Time to bring back hanging?

marieholmfan · 17-04-2019 11:45am #1

Hi there

Would you support bringing back hanging?

Tom Mann Centuria · 17-04-2019 11:47am

No.

jimmycrackcorm · 17-04-2019 11:47am

I keep telling my kid to hang up his jacket, so yes, all in favour

Rubberchikken · 17-04-2019 11:48am

everytime ive to deal with some clown on the road..definitely yes.

El Weirdo · 17-04-2019 11:48am

marieholmfan wrote: »

Hi there

Would you support bringing back hanging?

Some great points you make in your argument.

But no.

Edit: Just saw the poll options. Still no.

Eire Go Brach · 17-04-2019 11:49am

Death is to easy for some of the worst scum.
I have an alternative. Torture. Cut of all there limbs and there eyes. But take time doing it. Leave the ears. Play Barney all the time.
This way they would be easy to maintain. Just feed them through a tube. Would require small spaces as well.

salmocab · 17-04-2019 11:50am

Hanging is quite specific, has someone wronged you?

Zaph · 17-04-2019 11:51am

marieholmfan wrote: »

Hi there

Would you support bringing back hanging?

Why do you feel it's time to bring it back at this particular time?

Personally it's a no for me to the death penalty, under any circumstances.

Just saw the poll. That's the most loaded poll I've seen on Boards in a long time.

salmocab · 17-04-2019 11:51am

I voted for the first option just to be edgy

francois · 17-04-2019 11:51am

marieholmfan wrote: »

Hi there

Would you support bringing back hanging?

No. Ridiculous poll options as well.

endacl · 17-04-2019 11:52am

For starting stupid threads?

Ok. Just this once.

Boom_Bap · 17-04-2019 11:53am

Zaph wrote: »

Why do you feel it's time to bring it back at this particular time?

Personally it's a no for me to the death penalty, under any circumstances.

Just saw the poll. That's the most loaded poll I've seen on Boards in a long time.

and no Atari Jaguar option either.

weldoninhio · 17-04-2019 11:54am

100%, way to much scum roaming the streets these days. Not enough prison spaces, and it would be very cost effective. Society has become way too soft. There is a midpoint between killing someone who has wronged you and the namby pamby "hooman rights" nonsense we have now, and punishing someone with death for a heinous crime should be that midpoint.

patmahe · 17-04-2019 11:54am

For anything in particular or just in general? What crimes merit the taking of a life? Murder? How does the state taking a life differ from a murderer taking a life, what about mistaken identity incorrect findings by a jury etc... I'd much rather see people who commit serious crime trained up in things like road maintenance, gardening etc.. and put to work improving the society they have damaged.

So no, I wouldn't support a return to hanging.

eviltwin · 17-04-2019 11:54am

No. I wonder about the death penalty and it's impact on murders. If you know abusing a child is going to result in your death wouldn't you kill the child to prevent identification? After all, if the penalty for murder and child abuse are the same you have nothing to lose.

I also think from the victims point of view the mental impact on them of an abuser being put to death, especially if it's a family member, would be devastating.

El Weirdo · 17-04-2019 11:54am

Boom_Bap wrote: »

and no Atari Jaguar option either.

Actually, I've changed my mind.

howyegettinon1 · 17-04-2019 11:55am

public torture might be better get us all down to the local square for a bit of entertainment away from the telly, be great for socializing too. torture peedos and rapists maybe a few politicians

kneemos · 17-04-2019 11:55am

Hang whoever contrived that poll.

Wibbs · 17-04-2019 11:57am

Whatever about the justice involved around the matter, I guarantee the vast majority of those up for bringing back hanging would piss their pants in fear if they had to be the hangman involved. Glad to hand it off to someone else, not so much having to do it themselves.

Yer Da sells Avon · 17-04-2019 11:57am

Hanging's too good for posters who start serious threads in After Hours.

McMurphy · 17-04-2019 11:58am

No.

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salmocab · 17-04-2019 11:59am

The paedos and heroin dealers are well in the lead. Great day for boards democracy.

