down hopefully we won't be ruined.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    I honestly feel terribly bad leaving people behind, feels ridiculous when I look and see seats everywhere and loads of room but the powers that be have given us a never and I follow these as best I can.

    Common sense too can be used also as I've had more then 17 on but it's a difficult one.... If people are together they sit together which then frees up another space and with the school kids they just like on and sit on top of eachother.

    All I'll say is if one doesn't need to travel then just don't for the next few weeks, I understand it's hard but if we can get the numbers down hopefully we won't be ruined.

    How do feel about drivers who disregard the limits entirely?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    GT89 wrote: »
    How do feel about drivers who disregard the limits entirely?

    Knowingly doing so they should have more respect for others and themselves.....

    Its all down to do we want any easy day or a day of abuse.... Many reporting been abused for following as best as possible and even people going nuts for 1 over etc etc.... No matter what we are wrong.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    TutboTommy wrote: »
    Normally not a fan of these forums for many reasons, but I had to correct some of the nonsense.

    I don't know if he was a troll or not, but to the guy who thought there is no enforcement on PT there was and there is, you just have not seen it yet.
    I work with the health minister so i'm aware of all the strategies they are using and some of them are pretty clever. They are stopping people getting off busses at major points, sometimes even boarding the bus before the stop and having driver close the door behind them.

    The guards get lied to about 20 times a day, it's part of the job you have to learn to live with pretty quickly, the one plus side of it is because they get lied to so often they are good at spotting it when you are doing it. If tey doubt you they might ask for some sort of proof of what you are saying.

    Remember you can't just say ''shopping'' and that's it, look at the language of the actual Act of Oireachtas and the actual miniserial order it can't just be an excuse it has to be a ''reasonable'' excuse. So if you are far from home because you are going to get chemo in hospital ok. If you are shopping but you have gone 60 miles from home past loads of possible supermarkets, chemests etc, you have failed the 'reasonable' test.

    They are also checking rail they may not ride the actual train, because we don't have a transport police they can't go outside their district (which is stupid) but the train will hold while they do their thing. They often pick major interchanges but I've also seen them at smaller stations.
    Incidentally, if you don't have a ticket you are technically tresspassing and that's probable cause for a search...they are catching a lot of criminals by using the covid regs as a gateway!

    I think DBs idea of different fares at different times was a great notion...what seems to be happening, over and over, is the 3-4 members of the cabinet that have some cop on and brains bring stuff to the full cabinet and then the rest rip the ideas apart and some half assed watered down version comes out later. That is what happened with the house party regs, they were ripped apart and no no no last time, then covid spiked like crazy and they had to go do what was suggested in the first place...a law to deal with house parties.

    THe reason they are scared re:50 percent is masks are not the total protection people seem to think they are.

    There are two issues I think the govt and the last one should have put more emphasis on:

    1. Covid can wreck your body even if it does not kill you, search the terms 'long term covid' etc and see about the scarred lungs, the never ending low energy, the heart problems etc etc at the start of this they were eager to put out the message 'dont worry most people just get flu like symptoms v few die' that they put out the suggestion that if you don't die you are fine...that's not the case, there is a huge third category. 60% have nurological symptoms months after they have ''recovered'

    2. Masks are not a cure all, they reduce they dont' eliminate. Even the masks they wear in hospitals don't stop everything escaping, so we can't pack the busses again even if everyone is masked. There is some debate to be had (there is a range of possible reasonable options in every covid decision) about what % but we can't just stuff people in like before.

    GT you are flat out WRONG that it only affects vunerable people severely, that is not true. THey are the most affected group that is not the same as saying it ONLY affects them. There are 28 year old athletes with scarred lungs for life and 30 year olds with no energy no matter how much they sleep, people with brain infarks because of lack of oxigen. It's NOT a case of die or the flu.

    This things way more contagious than the flu and way more lethal.

    If we had not locked down earlier in the year there would have been exponential growth and 30-50 000 deaths.
    In addition, these vunerabe people can't just be thrown to the wolves. They mix with everyone else all the time there is no way to seal them off, you are talking about around 30% of the country here, everyone thiks that group includes just old people but it's a wide category. There are 20 year olds who are expected to live a normal lifespan, and going back to toral normal before a vaccine or a proper testing system would write them off.

    You can't bloddy seal the vunerable off, they have LIVES they have to go to work they have to go to the supermarket they will be breathing the same air as you no matter how well protected they are.


