Scrabble to ban the word "culchie" in America.

Pauliedragon · 10-07-2020 12:59pm #1

As the title says apparantly scrabble will ban culchie and other terms deemed offensive. How would yanks (maybe yank is now offensive sorry mods) know the word culchie or does it mean something different over there?
#culchielivesmatter

biko · 10-07-2020 1:06pm

But Jackeen is still allowed

JohnnyFlash · 10-07-2020 1:06pm

Mucksavage is far better.

Rodney Bathgate · 10-07-2020 1:07pm

What about mucker and mucksavage?

Rodney Bathgate · 10-07-2020 1:08pm

Bogwarrior?

Allinall · 10-07-2020 1:09pm

Pauliedragon wrote: »

As the title says apparantly scrabble will ban culchie and other terms deemed offensive. How would yanks (maybe yank is now offensive sorry mods) know the word culchie or does it mean something different over there?
#culchielivesmatter

They're wooden planks, OP.

Leg End Reject · 10-07-2020 1:11pm

I'm a culchie and it doesn't bother me, I'm just glad I'm not a bogger.

Ted_YNWA · 10-07-2020 1:23pm

Snowflake is on the list too.

joeguevara · 10-07-2020 1:26pm

Collins Dictionary says it is derived from an incorrect pronunciation of the Mayo town Kiltimagh, when in fact it is derived from the Irish word 'coillte' meaning woods.

Gregor Samsa · 10-07-2020 1:29pm

Here's the list of the words they're looking to ban from Scrabble competition. https://scrabbleplayers.org/w/Slurs

When I first read the list, I thought it was all in Welsh, but it turns out that bizarrely, they've written them all backwards so that innocent people won't accidentally read them! I guess that won't stop Scrabble nerds, though.

Sorry about that · 10-07-2020 1:30pm

Only culchies can call other culchies culchies.

KevRossi · 10-07-2020 1:33pm

Blueshirt?
Taig?
Lundy?
Westbrit?
FFer?
Shinner/Shinnerbot?

Hopefully the above are still allowed.

cj maxx · 10-07-2020 1:35pm

Pauliedragon wrote: »

As the title says apparantly scrabble will ban culchie and other terms deemed offensive. How would yanks (maybe yank is now offensive sorry mods) know the word culchie or does it mean something different over there?
#culchielivesmatter

Words with friends doesn't allow fag,jap and various other'offensive' words

siltirocker · 10-07-2020 2:08pm

biko wrote: »

But Jackeen is still allowed

If you're playing devil's advocate you could point out that one is true, the other isn't.

The etymology of a culchie is of people who live in the forest. 'Culchies' have never lived in trees. It's a slight implying they are uncultured or neatherthal. That's the origin.

'Jackeens' are Irish people, in the Dublin region, loyal to the crown. 'Little Jacks'. This term came from the fact that up until 100 years ago, the majority, the vast majority even, of the region was loyal to the crown.

It is not true that people from rural Ireland lived in the trees. It is true that people from the Dublin area were loyal to the crown.

EDIT: Before people crucify me, it's not a partisan view. Born in the Rotunda, typing this in Drumcondra.

10-07-2020 2:12pm

Culchie isnt a proper word,same as hollibops

Its outrage for sake of outrage,complaining about a boardgame based on spelling,banning a word that shouldnt exist

I assume they dont allow txt speak words either?

Gregor Samsa · 10-07-2020 2:22pm

siltirocker wrote: »

The etymology of a culchie is of people who live in the forest.

What you're repeatdely stating as fact doesn't seem to have that much authorative evidence behind it.

JohnnyFlash · 10-07-2020 2:29pm

siltirocker wrote: »

If you're playing devil's advocate you could point out that one is true, the other isn't.

The etymology of a culchie is of people who live in the forest. 'Culchies' have never lived in trees. It's a slight implying they are uncultured or neatherthal. That's the origin.

'Jackeens' are Irish people, in the Dublin region, loyal to the crown. 'Little Jacks'. This term came from the fact that up until 100 years ago, the majority, the vast majority even, of the region was loyal to the crown.

It is not true that people from rural Ireland lived in the trees. It is true that people from the Dublin area were loyal to the crown.

EDIT: Before people crucify me, it's not a partisan view. Born in the Rotunda, typing this in Drumcondra.

It’s like how the people of Cork seem to think the place is called the Rebel county because they stood up to the British during the war of independence. It isn’t.

It’s for their support of the House of York during the English civil war.

Metric Tensor · 10-07-2020 2:36pm

Gregor Samsa wrote: »

Here's the list of the words they're looking to ban from Scrabble competition. https://scrabbleplayers.org/w/Slurs

When I first read the list, I thought it was all in Welsh, but it turns out that bizarrely, they've written them all backwards so that innocent people won't accidentally read them! I guess that won't stop Scrabble nerds, though.

You have to play a game of countdown to figure out the words that are not allowed in scrabble!!!

