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Principal Officer competition 2019

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    #662
    Regularreggie
    Registered Users Posts: 18 ✭Regularreggie


    Contacted PAS. They expect to send out invites etc early next week with the panel to end in October.


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    #663
    bluegreenred
    Registered Users Posts: 18 ✭bluegreenred


    Thanks very much for the update! If the panel is up to October then I guess at least a new competition would be announced in March/April.


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    #664
    VillageIdiot71
    Registered Users Posts: 578 ✭✭✭VillageIdiot71


    VillageIdiot71 wrote: »
    Just to say, got a reply from PAS today that suggests they've reached number 52 for Dublin appointments on the current panel.

    I'd guess that's it for 2020......
    Belated Happy New Year.

    I believe the panel is now at 55.


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    #665
    everycloud
    Registered Users Posts: 23 ✭everycloud


    In case not seen, an interdepartmental competition for appointment to PO Higher (Departments of the Taoiseach, Finance and Public Expenditure and Reform) has been published on publicjobs.ie today.

    The top 60 in Batch 1 of this competition are eligible to apply. Best of luck to those who can!


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    #666
    Regularreggie
    Registered Users Posts: 18 ✭Regularreggie


    Did anyone hear about interviews dates from PO batch 2? Am higher up on the list so not sure if I will be called and therefore know when invites are sent out.


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    #667
    froggiegirls
    Registered Users Posts: 77 ✭✭froggiegirls


    I messaged them yesterday and they said they would contact the candidates called to the next stage in a few days . I’m no.21 so hoping to be called but I have no idea (and they didn’t say) how many they are planning to call
    Regularreggie wrote: »
    Did anyone hear about interviews dates from PO batch 2? Am higher up on the list so not sure if I will be called and therefore know when invites are sent out.


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    #668
    mossy74
    Registered Users Posts: 24 ✭mossy74


    Does anyone know how long more this panel will remain in place? The existing Dublin panel is likely to be consumed soon and I'm assuming this is why more people have been called to interview but what about those people waiting for regional positions? How much longer is the panel likely to remain in place before a full new competition is run? Thanks.


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    #669
    Jessibelle
    Registered Users Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭Jessibelle


    mossy74 wrote: »
    Does anyone know how long more this panel will remain in place? The existing Dublin panel is likely to be consumed soon and I'm assuming this is why more people have been called to interview but what about those people waiting for regional positions? How much longer is the panel likely to remain in place before a full new competition is run? Thanks.

    A colleague hopeful of being on a second panel told me any existing PO panels from this competition will lapse in October. Whether there's a new competition after that is contingent on demand, the budget etc.


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    #670
    Grey AP
    Registered Users Posts: 138 ✭✭Grey AP


    Jessibelle wrote: »
    A colleague hopeful of being on a second panel told me any existing PO panels from this competition will lapse in October. Whether there's a new competition after that is contingent on demand, the budget etc.

    This comp (the 2019 PO competition) is due to run until February 2022. As the first panel from it will finish in about March, PAS is getting a second panel to get through to 2022. (This is not uncommon at AP or HEO, but it is very unusual to have a second PO panel from one comp.)

    What usually happens is that PAS will start a new competition in September/October, in order to have a new panel ready to go when this competition ends in February, so if you get on the second panel from this comp you can probably expect it to last until February, unless it is exhausted before that. If that happens, though, I think a third panel would be very unlikely under this timeline.

    Fingers crossed for everyone going into interviews. Getting PO is a very difficult step, so no matter what happens you've excelled to get to this point.


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    #671
    Jessibelle
    Registered Users Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭Jessibelle


    Grey AP wrote: »
    This comp (the 2019 PO competition) is due to run until February 2022. As the first panel from it will finish in about March, PAS is getting a second panel to get through to 2022. (This is not uncommon at AP or HEO, but it is very unusual to have a second PO panel from one comp.)

    What usually happens is that PAS will start a new competition in September/October, in order to have a new panel ready to go when this competition ends in February, so if you get on the second panel from this comp you can probably expect it to last until February, unless it is exhausted before that. If that happens, though, I think a third panel would be very unlikely under this timeline.

    Fingers crossed for everyone going into interviews. Getting PO is a very difficult step, so no matter what happens you've excelled to get to this point.

    Thanks for clarifying ☺️


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    #672
    froggiegirls
    Registered Users Posts: 77 ✭✭froggiegirls


    Just got a message from pas giving date of interview. This will be the third stage and of you are successful at that interview you go through to the fourth stage which is a presentation. I assume that must be the last stage ??!!


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    #673
    Ravelleman
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 3,635 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ravelleman


    froggiegirls wrote: »
    Just got a message from pas giving date of interview. This will be the third stage and of you are successful at that interview you go through to the fourth stage which is a presentation. I assume that must be the last stage ??!!

    Seems like a resource-intensive approach. Not in the competition myself - any indication of what format the presentation will take?


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    #674
    froggiegirls
    Registered Users Posts: 77 ✭✭froggiegirls


    I did the PO in chapter house a few years ago and at that stage you did both on the same day . So essentially you were given a pack of info relating to a problem and asked to do a presentation on what you would do if You were the po in that area
    Ravelleman wrote: »
    Seems like a resource-intensive approach. Not in the competition myself - any indication of what format the presentation will take?