Edit now being beaten out by the stupid poll makers even better

marieholmfan · 17-04-2019 12:01pm

More than 80% of respondents support the reintroduction of hanging in some form.

17-04-2019 12:02pm

marieholmfan wrote: »

More than 80% of respondents support the reintroduction of hanging in some form.

Your poll is ludicrous. Get real.

salmocab · 17-04-2019 12:02pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Your poll is ludicrous. Get real.

It’s legally binding though

BelovedAunt · 17-04-2019 12:03pm

Eire Go Brach wrote: »

Death is to easy for some of the worst scum.
I have an alternative. Torture. Cut of all there limbs and there eyes. But take time doing it. Leave the ears. Play Barney all the time.
This way they would be easy to maintain. Just feed them through a tube. Would require small spaces as well.

That escalated quickly!

Your Face · 17-04-2019 12:04pm

No.
I don't trust anyone to have power over life and death.

Zaph · 17-04-2019 12:04pm

marieholmfan wrote: »

More than 80% of respondents support the reintroduction of hanging in some form.

Currently it's 10 for no, and a combined 10 for 3 various yes options. I might have to make an exception for your maths teacher because they clearly didn't do a very good job.

salmocab · 17-04-2019 12:07pm

Zaph wrote: »

Currently it's 10 for no, and a combined 10 for 3 various yes options. I might have to make an exception for your maths teacher because they clearly didn't do a very good job.

There have been over 50 votes, most wanting a hung stupid poll maker

marieholmfan · 17-04-2019 12:08pm

Zaph wrote: »

Currently it's 10 for no, and a combined 10 for 3 various yes options. I might have to make an exception for your maths teacher because they clearly didn't do a very good job.

I see 11 No and 41 for various forms of yes.

SusieBlue · 17-04-2019 12:08pm

Ridiculous poll options.
Anyway, my answer would be no. Because death is too good for some monsters, and because of the risk of an innocent person being wrongly convicted and subsequently killed.

marieholmfan · 17-04-2019 12:09pm

SusieBlue wrote: »

Ridiculous poll options.
Anyway, my answer would be no. Because death is too good for some monsters, and because of the risk of an innocent person being wrongly convicted and subsequently killed.

Hi there Susie - I set the poll up - do you mind if I ask why you believe that the options are ridiculous?

Plumbthedepths · 17-04-2019 12:10pm

No, as it's usually the poor or disadvantaged that end up facing the death penalty. The demographic of death row in the states is an eye opener.

Zaph · 17-04-2019 12:10pm

marieholmfan wrote: »

I see 11 No and 41 for various forms of yes.

I was only including the options that you added to the poll, not the one added by a mod later. You must be pretty desperate to prove your point if you're happy to include the final option in your figures.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 17-04-2019 12:10pm

If there is such a thing as a loaded question, then that is a loaded poll.

Also, OP - why hanging? Would you be in favour of stoning or do you support pedophilia?
(see? I can do it too....)

topper75 · 17-04-2019 12:12pm

Your Face wrote: »

No.
I don't trust anyone to have power over life and death.

OK - sounds like a reasonable fear.

To what end though do we keep say, an extreme case like an unrepentant multiple child murderer, alive on taxpayer funds indefinitely until they die naturally many years hence in a cell? I can't see what exactly that is supposed to achieve. If they can't be rehabilitated and we are never letting them out, why use up tax payer funds keeping them alive in a cell, potentially for decades?

marieholmfan · 17-04-2019 12:12pm

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

If there is such a thing as a loaded question, then that is a loaded poll.

Also, OP - why hanging? Would you be in favour of stoning or do you support pedophilia?
(see? I can do it too....)

NO! Stoning is foreign muck!

SusieBlue · 17-04-2019 12:12pm

marieholmfan wrote: »

Hi there Susie - I set the poll up - do you mind if I ask why you believe that the options are ridiculous?

Because they are one sided and disingenuous.

"Yes! But only for crimes committed by third world immigrants!" -- I mean, do you really expect to be taken seriously when you included this as an option?