Quantum Erasure · 10-07-2020 2:47pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Culchie isnt a proper word,same as hollibops

Its outrage for sake of outrage,complaining about a boardgame based on spelling,banning a word that shouldnt exist

I assume they dont allow txt speak words either?

But they are actual words, that are in the dictionary, that have been allowed , up till now.

About 430 of them, now blacklisted...

McGinniesta · 10-07-2020 3:18pm

I hear they're also trying to ban the term blowjob from their list.

https://www.npr.org/sections/live-updates-protests-for-racial-justice/2020/07/08/889246690/scrabble-association-bans-racial-ethnic-slurs-from-its-official-word-list?t=1594390717578

I fear that the lunatics are taking over the asylum

Harry Palmr · 10-07-2020 3:21pm

So what's going to happen if somehow by a miracle I have ULCHIE which I can add to a C? Are the cops going to crash through the front door with an arrest warrant?

You can't ban any word made up of individual letters.

siltirocker · 10-07-2020 3:24pm

Gregor Samsa wrote: »

What you're repeatdely stating as fact doesn't seem to have that much authorative evidence behind it.

A quick google highlights endless sources.

Have you another source of the term?

I would also question who is the authority of etymology of recent Irish colloquialisms?

Kylta · 10-07-2020 3:28pm

siltirocker wrote: »

If you're playing devil's advocate you could point out that one is true, the other isn't.

The etymology of a culchie is of people who live in the forest. 'Culchies' have never lived in trees. It's a slight implying they are uncultured or neatherthal. That's the origin.

'Jackeens' are Irish people, in the Dublin region, loyal to the crown. 'Little Jacks'. This term came from the fact that up until 100 years ago, the majority, the vast majority even, of the region was loyal to the crown.

It is not true that people from rural Ireland lived in the trees. It is true that people from the Dublin area were loyal to the crown.

EDIT: Before people crucify me, it's not a partisan view. Born in the Rotunda, typing this in Drumcondra.

Not all the people fromdublin were loyal to the crown. Are you in the bishops palace in drumcondra. Since your looking to be crucified

MOH · 10-07-2020 3:33pm

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

But they are actual words, that are in the dictionary, that have been allowed , up till now.

About 430 of them, now blacklisted...

A lot of the reporting on this has been a bit crap, like most reporting these days.

Most of the words in question were removed from the official Scrabble dictionary almost 30 years ago

There was an argument at the time that playing a word in a Scrabble game is divorced from it's meaning, and censoring legitimate words shouldn't be the job of the Scrabble community.

So as a compromise the "offending" words were removed from the official Scrabble dictionary but listed in an addendum still allowed in tournament play. That's the bit that's changing now - they'll no longer be allowed in tournaments.

Kylta · 10-07-2020 3:34pm

McGinniesta wrote: »

I hear they're also trying to ban the term blowjob from their list.

https://www.npr.org/sections/live-updates-protests-for-racial-justice/2020/07/08/889246690/scrabble-association-bans-racial-ethnic-slurs-from-its-official-word-list?t=1594390717578

I fear that the lunatics are taking over the asylum

Is gizzablowie still there?

endacl · 10-07-2020 3:35pm

Is ‘woolyback’ still ok?

joe40 · 10-07-2020 3:39pm

Harry Palmr wrote: »

So what's going to happen if somehow by a miracle I have ULCHIE which I can add to a C? Are the cops going to crash through the front door with an arrest warrant?

You can't ban any word made up of individual letters.

It looks like they're going to be banned from Scrabble competitions. I don't think a boardgame has the power to ban words.
I was playing last night with wife and daughter. There was a un open for adding to. I had a c and a t but I didn't have the heart to do it...

MOH · 10-07-2020 3:42pm

joe40 wrote: »

It looks like they're going to be banned from Scrabble competitions. I don't think a boardgame has the power to ban words.
I was playing last night with wife and daughter. There was a un open for adding to. I had a c and a t but I didn't have the heart to do it...

Why not? Tunc is a perfectly cromulent word. In Latin

Harry Palmr · 10-07-2020 3:43pm

joe40

I just played that very word online - 8 points. Not to be sneezed at!

joe40 · 10-07-2020 3:44pm

MOH wrote: »

Why not? Tunc is a perfectly cromulent word. In Latin

Now you tell me.

EmmetSpiceland · 10-07-2020 3:47pm

siltirocker wrote: »

The etymology of a culchie is of people who live in the forest. 'Culchies' have never lived in trees. It's a slight implying they are uncultured or neatherthal. That's the origin.

Is that right? I thought it was onomatopoeia, as in it was thought to be similar to the “squelching” sound of when the country folk chewed on turf.

gourcuff · 10-07-2020 3:52pm

if they ban that, then they have to ban 'howiya' for dubs, equally as classist as culchie... scrabble have stirred up a hornets nest here...

10-07-2020 3:53pm

MOH wrote: »

A lot of the reporting on this has been a bit crap, like most reporting these days.

