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Tiviar Alpha Plus Combo STB

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  • #152
    The high horse brigade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    Jurgen Klopp wrote: »
    Ah ok, feck where did I put the CD lol

    Cd? That'd be a Windows driver, these boxes run Linux. You'll need to use a USB tuner that is supported by OpenAtv


  • #153
    Jurgen Klopp
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,807 ✭✭✭Jurgen Klopp


    The high horse brigade wrote: »
    Cd? That'd be a Windows driver, these boxes run Linux. You'll need to use a USB tuner that is supported by OpenAtv

    Ah feck assumed all tuners were cross compatible....

    What would you rec? Need it cause this house reg cross records on Saorvoew


  • #154
    The high horse brigade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    Jurgen Klopp wrote: »
    Ah feck assumed all tuners were cross compatible....

    What would you rec? Need it cause this house reg cross records on Saorvoew

    http://www.freetv.ie/usb-dvb-t2-tuner/


  • #155
    Jurgen Klopp
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,807 ✭✭✭Jurgen Klopp


    Thanks bud


  • #156
    greasepalm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,475 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    what 2 tuners do you have in usb,sometimes you cant run 2 of the same type i think?


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  • #157
    Jurgen Klopp
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,807 ✭✭✭Jurgen Klopp


    greasepalm wrote: »
    what 2 tuners do you have in usb,sometimes you cant run 2 of the same type i think?

    The USB tuner is a terrestrial tuner. I checked tho, it is only for PC, one of those 10 euro ones only meant for laptops and windows OS, I incorrectly assumed they would be cross compatible I ordered the one high horse rec and we'll see what happens I'll let you all know


  • #158
    Jurgen Klopp
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,807 ✭✭✭Jurgen Klopp


    I actually found a driver on the plugins that let the box rec the USB T tuner and even set it

    RTL282. My one is RTL2838UHIDIR

    However it says tune failed, driver doesn't fully do the trick, would have been funny if it worked


  • #159
    Johnboy1951
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,031 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Jurgen Klopp wrote: »
    I actually found a driver on the plugins that let the box rec the USB T tuner and even set it

    RTL282. My one is RTL2838UHIDIR

    However it says tune failed, driver doesn't fully do the trick, would have been funny if it worked

    I use €8 dongles here with RTL2832 chipset and I exclusively run Linux (with the addition of Android on test recently).

    Without your providing the exact hardware details of the dongle it is only guesswork whether it will work in Linux or not.


  • #160
    Johnboy1951
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,031 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    sligojoek wrote: »
    I've had a few unexpected expenses since I last posted so I'm gonna have to hold off buying the box for a week or two.

    One question. THHB said the EPG updates at 4 am. Does the box have to be left plugged in or will it update after it's turned on next day? I always turn off the switch on the socket going to bed.
    The high horse brigade wrote: »
    Stop doing that, you should really leave it on standby where it can do scheduled recordings. It will consume very little power. We now live in the age of the internet of things where home automation devices are available at all times

    ... or set the time for updates to one the box is unlikely to be in use but switched on.

    Can it be set to check at each power on/boot?

    A combination of both should work also.


  • #161
    MeTheMan
    Registered Users Posts: 527 ✭✭✭MeTheMan


    Was looking at getting this box to replace sky plus. Was thinking of taking the hdd out of the sky box and putting it in this box. Would that work. Also can you have saorview and free view on the one epg? With 7 days advanced list?

    Thanks.


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  • #162
    The high horse brigade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    MeTheMan wrote: »
    Was looking at getting this box to replace sky plus. Was thinking of taking the hdd out of the sky box and putting it in this box. Would that work. Also can you have saorview and free view on the one epg? With 7 days advanced list?

    Thanks.

    Yes, you can arrange the channels whatever way you like in groups called bouquets. I've a Saorview at the top then the Freesat categories and have a selection of our most used in a favourites bouquet down at the bottom.

