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RTÉ ONE, 2, Junior, and Player

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,259 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Just reading that RTÉ's coverage of the one of the hurling games when out on RTÉ2 on Sky in Irish, however only quickly glanced at the article am I safe to assume that those watching that game on Sky happened to be on the RTÉ News channel?

    Also why simucast the game on the News Channel?


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  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,850 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    Here’s the only report I can find of it, apparently affected Sky viewers only.

    Theyve been doing the News Channel Irish commentaries of the latter stages for a few years now. You’ll probably remember that RTE had a decades old tradition of doing Minor commentaries in Irish but they lost the rights to those games about a decade ago and I suspect this practice possibly arose out of that gap.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,259 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    AFAIK RTÉ also provide the commentary as part of the audio options on RTÉ2, so there is no real need for this simulcast on the RTÉ News Channel (Easier to call it RTÉ News Now TBH).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,805 ✭✭✭lertsnim


    Yes it was always available on the Irish audio channel on Saorview at least. Then for some reason they direct viewers wanting Irish to go to the news channel with the worse picture quality.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭JDxtra


    RTE broadcasting a movie at the moment in lieu of The Late Late Show. Movie is The Wedding Planner. The image quality is poor - almost like an SD copy that was upscaled. The ads actually look better!

    Not the first time I’ve seen this happen. Did they cheap out and only buy the rights to SD versions??



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,892 ✭✭✭deezell






  • Must say RTE’s inability to broadcast extra live events beyond its existing linear channels has been shown up by this years expanded GAA championship. The reason i’d say this, is that this year for the first time the BBC’s extra Wimbledon coverage will be online only bar a single red button channel via satellite. RTE badly needs to develop its online resources to cope IMO. If it wasn’t for independent local radio, FTA coverage of GAA would be really lacking.



  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,850 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    They have broadcast simultaneous fixtures via the RTE News Channel in the past. I think your pointing the finger in the wrong direction this time, the fault’s with the TV deal and the apparently enchanted role of GAAGO (who seem to be broadcasting way more fixtures than Sky, who typically had a max of two Saturday evening fixtures, ever did).





  • But since RTE are involved in the GAA Go venture aren’t they dodging their PSB obligations somewhat? If they can supply the infrastructure for it why can’t they expand the capabilities of their own player to provide online FTA coverage?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,892 ✭✭✭deezell


    I think GAA sports are way past being a public service, or an extension of the free state. Even in the 60s RTE were criticised for covering a soccer International I think instead of some gaa match, though I can't recall the exact details.



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  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,850 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    To be clear, the Government has only listed the All Ireland Finals as requiring free to air coverage. The GAA are absolutely free to sell their rights for any other matches to whoever they choose.

    I have my misgivings about RTE’s involvement with GAAGO. The BBC have put clear Chinese walls between their PSB channels and their UKTV commercial channels, and they don’t cross promote. RTE cross promote GAAGO which to me gives rise to significant competition concerns, if license fee money is being used to give GAAGO free publicity.

    Leaving that aside however, for rights purposes, RTE and GAAGO have to be seen as two different entities. This isn’t (or shouldn’t be, anyway) a case of RTE moving fixtures to GAAGO that should be broadcast on RTE. These are games that had Sky retained the rights should have been on Sky or games that wouldn’t have been on tv anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,259 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Do they cross promo GAA GO, I think RTÉ's only cross promotion is on the news after a match, to say pictures from GAA GO, I don't think RTÉ ever advertise GAA GO as part of the promos or during other match as such ".. you can watch the next game over on GAA GO ..."

    This is wrong if they do this, if they don't do it for TG4 or VMTV sports.

    however IMO TG4, VMTV and RTÉ should all show where games are going to be on regardless of channel. e.g. on TV news if TG4 has a game then say it will be on TG4, if VMTV are showing horse racing say it will be on VMTV.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,805 ✭✭✭lertsnim


    I don't recall seeing any promotion for RTÉ on GAA Go. I have seen RTÉ say if a game will be on GAA Go though when they are saying what games are on a particular weekend.



  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,850 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    It’s more mentions during programming rather than full-blown promos. It does happen though, and it’s not just oral - it will appear at the bottom of the screen too from time to time.

    This weekend there’s going to be simultaneous games on RTE One and Two btw, with Galway v Mayo on RTE One at Sunday 3pm while the normal double bill is on RTE Two, with Meath v Antrim (2pm) and Down v Laois (4pm) featured. RTE also have a hurling double bill on Saturday, Dublin v Clare and Galway v Tipperary.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,259 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    If it is mentions during a game, as such to say, "the next game will be on GAA GO" then this is an issue, I can understand that RTÉ and VMTV came to agreement to highlight when games were on each others channels for the six nations but I don't think RTÉ could legitimate think that such promotions on RTÉ Sports' coverage of GAA could allow them to highlight if the next game is on GAA GO.

    However if RTÉ are playing coverage from GAA GO and the logo is on screen I have no issue with this.

