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Boards Golf Society - Esker Hills GC May 18th 11.30am

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,159 ✭✭✭benny79


    Do they let 3 balls out benny ?

    Yeah, Esker Hills are really one of the nicest people about! They go out of there way to help you! So all's good.

    Have you played it before Fix? Its a smashing course! And for me just like The European when the staff are so nice & friendly it adds to it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 702 ✭✭✭Golfhead65


    Only played it once, but I remember the first few holes at least.

    First hole dogleg right, can cut the corner with a decent hit or lay up for safety.

    Second hole aim left over the trees and you can nearly drive the green if you catch the down slope.

    Third hole is a hard dogleg left, best to play middle to right to avoid being cut off.

    Fourth hold, oh man now it gets interesting. Difficult window to hit on a dogleg right. Don't be like me and drive it OB left as all the left side is OB. A solid drive with a nice fade will be best (like my provo!)

    Fifth hole, easy to go long on this downhill par 3, and long is wet. At least one club less here, two if you want to be extra safe. I hit it a bit thin and was wet.

    Six, going to be a tough go for reaching in two, would say plan for not going for it unless you a big hitter with a good drive.

    Seven, nice hole just drive it well and dont go left...or right.

    Eight has a tight window for driver, but if you have a good fade you could put it close. If not then aim to put it just right of the big tree and you will have a good look at the green. I drove it close and then fluffed 3 chips. Don't do that.

    I can't recall the exact details of the holes after that, best of luck!

    9th is uphill par 3 with difficult green,everything goes to right, 10th is short par 4 with water in front and big hitters can't resist going for it but it's a card wrecker, Lay up 5iron off tee SW to green,11th is good par 4 requires longish drive to see green for 2nd shot, 12th is downhill tee shot then all uphill to a nasty back to front sloping green, slightly short and you are rolling back 30 yds,slightly big and it's hard to keep ball on green with your chip, 13 is a great Par 3 all carry to large slopped green, short of pin is good here, 14 is another great par 4 with fairway in a bowl, easiest to hit but take extra club for your 2nd shot as it's uphill, 15 is another par 3, Thinking 8 iron take 7 etc..16 is a dogleg left par 5,again big hitters can cut corner but be careful as more left you aim brings in trees in farmyard left , 17 is a dogleg left Par 4 and there is no gain from trying to cut corner as small trees stretch out further than you think and you will get caught up.left half of fairway is good leaving 140-150 uphill to well protected green, 18 is good par 4, Bunker left catches a lot of drives so err on right half of fairway, again uphill approach to green so 1 more club might suffice, Enjoy lads great course and going mad I'm missing it for a communion


  • Registered Users Posts: 8 timgolfer


    Hi Benny , I accepted on Teamer but didn’t seem my name on the time sheet? Looks like a smashing course don’t want to miss this 1. Any room for me? Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,159 ✭✭✭benny79


    timgolfer wrote: »
    Hi Benny , I accepted on Teamer but didn’t seem my name on the time sheet? Looks like a smashing course don’t want to miss this 1. Any room for me? Thanks
    You're out at 11.30 may want to get the eyesight checked :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 8 timgolfer


    benny79 wrote: »
    You're out at 11.30 may want to get the eyesight checked :D

    😂 my bad. On my phone is shows up all 3 balls , until I scroll over. Hopefully my golf will be better than my computer skills!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,637 ✭✭✭spacecoyote


    timgolfer wrote: »
    �� my bad. On my phone is shows up all 3 balls , until I scroll over. Hopefully my golf will be better than my computer skills!

    I had the exact same problem when I first checked the list on my phone :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,204 ✭✭✭woodyg


    I had the exact same problem when I first checked the list on my phone :D

    same here :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭BigChap1759


    Lads is there a driving range at Esker, can't remember??


  • Registered Users Posts: 11 Asimo1


    Lads is there a driving range at Esker, can't remember??

    No only a putting green.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,997 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    benny79 wrote: »
    Yeah, Esker Hills are really one of the nicest people about! They go out of there way to help you! So all's good.

    Have you played it before Fix? Its a smashing course! And for me just like The European when the staff are so nice & friendly it adds to it!

    Have benny, have played it about 5 times - class course.

