Distance spraying from house

Mad_maxx · 19-05-2019 8:25pm

ganmo wrote: »

Keep us informed on how that works out

Yes, I imagine he might engage in a bit of bulldozing

Two can play at that game

riemann · 19-05-2019 8:26pm

Lads it's quite clear this poster is just winding ye up.

ganmo · 19-05-2019 8:42pm

riemann wrote: »

Lads it's quite clear this poster is just winding ye up.

It's quite possible they are but other people reading this in the future can at least benefit from the responses

Waffletraktor · 19-05-2019 8:49pm

Kickstart1.3 wrote: »

It's a worry for any parent to see spraying so close to your home. Just look at the what is happening Monsanto. They are getting sued every other day now.
If the op children or themselves get sick from the spray they need to do more than informing the department. They need to take legal action against him too.

Be very supprised if the Monsanto thing sees any payouts in the next decade until the courts of appeals means law firms have sucked all sides dry as proof of guilt is very tenuous in the states in private actions.
Monsanto gave up on glyphos as it went off label and too cheap for them to make money on, already molecules like glucosinolates ready to step in.

PoorFarmer · 19-05-2019 8:50pm

Mad_maxx wrote:

I don't mean I was going to stop the combine this year, harvest is only few months away, he has no right of way, he only uses this route for heavy machinery, only his second year growing barley, used to put in and take out cattle from the other side

Then why did you say "No combine getting in"?
Quite possible that cattle were moved the other way as there may be a holding pen for loading etc on the other entrance or it might just be easier to confine them there (entrance at the corner rather than the middle of a field).

Also quite possible that he still doesn't know that he has no right of way there.

SuperTortoise · 19-05-2019 9:03pm

It's a few years since i completed the pesticide spraying course, but from memory i think the buffer zone is 10m, there are exceptions to that with drift reducing nozzles for example.
Pesticide/fertilizer is very expensive, spraying it in "windy" conditions is of no benefit to anyone most of all the farmer.

Mad_maxx · 19-05-2019 9:10pm

Kickstart1.3 wrote: »

It's a worry for any parent to see spraying so close to your home. Just look at the what is happening Monsanto. They are getting sued every other day now.
If the op children or themselves get sick from the spray they need to do more than informing the department. They need to take legal action against him too.

Nice to see some considerate views, bulk of contributors here demanded we

" suck it up"

Mad_maxx · 19-05-2019 9:11pm

pablo128 wrote: »

Would you not grow a high boundary hedge around your property? I'm sure that would help.

Yes, should be eight foot high in a yewr

Mad_maxx · 19-05-2019 9:12pm

ganmo wrote: »

It's quite possible they are but other people reading this in the future can at least benefit from the responses

You mean they will see clearly how thick headed farmers are?

Mad_maxx · 19-05-2019 9:13pm

PoorFarmer wrote: »

Then why did you say "No combine getting in"?
Quite possible that cattle were moved the other way as there may be a holding pen for loading etc on the other entrance or it might just be easier to confine them there (entrance at the corner rather than the middle of a field).

Also quite possible that he still doesn't know that he has no right of way there.

I'm pretty sure he doesn't know but he will in due course

Waffletraktor · 19-05-2019 9:14pm

Mad_maxx wrote: »

You mean they will see clearly how thick headed farmers are?

More like how little joe public knows of the tech and techniques of how foods are produced, really.

Mad_maxx · 19-05-2019 9:15pm

SuperTortoise wrote: »

It's a few years since i completed the pesticide spraying course, but from memory i think the buffer zone is 10m, there are exceptions to that with drift reducing nozzles for example.
Pesticide/fertilizer is very expensive, spraying it in "windy" conditions is of no benefit to anyone most of all the farmer.

This fella is known to be like a big child with toys, any excuse to show off the gear, farming is all he does

pablo128 · 19-05-2019 9:18pm

Mad_maxx wrote: »

This fella is known to be like a big child with toys, any excuse to show off the gear, farming is all he does

It sounds like you have spoken or discussed this lad with everyone and anyone from the local area, but have never spoken to him. It's only 20 past 9. Drop over to him and ask him for a chat.

Mad_maxx · 19-05-2019 9:24pm

pablo128 wrote: »

It sounds like you have spoken or discussed this lad with everyone and anyone from the local area, but have never spoken to him. It's only 20 past 9. Drop over to him and ask him for a chat.