    There is a boatload of new quick test kits order coming in december that will allow people to test themselves and at work etc which should allow things to open a bit, they are quick and easy they may be a game changer they are already on order.
    Theres also several vaccine trials looking promising several of which would be manufactured here. Though the vaccine will come in phases certain groups will get it first.

    This won't take forever. I had someone take my head off on the 145/155 the other day. The driver got out of his cab and asked a woman (to my shame wearing a jacket from the same uni as me) to stop eating and put her mask on. She did, I got a panic in my chest I'm working from home loads because liver issues mean I'm in the vunerable group despite being extremely fit otherwise. I opened two of the small slide windows to clear the air since I just realized (which i had not before) someone maskless was sitting right behind me. She rather hysterically got up and slammed them shut. I kinda lost it and said they stay open until I get off so the air can clear, or I'll f---- toss you off the bus myself. This may be something some people read about but I have to read all these horror reports at work and in news knowing full well it could be me gasping on a respirator any day because someone was too lazy to follow some easy rules.


    Our grandparents and great grandparents endured plagues, carpet bombins, world wars, genocide, famines, and diseases like smallpox with 50 and 90percent death rates...if we can't handle a few restrictions here and there we ought to be embarrased to be their successors.

    Can not believe this obvious waffle got 9 likes, and has remained up. 60% of people who’ve had Covid have neurological symptoms months after??

    Using outliers like the “28yo athlete” to spread fear.

    When was Ireland carpet bombed? When was the genocide?

    Absolute nonsense.

    Buses have been busy this week again. Be a nightmare next week when the kids are back in school, I’ve started going to work an hour early to miss the rush, but getting home is a pain in the hoop. I’ve only one option, 33/a, to get when I live. Full bus, wait half an hour and pray.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    Noticed the seat signage on some buses now seems to be placed on the wrong seats. The bus I was on today seemed to have yellow signs on random seats not spaced at 2m apart in some instances. Also some aisle seats had no signage whereas in the past it was only window seats in use.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    GT89 wrote: »
    Noticed the seat signage on some buses now seems to be placed on the wrong seats. The bus I was on today seemed to have yellow signs on random seats not spaced at 2m apart in some instances. Also some aisle seats had no signage whereas in the past it was only window seats in use.

    That is because people are pulling them off and other move them around, come on you must know this.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    That is because people are pulling them off and other move them around, come on you must know this.

    Yeah but this bus had 3 or 4 rows of seats all blocked off. They were put on with adhesive no sign of vandalism. It should be every second row of seats blocked off on the upper deck but not the case on this bus.

    All those signs must be costing a fortune seems like a bit of a waste of money now at this stage in the game. I think most people have been conditioned to keep 2m apart at this stage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭Midnight_EG


    GT89 wrote: »

    All those signs must be costing a fortune seems like a bit of a waste of money now at this stage in the game. I think most people have been conditioned to keep 2m apart at this stage.

    LOL, no they haven't... Take away the signage and we'll have 90 people on top of each other no problem within 3 days


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    LOL, no they haven't... Take away the signage and we'll have 90 people on top of each other no problem within 3 days

    No signage on buses in London just a limit of 30 people per double decker. Actually saw a DB bus with no signage at all there about a week ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭p_haugh


    Had to get a bus yesterday and got a Donnybrook VT on the 145, noticed it still had the seats marked off as if for 50% capacity


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    Good news! Scientists in the UK have basically confirmed what I have thought for months that public transport is not a risky place for cv19 transmission says a lot about our fear mongering government advising people not to use it and reducing passenger limits to near to the point of making buses useless.
    Research carried out by the RSSB (formerly Rail Safety and Standard Board) in July, found the chances of catching the virus on a train as 1 in 11,000.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-54793554

    And that's on a train where the driver does not have the ability to drive past people at stops when the vehicle is 80% empty.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    What is it with absolute dicks giving us grief because they don't pay or want to pay a tiny miniscule fare....

    Essential travel me hoop.....

    Feel terribly bad having to leave genuine workers behind when carrying many that shouldn't be taking up that space.


    Gubernment needs to get real and serious about this


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    GT89 wrote: »
    Good news! Scientists in the UK have basically confirmed what I have thought for months that public transport is not a risky place for cv19 transmission says a lot about our fear mongering government advising people not to use it and reducing passenger limits to near to the point of making buses useless.


    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-54793554

    And that's on a train where the driver does not have the ability to drive past people at stops when the vehicle is 80% empty.

    If you go honestly think PT is safe then you really need to see someone.

