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Your Motorhome / Conversion, VRT and You.

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  • #252
    air
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,830 ✭✭✭air


    It's calculated on the value of the converted camper.


  • #253
    autumnalcore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 838 ✭✭✭autumnalcore


    kayleg wrote: »
    E.g. thinking of buying something similar to a 2006 nissan primstar which is for sale privately for 1200euro

    Do a basic conversion for the VRT you can be adding the bells and whistles after o have paid the VRT. I'd expect to pay about 700-1000 VRT on a 2006 primastar with basic conversion.


  • #254
    kayleg
    Registered Users Posts: 6 ✭kayleg


    autumnalcore wrote: »
    Do a basic conversion for the VRT you can be adding the bells and whistles after o have paid the VRT. I'd expect to pay about 700-1000 VRT on a 2006 primastar with basic conversion.

    That's something to definitely think about, I could work with that and just do the basic requirements Thanks very much for the input!


  • #255
    hometruths
    Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,162 ✭✭✭hometruths


    Hi, wondering about vrt timescales on an imported motorhome from UK.

    I understand I have to make appointment with NCT centre for inspection, and then Revenue will contact me in due course with their value and VRT payable calculation.

    What sort of timescale can I expect from inspection to deadline for payment of VRT?


  • #256
    B.I.O.Y.H.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 ✭B.I.O.Y.H.


    If you haven't the VRT paid within one month of the vehicle arriving into the country, they fine you and increase the amount of VRT payable.

    Once you have the NCT part done, it'll be about a week until they give you a made up figure, plucked from the sky on how much is owed.


  • #257
    wunderbar
    Registered Users Posts: 8 ✭wunderbar


    Has anyone converted a caravelle minibus?
    I'm looking at one which is currently registered as an SPSV and trying to figure out if I will get stung for VRT when I try to register it as a camper. It's driver plus 8 passengers if that makes a difference.


  • #258
    eoghanl83
    Registered Users Posts: 3 ✭eoghanl83


    StupidLikeAFox wrote: »
    Lucky for you I can answer this question for you by now.

    The process I followed is as follows.
    • Get the van changed over from a revenue perspective as I mentioned above.
    • Bring the VRT receipt and the engineers report (same documentation as I sent to Revenue) to the DOE centre. They were happy enough to test it as a camper with this.
    • The insurance can be sorted once the DOE is passed (they will ask for a declaration). I would be comfortable driving the van at this stage. If you have the documentation to show its been changed over recently it is likely a guard will be reasonable with you.
    • Take the DOE cert and VRT receipt to the tax office.
    • After about half an hour, the involvement of 4 different staff members and much flicking through manuals in the tax office they figured out how to change it from a commercial vehicle to a camper and gave me the tax disc.

    Hope that helps!


    I'm nearly there converting a van and trying to figure out how long it will take to get on the road. The van has a current DOE and tax disc up to December.

    I got in touch with Stuarts for insurance and they will look for;

    Copy of the log book - does this have to be the log book showing the van as a camper (basically after going through all the VRT with Revenue) or would they be ok with a copy of the current log book?


    DOE - same thing, would the current DOE be ok to submit or do I need the DOE after doing the conversion?


    Thanks in advance!


  • #259
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    eoghanl83 wrote: »
    I'm nearly there converting a van and trying to figure out how long it will take to get on the road. The van has a current DOE and tax disc up to December.

    I got in touch with Stuarts for insurance and they will look for;

    Copy of the log book - does this have to be the log book showing the van as a camper (basically after going through all the VRT with Revenue) or would they be ok with a copy of the current log book?


    DOE - same thing, would the current DOE be ok to submit or do I need the DOE after doing the conversion?


    Thanks in advance!

    I'm at the moment waiting for my VRT valuation. The current waiting time is between 6 to 8 weeks. Sent the application mid-April so could be soon enough.

    This offical site has all the information you need including the VRT form that has to be signed by a SQI.

    Stuarts wouldn't insure my base van when under construction so went with the motorcaravanclub.com instead who arranged me insurance policy. The DOE (=CVRT) is not directly relevant for the process, the SQI inspection is. But in your case your van is still tested for some months so you'll have time to get the ball rolling before the next test is due.

    I would definitely recommend the motorcaravanclub route as they were able help me with the process. Things used to be easier and cheaper when I converted my last van in 2008 but I got the impression there has been lots of milking the system and the safety of some of the conversions used to be questionable so strict rules were put in place.


  • #260
    eoghanl83
    Registered Users Posts: 3 ✭eoghanl83


    Yea it was the same for me - couldn't get insurance while the van was under construction.

    I was onto Stuarts and explained the long wait time with Revenue and the VRT. They said that while waiting on the VRT I could get fully comp insurance for 10 days and after that it reduces to fire and theft only. Once I get the VRT docs and new log book in hand, send them into Stuarts and cover goes back to fully comp.


  • #261
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Got my valuation letter this morning stating that I owe the Revenue Commissoners a sum of money. A quite basic 141 Sprinter conversion was valued at 22000. As said early in the thread it's 13.3% of the OMSP - 200 I paid when importing the base van which was very close to what I was expecting. I sent a detailed bill of all the materials and the base van purchase price with my application and it hasn't got any heating, hot water or bathroom, just what is legally required.