Pretzill · 17-04-2019 12:13pm

No - I didn't vote my answer isn't included.

No because it's the sign of a medieval society and we have enough religious nutters trying to rewind the clock back centuries without resorting to barbarism ourselves.

Grayson · 17-04-2019 12:13pm

eviltwin wrote: »

No. I wonder about the death penalty and it's impact on murders. If you know abusing a child is going to result in your death wouldn't you kill the child to prevent identification? After all, if the penalty for murder and child abuse are the same you have nothing to lose.

I also think from the victims point of view the mental impact on them of an abuser being put to death, especially if it's a family member, would be devastating.

To be fair, if you were going to face years in prison and public humiliation would you be willing to risk it?

Stuff like prison isn't a deterrent for people who commit these crimes so I doubt the death penalty would be. IT's not like anyone who commits these crimes does the mental calculations beforehand and expects to get caught.

The death penalty is stupid idea anyway. Whatever about it being a suitable punishment for a particular crime. at some point we would kill an innocent person. Anyone in favor of it is essentially saying they're willing for an innocent person to die so that some guilty people die too.

marieholmfan · 17-04-2019 12:15pm

Grayson wrote: »

Anyone in favor of it is essentially saying they're willing for an innocent person to die so that some guilty people die too.

People die y'know. This would overwhelmingly be used against 'bad people' and most people executed unfairly were guilty of something anyway.

You could be hit by a bus tomorrow. You could be hit by lightning.

marieholmfan · 17-04-2019 12:18pm

SusieBlue wrote: »

Because they are one sided and disingenuous.

"Yes! But only for crimes committed by third world immigrants!" -- I mean, do you really expect to be taken seriously when you included this as an option?

Well there are people talking about Balbriggan on this discussion forum who say that the criminal children of African immigrants (not children of course but rather adolescents or young adults) should be punished according to African norms not Irish norms.

It would for example allow the hanging of members of one of the so called Islamic rape gangs should one emerge here.

Just for the avoidance of doubt I am in favour of hanging for serious recidivists largely as a cost saving measure.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 17-04-2019 12:20pm

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

No, as it's usually the poor or disadvantaged that end up facing the death penalty. The demographic of death row in the states is an eye opener.

You'll find all sorts on Death Row.

Being poor is not a mitigating factor in the commission of heinous crime.

lertsnim · 17-04-2019 12:23pm

Look at those poll options. They are utterly stupid.

pawdee · 17-04-2019 12:24pm

I'd recommend it for aging beef and game birds. As a method of capital punishment I'd prefer the guillotine (last used in France in 1977).

branie2 · 17-04-2019 12:25pm

Nope

17-04-2019 12:27pm

Do I get to nominate who gets hung?

RobertKK · 17-04-2019 12:27pm

No.

The death penalty is illegal in the EU and the Council of Europe.
The death penalty was fine when there were insecure prisons, we have the means to keep people who need to be locked up, locked up.

To bring back the death penalty would mean leaving the EU and the much broader council of Europe. It would be a most backward step for Ireland.

eviltwin · 17-04-2019 12:31pm

Grayson wrote: »

To be fair, if you were going to face years in prison and public humiliation would you be willing to risk it?

Stuff like prison isn't a deterrent for people who commit these crimes so I doubt the death penalty would be. IT's not like anyone who commits these crimes does the mental calculations beforehand and expects to get caught.

The death penalty is stupid idea anyway. Whatever about it being a suitable punishment for a particular crime. at some point we would kill an innocent person. Anyone in favor of it is essentially saying they're willing for an innocent person to die so that some guilty people die too.

I think if you're arrogant enough to think you can get away with it you will feel that way regardless of the penalty.

It's not a detterant, other countries have had the death penalty for years and crime is still a problem.

There is a reason why most modern countries are pushing back against it.

TheValeyard · 17-04-2019 12:33pm

We're not backward savage animals.

Boom_Bap · 17-04-2019 12:33pm

I'd prefer to bring back haggling

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