    I assume the arrangement will continue with RWC 2023 also.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,259 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Shortsighted for RTÉ to bring Ray D'Arcy into RTÉ, TBH. If a show doesn't do all that well you axe the show, The Den did alright, but it missed some of the key aspect of The Den IMO and failed to bring in a significant audience.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,259 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Anyway nothing to see here 😂


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,040 ✭✭✭iseegirls


    With The Ellen Degeneres Show finished, looks like RTE have taken over The Kelly Clarkson Show from VMTV.

    Series 4 starting at 10:10am on Monday 3rd July. Oddly VMTV only showed episodes 1-60 in Series 3 (there are 180 in Series 3), and in true VMTV style - most of those episodes have been shown up to 8 times across VM2 and VM4 over the past 8 months, and look to be still continuing to be shown/repeated next month.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,259 ✭✭✭RoTelly



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 184 ✭✭AJB39


    It’s perfect daytime fodder and I doubt it costs very much relative to other programmes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,259 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Perfect VMTV / TV3 / Commerical fodder. RTÉ's only daytime show is on holidays for the next 4 months, while RTÉ news and CA will start short days over the next few weeks, if RTÉ were actually spending good money on prime time content it might be forgivable but they are not. It's not just because its Silly Season.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,259 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    I see that RTÉ ONE and RTÉ2 in the afternoons are now providing the same type of programming. Celebrity Bake Off V Masterchef from 3:30.

    Is this just for the month of auguest and when News2day returns TRTÉ will resume until 4:30. Or are they slowly edging it out of the schedules. I know Children don't watch TV, that isn't this issue the issue is the act and section 103.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,259 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Clearly out to sell themselves to the public.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,892 ✭✭✭deezell


    MOD - Post deleted and poster warned - post totally out of order.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,404 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    Jesus. The conspiracy theory forum is over here:


    Post edited by icdg on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,892 ✭✭✭deezell


    I was quoting John Brennan. "The Kerry hotelier wrote a highly critical open letter to RTÉ’s director general condemning him for the “public execution” of Ryan Tubridy......the At Your Service star accused Kevin Bakhurst of humiliating Tubridy and collapsing contract negotiations to warn others within the organisation ".

    The second bit was a metaphor for the autocratic management style which offended John, who knows a thing or two about people management.

    And don't call me Jesus!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,259 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    So it looks like RTÉ are releasing details on a daily basis, I wonder what's happing in RTÉ for them to spread the autumn launch over the next few weeks!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 10 Danish Daddy


    Because of Neighbors returning next week, Shortland Street is dropped from the RTE TWO schedule completely, (It also returns to Midday & 4am on RTE ONE) whoever doing up the roster must have forgotten that Shortland Street had joined the RTE TWO teatime schedule a year or more before Neighbors was axed.



  • Registered Users Posts: 489 ✭✭EdmondShiels3


    Yes back to the old when it is on at a different time everyday.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,259 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    I'd have thought they would have taken the oppertunity to move home and away to 7pm with Neighbours moving to 6:30.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 13 Kim_Lee


    Why do they waste The Simpsons by showing it at around 4pm . I'd have the Simpsons on 7 to 8 and I'd buy in American Dad and Family Guy and have them on 8 till 10



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,847 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    Taken from the Indo:

    Mr Bakhurst said RTE would be cutting costs on the RTE Player as well as on outside broadcasts. “There are limited levers I can pull, but I am pulling every lever I can to conserve cash.”

    Cutting costs on rte player, he must have never used it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,259 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    He's unwilling to really examine costs.

    Their budget for "Today with Dathi and Maura" needs to be examined, here's a costly daytime show that take a break for 4 months, its clearly not needed or it clearly needs a reduced budget or a 52 week run.

    2FM budget should also be examined but I doubt they will do this either.

    No real change is going to occur.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,259 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Just to mention that RTÉ KIDS is slowly being used on some branding, I think it started at Christmas. TRTÉ is still in use but RTÉ2 idents during programming.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,259 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    AERTEL to close on 12 October 2023.

    Interesting how RTÉ choose a screen capture of Aertel Analogue rather than Digital Aertel.

    I think this is just 2 aspects of the over all Strategy 2024 that will actually happen, the other being the move of the NSO.

    Can't see sport making its way to RTÉ ONE.

    Lack of support technology available for Aertel, a limited legacy text service. Many technical components in the Aertel systems are no longer supported by the manufacturer, with further elements losing support later this year. The technology required to deliver the Aertel service has limited availability and is not supported on many newer TVs or set top boxes.

    Is this true?


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  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,850 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    As far as the WST version (still a digital service despite being broadcast over analogue TV) yes, the only platform it is still carried on is Sky, and even to access it via Sky you need an STB that’s old enough to have a Scart output and to have it actually connected via Scart to your TV that’s also old enough to have a Scart input.