    A bank draft on now the way to Athy. After that I take I'll hear from the office again with a receipt of the payment after which I can hopefully tax the van as MTRCVAN. And then it's just happy travels. Oh yes, have to also inform the insurance company that the van has been classified as a motorcaravan when the paperwork arrives hopefully next week.


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  • #262
    spaceHopper
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,028 ✭✭✭spaceHopper


    samih wrote: »
    Got my valuation letter this morning stating that I owe the Revenue Commissoners a sum of money. A quite basic 141 Sprinter conversion was valued at 22000. As said early in the thread it's 13.3% of the OMSP - 200 I paid when importing the base van which was very close to what I was expecting. I sent a detailed bill of all the materials and the base van purchase price with my application and it hasn't got any heating, hot water or bathroom, just what is legally required.

    A bank draft on now the way to Athy. After that I take I'll hear from the office again with a receipt of the payment after which I can hopefully tax the van as MTRCVAN. And then it's just happy travels. Oh yes, have to also inform the insurance company that the van has been classified as a motorcaravan when the paperwork arrives hopefully next week.

    You can appeal and it's often successful


  • #263
    eoghanl83
    Registered Users Posts: 3 ✭eoghanl83


    Looking at the Revenue documents and also Stuarts insurance checklist.

    Revenue requires the SQI declaration of conversion and Stuarts look for the Engineers Report.

    Are these the same thing?


  • #264
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    eoghanl83 wrote: »
    Looking at the Revenue documents and also Stuarts insurance checklist.

    Revenue requires the SQI declaration of conversion and Stuarts look for the Engineers Report.

    Are these the same thing?

    I would say so as the engineers report was the old name for the SQI predecessor. Do Stuarts not accept a CVRT pass? Although if it's a new conversion you'll need to get the SQI done anyway. The revenue will eventually send back a copy of the original report they used for the VRT valuation so you can reuse that I'd imagine.

    Our Sprinter is now reclassified as M1 (SA) and taxed for the year. Time to hit the road. Now just need some good weather.


  • #265
    CJhaughey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,907 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    samih wrote: »
    I would say so as the engineers report was the old name for the SQI predecessor. Do Stuarts not accept a CVRT pass? Although if it's a new conversion you'll need to get the SQI done anyway. The revenue will eventually send back a copy of the original report they used for the VRT valuation so you can reuse that I'd imagine.

    Our Sprinter is now reclassified as M1 (SA) and taxed for the year. Time to hit the road. Now just need some good weather.

    Hit the road anyway, getting good weather is a bonus. You'd be dealing with bad weather at home so why not use the vehicle and get some use out of it:)
    Its also handy to keep the first few runs short in case anything crops up that needs attention.


  • #266
    bluelamp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 255 ✭✭bluelamp


    Getting some great info on these threads - thanks to all of you!

    The amount of conflicting / out of date information out there on van conversions is causing me some confusion though. I'm hoping to convert a van over the winter, something along the lines of a T4 / Caravelle.

    All I'm worried about is completing the conversion - and having difficulty insuring it.

    I won't be botching it - it would have the required windows / cooking / sleeping facilities done to a high standard, I'm happy to spend a bit of money on this. I also have a main vehicle insured.

    Would it be safe to assume that a T4 converted to a high standard would be insurable? (I guess it would have to be through one of the clubs due to <1.8m height?)


  • #267
    autumnalcore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 838 ✭✭✭autumnalcore


    bluelamp wrote: »
    Getting some great info on these threads - thanks to all of you!

    The amount of conflicting / out of date information out there on van conversions is causing me some confusion though. I'm hoping to convert a van over the winter, something along the lines of a T4 / Caravelle.

    All I'm worried about is completing the conversion - and having difficulty insuring it.

    I won't be botching it - it would have the required windows / cooking / sleeping facilities done to a high standard, I'm happy to spend a bit of money on this. I also have a main vehicle insured.

    Would it be safe to assume that a T4 converted to a high standard would be insurable? (I guess it would have to be through one of the clubs due to <1.8m height?)

    Through the clubs and Rosslare may try to fob you off saying 1.8m is still a requirement for VRT.


  • #268
    jamesbil
    Registered Users Posts: 662 ✭✭✭jamesbil


    bluelamp wrote: »
    Getting some great info on these threads - thanks to all of you!

    The amount of conflicting / out of date information out there on van conversions is causing me some confusion though. I'm hoping to convert a van over the winter, something along the lines of a T4 / Caravelle.

    All I'm worried about is completing the conversion - and having difficulty insuring it.

    I won't be botching it - it would have the required windows / cooking / sleeping facilities done to a high standard, I'm happy to spend a bit of money on this. I also have a main vehicle insured.

    Would it be safe to assume that a T4 converted to a high standard would be insurable? (I guess it would have to be through one of the clubs due to <1.8m height?)
    Best bet is to get in touch with a good auto engineer. You will need one to sign it all off.


  • #269
    bluelamp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 255 ✭✭bluelamp


    jamesbil wrote: »
    Best bet is to get in touch with a good auto engineer. You will need one to sign it all off.

    Yes probably best having a chat before making solid plans.

    If any one has a recommendation of a decent auto engineer who would give me some advice (paid for obviously) I'd appreciate it. Dublin / Wicklow / Kildare area preferably so that I can deal with the same person start to finish.


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