I would never dare show up uninvited at someone's house, will bump into him soon enough when he's over spraying for the tenth time since planting

Waffletraktor · 19-05-2019 9:30pm

Mad_maxx wrote: »

I would never dare show up uninvited at someone's house, will bump into him soon enough when he's over spraying for the tenth time since planting

Remember your appropiate ppe.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/3M-Clean-Powered-Purifying-Respirator/dp/B00JFBT7M2
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Dupont-TYCHEM-STD-CHA5-YELLOW/dp/B00PC8VGG2?ref_=fsclp_pl_dp_1

Mad_maxx · 19-05-2019 9:36pm

Waffletraktor wrote: »

Remember your appropiate ppe.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/3M-Clean-Powered-Purifying-Respirator/dp/B00JFBT7M2
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Dupont-TYCHEM-STD-CHA5-YELLOW/dp/B00PC8VGG2?ref_=fsclp_pl_dp_1

I already know your fine with poisoning people, you don't need comedy props to confirm the point

Lime Tree Farm · 19-05-2019 9:41pm

Say my name wrote: »

These disagreements are always the best ones.

I can't wait to read about it in The Independent.
Just be aware op how some of them end up.

Yes - I think so too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4icMkZkAeQ

_Brian · 19-05-2019 9:44pm

What’s the expected outcome here.

If OP chats with the farmer and the reply is “yep, your grand that’s all safe and spray is being applied properly”

Will you be happy with that reply OP ?

selectamatic · 19-05-2019 9:48pm

_Brian wrote: »

Will you be happy with that reply OP ?

I think we all know the answer to that.

Mad_maxx · 19-05-2019 9:48pm

_Brian wrote: »

What’s the expected outcome here.

If OP chats with the farmer and the reply is “yep, your grand that’s all safe and spray is being applied properly”

Will you be happy with that reply OP ?

Won't be happy until he stops spraying, he can plant barley up a lane, far away from someone's house

I'll apply pressure in various ways, I'm sick myself this weekend, I've quite severe allergies, to food and other things, lungs are easily effected, use inhalers since I was a child, son also on inhalers

Do none of this lightly but know how inconsiderate, entitled and arrogant, farmers are

Waffletraktor · 19-05-2019 9:51pm

Mad_maxx wrote: »

I already know your fine with poisoning people, you don't need comedy props to confirm the point

Ppe in someones work place is a very serious matter. Do you not take health and safety seriously?

pablo128 · 19-05-2019 9:54pm

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Won't be happy until he stops spraying, he can plant barley up a lane, far away from someone's house

I'll apply pressure in various ways, I'm sick myself this weekend, I've quite severe allergies, to food and other things, lungs are easily effected, use inhalers since I was a child, son also on inhalers

Do none of this lightly but know how inconsiderate, entitled and arrogant, farmers are

I know no one has said it yet, but why did you buy a house in the countyside? Didn't you know that crops are grown, and animals raised there? Now you want a farmer to leave land idle just for you?

_Brian · 19-05-2019 9:56pm

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Won't be happy until he stops spraying, he can plant barley up a lane, far away from someone's house

I'll apply pressure in various ways, I'm sick myself this weekend, I've quite severe allergies, to food and other things, lungs are easily effected, use inhalers since I was a child, son also on inhalers

Do none of this lightly but know how inconsiderate, entitled and arrogant, farmers are

Ok so please don’t start by calling me names I was asking a genuine question.

Can I ask how do you plan to go about stopping him spraying. Since there is a crop in place you realise there will be a substantial financial loss if spraying is stopped.

I appreciate your position that you don’t like the spraying, but, if all safety precautions as set in law are being met you may have no way to force the farmer to do something that will result in a severe financial loss.

Mad_maxx · 19-05-2019 9:59pm

pablo128 wrote: »

I know no one has said it yet, but why did you buy a house in the countyside? Didn't you know that crops are grown, and animals raised there? Now you want a farmer to leave land idle just for you?

Not at all, he can graze it like he used to prior to last year

Not opposed to growing crops but you have to put the health of people above incomes, if he had any decency, he would not do what he is doing in the first place, no one has carte blanche to do as they please, even farmers

_Brian · 19-05-2019 10:01pm

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Not at all, he can graze it like he used to prior to last year

Not opposed to growing crops but you have to put the health of people above incomes

Evidence is key here and not anecdotal evidence.
If he has kept to and possibly exceeded the distances required as shown by tram lines in the field. Where will the evidence come from to stop the tillage use of the field ?

Mad_maxx · 19-05-2019 10:02pm

_Brian wrote: »

Ok so please don’t start by calling me names I was asking a genuine question.

Can I ask how do you plan to go about stopping him spraying. Since there is a crop in place you realise there will be a substantial financial loss if spraying is stopped.

