Dublin Airport COVID testing

trellheim · 16-11-2020 5:41pm #1

https://lovindublin.com/dublin/prices-for-covid-testing-facilities-at-dublin-airport-start-at-e99/

The details for the services are as follows:

Randox - (Walk-through service)

PCR test €99 with results within 24 hours.

Randox’s walk-through facility will be located in an existing building close to the Terminal 2 multi-storey car park and will have separate entry and exit points for customers.

RocDoc - (Drive-through service)

PCR test €129 with results in 24-48 hours, LAMP test €149 with results in 12 hours, and LAMP test express €159 with results in 5 hours.

RocDoc’s drive-through facility will be located in the Express Green car park, which is accessed via the R132 (Old Airport Road).

1123heavy · 17-11-2020 1:49am

The government argued in court that quarantine was only advisory. Why would you bother paying for this to avoid a quarantine you don't even need to do??

Van.Bosch · 17-11-2020 2:06am

1123heavy wrote: »

The government argued in court that quarantine was only advisory. Why would you bother paying for this to avoid a quarantine you don't even need to do??

Requirement for a destination outside Ireland?

Atlantic Dawn · 17-11-2020 2:24am

They can apperently do 12k tests a day, at €99 a go do they use gold to test for the virus? Where is the cost coming from?

4dxc · 17-11-2020 7:09am

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

They can apperently do 12k tests a day, at €99 a go do they use gold to test for the virus? Where is the cost coming from?

I guess this is the best price you get in Ireland. Others charge 160E and 180E (certified), see TMB: https://www.tmb.ie/prices. Obviously total rip-off.

Tenger · 17-11-2020 9:23am

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

They can apperently do 12k tests a day, at €99 a go do they use gold to test for the virus? Where is the cost coming from?

The lab facilities, technicians and reagents required to analyse the sample.
It's not a pregnancy test from Boots.

Thierry12 · 17-11-2020 9:27am

Tenger wrote: »

The lab facilities, technicians and reagents required to analyse the sample.
It's not a pregnancy test from Boots.

Ridiculous

Mandatory rapid tests at the gates for €5 each would catch way more cases

A compliance excercise is all this is.

Joke

L1011 · 17-11-2020 10:33am

Who are you expecting to subsidize the fiver?

The state is not going to pick up the tab for outbound tourism for starters, also the rapid antigen tests are insufficient for entry to many countries

DubDani · 17-11-2020 1:30pm

There are just not enough of those reliable rapid tests available in the world to hand them our at Airports. They are heavily limited even in acute Hospital settings.

bk · 17-11-2020 2:45pm

1123heavy wrote: »

Why would you bother paying for this to avoid a quarantine you don't even need to do??

People who might be visiting elderly parents/grandparents over Christmas who might like not to kill them!

I have many family/friends who would love to come home for Christmas, but are worried about getting elderly family sick. Easily accessible services like this helps make them fell more comfortable and thus more likely to fly.

Of course these tests have their limitations and folks should still be cautious.

3d4life · 17-11-2020 7:23pm

Thierry12 wrote: »

Ridiculous

Mandatory rapid tests at the gates for €5 each would catch way more cases

A compliance excercise is all this is.

Joke

Far from a joke.
In fact very useful for entry to a number of countries.

e.g. Spain : https://www.spain.info/en/discover-spain/practical-information-tourists-covid-19-travel-spain/

Where can I travel to Spain from?

You can travel to Spain if you are travelling from the European Union, from a country in the Schengen area, or from another country which has a reciprocal agreement with Spain for accepting travellers. These are Australia, China, South Korea, Japan, New Zealand, Rwanda, Singapore, Thailand and Uruguay. In all cases, a negative PCR test carried out within 72 hours prior to your arrival in Spain is mandatory if you are travelling from a high risk country or area (from 23 November)........

17-11-2020 7:28pm

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

They can apparently do 12k tests a day, at €99 a go do they use gold to test for the virus? Where is the cost coming from?

Ok, as it seems to be your specialist subject. Would you mind enlightening us with facts and figures as to how much this should cost please ?

Include rent, taxes , income taxes, running costs, pay, PPE, procurement costs, etc etc.

bk · 17-11-2020 8:01pm

bk wrote: »

People who might be visiting elderly parents/grandparents over Christmas who might like not to kill them!

