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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Waze works for me, because I use it, when I don't know where I am, or going to and is much more informative than Google Maps. I'm not really interested in time savings.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,638 ✭✭✭zilog_jones


    ironclaw wrote: »
    But they don't actively share between the two platforms. Google Maps is more accurate at present in Ireland because nearly every Android and iPhone are reporting to Google Maps in the background as most people enable this option, or are unaware of it.
    Some aspects are shared, e.g. live traffic from Google Maps is being shared with Waze for Ireland, although the way Waze deals with this data means it won't appear in the exact same way. Incidents, road closures, etc. are also shared between the two depending on the situation.
    Waze doesn't really work in Ireland as we don't have good alternative routes. If you are going through Dublin, the only 'highway' is the M50. So the routing algorithms don't work very well. This is compared to the US and abroad where you have secondary, collectors and expresses that can actually make a huge difference.

    I'd disagree. Waze works about as well in Ireland as Google Maps does, which is often good but sometimes it suggests bad routes. But what I find is Waze tends to learn more quickly what is bad - the only downside is that you will have to attempt the routes it does suggest a few times so it records road speeds, etc. I found after taking a route which I knew was slower a couple of times, it stopped suggesting it.

    Google Maps has some very inaccurate map data for Ireland in some places. It keeps suggesting to get to my workplace that I stop on a main road with no parking, with access blocked by a high fence and trees - when in fact I need to enter an industrial estate to get there. If Waze was routing this incorrectly (it does not), I could correct this fairly easily with the map editor. I've reported the issue to GMaps countless times and it's still broken. This isn't the only case I've seen where destinations are on wrong roads, inaccessible roads, etc.
    As a last point, Waze hammers your battery. I have no idea why but its a huge draw.

    Waze is doing more in a lot of ways, and provides more features, e.g. various alerts, fuel prices, speed limits, etc. I don't think it's as bad on battery as it used to be, but Google Maps while navigating isn't far off either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,225 ✭✭✭JCDUB


    I've tried to input fuel prices on Waze a couple of times and it just times out and doesn't update price.

    Also prices only show up to the nearest 10 cent when I go looking for petrol, which is not helpful in the slightest.

    Pity, potentially an awesome tool if it worked.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,031 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    JCDUB wrote: »
    I've tried to input fuel prices on Waze a couple of times and it just times out and doesn't update price.

    Also prices only show up to the nearest 10 cent when I go looking for petrol, which is not helpful in the slightest.

    Pity, potentially an awesome tool if it worked.

    The 10 cent jumps was a problem on the App which has been fixed, next time they are entered they will be correct. Haven't tried to input prices so can't mention the time out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,638 ✭✭✭zilog_jones


    Yes, the decimal point issue has been fixed, which had other related issues around not being able to enter prices at all.

    I put in fuel prices a couple of times in the past few weeks and it worked fine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,420 ✭✭✭✭sligojoek


    JCDUB wrote: »
    I've tried to input fuel prices on Waze a couple of times and it just times out and doesn't update price.

    Also prices only show up to the nearest 10 cent when I go looking for petrol, which is not helpful in the slightest.

    Pity, potentially an awesome tool if it worked.

    Are you a new user? I think you have to build up a few miles before you can input fuel prices.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,638 ✭✭✭zilog_jones


    You have to have driven at least 160 km to be able to update fuel prices, and be within a radius of 500 metres of the petrol station to submit the report. This is to prevent bots or other dodgy stuff happening.

    But I think JCDUB's issue was related to previous bugs which have been resolved. It should tell you why you can't update the prices if you shouldn't be able to, or if you're outside the radius it won't let you enter them at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,471 ✭✭✭SweetCaliber


    Not condoning the use of the Applegreen API but its very powerful and shows literally every petrol station in Ireland, all updated every morning.

    Be interesting if someone were to contact Applegreen about making the use of it public, it could be easily implemented into a pumps.ie like website that would be incredibly accurate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,868 ✭✭✭Alkers


    Be interesting if someone were to contact Applegreen about making the use of it public, it could be easily implemented into a pumps.ie like website that would be incredibly accurate.