    448724.png

    If the sky box has a 2.5 inch SATA HDD you should in theory be able to fit it. I'm not sure what type drive they use or whether they use a proprietary connector, someone else might know. Just make sure you format and initialise it with the Tiviar so there's a blank drive


  • #163
    Jurgen Klopp
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,807 ✭✭✭Jurgen Klopp


    Ok quick settings question

    I want to turn off enable multiple bouquets so when I press EPG it automatically jumps to teh one channel list I've made

    However it defaults to Favourites if I do this

    Is there a way to mass copy my bouquet over to 5he favourites list as opposed to adding each channel manually?

    I need this for the mother and sister as even switching between bouquets will have my listening to moaning :(


  • #164
    The high horse brigade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    Jurgen Klopp wrote: »
    Ok quick settings question

    I want to turn off enable multiple bouquets so when I press EPG it automatically jumps to teh one channel list I've made

    However it defaults to Favourites if I do this

    Is there a way to mass copy my bouquet over to 5he favourites list as opposed to adding each channel manually?

    I need this for the mother and sister as even switching between bouquets will have my listening to moaning :(

    Pressing Epg should default to the Epg of the bouquet of the channel you were watching is in. If you're in entertainment watching bbc1 and press epg it will open the entertainment bouquet showing you the channel you were watching. Is yours opening favourites every time?

    You're probably best to leave it alone and let them get used to it, enigma is basically the same on every box. You may add more boxes in other rooms or upgrade this box in a few years. I've learnt a lesson in this by having setup boxes for my mam and brother a few years ago, it's just easier leave it default and let them learn


  • #165
    Jurgen Klopp
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,807 ✭✭✭Jurgen Klopp


    The high horse brigade wrote: »
    Pressing Epg should default to the Epg of the bouquet of the channel you were watching is in. If you're in entertainment watching bbc1 and press epg it will open the entertainment bouquet showing you the channel you were watching. Is yours opening favourites every time?

    You're probably best to leave it alone and let them get used to it, enigma is basically the same on every box. You may add more boxes in other rooms or upgrade this box in a few years. I've learnt a lesson in this by having setup boxes for my mam and brother a few years ago, it's just easier leave it default and let them learn

    I have it set up just how I like it. Manually added my 80 channel list to Favourites

    Then went into setting and turned off enable multiple bouquets.

    Now EPG can only bring up the exact and only list, piece of piss for anyone here. That tuner you rec was posted today, just waiting on that

    Thanks


  • #166
    The high horse brigade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    Jurgen Klopp wrote: »
    I have it set up just how I like it. Manually added my 80 channel list to Favourites

    Then went into setting and turned off enable multiple bouquets.

    Now EPG can only bring up the exact and only list, piece of piss for anyone here. That tuner you rec was posted today, just waiting on that

    Thanks

    I get it now. You must want all channels in a single bouquet

    Be sure and press blue and take a full backup when you have it sorted the way you want


  • #167
    STB.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    Jurgen Klopp wrote: »
    Ok quick settings question

    I want to turn off enable multiple bouquets so when I press EPG it automatically jumps to teh one channel list I've made

    However it defaults to Favourites if I do this

    Is there a way to mass copy my bouquet over to 5he favourites list as opposed to adding each channel manually?

    I need this for the mother and sister as even switching between bouquets will have my listening to moaning :(

    You should get yourself https://dreamboxedit.com/en/

    You can keep a master copy that you can flash (it back and forwards) to any e2 box over your lan. The masterlist can be updated with the kingofsat data with the click of a button, so will replace updated TPs and channels etc. Its also a channel editor.

    You'll never have to scan a channel again outside of the Saorview ones.