I appreciate your position that you don’t like the spraying, but, if all safety precautions as set in law are being met you may have no way to force the farmer to do something that will result in a severe financial loss.

I did not call you a name!

I don't intend to block him harvesting this years crop but he will be informed later that he has no right of way

_Brian · 19-05-2019 10:03pm

Mad_maxx wrote: »

I did not call you a name!

I don't intend to block him harvesting this years crop but he will be informed later that he has no right of way

Me being a “farmer” you said I was ignorant , inconsiderate and arrogant.
Check your post.

_Brian · 19-05-2019 10:04pm

Mad_maxx wrote: »

I did not call you a name!

I don't intend to block him harvesting this years crop but he will be informed later that he has no right of way

What’s the story on the right of way ?? Is he accessing the field illegally at the moment ?

TheFarrier · 19-05-2019 10:07pm

Op you said yourself earlier that you have no problem with the man spraying fertilizer, now you won’t be happy till no more spraying at all, yet you still don’t know whether the spray being used is herbicidal, pesticidal or fert.
Go talk to the man, farmers are people too and if you have a genuine concern then any reasonable person will do whatever he can to allay your fears or remedy the problem.

But if your whole argument is “I don’t like it so it must stop, or I’ll go to department” then you will be treated like the small child you are appearing to be, and told to shag off.

Is it any wonder farming people can be seen as ignorant and pig headed when people are so ready to launch a full on attack on their livelihood without ever trying the diplomatic approach??

If some head the ball landed into my place of work and demanded that I pack up and leave without trying to reach a reasonable conclusion I’d be quick enough to tell take a running jump too.

Fair will be met with fair.

Talk to the farmer.

Mad_maxx · 19-05-2019 10:07pm

_Brian wrote: »

Evidence is key here and not anecdotal evidence.
If he has kept to and possibly exceeded the distances required as shown by tram lines in the field. Where will the evidence come from to stop the tillage use of the field ?

Is the buffer zone measured from the start of the neighbours property or the actual house belonging to the neighbour?

The headland is 40 metres from my front door but he has the headland planted so the distance between his barley and the boundary with me is no more than two metres, I have a field surrounding my house with sheep in it

Mad_maxx · 19-05-2019 10:09pm

_Brian wrote: »

Me being a “farmer” you said I was ignorant , inconsiderate and arrogant.
Check your post.

I was speaking in the general use of the term, was not personally addressing you, I'm a farmer myself technically

Mad_maxx · 19-05-2019 10:11pm

_Brian wrote: »

What’s the story on the right of way ?? Is he accessing the field illegally at the moment ?

Seems so, when he used to keep cattle on this land, he never drove up our road - lane

Only discovered the last stretch is private today, one other farmer has a right of way

_Brian · 19-05-2019 10:13pm

Mad_maxx wrote: »

I was speaking in the general use of the term, was not personally addressing you, I'm a farmer myself technically

When you come onto a farming forum and call “farmers” meaning all farmers ignorant, entitled and inconsiderate you can be sure we all read that and think “**** you and the horse you rode in on”

I can’t answer your query on the buffer zones.

_Brian · 19-05-2019 10:14pm

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Seems so, when he used to keep cattle on this land, he never drove up our road - lane

Only discovered the last stretch is private today, one other farmer has a right of way

Renting the land likely gives him temporary right of way.

Mad_maxx · 19-05-2019 10:14pm

TheFarrier wrote: »

Op you said yourself earlier that you have no problem with the man spraying fertilizer, now you won’t be happy till no more spraying at all, yet you still don’t know whether the spray being used is herbicidal, pesticidal or fert.
Go talk to the man, farmers are people too and if you have a genuine concern then any reasonable person will do whatever he can to allay your fears or remedy the problem.

But if your whole argument is “I don’t like it so it must stop, or I’ll go to department” then you will be treated like the small child you are appearing to be, and told to shag off.

Is it any wonder farming people can be seen as ignorant and pig headed when people are so ready to launch a full on attack on their livelihood without ever trying the diplomatic approach??

If some head the ball landed into my place of work and demanded that I pack up and leave without trying to reach a reasonable conclusion I’d be quick enough to tell take a running jump too.

Fair will be met with fair.

Talk to the farmer.

I do know he was spraying on Friday as the same guy is managing the other farmers crop, know this other man fairly well and spoke to him today, got the guy in questions number off him but no reply, other farmer planted for the first time this year but won't be planting next year

I don't know if some visits to the field involved spraying fertiliser but it was definitely pesticides two days ago

Say my name · 19-05-2019 10:16pm

Lime Tree Farm wrote: »

Yes - I think so too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4icMkZkAeQ

He was a great oul character.

