Insuring electric converted classic car

s_o_s · 06-12-2018 10:32pm

Seweryn wrote: »

There are no alternative fuels to heavy transportation (trucks, tractors, ships, planes...)

This is somehow missing trains, many of which are electric and have been for years. If many countries around the world trains are a large contributor to freight. Electric heavy duty trucks are coming in two or three years, and claim to be cheaper to run than diesels. If this turns out to be true, the industry will flip to electric faster than you can blink if it means saving money.

Seweryn · 06-12-2018 11:21pm

s_o_s wrote: »

This is somehow missing trains, many of which are electric and have been for years. If many countries around the world trains are a large contributor to freight.

That's true. Trains are (and will be even more in the future) important players in transport infrastructure. Except the US which is based mainly on road transport powered by liquid fuels.

s_o_s wrote: »

Electric heavy duty trucks are coming in two or three years, and claim to be cheaper to run than diesels. If this turns out to be true, the industry will flip to electric faster than you can blink if it means saving money.

That is not going to happen for many reasons (not on a large scale anyway) regardless of what the official media tells us.

hi5 · 07-12-2018 1:54pm

This US company do kits for classics, mostly aircooled VW's.

http://evwest.com/catalog/

unkel · 07-12-2018 2:31pm

Eye watering parts prices :eek:

Seweryn · 07-12-2018 2:38pm

unkel wrote: »

Eye watering parts prices :eek:

Yep, you need to budget about 15 - 20k for the job.

unkel · 07-12-2018 2:43pm

Damien Maguire bought a BMW 3-series and converted it to EV, total spent under a grand

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkg8Rk-aP4U

Del2005 · 07-12-2018 2:58pm

s_o_s wrote: »

This is somehow missing trains, many of which are electric and have been for years. If many countries around the world trains are a large contributor to freight. Electric heavy duty trucks are coming in two or three years, and claim to be cheaper to run than diesels. If this turns out to be true, the industry will flip to electric faster than you can blink if it means saving money.

Everything starts or ends its journey on a truck though. And we've been promised a lot of new technology in 2 or 3 years for decades, so until the tech is released and in regular use its just a money eating exercise like Tesla or self driving.

Dades · 07-12-2018 3:27pm

Came across this article today.
https://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/hybrid-electric/a25422766/aston-martin-heritage-ev/

Electric Astons. Hmmm.

unkel · 07-12-2018 4:03pm

And I'm sure you're all familiar with the classic Jaguar E-type electric vehicle that Prince Harry drove on his wedding day earlier this year

Max Headroom · 07-12-2018 5:07pm

unkel wrote: »

And I'm sure you're all familiar with the classic Jaguar E-type electric vehicle that Prince Harry drove on his wedding day earlier this year

Thats just wrong on so many levels...is it a kit car..or a real(teary eyes) e-type...??

Seweryn · 07-12-2018 7:25pm

unkel wrote: »

Damien Maguire bought a BMW 3-series and converted it to EV, total spent under a grand

This is achievable going the most environmentally friendly route by re-using a lot of components including the motor :cool:.

unkel · 07-12-2018 9:44pm

Max Headroom wrote: »

is it a kit car..or a real(teary eyes) e-type...??

Real E-type. Made by Jaguar itself. The one Harry drove is the first one, the prototype, but Jaguar will start production of the "E-type Zero" and you can order one for delivery in 2020. Yours for about GBP300k

unkel · 07-12-2018 9:52pm

Seweryn wrote: »

This is achievable going the most environmentally friendly route by re-using a lot of components including the motor :cool:.

And the car was end of life with something like 350k miles on the engine that would barely run. Reduce (no more using diesel), re-use (the car itself) and recycle (the motor, the batteries, etc.)

Seweryn · 07-12-2018 10:03pm

unkel wrote: »

And the car was end of life with something like 350k miles on the engine that would barely run. Reduce (no more using diesel), re-use (the car itself) and recycle (the motor, the batteries, etc.)

Yeah, sounds like an ultimate pro-environment movement. Should he be awarded by our government for commitment towards reducing global CO2 emissions? Ah...,no, we have a scheme that allows scrapping a good car and getting a discount when buying another one (yest, this is legal).
Madness...