    449054.jpg


  • #168
    Jurgen Klopp
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,807 ✭✭✭Jurgen Klopp


    Thanks STB I actually use dream box edit after you rec it to me in another thread :)

    The kingsofsat data is exactly what was next on my list to find as the current DB master list has some out of date codes

    Now if there was a way to push a custom bouquet channel list specifically into the default Favourites list I'd be set

    I was pissing around a while ago. I originally sent my custom made bouquet to the box via dream box edit called it "MyFavs"

    All the channels are in it as one list. However if I wish to have that as the only list that comes I need to turn off "enable multiple bouquets" and "always show bouquets" this rids me of the hassle of a bouquet list coming up as each time I tap EPG it asks me to choose a bouquet from

    Astra 28
    Favourites
    MyFavs
    Last Scanned

    But when I set them to no the EPG always defaults to the default Favourites list and I obviously can't get at my custom list with settings off

    So I have got around that for now by adding my channels manually to the default Favourites and then I can leave the above bouquet settings to no and each time I press EPG I get my list

    My only problem is each time I update my custom list I'll have to readd the channels manually

    I'm wondering if I push an updated custom bouquet via dream box then maybe see if I can copy the channel data into the default Favourites via file zilla or something as opposed to moving a channel at a time


  • #169
    Gerry Wicklow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,558 ✭✭✭Gerry Wicklow


    Simply use dreamboxedit to put your choices into 'favourites'. As you've seen that is the one the box defaults to. You can put anything you like in there or even delete all the other bouquets if you don't need them. It doesn't have to have 'astra 28' and 'last scanned' is literally that. The list from the last TP(s) you scanned. Useful if making manual changes to 1 or 2 channels.


  • #170
    The high horse brigade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    You can also hide bouquets like last scanned to leave you with only a single bouquet. Last scanned is a system bouquet, it gets created automatically when you scan.


  • #171
    Jurgen Klopp
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,807 ✭✭✭Jurgen Klopp


    Thanks all I'll have a look again when I get a sit down.

    Is there any way to enable a pin code to delete recordings like sky?


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  • #172
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,467 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    where's best to pick one of these up? getting a bit tired of my AA2


  • #173
    UsedToWait
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,273 ✭✭✭UsedToWait


    lawred2 wrote: »
    where's best to pick one of these up? getting a bit tired of my AA2

    https://www.world-of-satellite.co.uk/tiviar-alpha-plus?filter_name=tiviar

    That's where I got mine..

    Very speedy dispatch, but be sure to have your billing details correct or they'll cancel the order

    (I used Parcel Wizard and just set billing address same as delivery address through laziness - saw someone earlier mention something similar)..


  • #174
    greasepalm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,475 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    My billing address differs from my delivery address as i am never there at that time and get it sent to my work address,they use dpd and 2 1/2 day delivery time.


  • #175
    UsedToWait
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,273 ✭✭✭UsedToWait


    greasepalm wrote: »
    My billing address differs from my delivery address as i am never there at that time and get it sent to my work address,they use dpd and 2 1/2 day delivery time.

    ^ They don't have to match, just to be correct..

    Minor point, but thought it worth mentioning - they just refunded me straight away, without contacting me to amend the details - had to reorder, then wait for the refund to come back to my Revolut (took nearly a week).


  • #176
    P.C
    Registered Users Posts: 13 ✭P.C


    I have a Sony TV with built in satellite tuner very good picture as for the picture on the the box is good but I think the the TV is sharper. I have gone through setting on the box any thoughts.


  • #177
    dendof
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 218 ✭✭dendof


    Quick question. I have an existing (unused) Sky dish. Is this box suitable for connecting to and recording Rte, BBC etc?


  • #178
    P.C
    Registered Users Posts: 13 ✭P.C


    dendof wrote: »
    Quick question. I have an existing (unused) Sky dish. Is this box suitable for connecting to and recording Rte, BBC etc?


    Yes it is for the UK free to air stations but you will need a TV aerial for the Irish stations.


  • #179
    Wisesmurf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,010 ✭✭✭Wisesmurf


    Any info on how this decodes iptv on the fly. I've been using linux boxes for years with vuplus variants and amiko alien.

    Amikos picture is vastly superior to any vu I've used but it doesn't handle iptv well in bouquets (vu is brilliant). I don't use xtreme tv.

    Fyi echanellIzer is vastly superior to dreambox edit.


  • #180
    dendof
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 218 ✭✭dendof


    P.C wrote: »
    Yes it is for the UK free to air stations but you will need a TV aerial for the Irish stations.

    Does this mean an aerial in the attic? A pair of rabbit ears will hardly do!