    It's available on their app? I use it and it's great


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,031 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    Simona1986 wrote: »
    It's available on their app? I use it and it's great

    Where's their App? I checked the play store and their website and can't find it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,225 ✭✭✭JCDUB


    Del2005 wrote: »
    The 10 cent jumps was a problem on the App which has been fixed, next time they are entered they will be correct. Haven't tried to input prices so can't mention the time out.

    All seems good now. Inputted petrol prices this morning without a hitch. Great stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,868 ✭✭✭Alkers


    Del2005 wrote:
    Where's their App? I checked the play store and their website and can't find it


    That's strange, it does seem to have disappeared from the play store and I don't see it mentioned on their site


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,187 ✭✭✭mikeecho


    Simona1986 wrote: »
    That's strange, it does seem to have disappeared from the play store and I don't see it mentioned on their site

    There's a link to it Earlier in This thread


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,892 ✭✭✭deezell


    mikeecho wrote: »
    There's a link to it Earlier in This thread

    I have to say it's great to have it, it's missing a few of the well known discount stations, Go in Ballyer, Ushers Island, the Diesel only one in Ballsbridge, but plenty of the other known cost cutters, Enfield, Newbridge, Mountbrown and others. All reasonably up to date too.
    Who updates this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,187 ✭✭✭mikeecho


    deezell wrote: »
    I have to say it's great to have it, it's missing a few of the well known discount stations, Go in Ballyer, Ushers Island, the Diesel only one in Ballsbridge, but plenty of the other known cost cutters, Enfield, Newbridge, Mountbrown and others. All reasonably up to date too.
    Who updates this?

    It's updated by Applegreen staff.
    They update their own price, and that of neighboring stations.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,892 ✭✭✭deezell


    mikeecho wrote: »
    It's updated by Applegreen staff.
    They update their own price, and that of neighboring stations.

    Well, how very nice of them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 353 ✭✭Auld Jim Halpin


    Was there ever an IOS equivalent of the Applegreen app?


  • Registered Users Posts: 56 ✭✭Jimbojimbo


    Yes, but it hasn't worked for a good while


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,769 ✭✭✭horse7


    Anyone got the price of the fuel in Go Kyle more rd


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,554 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    Waze app is probably the best option for getting fuel prices.
    Once you have logged 180km(I think) driving you can update fuel prices.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,860 ✭✭✭Bummer1234


    I find the Waze app great, I know its very storage heavy on some phones and people don't want these things on the phone that are using potential photo storage,i use it when i can and find it great for gas and Traffic. Great if it caught on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,892 ✭✭✭deezell


    horse7 wrote: »
    Anyone got the price of the fuel in Go Kyle more rd

    133.9 for diesel last week, 143.9 I think for has


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,554 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    Bummer1234 wrote: »
    I find the Waze app great, I know its very storage heavy on some phones and people don't want these things on the phone that are using potential photo storage,i use it when i can and find it great for gas and Traffic. Great if it caught on.

    It's great, once you build up the KM you dont really need to have it open too often.I only really use it for petrol prices.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,554 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    horse7 wrote: »
    Anyone got the price of the fuel in Go Kyle more rd

    Updated today on Waze.
    145.90 Petrol
    132.90 Diesel


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    yabadabado wrote: »
    Waze app is probably the best option for getting fuel prices.
    Once you have logged 180km(I think) driving you can update fuel prices.

    I did 1500km on it in a week and it still kept telling me I needed to do 180km. That bug was one of the main reasons I dumped it the first time around and they still haven't fixed it across the board.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,554 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    I did 1500km on it in a week and it still kept telling me I needed to do 180km. That bug was one of the main reasons I dumped it the first time around and they still haven't fixed it across the board.

    Did you link the app to the website with your email address ?

    I think that is the issue ,similar happened me but once I linked them I got access within a day or 2.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,769 ✭✭✭horse7


    Thanks, its 1.48€ in apple clonsilla rd


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,638 ✭✭✭zilog_jones


    yabadabado wrote: »
    Waze app is probably the best option for getting fuel prices.
    Once you have logged 180km(I think) driving you can update fuel prices.
    It's 160 km.
    Bummer1234 wrote: »
    I find the Waze app great, I know its very storage heavy on some phones...
    I don't know where you got that from, it's using about 250 MB on my phone, a third of what Google Maps uses. Very typical amount of usage for such an app.
    I did 1500km on it in a week and it still kept telling me I needed to do 180km. That bug was one of the main reasons I dumped it the first time around and they still haven't fixed it across the board.
    You need to have registered your account with an email address, and it may take a week for your status to update after registering: https://support.google.com/waze/answer/9333101?hl=en&ref_topic=6263925
    The delay is probably there for a reason (discourage bot/spam accounts, etc.).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 728 ✭✭✭robert muldoon


    It's 160 km.


