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whisky_galore · 18-09-2020 1:39pm

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Famine was not kind to Ireland. The historian estimates are the population would be 15 million if it had not happened.

How were all these millions supposed to have been fed, clothed and employed?

blinding · 18-09-2020 1:41pm

whisky_galore wrote: »

How were all these millions supposed to have been fed, clothed and employed?

How were populations increased in other countries that the British were not wilfully starving People in ? ?

Cheerful Spring2 · 18-09-2020 1:44pm

whisky_galore wrote: »

How were all these millions supposed to have been fed, clothed and employed?

I think point made here is most of the Irish catholic emigration occurred during the Potato famine. The people just didn't decide one day to leave in huge numbers, there was a reason behind it.

18-09-2020 3:03pm

The lockdown in Dublin didn't happen soon enough.

freshpopcorn · 18-09-2020 3:10pm

I’d like to see attractive people give the government briefing about Covid. I think people might pay more attention to them.

Antares35 · 18-09-2020 5:08pm

Quazzie wrote: »

I think I'll continue to what I deem to be polite and hold the door open for people. If a woman wants to see me as a misogynist for doing so, then that's her prerogative, and it's fine with me because it's exactly the type of person I would want to avoid so it will be a good warning system.

I'm a woman and I think it's nice when people (men or women) hold a door open. I'd hate to be the kind of person who volunteers for anger and indignation so easily. I agree with you, it's a nice thing to do. Not everything has to be a statement on sexism.

Antares35 · 18-09-2020 5:13pm

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Well, there has to be more to it than this it else everyone would hold the door for everyone and nobody would get though doors.

There's the practicality of which way the door opens, towards you or away from you. And who gets to the door first.

If a door opens away from you and you get there first then you probably walk through and hold it open for the people on the other side.

It's the ones who stand prostrate in the door which opens away from them and hold it open as people have to shuffle past them, that are cringe.

And yeah, you'll find plenty of men who think it's correct to hold a door for women because they're women and offer a seat to a woman because she's a woman. They'll tell you it's the manners they were raised with and they won't (or can't) change. That's just a mostly benign misogyny. Manners change over time so it's grand.

Is it not exhausting to undertake all the mental gymnastics you've outlined above to make a simple decision whether to hold a door for someone or not? I couldn't live like that, I'd be worn out by lunchtime.

IAMAMORON · 18-09-2020 5:18pm

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

I think point made here is most of the Irish catholic emigration occurred during the Potato famine. The people just didn't decide one day to leave in huge numbers, there was a reason behind it.

More chrap, really clueless.

If the global population was circa 1 - 1,2 billion in 1896 ( 40 odd years after the end of the great famine), how come it has multiplied to 8 billion now?

https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/world-population-by-year/

So if the population of the 32 counties was circa 5 million then, how come it isn't 35 million now? Condom nonsense aside. Actually do me a favour please, I fancy a laugh today, can you just reply and say it was something or other, just make something like you always do?

ohnonotgmail · 18-09-2020 5:25pm

IAMAMORON wrote: »

More chrap, really clueless.

If the global population was circa 1 - 1,2 billion in 1896 ( 40 odd years after the end of the great famine), how come it has multiplied to 8 billion now?

https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/world-population-by-year/

So if the population of the 32 counties was circa 5 million then, how come it isn't 35 million now? Condom nonsense aside. Actually do me a favour please, I fancy a laugh today, can you just reply and say it was something or other, just make something like you always do?

we have had continued high emigration since the famine with the exception of the 2 world wars. you also have to remember that the majority of those emigrating are those of child rearing age. It is very hard for the population to grow when the young people leave

blinding · 18-09-2020 6:12pm

Antares35 wrote: »

I'm a woman and I think it's nice when people (men or women) hold a door open. I'd hate to be the kind of person who volunteers for anger and indignation so easily. I agree with you, it's a nice thing to do. Not everything has to be a statement on sexism.

Why not attractive naked people having sex ! !

freshpopcorn · 19-09-2020 1:40am

Regarding holding doors open.
When I was about 16 I was at a wedding. I held the door open for one or two people.
Then I was to shy to leave it go so I got stuck there for about twenty minutes. Everybody kept on going in and out.

El_Duderino 09 · 19-09-2020 10:26am

Antares35 wrote: »

I'm a woman and I think it's nice when people (men or women) hold a door open. I'd hate to be the kind of person who volunteers for anger and indignation so easily. I agree with you, it's a nice thing to do. Not everything has to be a statement on sexism.

Yeah but we're back to changing opening doors for women specifically because they're women to holding doors for people because it's sensible and polite.

I doubt a significant number of people would get cross about someone holding a door when it's just the sensible thing to do.