BTW I should add, in case folks see this and are thinking of doing this and aren't aware of how these tests work.

Ideally when you arrive at your destination, you should isolate in a hotel for 5 to 6 days BEFORE getting the PCR test and then going to visit family who are high risk.

The reason is, lets say you are exposed to the virus on the flight, and you get the test at the airport straight after arriving, the test would come back negative, but you could still have Covid19 and become infectious a few days later.

It can take 5 days or so after you are exposed to the virus, before a PCR test can detect it in you.

Worth clarifying how this works so folks understand what is involved.

VivaLasBegas · 17-11-2020 9:25pm

bk wrote: »

The reason is, lets say you are exposed to the virus on the flight, and you get the test at the airport straight after arriving, the test would come back negative, but you could still have Covid19 and become infectious a few days later.

It can take 5 days or so after you are exposed to the virus, before a PCR test can detect it in you.

Worth clarifying how this works so folks understand what is involved.

While this may be true in terms of the germination period what utter nonsense. If that's the recommendation for travel it should apply for going to the supermarket or any other time you leave home. Absolute drivel. We are living in a nation in hysterics over this virus.

L1011 · 17-11-2020 9:32pm

VivaLasBegas wrote: »

While this may be true in terms of the germination period what utter nonsense. If that's the recommendation for travel it should apply for going to the supermarket or any other time you leave home. Absolute drivel. We are living in a nation in hysterics over this virus.

Travel can bring in variations of the disease not previously in a country - the most common mutation in Ireland currently originated from travel from Spain.

Irish Steve · 17-11-2020 11:44pm

VivaLasBegas wrote: »

While this may be true in terms of the germination period what utter nonsense. If that's the recommendation for travel it should apply for going to the supermarket or any other time you leave home.

Yes. It should, and it's one of the reasons why we, along with most of Europe are in some form of significant restrictions on our lives at the moment. Covid spreads very easily from person to person, so a considerable number of actitvities are at present stopped to reduce the spread of a virus that has proved to be very good at spreading itself to a large number of people, if you want proof of that, look at the numbers being infected and hospitalised in the USA right now.

Absolute drivel. We are living in a nation in hysterics over this virus.

Your opinion, and most people are not in hysterics. We are sick to the back teeth of the impact of this virus on our lives, and would dearly love to be able to wind the clock back 12 months, and lock down a lot earlier and with stronger restrictions, or forward 6 months so that we can start to have a more meaningful life than is possible at the moment.

Unfortunately, we can't do either, so we have to endure the additional limitations that a poorly managed health service is imposing on all of us, as well as doing the basic things that we've been asked to do from day 1, which are helping to reduce the numbers affected by this relentless virus.

beachhead · 17-11-2020 11:55pm

has anyone here considered the havoc a flu outbreak could cause this winter.There is more happening than covid19

TRANQUILLO · 18-11-2020 11:13am

Drive thru testing (no need to leave your vehicle) for:
- Express Test (LAMP) - (RESULTS IN A FEW HOURS - Dublin Meath & Shannon Centre Only) - €199 per test
- Standard Test (LAMP) - (RESULTS BACK THE SAME DAY) - €149 per test
- RT-PCR Test - (RESULTS BACK IN 1-2 WORKING DAYS) - €129

from RocDoc website.

These fees are even higher than advertised no?

L1011 · 18-11-2020 11:58am

The 99 is Randox, RocDoc always said 149+

bk · 18-11-2020 1:31pm

VivaLasBegas wrote: »

While this may be true in terms of the germination period what utter nonsense. If that's the recommendation for travel it should apply for going to the supermarket or any other time you leave home. Absolute drivel. We are living in a nation in hysterics over this virus.

No drivel! Just factual information on how testing works.

Last time I went to a supermarket, I didn't sit shoulder to shoulder with other people for multiple hours in a small cylinder with recycled air.

Clearly a supermarket and aircraft aren't the same level of risk. Add to that all the other contact points involved with flying, bus/taxi to/from the airport, checkin desk, security queue, busy terminal, boarding queue, etc.

Plus you can avoid the supermarket too, I've been doing online delivery for years, it is great.