    I don't know where you got that from, it's using about 250 MB on my phone, a third of what Google Maps uses. Very typical amount of usage for such an app.


    You need to have registered your account with an email address, and it may take a week for your status to update after registering: https://support.google.com/waze/answer/9333101?hl=en&ref_topic=6263925
    The delay is probably there for a reason (discourage bot/spam accounts, etc.).

    I have just come across this forum and like all of I found pumps.ie invaluable and miss it greatly
    I am an iOS user, is the apple green app available in iOS App Store?
    I don’t understand this waze thing, can someone tellmewhats the best solution to pumps.ie
    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 728 ✭✭✭robert muldoon


    I was going thru Ballon co Carlow last night and saw 131.9 for diesel at a Texaco station, thtsthe cheapest I’ve seeen around


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    I was going thru Ballon co Carlow last night and saw 131.9 for diesel at a Texaco station, thtsthe cheapest I’ve seeen around

    Nolan's always is. They're very good for pricing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,554 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    I have just come across this forum and like all of I found pumps.ie invaluable and miss it greatly
    I am an iOS user, is the apple green app available in iOS App Store?
    I don’t understand this waze thing, can someone tellmewhats the best solution to pumps.ie
    Thanks

    Waze is very easy to use. Download the app and input your details (email address) .You need to drive 160km and have the app record it before you can start using the petrol prices part.
    Before you start a drive just open the app and leave it on while you drive to record the km ,no need for it to be giving you directions. Once you have gotten 160km ,you wont need to do this.

    Once you have got 160m ,you can use the search button to find stations/prices and to update prices(you need to be at the station to update ).


  • Registered Users Posts: 353 ✭✭Auld Jim Halpin


    There has been a substantial decrease in crude oil price over the last few weeks, hopefully we will see a decrease at the pump soon.


    @Robert Muldoon - there apparently was an IOS Applegreen app at some point but I don't believe it works any longer, feel free to see if you can find it. I resurrected an old android phone and put the app on that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,638 ✭✭✭zilog_jones


    yabadabado wrote: »
    You need to drive 160km and have the app record it before you can start using the petrol prices part.

    Just to clarify - you can check fuel prices when you start using the app, it's only if you want to submit fuel price updates that you need to have driven 160 km.

    Instructions for submitting reports are here:
    https://support.google.com/waze/answer/6262574?hl=en


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,155 ✭✭✭StereoSound


    How do you know the fuel be pumped out is inline with what the meter is telling you ? How often do pump testers go around checking the accuracy? Once a year? I reckon most or all stations don't bother to adjust the amount of fuel dispensed within a 5c tolerance. So driving half way across the city to get fuel 3 or 4 cent cheaper will make shag all differance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,031 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    How do you know the fuel be pumped out is inline with what the meter is telling you ? How often do pump testers go around checking the accuracy? Once a year? I reckon most or all stations don't bother to adjust the amount of fuel dispensed within a 5c tolerance. So driving half way across the city to get fuel 3 or 4 cent cheaper will make shag all differance.

    Pumps are regulate by weights and measures, if you think they are incorrect then report and they will check.

    It's not worth driving off route for cheaper fuel. You will maybe safe a Euro but spend more than that driving, in time and added fuel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,892 ✭✭✭deezell


    How do you know the fuel be pumped out is inline with what the meter is telling you ? How often do pump testers go around checking the accuracy? Once a year? I reckon most or all stations don't bother to adjust the amount of fuel dispensed within a 5c tolerance. So driving half way across the city to get fuel 3 or 4 cent cheaper will make shag all differance.
    NSAI legal metrology service looks after pumps calibration. They are accurate to +1 to -0.5 %, so the most you will lose is about 0.7 cent on a litre, you stand to gain 1.4 cent using €1.40 As a price. They are more than happy to receive calls of suspected short measures. I reported a dodgy operator maybe 10 or 15 years ago, when a fill while well in reserve took several litres more than it had in previous occasions. Buyer beware.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,898 ✭✭✭KOR101


    I suppose we still have this.....

    https://www.theaa.ie/aa/motoring-advice/petrol-prices.aspx

    Can anyone say how posts to Waze compare in number to Pumps.ie.