    The dirt of some and coughing and sneezing and spitting etc.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    If you go honestly think PT is safe then you really need to see someone.

    The dirt of some and coughing and sneezing and spitting etc.

    So explain why the swabs say otherwise?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    GT89 wrote: »
    So explain why the swabs say otherwise?

    Its the same crap about schools are safe and the kids are so good wearing masks and staying 6 feet apart... Far from it when outside the gates and at bus stops, shops, parks, on buses or trains etc etc...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    Its the same crap about schools are safe and the kids are so good wearing masks and staying 6 feet apart... Far from it when outside the gates and at bus stops, shops, parks, on buses or trains etc etc...

    So are you saying the problem is more at the stop than on board?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    GT89 wrote: »
    So are you saying the problem is more at the stop than on board?

    Both...

    As soon as they're on masks are off, on top of eachother, no respect in many cases etc etc....

    Not all bad either, wouldn't be fair to say that.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    Both...

    As soon as they're on masks are off, on top of eachother, no respect in many cases etc etc....

    Not all bad either, wouldn't be fair to say that.

    Rowdy school children on buses is hardly a new phenomenon it's human nature not to want to wear a mask and for younger people to want to congregate in groups.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,440 ✭✭✭StreetLight


    GT89 wrote: »
    Rowdy school children on buses is hardly a new phenomenon it's human nature not to want to wear a mask and for younger people to want to congregate in groups.

    But Covid19 is a new phenomenon and we are all being asked to change our behaviour, schoolgoers included.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    But Covid19 is a new phenomenon and we are all being asked to change our behaviour, schoolgoers included.

    We're talking about children here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,440 ✭✭✭StreetLight


    GT89 wrote: »
    We're talking about children here

    Who should be aware of the current situation if their parents were doing their job responsibly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,057 ✭✭✭Vic_08


    GT89 wrote: »
    Good news! Scientists in the UK have basically confirmed what I have thought for months that public transport is not a risky place for cv19 transmission says a lot about our fear mongering government advising people not to use it and reducing passenger limits to near to the point of making buses useless.


    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-54793554

    And that's on a train where the driver does not have the ability to drive past people at stops when the vehicle is 80% empty.

    No surprise that you have selectively picked the parts of that report that fit your agenda.

    The last line of it:
    However, the RSSB has said that as the infection rate has increased in he last couple of months, the assumptions used to make this calculation will be different, with an overall increased risk.

    The report was made at the low point of infection in Britain, it is entirely possible that no c19 positive persons had been present in the timeframe to pass on the virus.

    Public transport is no more or less special than any other place where close contact with other people occurs, mouth, nose or eye contact with vaporised droplets from infected persons will infect.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    I'd class pt as high risk as there are all sorts using it and many with serious issues and cleaning themselves is one of them.... Absolute dirt birds coughing and sneezing into the air too....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    From my experience this week most drivers are ignoring the 10/17 passenger restrictions. Thank God. Fair play to them. Buses aren't being overloaded, but everyone is getting home.


  • Registered Users Posts: 243 ✭✭Kyleboy


    From my experience this week most drivers are ignoring the 10/17 passenger restrictions. Thank God. Fair play to them. Buses aren't being overloaded, but everyone is getting home.

    If this is the case why are you saying bus drivers are brain dead?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 455 ✭✭Tickityboo


    Kyleboy wrote: »
    If this is the case why are you saying bus drivers are brain dead?

    And idiots


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Tickityboo wrote: »
    And idiots

    Suppose takes one to know one ;-)


    Been called many things doesn't mean it's true....

    Today was very bad, leaving so many behind, the usual dirty looks, arms in the air, aggression etc....

    People seriously we don't get pleasure out of this, I say this for all and myself we didn't sign up to leave people.
    I fully appreciate people are trying to get to work, appointment or home etc.

    I had 20/21 onboard, emptied and filled again a few times, left a lot behind too.

    Haven't been on twitter etc but I do hope this is been put out there so that people stop taking it out on us, we are trying our best.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,440 ✭✭✭StreetLight


    From my experience this week most drivers are ignoring the 10/17 passenger restrictions. Thank God. Fair play to them. Buses aren't being overloaded, but everyone is getting home.

    Strange behaviour from a "farce of a company".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,094 ✭✭✭.anon.


    Weldoninhio - rather than obsessively hassling the (very) low-paid people who work in customer service for transport companies, day in, day out, try bearing in mind that they aren't your own personal punchbag. They have no power. Literally all they can do is pass on information - either to or from the customer. And if the customer's attitude stinks as badly as yours clearly does, they should refuse to engage.