    I find it tough, think I have only had about 32/33 pts - but I love the changes in direction and elevation on the course. the raised greens on some of the holes make it a tough test

    Love the clubhouse too - just about the craic and the golf. Sound people there.
    You can see were Lowry gets the game and personality.

    Its a tough enough walk - I might lay off the pints tonight - a few glasses of red.

    See all tomorrow -

    1st hole is a bit perplexing - first time out used a driver and drove it over the back fence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,997 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    was looking at old thread there and the early days of the society. (6 and 7 years ago)

    Only wish i could hit a ball like that now - but gives a good overview of the first hole dilemma
    In relation to the committee meeting all voices are heard its not a closed shop and open to everyone so no one would of told you to sling your hook :D

    Now onto the business end of things your drive off the first tee ,

    I reckon you were about 280 yard of a carry on that first tee and you went flying into the bushes from the tee , it was a monster of a drive

    242391.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,997 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    has to be a shortcut on that first hole , if you were a member ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,637 ✭✭✭spacecoyote


    has to be a shortcut on that first hole , if you were a member ?

    Just checked my gamegolf from 2016. Looks like you want to max out at around 230 from the society tees to leave you at the corner.

    Looks like I started fairly well that time, but it didn't last long, wheels came off on the 4th and never really came back on :D

    Just a couple of quiet crafty ones for me this evening


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,997 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    Just checked my gamegolf from 2016. Looks like you want to max out at around 230 from the society tees to leave you at the corner.

    Looks like I started fairly well that time, but it didn't last long, wheels came off on the 4th and never really came back on :D

    Just a couple of quiet crafty ones for me this evening

    suppose that is it

    230 is kind of an odd distance to hit.

    In theory a 3 wood.

    Sliced drive will do :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,637 ✭✭✭spacecoyote


    suppose that is it

    230 is kind of an odd distance to hit.

    In theory a 3 wood.

    Sliced drive will do :D

    That's only about a 5-iron for you I thought Fix? :)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 292 ✭✭princess poppy


    Hope you have a great day, not happy to be missing this one


  • Registered Users Posts: 538 ✭✭✭Young_gunner


    Have a super day lads! Hope the sun stays out


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,159 ✭✭✭benny79


    Results for today

    1st - OS_head 43 pts

    2nd - Slave1 37pts

    3rd - Ballyman 37pts

    NP - Bigchap1759 LD - Doublecross

    There was 1 two's won by Bigchap1759


    Hope you all enjoyed full results be done during the week.

    See yea all at next outing in Thurles GC on 15th June @ 11.00am.

    Regards

    Benny79


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,195 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Being local enough to Esker I had an advantage of knowing my way around but I still managed to find the long grass a few times and still learning the breaks and speeds of the various greens. Faultless company yesterday so the 5hr round was pure joy and the weather played it’s part, windy but shorts and the single layer for sure. Ballyman is the sneakiest long off the tee I’ve seen in quite a while, love to gain the run out he gets. The course was in as good a condition as I’ve ever seen it, with not that many members it shows on the weekend as I don’t think I saw any divots and the greens were pretty much pitch mark free. Christy O’ Conner’s trademark massive greens in full action from the get go. Thanks to Benny and all behind the scenes, looking forward to meeting more Boardies soon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,424 ✭✭✭✭Rikand


    charlieIRL wrote: »
    There is a small putting green behind the clubhouse and a chipping green beside the 18th green.
    Nearest range would be in Rahan (think it might be called Tullbeg, I haven’t been there in years) I’ll go around that way before Saturday and let ye know what it’s like.

    All of us who’ve played the course a good few times aren’t playing Saturday so am I recommend provisional balls be played on a few blind holes. Might speed things up. It’s not an easy course (unless you play like Rikand!! 2 over gross??)

    Its nice that that round is still remembered. I played great that day :)


    Super scoring from OS_head. That is not an easy golf course. Slave representing the Athlone contingent admirably!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,637 ✭✭✭spacecoyote


    Another good day out with Boards, even if the golf wasn't up to scratch.

    Had the company of BigEasy & RoadRunner, two old adversaries of mine :D

    We started as we meant to go on, with 3 scratches on the opening hole! From there it was a tit-for-tat first 9 battle to bring to take a massive lead. I managed to do so, simultaneously being the first man to hit double digits, on the 9th hole, for a mighty 10 points. The pressure was on to push on for the win.