This is all about limiting the risk to yourself and if visiting high risk family and friends over Christmas as many people will, limiting the risk to them too.

VivaLasBegas · 18-11-2020 1:41pm

bk wrote: »

No drivel! Just factual information on how testing works.

Last time I went to a supermarket, I didn't sit shoulder to shoulder with other people for multiple hours in a small cylinder with recycled air.

Clearly a supermarket and aircraft aren't the same level of risk. Add to that all the other contact points involved with flying, bus/taxi to/from the airport, checkin desk, security queue, busy terminal, boarding queue, etc.

Plus you can avoid the supermarket too, I've been doing online delivery for years, it is great.

This is all about limiting the risk to yourself and if visiting high risk family and friends over Christmas as many people will, limiting the risk to them too.

https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/flying-covid-19-harvard-study-wellness/index.html

Sure what would Harvard know! Think if all the items on supermarket shelves and then think of who was touching them before you did?? How often do we pick items up and put them back. It is just as much a risk.

NPHET have been demonizing travel despite very few cases as a direct result of travel all while conveniently ignoring their abject failure to prepare us for a second wave. We have granted NPHET too much power and they almost rule all while charting a path not travelled by other states and doing serious damage to the Irish economy and aviation in particular.

bk · 18-11-2020 1:42pm

beachhead wrote: »

has anyone here considered the havoc a flu outbreak could cause this winter.There is more happening than covid19

That has been very much at the forefront of public health experts thinking and planning for the past 6 months.

Covid19 + a flu outbreak would be the nightmare scenario. That is why they are encouraging everyone to get the flu vaccine this year and why it is free for everyone this year (normally it isn't).

Some good news from some of the Southern Hemisphere countries, is that countries that put in place lots of Covid19 restrictions, saw very little flu this year. The steps that help reduce Covid, also help reduce flu.

bk · 18-11-2020 1:52pm

VivaLasBegas wrote: »

https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/flying-covid-19-harvard-study-wellness/index.html

Sure what would Harvard know! Think if all the items on supermarket shelves and then think of who was touching them before you did?? How often do we pick items up and put them back. It is just as much a risk.

t was funded by airlines, airplane manufacturers and airports, but the Harvard researchers insist this did not impact their findings.

ROFLOL, here I have a bridge to sell you.

We know for a fact that there have been outbreaks on aircraft, the article you linked to mentions one reported right here in Ireland.

Far too many people on flights, eating/drinking and not wearing masks or not wearing them properly.

Of course NPHET's major concern is less catching it on the plane and more about important new mutated strains from abroad. The version of Covid19 currently circulating in Ireland (60% of cases) is a mutation that developed in Spain and was brought back by holiday makers.

VivaLasBegas · 18-11-2020 3:21pm

bk wrote: »

ROFLOL, here I have a bridge to sell you.

We know for a fact that there have been outbreaks on aircraft, the article you linked to mentions one reported right here in Ireland.

Far too many people on flights, eating/drinking and not wearing masks or not wearing them properly.

Of course NPHET's major concern is less catching it on the plane and more about important new mutated strains from abroad. The version of Covid19 currently circulating in Ireland (60% of cases) is a mutation that developed in Spain and was brought back by holiday makers.

Industry funded research is nothing new and necessary to counter the drivel spouted by NPHET and people such as yourself. I suspect you might be a proponent of the Zero Covid approach? Another load of fantasy and just no practical. We need to learn to live with Covid and not close ourselves off. Harvard have a reputation to protect and that is not for sale to airlines or anyone else.

NPHET and the government have failed to prepare for the second wave so they are spreading the mud around. A handful of cases from travel they highlight (yet if the had airport testing in place they probably would have caught those) but they are ignoring the blatant flouting of existing regulations even at Level 2 and 3 not to mind at Level 5! Lack of backbone to tackle house parties and and the behaviour of students and young people. The refusal to believe that kids in schools can spread the virus despite the scientific evidence from abroad:

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/kids-are-getting-covid-19-at-school-and-spreading-it-to-families

NPHET have gone against WHO advice in terms of recommending lockdown, WHO advise only as a last resort. They ignored the ECDC all summer in terms of travel and other advice. They pick and choose the areas where they follow science and do what they want in other areas. All while damaging the Irish economy and doing harm to jobs and livelihoods. They have taken no account of people's mental health or the impact on other health services (cancer etc). There will be a glut of cancer that has not been diagnosed in the coming 12 or 18 months. And there is no accountability and the government have decided to abdicate more or less and cede control to NPHET.

https://extra.ie/2020/11/18/business/irish/ibec-nphet-kite-flying

Leo was right all those weeks ago, NPHET and Holohan in particular need reigning in. They should advise the government (in private) and thats it! No need for the late late show or Morning Ireland etc etc.