  • Registered Users Posts: 87 ✭✭Dr.TV


    Just to let you know I emailed the owner of pumps.ie in and i got this reply on 29th April:
    Hi,
    The owner of the site is working on a backend upgrade required by the hosting platform.
    This is in work, once complete the app will be back online.
    Not able to monitor this address regularly but will check in more often

    Been 2 months since so not sure if that's still the case. i still open the app every so often, its started crashing with the latest S9 update.

    (Only seeing the thread now, sorry :) )


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,187 ✭✭✭mikeecho


    Dr.TV wrote: »
    Just to let you know I emailed the owner of pumps.ie in and i got this reply on 29th April:
    Hi,
    The owner of the site is working on a backend upgrade required by the hosting platform.
    This is in work, once complete the app will be back online.
    Not able to monitor this address regularly but will check in more often

    Been 2 months since so not sure if that's still the case. i still open the app every so often, its started crashing with the latest S9 update.

    (Only seeing the thread now, sorry :) )

    That's seems to me good news... I hope.

    The app doesn't crash on my sgs6 or oneplus6t , it simply says that my watchlist is empty, or no nearby stations found.

    I just don't find Waze as good. .. too few users, and not as user friendly for checking prices.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,638 ✭✭✭zilog_jones


    mikeecho wrote: »
    I just don't find Waze as good. .. too few users, and not as user friendly for checking prices.

    Just tap on the search box, tap on the pump icon, and it shows a map and list (sorted by distance) for you. It even pops up asking you if you want to search for local fuel prices if you stop moving for long enough. There are voice commands too.

    Waze is better than nothing, and Pumps.ie right now is still nothing...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,892 ✭✭✭deezell


    127.5 for Diesel in Maxol Newbridge yesterday. Applegreen also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,187 ✭✭✭mikeecho


    deezell wrote: »
    127.5 for Diesel in Maxol Newbridge yesterday. Applegreen also.

    How do retailers claim they only make a few small cent on a little, when I know of stations selling diesel for 139.9, that's 12.4¢ more , and I presume that the maxol is still making profit at 127.5


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,031 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    mikeecho wrote: »
    How do retailers claim they only make a few small cent on a little, when I know of stations selling diesel for 139.9, that's 12.4¢ more , and I presume that the maxol is still making profit at 127.5

    It depends how much they bought it for and they also have to figure out how much they will have to pay for the next tank. Here's the taxes and costs of fuel

    There's a reason why most petrol stations now have coffee and food serving areas, there's huge profit on them, and loads of sweets, there's big profit on these.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,892 ✭✭✭deezell


    True, I happily bought a few cones to lick while pulled in at the curragh, as it was Derby day. Lots of fine fillys there. €3 for cones from a €6 euro saving. I'd say Maxol made a killing from the passing punters, also the Kildare v Tyrone traffic going the opposite way. Ideal day to flog coffee and munchies.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,471 ✭✭✭SweetCaliber


    Just to let everyone know that I am actively developing a revamped version of Pumps.ie at the moment. I'm doing this in my spare time so can't give an estimated date when it will be live but I will keep you updated.

    If anyone has any time to spare and has experience in Node.js, Mongo, Handlebars, Express then I'd appreciate any help.

    Any features you'd like to see give me a PM and I'd happily add them to the list.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,471 ✭✭✭SweetCaliber


    Just a small sneak peak and update.

    Apologies if not allowed, mods can clarify if any rules are broke or this needs to be moved to a different forum, however it is technically motor related :pac:

    Website is coming along nicely, still a couple features to add to it but hopefully it will be operational in the next week or so.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,610 ✭✭✭Lord Nikon


    Passed the Applegreen in Cherry Orchard(Ballyfermot) last night, lowest prices I've seen for fuel.

    Diesel : 117.8
    Petrol : 128.8

    Haven't seen petrol priced this low in a long time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,420 ✭✭✭✭sligojoek


    Jaysus. It's averaging 1.43 and 1.33 up here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Apologies if not allowed, mods can clarify if any rules are broken
    No probs, as long as it is free to use I don't mind


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