El_Duderino 09 · 19-09-2020 10:35am

Antares35 wrote: »

Is it not exhausting to undertake all the mental gymnastics you've outlined above to make a simple decision whether to hold a door for someone or not? I couldn't live like that, I'd be worn out by lunchtime.

It's not difficult thinking at all. You do it all the time or how else would you know whether to hold the door open or not? I'll bet you've just never explicitly thought it through before.

Do you know the scene I'm describing? Where the person is standing prostrate with their back to the door, holding it open so people can walk through first?

Munstergirl854 · 19-09-2020 12:00pm

In regards to Population....

The reproduction rate in Ireland up to the 1980's was staggering. Rife poverty,no contraception and families of 12 or 15 children was not unheard of.
Surely if that rate of reproduction did not occur, the population today would be significantly smaller?

McGinniesta · 19-09-2020 1:36pm

Kneeling before a premier league game does nothing to eradicate racism.

NIMAN · 19-09-2020 1:44pm

If you think that person who threw a milkshake over Leo yesterday was right to do so, you are a tit of the highest order.

McGinniesta · 19-09-2020 1:48pm

NIMAN wrote: »

If you think that person who threw a milkshake over Leo yesterday was right to do so, you are a tit of the highest order.

In addition, whatever their problem was will not be addressed by doing so.

kowloonkev · 19-09-2020 1:48pm

McGinniesta wrote: »

Kneeling before a premier league game does nothing to eradicate racism.

It probably fuels it if anything. Makes me want to vomit.

McGinniesta · 19-09-2020 1:54pm

kowloonkev wrote: »

It probably fuels it if anything. Makes me want to vomit.

A far better starting point would be looking into the stands sometimes.

I lived in England for a number of years and held a season ticket at a premier league club. I went to hundreds of games and I had very little if any experience of racism in stadia. You'd be a fool to believe that it doesnt exist in football stadia but I wonder what the actual levels of it are.

It certainly exists abroad and we have seen clear examples of that.

Whether or not it exists in the professional game itself in terms of recruitment or outlook I cant say but with number of foreign players in the game it's not easy to see how.

Gervais08 · 19-09-2020 2:01pm

McGinniesta wrote: »

Kneeling before a premier league game does nothing to eradicate racism.

I said the and was told to educate myself and that I was a white woman and had no idea.

I still have no idea how a pointless, token and very much forced gesture can solve any societal issue.

IAMAMORON · 19-09-2020 2:02pm

freshpopcorn wrote: »

Regarding holding doors open.
When I was about 16 I was at a wedding. I held the door open for one or two people.
Then I was to shy to leave it go so I got stuck there for about twenty minutes. Everybody kept on going in and out.

That is daylight abuse, you can get counselling for that.

Never dress like a concierge to a wedding either, live a little.

McGinniesta · 19-09-2020 2:09pm

Gervais08 wrote: »

I said the and was told to educate myself and that I was a white woman and had no idea.

I still have no idea how a pointless, token and very much forced gesture can solve any societal issue.

It doesn't. It does nothing to tackle the problem in any meaningful fashion.

Besides, racism is a societal problem and should be treated as such. People will behave in football grounds the same way that they behave outside of them.

McGinniesta · 19-09-2020 2:16pm

An unpopular question.

What will happen next if the restrictions in Dublin fail to work as anticipated?

IAMAMORON · 19-09-2020 2:22pm

McGinniesta wrote: »

An unpopular question.

What will happen next if the restrictions in Dublin fail to work as anticipated?

The Zombie Apocalypse of course.

Looking forward to taking dead aim at George Lee's Zombie head myself, ( and Claire Byrnes ).

My Blunderbus is loaded.

gormdubhgorm · 19-09-2020 2:25pm

McGinniesta wrote: »

An unpopular question.

What will happen next if the restrictions in Dublin fail to work as anticipated?

Send any culchies living in Dublin to Spike Island.

Ubbquittious · 19-09-2020 3:19pm

Android operating system is a ferocious croc of sh1t. It's the Windows XP of it's day.

Nearly 100% of the apps in the app store contain ads or spyware, the games are all pay to win, pay to play, in app purchases or just plain pay. A lot of the so-called open source apps are modified versions of the original with bundled spyware and adware. Even if you install no apps the Almighty GOOG is still spying on you through Google Play Services, location services and various other things. Although the operating system itself doesn't cost anything the Almighty GOOG does all it can to hoik you in permanently and make you nice and dependent on their services.

The bluetooth functionality and USB connectivity appear to have been deliberately crippled over the years to make sure you use Google cloud services to transfer data instead.