1123heavy · 18-11-2020 3:52pm

I'd rather get COVID than pay the ridiculous prices being quoted in all honesty.

TRANQUILLO · 18-11-2020 4:19pm

anyone know if we can claim tax relief on these tests? Medical fees etc

I'll need them every month id say , sometimes twice a month .

TRANQUILLO · 18-11-2020 4:21pm

L1011 wrote: »

The 99 is Randox, RocDoc always said 149+

I just booked a flight for 19.99 and the covid test is costing me 200 euro.

****ing ridiculous. And if I have a false positive im ****ed.

goingnowhere · 18-11-2020 5:39pm

TRANQUILLO wrote: »

anyone know if we can claim tax relief on these tests? Medical fees etc

I'll need them every month id say , sometimes twice a month .

Nope, you can only claim if it was a treatment prescribed by a doctor. COVID testing is free if you meet the clinical case definition.

Obviously your employer should be paying for testing if it is a critical business need.

If we all pull together and get the numbers down we might be a green country and could halve the testing need for travel

TRANQUILLO · 18-11-2020 5:44pm

goingnowhere wrote: »

Nope, you can only claim if it was a treatment prescribed by a doctor. COVID testing is free if you meet the clinical case definition.

Obviously your employer should be paying for testing if it is a critical business need.

If we all pull together and get the numbers down we might be a green country and could halve the testing need for travel

Im my employer.

its a business expense as far as i can see. i don't want the test or need the test. they are making me take the test.

Im done with trying to get the numbers down. The numbers mean nothing.

HTCOne · 18-11-2020 5:45pm

bk wrote: »

Covid19 + a flu outbreak would be the nightmare scenario. That is why they are encouraging everyone to get the flu vaccine this year and why it is free for everyone this year (normally it isn't)..

HSE have told GPs and Pharmacists to stop giving the flu vaccine to anyone under 65 without a chronic health condition as they only ordered 1.4 million doses (children's vaccine is different and they ordered too many of those). The HSE flu vaccine management has been a joke this year but getting into that is another topic.

Cathay and other foreign carriers gone, Cityjet emigrated, EI looking at emigrating significant ops to Manchester and the regional airports being warned by both Aer Lingus and Ryanair that there’s a good chance they’ll never be back, all because we had to put in the most draconian travel restrictions in Europe to protect our shambolic health system which manages to implode most winters regardless due lack of beds and chronic inefficiency and waste of resources.

The industry in this country will be a shadow of itself thanks to NPHETs megalomania. We had all summer to build surge capacity, turn indoor event spaces or empty hotels into recovery spaces for non covid patients. We nationalised private hospitals for months and then wasted their resources. NPHET did a half decent job in the Spring and spent the Summer and early Autumn congratulating themselves, whilst still letting other industries die. They don’t have a clue and don’t get half enough scrutiny from a compliant media.

goingnowhere · 18-11-2020 5:56pm

TRANQUILLO wrote: »

Im my employer.

its a business expense as far as i can see. i don't want the test or need the test. they are making me take the test.

Im done with trying to get the numbers down. The numbers mean nothing.

Then it is a business expense no different than a visa fee, office equipment or whatever.

Irish Steve · 18-11-2020 9:57pm

VivaLasBegas wrote: »

https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/flying-covid-19-harvard-study-wellness/index.html

Sure what would Harvard know! Think if all the items on supermarket shelves and then think of who was touching them before you did?? How often do we pick items up and put them back. It is just as much a risk.