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  • #181
    P.C
    Registered Users Posts: 13 ✭P.C


    dendof wrote: »
    Does this mean an aerial in the attic? A pair of rabbit ears will hardly do!

    Hi dendof

    If you live near a TV transmitter may be a rabbit ears might do it not then aerial in the attic might be needed or mounted outside. Others may know more than me.


  • #182
    The high horse brigade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    dendof wrote: »
    Does this mean an aerial in the attic? A pair of rabbit ears will hardly do!

    This depends on where you are located. This site will tell you your nearest mast and distance.

    https://www.saorview.ie/en/get/coverage


  • #183
    dendof
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 218 ✭✭dendof


    The high horse brigade wrote: »
    This depends on where you are located. This site will tell you your nearest mast and distance.

    https://www.saorview.ie/en/get/coverage

    I'm 40km from nearest mast


  • #184
    The high horse brigade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    dendof wrote: »
    I'm 40km from nearest mast

    You will most likely need an outdoor aerial. If your house is facing the mast you may get away with an indoor one in the attic. You'll need a local installer to advise.


  • #185
    funkey_monkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,431 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    Hi, looking to purchase a STB for home and decision is between this and the Edision OS Mini.

    There seems to be a loot of setup work with the Tiviar box. Is it suitable for elderly users or would the Edision OS Mini be a better option?
    I've no need for a terrestial tuner.
    I like that the HDD is internal with the Tiviar, but other than that I've no real preference between the two. Any comments?


    Thanks.


  • #186
    The high horse brigade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    funkey_monkey wrote: »
    Hi, looking to purchase a STB for home and decision is between this and the Edision OS Mini.

    There seems to be a loot of setup work with the Tiviar box. Is it suitable for elderly users or would the Edision OS Mini be a better option?
    I've no need for a terrestial tuner.
    I like that the HDD is internal with the Tiviar, but other than that I've no real preference between the two. Any comments?


    Thanks.

    You'd be better with the Tiviar with the internal HDD. Both boxes run Enigma 2 and have identical amount of setting up, it's not the default OS for either box. There is a learning curve to Enigma on any box.

    The Tiviar is a triple tuner while the Edison has only 2x satellite. The Tiviar has a much faster CPU which will give smoother performance.


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  • #187
    JB81
    Registered Users Posts: 587 ✭✭✭JB81


    Just a quick question. I have the order ready to go on World of Satelite for this.
    The options when purchasing:

    USB Stick Storage - I assume this is not required? Its just a stick for recording if you dont have the HDD?

    USB Wifi Option - What is this? I have Wifi at home with 3. Do I need this option on the box?

    Networking Powerline Homeplugs - What are these and what do they do? Do I need them for the box to work?

    Thanks
    This thread is the reason I am making the purchase

    JB


  • #188
    JB81
    Registered Users Posts: 587 ✭✭✭JB81


    sugarman wrote: »
    Yeah thats it.



    If you want to use Wifi, yes. You need an additonal dongle for the box. It hasnt got wifi built in.



    These are if you want to use an Ethernet cable for internet, but your receiver is in another room than your router. Its uses the internal wiring of your house.

    Possibly a silly question, but what would I need Wifi for? Can it connect to BBC player, 3player etc...


  • #189
    funkey_monkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,431 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    The high horse brigade wrote: »
    You'd be better with the Tiviar with the internal HDD. Both boxes run Enigma 2 and have identical amount of setting up, it's not the default OS for either box. There is a learning curve to Enigma on any box.

    The Tiviar is a triple tuner while the Edison has only 2x satellite. The Tiviar has a much faster CPU which will give smoother performance.

    Do the boxes need to be kept on in order to receive updates?
    How stable are they?
    Can you set one receiver to be the main one for recordings?

    Thanks for the replies.


  • #190
    The high horse brigade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    JB81 wrote: »
    Possibly a silly question, but what would I need Wifi for? Can it connect to BBC player, 3player etc...