    I wouldn't be surprised at all if drivers have identified you from your tweets and are deliberately driving past you because of how you speak to their colleagues.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    Suppose takes one to know one ;-)


    Been called many things doesn't mean it's true....

    Today was very bad, leaving so many behind, the usual dirty looks, arms in the air, aggression etc....

    People seriously we don't get pleasure out of this, I say this for all and myself we didn't sign up to leave people.
    I fully appreciate people are trying to get to work, appointment or home etc.

    I had 20/21 onboard, emptied and filled again a few times, left a lot behind too.

    Haven't been on twitter etc but I do hope this is been put out there so that people stop taking it out on us, we are trying our best.

    I can't speak for others but I can understand that drivers are just following the guidelines they have been set out. My anger lies completely and totally with the government for setting out these riddiculous guidelines. Though there are a few dickhead bus drivers out there but they exist in all walks of life. People should direct their anger towards the NTA, Eamonn Ryan, Anne Graham, Michael Martin, Stephen Donnelly and Tony Holohan next time their left stranded not Dublin Bus, GAI or BE and certainly not induvidual drivers.

    For example I was on a bus back in the summer two people who were clearly a couple sat together. The bus driver stopped the bus got out of the cab and came upstairs and told them in a very rude manner they had to sit in seats without signage when the person explained they both lived together he told them it dosen't matter. I thought this approach was completely ott and I thought that it was lucky the two were not the type who would have verbally abused or assaulted. That being said if they were two junkies he probably would have kept his mouth shut. But generally this type of driver seem to be in a minority. I travelled with my mam on another ocassion and sat together and nothing was said.

    Having buses limited to 17 passengers with the schools open is quite frankly the definition of insanity. Yet there is basically zero restriction on numbers on the Luas which just makes a mockery of the whole thing as if covid spread more on the bus than it did on the Luas, Dart seems fairly dead mind you apart from school kids.

    I think it would be useful if the app and RTPI signs could display if the bus could show if a bus was full. Perhaps it could be something that could be introduced with bus connects even before covid ahen i used the bus at peak times I used to find it very frustrating when you'd stick your hand out and the bus would sail past.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    So my bus today had a full bus.

    I got off the bus early after the second time someone asked me to move my bag so they bag so they could sit next to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    So my bus today had a full bus.

    I got off the bus early after the second time someone asked me to move my bag so they bag so they could sit next to me.

    I don't understand? Why would you get off?
    Leave your bag there and don't allow them to sit beside you. It's up to each individual to look out for themselves.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    I don't understand? Why would you get off?
    Leave your bag there and don't allow them to sit beside you. It's up to each individual to look out for themselves.

    I had to get off a few times during the first lockdown. It's one thing letting 50% of people onto the bus so everyone can sit alone, but packing it so people are on top of you is not safe. Poster could be working with vulnerable people, in a hospital or school. Bus providers have a duty of care to their passengers too.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    I had to get off a few times during the first lockdown. It's one thing letting 50% of people onto the bus so everyone can sit alone, but packing it so people are on top of you is not safe. Poster could be working with vulnerable people, in a hospital or school. Bus providers have a duty of care to their passengers too.

    What are you on about?

    You aren't the poster.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    What are you on about?

    You aren't the poster.....

    Were you under the impression that this was a private messaging service? You asked why would someone get off. I explained why. Now mine is just my example, but I’d be pretty sure it is the reason the OP in this case got off too. There is a DM service if you’d prefer to speak to that poster directly too though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,542 ✭✭✭dublinman1990


    Gardaí in Kevin Street have put out a public appeal to identify anti-mask protestors on the Luas who were not wearing face coverings & taking part in anti-social behaviour while going on a journey from Heuston Station to Jervis St. 98FM have reported that the incident had taken place on the 2nd of November with it being widely shared on social media. The individuals involved boarded the tram at Heuston Station at 4:30pm. They were taking part in anti-social & offensive behaviour towards other passengers by asking them to remove their face coverings. Transdev has said via the Luas Twitter account that they have passed on high quality CCTV footage to Gardaí to try & prosecute the individuals.

    https://www.98fm.com/news/gardai-appeal-for-witnesses-to-luas-anti-mask-incident-to-contact-them-1107861


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,920 ✭✭✭dashcamdanny


    Gardaí in Kevin Street have put out a public appeal to identify anti-mask protestors on the Luas who were not wearing face coverings & taking part in anti-social behaviour while going on a journey from Heuston Station to Jervis St. 98FM have reported that the incident had taken place on the 2nd of November with it being widely shared on social media. The individuals involved boarded the tram at Heuston Station at 4:30pm. They were taking part in anti-social & offensive behaviour towards other passengers by asking them to remove their face coverings. Transdev has said via the Luas Twitter account that they have passed on high quality CCTV footage to Gardaí to try & prosecute the individuals.

    https://www.98fm.com/news/gardai-appeal-for-witnesses-to-luas-anti-mask-incident-to-contact-them-1107861


    Is it not odd that they really dont care about the bus system?