NPHET have been demonizing travel despite very few cases as a direct result of travel all while conveniently ignoring their abject failure to prepare us for a second wave. We have granted NPHET too much power and they almost rule all while charting a path not travelled by other states and doing serious damage to the Irish economy and aviation in particular.

did you actually read ALL that article you quoted? Maybe not, because they then went on to say things that don't fit too well with your agenda.

So, here you go. From the same article that was quoted earlier by you.

What can go wrong

On the other hand, a study released by Irish researchers shows what can go wrong onboard, even when precautions are taken.
Through contract tracing, public health officials in Dublin and other cities linked 13 cases to a single passenger on a seven-hour international flight this summer. Fewer than one in five seats were filled. None of the travelers were known to not wear a mask on the flight.
So how did that spread?
"Exposure possibilities for flight cases include inflight, during overnight transfer/pre-flight or unknown acquisition before the flight," the researchers wrote. One traveler could have picked up the virus from a family member. Two others spent multi-hour layovers in airport lounges.
But for others, "in-flight transmission was the only common exposure," they concluded, noting that "four of the flight cases were not seated next to any other positive case, had no contact in the transit lounge, wore face masks in-flight and would not be deemed close contacts."

And then you wonder why NPHET are not happy about the risks of air travel?

VivaLasBegas · 18-11-2020 10:28pm

Of course I read it and I see nothing in that article that proves NPHET right about travel. Not sure how it was transmitted so they made suppositions with no actual scientific evidence on the transmission. Just as likely they picked it up in a taxi, a bus, a supermarket etc etc either before or after their journey.

Tenger · 19-11-2020 3:55pm

If this thread continues to avoid talking about covid testing at the airport it will be closed

Dingle_berry · 19-11-2020 4:11pm

1123heavy wrote: »

I'd rather get COVID than pay the ridiculous prices being quoted in all honesty.

What makes you say that the price of the test is ridiculous?

L1011 · 19-11-2020 11:52pm

1123heavy wrote: »

I'd rather get COVID than pay the ridiculous prices being quoted in all honesty.

That's.... that's not how it works.

A test tells you you have it, it doesn't stop you getting it.

EchoIndia · 20-11-2020 11:27pm

L1011 wrote: »

That's.... that's not how it works.

A test tells you you have it, it doesn't stop you getting it.

A test tells you if the virus has been detected. It cannot tell if you are incubating the virus but not yet at the stage where it can be detected.

1123heavy · 21-11-2020 4:58pm

L1011 wrote: »

That's.... that's not how it works.

A test tells you you have it, it doesn't stop you getting it.

Allow me to rephrase, I'd rather not know I have it than pay this outrageous price to know.

L1011 · 21-11-2020 9:57pm

1123heavy wrote: »

Allow me to rephrase, I'd rather not know I have it than pay this outrageous price to know.

Testing is free from the state if you actually show symptoms.

This price is a convenience fee for getting a test to travel. Its a market driven price. No state agency is going to pay for or even subsidise tests for outbound tourism/business travel.

Inquitus · 22-11-2020 12:40am

Passenger passes PCR test while asymptomatic but contagious, as PCR doesn't detect that early in the cycle and infects multiple passengers on the plane:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/travel/2020/11/20/new-zealand-flight-covid/

The evidence contradicts an October Department of Defense study that suggested a contagious person would need to sit next to a passenger for at least 54 hours to infect them, and declared coronavirus transmission risk on planes “low.” It also raises questions about the efficacy of high-efficient air filtration on planes that airlines have credited as keeping passengers safe.

Link is behind ad block paywall, so you may not get to see it, use incognito mode to bypass paywall

TRANQUILLO · 22-11-2020 12:13pm

L1011 wrote: »

Its a market driven price.

I'd have to disagree there.

Some gouging going on.

Stevek101 · 22-11-2020 12:33pm

Is anyone offering an antigen test?

California Dreamer · 23-11-2020 9:06am

It will be just like the PPE. In March you would pay €5 for 1 paper facemask. Now they are far cheaper

RocDoc are filling a service and then as time moves on the rapid cheap tests will take over.

I suppose it depends on how badly you need to travel.

blackis200 · 12-02-2021 12:44am

I need to travel (necessary) to Heathrow next week.
Do I need to get a PCR test to leave Ireland and enter England?
I thought Irish citizens are exempt, common travel area etc.
So confusing..