If you are on 2G data nothing seems to work anymore because your little bitteen of bandwidth is presumably clogged up with apps phoning home with all the data they've been collecting on you.

The problem now is no new operating system can get a look in because of the app-gap, again similar to Windows back in the day. Which shouldn't be a problem really because all the apps are sh1te anyway. Only thing keeping me using it is the fact that nearly everyone uses whatsapp

McGinniesta · 19-09-2020 3:23pm

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

Send any culchies living in Dublin to Spike Island.

Controversial.

IAMAMORON · 19-09-2020 3:23pm

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

Send any culchies living in Dublin to Spike Island.

Thing is you wouldn't fit them. Make them swim over maybe?

Better off marching them straight into the Shannon, if they can swim over to the far side then they are quite obviously culchies ( or from Connaught ) and can then be shot on sight. It's about time we sorted out the problem with this country for once and for all.

McGinniesta · 19-09-2020 3:26pm

IAMAMORON wrote: »

Thing is you wouldn't fit them. Make them swim over maybe?

Better off marching them straight into the Shannon, if they can swim over to the far side then they are quite obviously culchies ( or from Connaught ) and can then be shot on sight. It's about time we sorted out the problem with this country for once and for all.

Sounds like the D-Day landings

ressem · 19-09-2020 3:28pm

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

I didn't say it was misogyny in relation to people in general (or holding a door when it's the practical thing to do), I gave an example of awkwardly holding the door for women because they're women...

Assuming that's what you meant then sure, do as you want. You'll probably povide the same service of marking yourself for young people watching you exhibit the very definition of virtue signalling.

Hmm, I stand with my arm outstretched holding a door, if someone male or female is approaching the door that looks burdened. E.g. trying to wheel a bicycle, cart; carrying a bag or 2, especially in the hand on the hinge side,

Or, if I think the alternative is a sidestep to avoid collision after going through the door. ( I think this is prone to accusations of misogyny)

Or if it's a heavy door, or a door behaving in an unexpected way (a sensor door but powered off) ,or there are wind gusts, or even just heavy rain.

I don't think my brain's capable of adding in the "avoid virtue signalling" calculus into that also. Or if I tried, I'd end up releasing the door in a delayed way that risks hitting their arm. Not worth the risk for 5 seconds of a wait, when I'll feel guilty about it for hours. So if it helps, I'm being selfishly self-protective.

And for the younger people, male and female that do the same for me, thanks.

IAMAMORON · 19-09-2020 3:28pm

McGinniesta wrote: »

Sounds like the D-Day landings

That was called target practice. ( Zielpraxis )

The Nazi infantry held lotteries in Paris to see who got to defend the beaches.

gormdubhgorm · 19-09-2020 3:29pm

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

Send any culchies living in Dublin to Spike Island.

McGinniesta wrote: »

Controversial.

IAMAMORON wrote: »

Thing is you wouldn't fit them. Make them swim over maybe?

Better off marching them straight into the Shannon, if they can swim over to the far side then they are quite obviously culchies ( or from Connaught ) and can then be shot on sight. It's about time we sorted out the problem with this country for once and for all.

I have two culchie parents and all. Swim will do them no harm - sure wouldn't that Shannon water kill any covid19!? I am not sure I would waste a bullet on them though (not economical)

IAMAMORON · 19-09-2020 3:31pm

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

I have two culchie parents and all. Swim will do them no harm - sure wouldn't that Shannon water kill any covid19!? I am not sure I would waste a bullet on them though (not economical)

You are technically a culchie also, be careful... we have ways of making you talk.

19-09-2020 4:04pm

Ubbquittious wrote: »

Android operating system is a ferocious croc of sh1t. It's the Windows XP of it's day.

Nearly 100% of the apps in the app store contain ads or spyware, the games are all pay to win, pay to play, in app purchases or just plain pay. A lot of the so-called open source apps are modified versions of the original with bundled spyware and adware. Even if you install no apps the Almighty GOOG is still spying on you through Google Play Services, location services and various other things. Although the operating system itself doesn't cost anything the Almighty GOOG does all it can to hoik you in permanently and make you nice and dependent on their services.

The bluetooth functionality and USB connectivity appear to have been deliberately crippled over the years to make sure you use Google cloud services to transfer data instead.

If you are on 2G data nothing seems to work anymore because your little bitteen of bandwidth is presumably clogged up with apps phoning home with all the data they've been collecting on you.

The problem now is no new operating system can get a look in because of the app-gap, again similar to Windows back in the day. Which shouldn't be a problem really because all the apps are sh1te anyway. Only thing keeping me using it is the fact that nearly everyone uses whatsapp

Sounds like you're just really bad at using Android.