Imagine what he'd be like on the internet.

https://youtu.be/J7Rhws_K2RY

pablo128 · 19-05-2019 10:16pm

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Seems so, when he used to keep cattle on this land, he never drove up our road - lane

Only discovered the last stretch is private today, one other farmer has a right of way

Do you not remember posting a thread 5 months ago where you you said the farmer only has access so far up the lane, and to access the land further up he has to use a different entrance?

Dinzee Conlee · 19-05-2019 10:17pm

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Won't be happy until he stops spraying, he can plant barley up a lane, far away from someone's house

I'll apply pressure in various ways, I'm sick myself this weekend, I've quite severe allergies, to food and other things, lungs are easily effected, use inhalers since I was a child, son also on inhalers

Do none of this lightly but know how inconsiderate, entitled and arrogant, farmers are

You asked about distances to house in the OP, you got an answer from many people - the legal limit seems to be less than the distance from the field to your house, so the farmer is doing nothing wrong...

When advised to just go inside, to avoid it - you poked holes in this option as well...

You have been told numerous times to talk to the farmer, it was even said go down now and have a chat with him...
But even though you give it loads about your health, it seems it’s not as high a priority to go out of your way to meet him. Instead, you will wait for him to come to you...

Then, you finish with calling all farmers ‘inconsiderate, entitled and arrogant’

I am inclined to agree with the poster who said you’re just trolling... think there is no spray problem, nor house, nor farmer, nor illness, nor son...

Mad_maxx · 19-05-2019 10:18pm

_Brian wrote: »

When you come onto a farming forum and call “farmers” meaning all farmers ignorant, entitled and inconsiderate you can be sure we all read that and think “**** you and the horse you rode in on”

I can’t answer your query on the buffer zones.

I grew up on a farm, I've worked on farms in new Zealand, in general that's how I've found them, was not intending to personally slight you

I got called a fcukwit earlier and a poor parent so it appears to be no place for the precious

Mad_maxx · 19-05-2019 10:19pm

pablo128 wrote: »

Do you not remember posting a thread 5 months ago where you you said the farmer only has access so far up the lane, and to access the land further up he has to use a different entrance?

I do not recall that

Mad_maxx · 19-05-2019 10:21pm

_Brian wrote: »

Renting the land likely gives him temporary right of way.

No, the owner does not have a right of way either

Not like he cannot access the field, he can but a combine could not

Mad_maxx · 19-05-2019 10:23pm

Dinzee Conlee wrote: »

You asked about distances to house in the OP, you got an answer from many people - the legal limit seems to be less than the distance from the field to your house, so the farmer is doing nothing wrong...

When advised to just go inside, to avoid it - you poked holes in this option as well...

You have been told numerous times to talk to the farmer, it was even said go down now and have a chat with him...
But even though you give it loads about your health, it seems it’s not as high a priority to go out of your way to meet him. Instead, you will wait for him to come to you...

Then, you finish with calling all farmers ‘inconsiderate, entitled and arrogant’

I am inclined to agree with the poster who said you’re just trolling... think there is no spray problem, nor house, nor farmer, nor illness, nor son...

If your happy to conclude that

Knock yourself out as the Americans say, I don't care

_Brian · 19-05-2019 10:30pm

Mad_maxx wrote: »

I grew up on a farm, I've worked on farms in new Zealand, in general that's how I've found them, was not intending to personally slight you

I got called a fcukwit earlier and a poor parent so it appears to be no place for the precious

Deal with wit you were called any way you like.
I think coming on asking advice and then insulting literally every farmer here is way OTT

Anyway.

Is your current plan to block right of way to the land ??

Surely only the land owner can block right of way ?? Or do you skate right of way and plan to use that to block the tenant farmer ?

Mad_maxx · 19-05-2019 10:44pm

_Brian wrote: »

Deal with wit you were called any way you like.
I think coming on asking advice and then insulting literally every farmer here is way OTT

Anyway.

Is your current plan to block right of way to the land ??

Surely only the land owner can block right of way ?? Or do you skate right of way and plan to use that to block the tenant farmer ?

I own the last stretch of the lane leading to the entrance to the field planted, hence he is trespassing in order to gain entry to the field

_Brian · 19-05-2019 10:50pm

Mad_maxx wrote: »

I own the last stretch of the lane leading to the entrance to the field planted, hence he is trespassing in order to gain entry to the field

That’s the answer so.
If thatnrue case you hold an upper hand.

Everything after that is opinion and semantics. Is that the only access to that piece of land ?

greysides · 19-05-2019 11:11pm

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