CVB · 12-02-2021 4:01am

blackis200 wrote: »

I need to travel (necessary) to Heathrow next week.
Do I need to get a PCR test to leave Ireland and enter England?
I thought Irish citizens are exempt, common travel area etc.
So confusing..

What's the purpose of your necessary travel to UK ?..... what are you telling the garda checkpoint as you drive into airport and again another garda checkpoint inside airport building checking..... ? Everyone need pcr , randox testing company has next day 99euro test and get fly cert....

12-02-2021 6:35am

CVB wrote: »

What's the purpose of your necessary travel to UK ?

How is that your business or relevant to the ops question? The poster asked a simple question, no need to become a self appointed Garda!

blackis200 · 12-02-2021 8:09am

Thank you. Is there a list of testing facilities somewhere?
I live in Cavan so better try find a PCR test co. near here. I'm going to tell the garda it's a necessary journey so that I can catch my next next flight from London.

goingnowhere · 12-02-2021 8:47am

You do not need a PCR to enter the UK from Ireland as things stand this morning, given how random the UK government are check daily.

You will need a PCR test to return and will also need a further test 5 days after return, depending on the length of your trip you might be able to get tested in Ireland get to the UK and get back within 72 hours (72 hours from the test being performed)

If you are in possession of a medical appointment you are exempted from the 5km limits, so a booking email, sms etc should be shown to the garda (If its for COVID testing you hold this up to the window of the car, do not open the window)

blackis200 · 12-02-2021 8:59am

goingnowhere wrote: »

You do not need a PCR to enter the UK from Ireland as things stand this morning, given how random the UK government are check daily.

You will need a PCR test to return and will also need a further test 5 days after return, depending on the length of your trip you might be able to get tested in Ireland get to the UK and get back within 72 hours (72 hours from the test being performed)

If you are in possession of a medical appointment you are exempted from the 5km limits, so a booking email, sms etc should be shown to the garda (If its for COVID testing you hold this up to the window of the car, do not open the window)

Thank you.
I'm Irish passport holder/citizen/resident going to UK 2 days before a flight to Australia. I'm going to uk so that I can get the required covid test at the qantas specific test centre. This qantas covid test can't be done in Ireland. (Crazy).

If I have to do PCR test in Ireland as well, I have to arrange it now and travel to get the test.

The "within 72 hours of arrival" also is a worry.
What happens if you get the test 71 hours prior and the flight is delayed by 5 hours?
Crazy times. Expensive...

goingnowhere · 12-02-2021 9:15am

You don't need a test to enter the UK if you have been in Ireland for the last 14 days. Private testing for most providers gives 95% of results within 24 hours, so you then plan to travel around 48 hours after the test so the 72 hours is not a big issue

It might be advisable to have a test before travel to minimise the chance of getting stuck in the UK in the unlikely event a positive result is reported.

I know we are not the gardai but you will need to demonstrate you meet one of the categories permitted for travel. If not thats another 500 euro, though there is talk of 2,000 euro in coming weeks.

blackis200 · 12-02-2021 10:41am

goingnowhere wrote: »

You don't need a test to enter the UK if you have been in Ireland for the last 14 days. Private testing for most providers gives 95% of results within 24 hours, so you then plan to travel around 48 hours after the test so the 72 hours is not a big issue

It might be advisable to have a test before travel to minimise the chance of getting stuck in the UK in the unlikely event a positive result is reported.

I know we are not the gardai but you will need to demonstrate you meet one of the categories permitted for travel. If not thats another 500 euro, though there is talk of 2,000 euro in coming weeks.

Thank you. You have been more helpful than anyone else I've contacted.
Airline just refer to web link. The web link info is unclear

What I understand is that as an Irish citizen, travelling from ireland to London and providing I haven't been out of Ireland in the last 14 days, I dont (CURRENTLY) require a test within 72 hrs of arrival in LONDON.
That could change at any time.

In my situation (current( a test is not mandatory but I could obtain 1 for peace of mind.

Riding on this is a huge investment in car hires, hotels, flights, quarantine and all other tolls in getting to Australia.
Stressful times..

Dublin Airport COVID testing

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