    Followed up my triumphant 9th hole jump in to the lead with an atrocious scratch on the short par 4 10th. A 6-iron in my hand, I proceeded to hit my tee shot out of bounds, and follow it up sticking my 3rd off the tee under the trees. Dumped my 4th shot into the water to fully cap off an appalling effort.

    From there I pulled myself together a bit & hit some solid shots. to play the last 8 in level 2s for a mighty total of 26 points.

    Hit a lot of really poor shots, and putted quite poorly overall, in particular hit way too many aggressive first putts leaving long 2nd shots in.

    93 Strokes
    57% FIR
    44% GIR
    39 putts (1 1-putt, 13 2-putts, 4 3-putts)

    Gave up 8 penalty strokes to the course, which was a little bit costly.

    Beyond all of that, its a lovely course and we got a great day for it. From what I can gather it was a murky cool day in Dublin, we had the sunscreen on in Esker.

    The 2 lads were great company. Forward tees were probably most costly to RoadRunner. When he took 4-iron off the tee he hit a lot of perfect low draws in to good spots on the fairways. Driver was too much club for him on most holes. Highlight was his eagle on the (very slightly) shortened 16th. A wild drive, followed by a wedge to about 1ft which he duly converted with ease.

    BigEasy was striking his woods & irons well most of the day but was showing the short game rust of a man who hasn't been playing much golf recently. He did show an exceptional talent for knocking bladed chips in a lot closer than they probably deserved (I wish I had that gift!!!) :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 27 Rainbow Warrior


    I was lucky enough to play with Doublecross (LD winner) Slave1 (2nd place) and Ballyman (3rd place) so it was a pleasure guys to be on the round with you. It is a truly magnificent course and I can't wait to play it again soon as I'm lucky enough to be only 45 mins from it. Thanks Benny and committee for organising a superb course for us to play on and for yet again sorting out the weather!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 813 ✭✭✭SEORG


    Another great day out. The weather and course were worth the drive. Capt Benny is playing a blinder!

    It was my first time playing the course, it's definitely one you need to plot your way around.

    Lucky I played with Macker1, ballyk & Timgolfer who are great company and were able to give me a line off the tee. I drove the ball ok but my iron play wasn't great. I found the greens a bit slower than what they looked but they were in excellent condition.

    A steady start turned into a run of 1 pointers that led to 14 pts on the front 9.
    Then came the 10th, I had to have a go.....I don't get the chance to drive a par 4 very often.....onto the little island, penalty drop...bogey.....story of my day really.

    Finished with 26 pts (I think).

    Really enjoying the society, joining is one of my best golfing decisons of 2019 so far.

    Hopefully I can make Thurles.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,997 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    In Druids Glen here - what a few days of Golf.

    Love Esker Hills - If , If I struggle around it. Changed a few things in my game and was not ready for such a test.

    Still had a great day with Break 80 and Benny 79 - two lads that love the game with similar user name ambitions.

    It was clear from the first few minutes it was going to be a long day - there were simply too many groups out on the course and too tight together. Yes society golf is going to be slower - but 5 hours plus. :eek:

    It kind of gave us a bit more time to chat - poor Break 80 , I never shut up and Benny's stories are seriously epic , but not for the faint hearted, and not a story to hear just as you take on a lightning down hill sidewinder :p:D. You can get a bit of rush of blood to the head with some of his tales.

    But again Benny - outstanding stuff to be there marking names off - getting everyone away - money - planning - prizes - drop outs.

    Did I hear someone got a 2 and didn't enter 2s - didn't know we had more Scottish in the society :p:D

    I know scoring was poor enough - but not sure it is a course that you should play forward - it adds nothing and is damaging to too many of the holes. I'm normally a fan of forward.

    Fair play to Ballyk having cards done as we got in - as many had to hit the road after such a long day.

    Hopefully catch one or two more outings / captains day.

    Played better today - but still searching for a golf game that seems to be lost down some country road / or bunker in Scotland.

    By the way, epic scoring again by winner - we expect a blow by blow and a serious cut :p

    As benny says - it is about being positive and good things happen.

    Keep it up all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭BigChap1759


    Easy with the casual racism Fix!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,997 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    Easy with the casual racism Fix!

    :D


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,195 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    SEORG wrote: »
    ....