Dades · 08-12-2018 12:28am

unkel wrote: »

And the car was end of life with something like 350k miles on the engine that would barely run.

I'm sure there was an E-type somewhere with a decent engine whose body and chassis were end of life!

Seweryn wrote: »

Yeah, sounds like an ultimate pro-environment movement. Should he be awarded by our government for commitment towards reducing global CO2 emissions? Ah...,no, we have a scheme that allows scrapping a good car and getting a discount when buying another one (yest, this is legal).
Madness...

But yeah, our government standing by while perfect 15-20 year old cars are scrapped for no reason other than appeasing the motor trade and filling he coffers is a disgrace. And environmentally bollox.

unkel · 08-12-2018 12:56am

Dades wrote: »

But yeah, our government standing by while perfect 15-20 year old cars are scrapped for no reason other than appeasing the motor trade and filling he coffers is a disgrace. And environmentally bollox.

Couldn't agree more. What's the worst is that almost always a perfectly fine elderly petrol car was scrapped and replaced with a cancer causing brand new diesel :mad:

gctest50 · 08-12-2018 1:05am

Max Headroom wrote: »

Thats just wrong on so many levels...is it a kit car..or a real(teary eyes) e-type...??

c'mon, it's not like you got the hacksaw to an XKss ?

gctest50 · 08-12-2018 1:57am

Aston Martin are making "reversible" leccy conversions for older Astons :

https://media.astonmartin.com/aston-martin-works-create-first-reversible-ev-powertrain-concept/

05 December 2018, Newport Pagnell: With interest in classic cars growing every year and values of heritage models at an all time high, Aston Martin Lagonda has pioneered a bold new plan: to future-proof these increasingly precious machines by creating the world’s first reversible EV powertrain conversion.

unkel · 08-12-2018 2:19am

I should have added that Jaguar can also revert the E-type back to petrol easily enough. Not that any owner would ever want that though.

Max Headroom · 08-12-2018 9:49am

unkel wrote: »

I should have added that Jaguar can also revert the E-type back to petrol easily enough. Not that any owner would ever want that though.

One gets one's oily handed employee to perform the task......:P

marcos_94 · 17-09-2019 5:31pm

Seweryn wrote: »

No, that is not true. The efficiency of generating power in a power plant is comparable with efficiency of a Diesel engine. Then you need to ad on the loses with transforming electricity and transporting it through the grid, etc.

Let's focus on driving experience so. I love electric engines and electric drives for a few reasons. Electric motors are the most suitable type of engines to move a car. They don't need gearboxes, have about one moving part so are very simple and convert about 90% of electricity into motion with excellent torque characteristics. They are also very quiet.

Good luck with the project.

I know that this will probably be unseen but Seweryn, you are incredibly misinformed on EVs, and generation. I have a classic car myself, and dont particularly want an EV any time soon, but your spreading of misinformation is incredible. To start, the efficiency of a diesel engine is approximately 30-35%. similar to a coal plant. But, the modern world is tending away from coal. What about gas? Well the efficiency of gas turbines is approximately 62%.

Now, onto the life cycle emissions of vehicles, have a read of this article: https://www.transportenvironment.org/press/electric-cars-emit-less-co2-over-their-lifetime-diesels-even-when-powered-dirtiest-electricity

The summary of the study discusssed in the article can be found here:
https://www.transportenvironment.org/sites/te/files/publications/2017_10_EV_LCA_briefing_final.pdf

kev1.3s · 28-06-2020 12:38pm

Just watched this fulvia's transformation on vintage voltage and although not for me it looks like an excellent conversion. Best of luck with it OP

galwaytt · 29-06-2020 11:47am

Dades wrote: »

But yeah, our government standing by while perfect 15-20 year old cars are scrapped for no reason other than appeasing the motor trade and filling he coffers is a disgrace. And environmentally bollox.

I was standing looking at an 'abandoned' 03 S-Class (petrol, air suspension) only last week and thought what a waste. The only reason it got 'abandoned' is because PSV wouldn't pass it due to it's age.

What a complete toss up - that car cost as much as a house at one point - and chucking it in the bin is an affront to anyone with a bit of decency on 'waste'.

Reduce, Reuse, Recycle my Ar4e. The GP pay only lip service to it.

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