El_Duderino 09 · 19-09-2020 4:13pm

ressem wrote: »

Hmm, I stand with my arm outstretched holding a door, if someone male or female is approaching the door that looks burdened....

So not doing it for women because they're women which would obviously be misogynistic.

Why do posters keep replying but keep switching this part from it?

Ubbquittious · 19-09-2020 4:35pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Sounds like you're just really bad at using Android.

Ah shur with a name like that I wouldn't expect anything other than a cheap dig from you

AllForIt · 19-09-2020 5:19pm

Ubbquittious wrote: »

Ah shur with a name like that I wouldn't expect anything other than a cheap dig from you

Oh how I laughed at that one.

You do have a point overall.

I'm a hobbyist android developer and I was recently working on a kernel for my fone to improve it. Guess what I found in the source code, explicit code that gives facebook app advanced 'privileges' which in layman's terms means the app will run in the background and not go into standby - when the phone is in standby. This is coded into the android system before you take it out of the box and before you even install facebook in the first place.

To me that's outrageous and I think there should be laws prohibiting that sort of thing.

Antares35 · 19-09-2020 5:35pm

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Yeah but we're back to changing opening doors for women specifically because they're women to holding doors for people because it's sensible and polite.

I doubt a significant number of people would get cross about someone holding a door when it's just the sensible thing to do.

But women are people

So if you hold a door for a woman because she's a person not because she's a woman, how will she differentiate that from holding the door for her because shes a woman? How will she know whether to be angry? Perhaps for the avoidance of doubt men should state why they are holding the door. If he states he is holding the door because she is a person, she can say thank you and walk through. If he says it's because she's a woman, she can become enraged and refuse to move until it slams in her face

To keep on topic, my unpopular opinion is that cake smashes for one year olds are a literal waste of money and a crass display of well wastefulness.

Junkyard Tom · 19-09-2020 5:48pm

The vast bulk of 1980's music was utterly terrible.

Justin Credible Darts · 19-09-2020 6:13pm

Gervais08 wrote: »

I said the and was told to educate myself and that I was a white woman and had no idea.

I still have no idea how a pointless, token and very much forced gesture can solve any societal issue.

I hope you pointed out to them the fact they brought your color and sex in to it made them racist and sexist.

that would have stumped them

El_Duderino 09 · 19-09-2020 6:25pm

Antares35 wrote: »

But women are people So if you hold a door for a woman because she's a person not because she's a woman,...

Yeah I'd support holding doors for peope when it's practical. Holding the door for others when it's practical (thus polite) isn't a problem anyone has raised.

whisky_galore · 20-09-2020 10:50am

McGinniesta wrote: »

Kneeling before a premier league game does nothing to eradicate racism.

It's easy for a bunch of pampered millionaires this side of the pond to do it.

Iscreamkone · 20-09-2020 4:07pm

Premier league players are worthy of their wages

Jimmy Twotimes · 20-09-2020 4:19pm

Antares35 wrote: »

Is it not exhausting to undertake all the mental gymnastics you've outlined above to make a simple decision whether to hold a door for someone or not? I couldn't live like that, I'd be worn out by lunchtime.

Lay off. The guy is obviously autistic.

McGinniesta · 20-09-2020 4:42pm

Iscreamkone wrote: »

Premier league players are worthy of their wages

Why? Half of them don't earn it for playing football.

Iscreamkone · 20-09-2020 6:45pm

McGinniesta wrote: »

Why? Half of them don't earn it for playing football.

They earn it for playing football and because they play football.

McGinniesta · 22-09-2020 12:07am

Iscreamkone wrote: »

They earn it for playing football and because they play football.

Some of them are shyte at playing football and therefore cannot justify their hefty salaries

freshpopcorn · 22-09-2020 1:51am

I think some people end up settling and getting married to somebody they don't find attractive or even have a connection with just so they can be seen as doing the done thing.

cms88 · 22-09-2020 10:00am

freshpopcorn wrote: »

I think some people end up settling and getting married to somebody they don't find attractive or even have a connection with just so they can be seen as doing the done thing.

Add to that many, not all, women do it have kids etc because that's what they want and once they have it they're gone.

colm_c · 22-09-2020 10:07am

AllForIt wrote: »

Oh how I laughed at that one.

You do have a point overall.

I'm a hobbyist android developer and I was recently working on a kernel for my fone to improve it. Guess what I found in the source code, explicit code that gives facebook app advanced 'privileges' which in layman's terms means the app will run in the background and not go into standby - when the phone is in standby. This is coded into the android system before you take it out of the box and before you even install facebook in the first place.

To me that's outrageous and I think there should be laws prohibiting that sort of thing.

Sounds like total BS to me.

Go on show us the code?

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