    It probably isn’t true of the MHEG-5 service on Saorview mind.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,526 ✭✭✭dublinman1990


    If anyone has the Digital version of Aertel on their Saorview TV's or STB's that support it; it actually has that press release up for it's closure on the 12th of October. The press release is on page 700. It appears to imply that all versions of Aertel will close down on that date.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,259 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Strange they are replacing Home And Away with Shortland Street as Home and Away takes a break.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,259 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    I don't think RTÉ are that joined up in there thinking. They went to tender with in after that AFAIR. They would have been better of spending that small amount of money on developing the look of the channel.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,892 ✭✭✭deezell


    It is probably inevitable that broadcast media in its current form will dissappear altogether in the future, to be replaced entirely by streamed consumption over telecom channels, fibre and 4/5G, and perhaps some version of satellite. If you consume your 'radio" in your car via android auto, Spotify or Tune in, and your viewing at home from Players, Disney, Netflix etc, then the future is already here.

    I witnessed the opening and the closing of the 405 line analogue TV service, watched the screen blank as they turned off the 625 line analogue, tuned in for the end of Medium wave, and the Long wave services, and just recently sat and waited for the Aertel to vanish.

    Oddly though, my analogue pulse dial telephone still works, but this is an anomaly, there are no strowger exchanges in operation, in this case my router provides the analogue termination and the virtual landline on Voip. I thing Eircom still supply this landline virtually also, at the premises, but there are no dial pulsed PSTN technologies in use.

    Its a bit like the Saorview tuner built into a scart plug I have that can supply RTE to an old analogue portable TV set that still (just about) displays images. Neither used for years, but I can't bring myself to bin it. It's crazy how a daily used technology like VHS can become a museum piece in barely 25 years. I have a working cassette tape player still on a mini music centre, these tend to die from age when rubber drive components perish and break. A cassette has sat in it for countless years now, appropriately, a cheap KTel Horslips compilation.

    We've seen extraordinary progress really, yet the Russians are fighting a war with some machine guns designed in 1906. Butchers tools haven't changed It seems.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 184 ✭✭AJB39


    It

    All that may be true, but it’s still vital that Irish public service broadcasting is part of the streaming landscape and it’s vital that it’s funded properly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,892 ✭✭✭deezell


    It will remain I've no doubt, but its delivery will be very much different, and it's structures may well change, with the various public service genres independently funded and delivered without a single 'national' overseer or branded broadcast network, but perhaps hosted by third party streaming services who might bid for the content, or contract to supply it. Thus publicly funded free to air content could have one or many homes.

    A look at media consumption habits of the present upcoming generations gives us a glimpse into the future, and I don't see that as being material broadcast once live to 6 million but consumed by only a few tens of thousands. Nor do I envisage consumers having to sign up to 7 or 8 streaming services, rather delivery services will emerge that might well be like a pick n mix, like smart channel hopping of your determined preferences. AI driven no doubt. 'RTE' might well exist, but be completely different for any given user, as it tailors it's output based on your profile. I'll probably be senile by then, so I'm not too worried.



  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,850 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    I wondered why RTE hadn’t had a launch for their Christmas schedule this year and now having seen it I wonder no more; they’ve cancelled Christmas! Well not quite, but the only new RTE produced programme (not news) between Christmas Eve and Christmas Day is Fair City, sandwiched between a ton of films. Even the Christmas Eve Carols have bitten the dust. Stephen’s Day is only saved by the sport otherwise it’s pretty much the same.

    On the plus side they are running the Late Late Show on New Years Eve, which they’ve tended to not do much for in recent years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,259 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    They had a bit of a Christmas schedule. I am assuming the Irish Hidden Camera show was a repeat, though it was due to get a full season run.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,892 ✭✭✭deezell


    Operation Mortification returns for more fat shaming. According to the Indo they can't get a sponsor for the 'show'. It no longer seems to be enough to be just obese and willing to shame yourself, perhaps in the fun self deprecating way that we all often do about our perceived shortcomings to our friends and family, like the cluttered house, the smoking habit, the serial driving test fails etc. No, with OT you now need a misery angle. Tragedy, cancer, parkinsons or downs syndrome children or some catastrophe that was responsible for your comfort eating and obesity. Just being fat but happy doesn't cut it. Ugh.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,259 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    It was largely supported by HSE's HI programme over the years, they pulled out last year over concerns that people might lose weight.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,259 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    RTÉ News had The Best FIFA Awards 2023 on last night.

    What is noticeable about is that RTÉ remove the tickers for such shows, showing that even they agree that the tickers aren't valuable to anyone.

    And then their is the DOG/BUG if you were to be strict on DOG/BUG RTÉ News's one would be the same size and transparency as ONE and 2, but its smaller and more transparent, if only RTÉ ONE and 2 could follow RTÉ News.

    But if it is a news channel surely RTÉ during the show could have the news logo with the time and also a ticker on the bottom of the screen.

    Either way their decision about the RTÉ News channel on non-news programmes shows that they themselves have issues with the look of the channel.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 18 00s anorak


    I'm currently near a television tuned to RTE 2 and I see that "TRTE" has the same indents that it had back in 2010. It's funny how RTE do absolutely no effort for the youth on television but claim that 2fm is essential for the youth, ignoring the fact that most under 30s don't even own an FM apparatus in 2024



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