    Really enjoying the society, joining is one of my best golfing decisons of 2019 so far.

    Hopefully I can make Thurles.

    +1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,159 ✭✭✭benny79


    benny79 wrote: »
    Results for today

    1st - OS_head 43 pts

    2nd - Slave1 37pts

    3rd - Ballyman 37pts

    NP - Bigchap1759 LD - Doublecross

    There was 1 two's won by Bigchap1759


    Hope you all enjoyed full results be done during the week.

    See yea all at next outing in Thurles GC on 15th June @ 11.00am.

    Regards

    Benny79

    Just a update on the results

    Pakman had a 2 as well.. I blame who ever marked his card! Looks like a 7 :D

    I try get the full results up tomorrow.


  • Registered Users Posts: 300 ✭✭pakman


    benny79 wrote: »
    Just a update on the results

    Pakman had a 2 as well.. I blame who ever marked his card! Looks like a 7 :D

    I try get the full results up tomorrow.

    Understandable. A 7 is not out of place on a par 3 for me usually :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,833 ✭✭✭Golfgraffix


    Sorry I missed it sounds like a great day.

    Some shooting by OS Head. With a score like that and off a new club handicap you really should send your card to your handicap sec, I’m sure Benny can post it in for you.

    J


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,070 ✭✭✭✭Seve OB


    Sorry I missed it sounds like a great day.

    Some shooting by OS Head. With a score like that and off a new club handicap you really should send your card to your handicap sec, I’m sure Benny can post it in for you.

    J

    something I used to do when I was off a high handicap back in the day.
    was a nice way to get the cuts in


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,968 ✭✭✭RoadRunner


    Had a great day and really enjoyed the course and the company with thebigeasy and spacecoyote. Weather was perfect. Round was slow.
    No aspect of my game was in good form, despite this I still attempted to force stuff. I seem to play boards games differently. Ultra agressive, even more so then normal. I need to deal it back slightly and start playing a little more clever. I'm not able to play for the next few weeks. So this will be my last time out on the course for a bit sadly. Thanks again to captain for organizing. Apols had to run off afterwards so quickly.


  • Registered Users Posts: 37 onthesod


    Sorry lads I missed it. Smallest chiseller had the vomiting bug Fri Night/Sat Morn so I was under house arrest :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,997 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    Sorry I missed it sounds like a great day.

    Some shooting by OS Head. With a score like that and off a new club handicap you really should send your card to your handicap sec, I’m sure Benny can post it in for you.

    J

    Would that be a bit fool hardy with no css and from very forward tees at a society outing ?

    What would sec do ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 125 ✭✭OS_Head


    Would that be a bit fool hardy with no css and from very forward tees at a society outing ?

    What would sec do ?

    I could ask, but for the reasons you've stated, they probably wouldn't be able to accept it. It'd be nice though...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭paulos53


    Technically everybody who plays in a society event is supposed to report the score (good or bad) and SSS to their home club.

    Of course hardly anybody actually does this


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,195 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    I've ran societies in the past and was point blankly told by comp secretaries to not waste their time by returning society scorecards because they need a properly calculated CSS to do anything, and properly calculated is not as easy as you think, you need a minimum number of players (21/22 is in my head but not sure) then clause 19, were they playing off their official handicap etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,070 ✭✭✭✭Seve OB


    slave1 wrote: »
    I've ran societies in the past and was point blankly told by comp secretaries to not waste their time by returning society scorecards because they need a properly calculated CSS to do anything, and properly calculated is not as easy as you think, you need a minimum number of players (21/22 is in my head but not sure) then clause 19, were they playing off their official handicap etc.

    yea... but!!

    a really good score like that can merit a reduction in a (especially new) handicap on observation alone & if the handicap secretary in the players club is worth his salt, he will facilitate it.

    I've gotten a good few reductions in the past like this.

    would agree it is not worth doing to get .1 back.



    This whole lark will get interesting next year when we have a worldwide handicap system :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,637 ✭✭✭spacecoyote


    Seve OB wrote: »
    yea... but!!

    a really good score like that can merit a reduction in a (especially new) handicap on observation alone & if the handicap secretary in the players club is worth his salt, he will facilitate it.

    I've gotten a good few reductions in the past like this.

    would agree it is not worth doing to get .1 back.