    .. Garda really have zero interest in enforcing it at check points.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,588 ✭✭✭john boye


    Saw a couple of DB SGs earlier with sanitiser dispensers around the centre doors.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 382 ✭✭oldtimeyfella


    Just to throw in my two cents as a frontline public transport worker I have to say that people pretty much ignored the restrictions this time around.

    Week days were quiet enough because you didn't get the day trippers for shopping because nothing was open but weekends are actually fairly busy with people "just heading off for the day for a change of scenery" or rather obviously making their way to various houseparties/meet ups.

    The Gardaí helped us out a bit and were visible fairly often during the first lockdown, their superintendent even came up and had a chat with us, but they just didn't bother during this second one.

    In fact, one of my colleagues got a dressing down from one of the Gardaí after he phoned them about a bunch of scaldies that were causing mayhem on his vehicle by not wearing masks and deliberately breaking social distancing rules with other members of the public. He pretty much got told that it wasn't his place to enforce the rules and that he was wasting Garda resources by making the call.

    Management and unions have been pretty much invisible/dismal during the entire thing. Absolutely no guidance issued by either and anything regarding covid regulations issued by the company is copied and pasted from the HSE guidelines. No practical advice on how we are to carry out our work. We didn't get hand sanitisation stations for either the public or staff until the end of May. Masks weren't provided until September and they are complete rubbish, they are supposed to be washable but they fall apart fairly quickly and I even got a couple that the ear elastic broke on the first time I put them on.

    Most management has been working from home since March and it really shows. They neither know nor care about what is going on on the ground.

    EDIT: added some stuff


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,542 ✭✭✭dublinman1990


    ^^^^^^^

    Do you think the increase in capacity to 50% is going to make your job much harder to manage in the run up to Christmas?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 382 ✭✭oldtimeyfella


    ^^^^^^^

    Do you think the increase in capacity to 50% is going to make your job much harder to manage in the run up to Christmas?


    Honestly, i dislike the Christmas period in work on a normal year. So much antisocial behaviour. People act like animals around this time of year at the best of times.


    This year is going to be off the charts. 50% capacity is going to mean nothing, it'll be a free-for-all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭Midnight_EG


    50% capacity allows us to be a lot more lenient, thank jaysus


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,920 ✭✭✭dashcamdanny


    Honestly, i dislike the Christmas period in work on a normal year. So much antisocial behaviour. People act like animals around this time of year at the best of times.


    This year is going to be off the charts. 50% capacity is going to mean nothing, it'll be a free-for-all.

    On the other hand, if you drive up to a bunch of idiots, you can put up your hands and shout BUS FULL .

    Plenty of scobbys and drunks have been walking home for the last few months.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 333 ✭✭TK Lemon


    Are Dublin Bus or Go Ahead going back to 50% capacity tomorrow? Anyone know?


  • Registered Users Posts: 234 ✭✭ax586


    TK Lemon wrote: »
    Are Dublin Bus or Go Ahead going back to 50% capacity tomorrow? Anyone know?

    They are indeed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    TK Lemon wrote: »
    Are Dublin Bus or Go Ahead going back to 50% capacity tomorrow? Anyone know?

    31 on sg
    33 on VG

    A notice was posted again that any person on board including a baby is classed as a number on board.

    Best of luck to all getting on as it's going to be nuts.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    31 on sg
    33 on VG

    A notice was posted again that any person on board including a baby is classed as a number on board.

    Best of luck to all getting on as it's going to be nuts.

    Thought they were allowing 6 standees on an SG last time they were at 50% capacity. Has this been done away with now? Also are drivers who go over capacity getting in trouble?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    Pre booking mandatory on all Irish Rail intercity trains between 18th December and 6th January.
    https://www.irishrail.ie/en-ie/news/pre-booking-mandatory-for-travel-on-intercity-rail


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