Most of the words in question were removed from the official Scrabble dictionary almost 30 years ago

There was an argument at the time that playing a word in a Scrabble game is divorced from it's meaning, and censoring legitimate words shouldn't be the job of the Scrabble community.

So as a compromise the "offending" words were removed from the official Scrabble dictionary but listed in an addendum still allowed in tournament play. That's the bit that's changing now - they'll no longer be allowed in tournaments.

Theres scrabble tournaments??

Kylta · 10-07-2020 4:07pm

endacl wrote: »

Is ‘woolyback’ still ok?

Yeah she's grand, she didn't fall far enough to break her neck. I guess old nick doesn't want to hear her moaning and nagging. Oh sorry I though your were asking after the ex-wife my apologises

Quantum Erasure · 10-07-2020 4:14pm

MOH wrote: »

A lot of the reporting on this has been a bit crap, like most reporting these days.

So as a compromise the "offending" words were removed from the official Scrabble dictionary but listed in an addendum still allowed in tournament play. That's the bit that's changing now - they'll no longer be allowed in tournaments.

Amounts to the same thing, really

Also, seen down the bottom of the list what I presume is 'pissant', I thought this was a valid term for a species of ant?

Sonics2k · 10-07-2020 4:21pm

Was shocked to see 'gullible' was on the list too.

partyguinness · 10-07-2020 4:22pm

"I would rather be a culchie than a Dub.."

Itssoeasy · 10-07-2020 4:28pm

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

It’s like how the people of Cork seem to think the place is called the Rebel county because they stood up to the British during the war of independence. It isn’t.

It’s for their support of the House of York during the English civil war.

Never let the truth get in the way of a good yarn.

ShatterAlan · 10-07-2020 4:50pm

siltirocker wrote: »

If you're playing devil's advocate you could point out that one is true, the other isn't.

The etymology of a culchie is of people who live in the forest. 'Culchies' have never lived in trees. It's a slight implying they are uncultured or neatherthal. That's the origin.

'Jackeens' are Irish people, in the Dublin region, loyal to the crown. 'Little Jacks'. This term came from the fact that up until 100 years ago, the majority, the vast majority even, of the region was loyal to the crown.

It is not true that people from rural Ireland lived in the trees. It is true that people from the Dublin area were loyal to the crown.

EDIT: Before people crucify me, it's not a partisan view. Born in the Rotunda, typing this in Drumcondra.

Drumcondra? That's da bleedin' country ya fcukin' culchie.

ShatterAlan · 10-07-2020 4:53pm

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

It’s like how the people of Cork seem to think the place is called the Rebel county because they stood up to the British during the war of independence. It isn’t.

It’s for their support of the House of York during the English civil war.

Is that a fact?

Kylta · 10-07-2020 5:14pm

partyguinness wrote: »

"I would rather be a culchie than a Dub.."

So your a culchie, but I can't understand why you didn't say I'm proud to be a culchie. You didn't need to put the dub bit in. Its sounds that you're inferior to the dubs with that statement. I'm a true blue because I was born between the canals and I'm proud of it. And I didn't have to mention anything about culchie. Stand up and be proud to be were you're from.

Kylta · 10-07-2020 5:16pm

partyguinness wrote: »

"I would rather be a culchie than a Dub.."

What part of the countryside do you hail from?

sligojoek · 10-07-2020 5:44pm

A teacher in school years ago told us that "Culchie" came from the word agricultural.

Church on Tuesday · 10-07-2020 5:53pm

I'm Triggered.

Ultima Thule · 10-07-2020 6:00pm

Dont trigger the leprechauns

Kylta · 10-07-2020 6:21pm

Leg End Reject wrote: »

I'm a culchie and it doesn't bother me, I'm just glad I'm not a bogger.

Whats the difference?

Deadmou5e · 10-07-2020 6:24pm

Kylta wrote: »

Whats the difference?

One foots their own turf, the other buys in it.

Leg End Reject · 10-07-2020 6:27pm

Deadmou5e wrote: »

One foots their own turf, the other buys in it.

Or another way to put it is that a culchie lives in an urban area outside Dublin, while a bogger lives in a rural one. Bonus bogger points if you're farming stock.

It's not really a serious thing though.

andekwarhola · 10-07-2020 6:28pm

I prefer Mullah/Mullagh myself

Deadmou5e · 10-07-2020 6:30pm

Leg End Reject wrote: »

Or another way to put it is that a culchie lives in an urban area outside Dublin, while a bogger lives in a rural one. Bonus bogger points if you're farming stock.

It's not really a serious thing though.

I was only joking btw! I’m from North Kerry so I’ve been called both most my whole life

Kylta · 10-07-2020 6:30pm

Leg End Reject wrote: »

Or another way to put it is that a culchie lives in an urban area outside Dublin, while a bogger lives in a rural one. Bonus bogger points if you're farming stock.

It's not really a serious thing though.

So what your saying is you lot discriminate against each other. What's worse than a bogger?

Scrabble to ban the word "culchie" in America.

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