    This whole lark will get interesting next year when we have a worldwide handicap system :D

    For the worldwide handicap thing, I know that it is closer to the US model. In the US they will include casual golf for handicap purposes as far as I know.

    Assume that this wont be the case here, only qualifying comps?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭gypsy79


    I think that this will be more relevant under new handicap system


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,070 ✭✭✭✭Seve OB


    For the worldwide handicap thing, I know that it is closer to the US model. In the US they will include casual golf for handicap purposes as far as I know.

    Assume that this wont be the case here, only qualifying comps?

    the thing is we are just not sure yet.
    AFAIK, I think we will be able to declare the round before going out, but nothing definite yet.

    anyway that's just dragging the thread OT so lets discuss it another day when there is more news about how it will work


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,070 ✭✭✭✭Seve OB


    Sorry for delay guys in getting these posted, have had a lot on personally over the last week or so

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 125 ✭✭OS_Head


    Seve OB wrote: »
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    Hey Steve. I was playing off 22 that day. Due to my GUI being cut the day before. So my boards handicap is probably 19.5 now instead of 20.5.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,070 ✭✭✭✭Seve OB


    OS_Head wrote: »
    Hey Steve. I was playing off 22 that day. Due to my GUI being cut the day before. So my boards handicap is probably 19.5 now instead of 20.5.
    what is your exact gui now?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 125 ✭✭OS_Head


    Seve OB wrote: »
    what is your exact gui now?

    Got another cut at the end of last week. So my exact GUI is currently 19.5.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 409 ✭✭Poker Face


    Would that be a bit fool hardy with no css and from very forward tees at a society outing ?

    What would sec do ?

    All scores from society outings are supposed to be sent back to clubs for HC Sec to review.

    https://www.golfnet.ie/SiteAssets/Lists/News%20Listing/AllItems/KEY%20POINTS%20FOR%20HANDICAP%20COMMITTEE%20%20Revised%202019%20C.pdf

    8 (b)Non Qualifying Scores.-4 Balls/ Scrambles/Classics/Societies–Relevant clauses are at (4.5(b), page23),(8.10 + 8.12, page28),(23.7 IrelandNote-page55).Direction from Union to report NQ Scores for immediate consideration/action for General Play Adjustment(Except Category 1 players).NB: In Ireland Players and Clubsmustreport Non-Qualifying scores to Home Clubs-see 8.12page28.GPA adjustment based on Nett Diff, with Clause 19 adjustment if necessaary and SSS. This is a GPA and cannot take effect until the player is notified personally-agreed method, 23.5page53). Players who fail to comply with their obligations or responsibilities may be dealt with under Clause 24.1 page59.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,997 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    That's a bit crazy

    Societies play from daft tees . Don't have a relevant quorum of golfers for calculation purposes.
    One society I'm in has handicaps of 36, guys that don't play golf and a drop rule not even in R&A rules , but R&A kind of using it now :D

    You can give a card from a society if you can get it. But not sure what a secretary could do with it without more data from the competition.

    You'd be a right plonker going around asking what your net differential was to a society captain . As he drinks his fifth pint and regales about his 9 on the short par 3 and his night out in vilamoura the night before.

    So anyway . Nobody does it, or if they do, they need to forget about it for the sanity of all involved including themselves.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 125 ✭✭OS_Head


    I asked the Pro in Elmgreen and he could not see any way an exceptional score in Society play, could be used to calculate a GUI handicap. Without a CSS, calculations cannot be made. But he did refer me on to the guy who looks after it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,997 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    OS_Head wrote: »
    I asked the Pro in Elmgreen and he could not see any way an exceptional score in Society play, could be used to calculate a GUI handicap. Without a CSS, calculations cannot be made. But he did refer me on to the guy who looks after it.

    Good stuff and congrats on fast drops.

    Did you ever have a GUI handicap before .

    Savage front 9 ?

    Just round of life ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 125 ✭✭OS_Head


    Good stuff and congrats on fast drops.

    Did you ever have a GUI handicap before .

    Savage front 9 ?

    Just round of life ?

    Fast drops??? Don't know what that means... No just got my handicap around a day before Portmarnock. Thanks, don't remember much about first 9. Except mostly the tee shots and nothing seemed too difficult or out of range. First time I ever felt like that on a course. Scratched the 10th though. :rolleyes:


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