    There are many reasons to connect this device to your network. You can set timers, stream channels or stream recordings to your phone or laptop if the box is connected to your network. You can also use this box for IPTV streams which require internet connectivity.


  • #191
    The high horse brigade
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    funkey_monkey wrote: »
    Do the boxes need to be kept on in order to receive updates?
    How stable are they?
    Can you set one receiver to be the main one for recordings?

    Thanks for the replies.

    You can schedule updates to run while the box is on. I have a Harmony remote so I only use standby and never power of the devices beside my TV.

    Enigma on these boxes is very stable. There is a bit of a learning curve with Enigma but if you put the time into figuring it out you can setup a great system. Enigma selects the tuner not in use for recordings


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  • #192
    funkey_monkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,431 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    Enigma selects the tuner not in use for recordings
    One possible system I might implement is a Freesat input to one receiver and a diseqc input of Freesat/Saorsat to the second receiver.

    If the STB is using the receiver allocated to Freesat and I want to record a Freesat channel, can I set up the box so that it will always look to the Freesat only receiver first when initiating a recording? That way access to Saorsat will not be inhibited if the user decides to view Saorsat subsequent to the recording commencing.

    If I want to record Saorsat, it would look at the Freesat receiver, not find the channel, then search the second receiver and locate it there and use that receiver for the recording.

    I have been told on another thread that this is possible in the settings.


  • #193
    The high horse brigade
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    funkey_monkey wrote: »
    One possible system I might implement is a Freesat input to one receiver and a diseqc input of Freesat/Saorsat to the second receiver.

    If the STB is using the receiver allocated to Freesat and I want to record a Freesat channel, can I set up the box so that it will always look to the Freesat only receiver first when initiating a recording? That way access to Saorsat will not be inhibited if the user decides to view Saorsat subsequent to the recording commencing.

    If I want to record Saorsat, it would look at the Freesat receiver, not find the channel, then search the second receiver and locate it there and use that receiver for the recording.

    I have been told on another thread that this is possible in the settings.

    Yes, you have the option of setting the preferred tuner for recordings in recording settings


  • #194
    funkey_monkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,431 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    The high horse brigade wrote: »
    Yes, you have the option of setting the preferred tuner for recordings in recording settings

    Thanks for answering my questions - much appreciated.


  • #195
    MeTheMan
    Registered Users Posts: 527 ✭✭✭MeTheMan


    I'm not in a saorview covered area. Can you pick up saorsat on a sky dish?


  • #196
    The high horse brigade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    MeTheMan wrote: »
    I'm not in a saorview covered area. Can you pick up saorsat on a sky dish?

    Wrong thread. No is the answer. You need a much bigger dish and a different type of lnb on the dish.


  • #197
    FRIENDO
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,394 ✭✭✭FRIENDO


    MeTheMan wrote:
    I'm not in a saorview covered area. Can you pick up saorsat on a sky dish?


    The common dish supplied by sky installers No

    You need a solid dish type.
    For most of the Country you need an 80cm dish.
    For the South West parts of Kerry/Cork or North/East parts of North East Donegal and parts of the Six Counties, a 100cm dish would be recommended.

    Saorsat also uses a different LNB, you would need a Saorsat Ka LNBF

    Freetv.ie or freesat.ie Web site's can give you an idea on prices of equipment needed.

    Best to contact a local installer, installation and equipment is not to expensive.

    If you want to discuss more on this topic it would be best to start a new thread on Saorsat, lots of people will give advice, cheers.


  • #198
    JOSman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 500 ✭✭✭JOSman


    Sorry guys, does this box definitely have seven day EPG?


  • #199
    The high horse brigade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    JOSman wrote: »
    Sorry guys, does this box definitely have seven day EPG?

    Yes, Enigma 2 the software on this box has a plugin called CrossEPG that can decode the 7 day Sky EPG


  • #200
    JOSman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 500 ✭✭✭JOSman


    Thanks High Horse Brigade. Have a small place down the country and the box I have there is now/next which I really hate. To me epg is important.

    Thanks again J


  • #201
    greasepalm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,475 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    yes they do as i also have now and next on other boxes which i hate also.


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