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    #675
    Regularreggie
    Registered Users Posts: 18 ✭Regularreggie


    Didnt get message. Am in the 90s. did they say how many they called for the interview?


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    #676
    froggiegirls
    Registered Users Posts: 77 ✭✭froggiegirls


    No they didn’t say . I was number 21

    Regularreggie wrote: »
    Didnt get message. Am in the 90s. did they say how many they called for the interview?


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    #677
    Bowiegal
    Registered Users Posts: 51 ✭✭Bowiegal


    froggiegirls wrote: »
    Just got a message from pas giving date of interview. This will be the third stage and of you are successful at that interview you go through to the fourth stage which is a presentation. I assume that must be the last stage ??!!

    They seem to have split Stage 3 into two stages (3& 4). Interview and presentation were the same day in Batch 1. May be down to availability but seems very resource intensive.


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    #678
    froggiegirls
    Registered Users Posts: 77 ✭✭froggiegirls


    Yes that seems to be the case. Could be due to the fact that the interview is via zoom rather than face to face

    Bowiegal wrote: »
    They seem to have split Stage 3 into two stages (3& 4). Interview and presentation were the same day in Batch 1. May be down to availability but seems very resource intensive.


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    #679
    ShellyMCD
    Registered Users Posts: 108 ✭✭ShellyMCD


    froggiegirls wrote: »
    Just got a message from pas giving date of interview. This will be the third stage and of you are successful at that interview you go through to the fourth stage which is a presentation. I assume that must be the last stage ??!!

    You’d have to hope so!


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    #680
    sammysausages
    Registered Users Posts: 6 ✭sammysausages


    Regularreggie wrote: »
    Didnt get message. Am in the 90s. did they say how many they called for the interview?

    Hey, I'm in the 50s and haven't heard either. Maybe they are just calling a small bunch this time around.


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    #681
    Regularreggie
    Registered Users Posts: 18 ✭Regularreggie


    Got an update from PAS that they've called 50 with the Panels to end in October.


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    #682
    terminatorX1
    Registered Users Posts: 18 ✭terminatorX1


    Regularreggie wrote: »
    Got an update from PAS that they've called 50 with the Panels to end in October.

    Thanks for the update, 90s here too. Hopefully they call another 50 after this batch


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    #683
    hardybuck
    Registered Users Posts: 5,159 ✭✭✭hardybuck


    terminatorX1 wrote: »
    Thanks for the update, 90s here too. Hopefully they call another 50 after this batch

    Unlikely I'd say. 15-20 odd waiting to be placed from the panel, maybe another 15-20 to make it to a panel from the 50 they called would be my guess.

    That should be plenty to get through the year when DPER, Finance and Taoiseach's will be drawing from the PO1 panel.

    In addition, I'd say most Departments will probably run internal competitions before the next open competition is held to make sure the best internal candidates are kept.


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    #684
    Asimov2004
    Registered Users Posts: 16 ✭Asimov2004


    I know Revenue recently ran an internal PO competition and placed 16 on the panel. This is unlikely to affect anyone doing this comp though as Revenue don't normally fill vacancies through these open comps (they run specialist open competitions) but thought it would be useful info and seems to support Hardybuck's thinking.


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    #685
    Maybenever
    Registered Users Posts: 89 ✭✭Maybenever


    hardybuck wrote: »
    Unlikely I'd say. 15-20 odd waiting to be placed from the panel, maybe another 15-20 to make it to a panel from the 50 they called would be my guess.

    That should be plenty to get through the year when DPER, Finance and Taoiseach's will be drawing from the PO1 panel.

    In addition, I'd say most Departments will probably run internal competitions before the next open competition is held to make sure the best internal candidates are kept.

    tbh it's a bit of a pain to go through all this and then only get a few months on the panel. Not that I will be upset if I make it. I just got burned on the last one, it expired when I appeared to be next. :mad:


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    #686
    Belfry2018
    Registered Users Posts: 35 ✭Belfry2018


    Hi, any news on who the board members are for Stage 3??


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    #687
    froggiegirls
    Registered Users Posts: 77 ✭✭froggiegirls


    I haven’t heard anything
    Belfry2018 wrote: »
    Hi, any news on who the board members are for Stage 3??


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    #688
    Belfry2018
    Registered Users Posts: 35 ✭Belfry2018


    froggiegirls wrote: »
    I haven’t heard anything

    Nothing on the information sent out from PAS, which is another strange addition! Thanks


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    #689
    froggiegirls
    Registered Users Posts: 77 ✭✭froggiegirls


    Board members have been announced


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    #690
    Grey AP
    Registered Users Posts: 138 ✭✭Grey AP


    And panel one appears to be up to number 53 out of 65, so expect panel two to start in late March or April. Good luck to everyone being interviewed.


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    #691
    ShellyMCD
    Registered Users Posts: 108 ✭✭ShellyMCD


    I got caught in a meeting today and couldn’t test the zoom platform with PAS. I have zoom on my laptop and assuming it will be ok. Did anyone encounter any difficulties?


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