Space X

firemansam4 · 10-12-2020 1:53am

Working tonight so missed it â˜¹ï¸â˜¹ï¸
Hopefully get the chance to see what happened in next couple of hours.

Sounds like things didn't go too bad with it anyway...

MayoForSam · 11-12-2020 2:52pm

firemansam4 wrote: »

Working tonight so missed it â˜¹ï¸â˜¹ï¸
Hopefully get the chance to see what happened in next couple of hours.

Sounds like things didn't go too bad with it anyway...

Scott Manley has a very good summary here about the flight:

https://youtu.be/egHxiX40eJY

jogdish · 11-12-2020 6:01pm

SN9 has tipped over! might not have a second hop this calendar year.

FFVII · 11-12-2020 8:42pm

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-9043767/SpaceXs-latest-Starship-prototype-COLLAPSES-launch-pad.html

Timmaay · 30-12-2020 11:53pm

The madness continues.

jogdish · 31-12-2020 12:52am

At the start of 2020 I was very cynical of Space X, after watching and getting very hyped for the hops I am very into the whole thing now, albeit still not an Elon fan. But I have heard:

Starship point to point earth transport,
Starship to Mars
Same day reusability
This grabber arm tweet.

It's hard to know if Elon actually beleives this, tweets it for headlines or tweets it cause it crossed his mind. Personally I think people on a starship is a goal well into the future and the speed of current progress on Starship is litle indicator once you are attempting to make a human safe vehical which is a completely other task

I see starship being a hauler to orbit in the near future and it will be a game changer in that respect which is a massive thing. The mars stuff, I still think is just Elon thinking out loud.

Timmaay · 04-01-2021 11:25pm

https://www.tesmanian.com/blogs/tesmanian-blog/spacex-tom-cruise?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook&fbclid=IwAR3zXDKKPFsjjw_NYvCtLB1pGjxOAAlYaoPTftO76j_eekyPwD9ems3ZcGg

All purely a publicity stunt, but I'm all up for space tourism if it helps commercialise space travel and therefore help bring in more money for space r&d.

tipp_tipp_tipp · 04-01-2021 11:49pm

jogdish wrote: »

I see starship being a hauler to orbit in the near future and it will be a game changer in that respect which is a massive thing. The mars stuff, I still think is just Elon thinking out loud.

I think you make a good point here. In the early days of Falcon 9 I was always under the impressive Elon's talk of Mars was purely to drum up interest/investment in the company. When they went full steam ahead into starship development I found myself second guessing this. However looking at the numbers though, as you say starship promises to be a very cost effective way of getting stuff into Earth orbit, with no intention of going anywhere near Mars. I feel like Elon has been clever and covered all bases. Starship is being built with the intention of getting at least something to Mars, but if that fails it will not be a white elephant, and they will have the hauler that you describe.

Capt'n Midnight · 05-01-2021 12:19am

tipp_tipp_tipp wrote: »

I think you make a good point here. In the early days of Falcon 9 I was always under the impressive Elon's talk of Mars was purely to drum up interest/investment in the company.

You may have heard of 2001 :A Space Odyssey

Anyway in the second book 2010: Odyssey Two the Chinese space station Tsien takes everyone by surprise by firing up and leaving Earth orbit.

Maybe they'll do the opposite and setup a micro-nation in Low Earth Orbit :pac:

jogdish · 05-01-2021 12:22am

Ya, it's a great albeit risky business and he some how gets Apple like adoration. SpaceX are now in bed with Nasa for missions to the ISS, Boeing still testing starliner.
Then all of a sudden they are in the last three, and probably the last two for the lander part of NASA's moon mission. Two nice goverment contracts.

Add in the re use of falcon and the global wifi thing, they seem to be going well. Mars is great and I hope we get there sooner rather than later.

tipp_tipp_tipp · 05-01-2021 12:37am

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

Maybe they'll do the opposite and setup a micro-nation in Low Earth Orbit :pac:

That'd be gas.

A bit like that self proclaimed country in the north sea on the old WW2 structures. Can't think of the name of it off the top of my head.

Does raise some interesting questions about if he sets up a colony on Mars. Does that mean is he own Mars and can define Martian law?

Timmaay · 05-01-2021 1:18am

tipp_tipp_tipp wrote: »

That'd be gas. A bit like that self proclaimed country in the north sea on the old WW2 structures. Can't think of the name of it off the top of my head.

Does raise some interesting questions about if he sets up a colony on Mars. Does that mean is he own Mars and can define Martian law?

Cannabis and DMT would definitely be fully legalized on Mars if it was up to Musk anyways ha.

MOH · 06-01-2021 10:38am

tipp_tipp_tipp wrote: »

That'd be gas. A bit like that self proclaimed country in the north sea on the old WW2 structures. Can't think of the name of it off the top of my head.

Does raise some interesting questions about if he sets up a colony on Mars. Does that mean is he own Mars and can define Martian law?

Wasn't it just called Freeland?

I was going to make a joke about Trump trying to invoke Martian law, But actually: possibly? At the end of the day, the guy in charge of the company which supplies all your daily life support requirements is going to have a fair say in who's allowed do what (cf: Total Recall).

By the time it gets dragged through the courts 87 million miles away it's unlikely to help you. Actually, Elon Cohaagen sounds like a good South African name.

donspeekinglesh · 06-01-2021 10:42am

MOH wrote: »

Wasn't it just called Freeland?

I was going to make a joke about Trump trying to invoke Martian law, But actually: possibly? At the end of the day, the guy in charge of the company which supplies all your daily life support requirements is going to have a fair say in who's allowed do what (cf: Total Recall).

By the time it gets dragged through the courts 87 million miles away it's unlikely to help you. Actually, Elon Cohaagen sounds like a good South African name.

Sealand

MOH · 06-01-2021 10:44am

donspeekinglesh wrote: »

Sealand

Doh! I was so close. And yet that's far more obvious. Thanks, it was bugging me

jogdish · 07-01-2021 9:32pm

Another static fire of SN9 it seems tonight after yesterdays shorter than usual static fire. The flight notice for Friday still remains - but there is always some delay it seems (which is to be expected given what they are doing)

After seeing SN8 I really would not be surprised to see SN9 do a perfect test.

jogdish · 17-01-2021 11:29pm

So the three static fires, two engines being replaced and another round of static fires to come for SN9 - Hopefully they can launch and stick the landing.

jogdish · 18-01-2021 1:00am

Just (tried) to watch the Tim Dodd Everyday astronaut drive thru of Boca, cool idea wish his data held up, pretty much unwatchable. It's amazing how much of a cobbled together operation it looks from the outside.

Westernyelp · 18-01-2021 1:24am

jogdish wrote:

Just (tried) to watch the Tim Dodd Everyday astronaut drive thru of Boca, cool idea wish his data held up, pretty much unwatchable. It's amazing how much of a cobbled together operation it looks from the outside.

NASAspaceflight do a drive round the site most weeks

Capt'n Midnight · 18-01-2021 1:29am

Lets hope the next test doesn't have a green flame. Could mean boron or copper in the exhaust. And it isn't boron.

Copper is generally used for it's good thermal conductivity not as a propellant.

Westernyelp · 18-01-2021 3:50pm

Capt'n Midnight wrote:

Copper is generally used for it's good thermal conductivity not as a propellant.

Engine rich exhaust ðŸ€£

jogdish · 18-01-2021 4:00pm

Static Fire possible for today, ugh all aboard the excitement abort frustration excitement repeat train again

jogdish · 18-01-2021 11:00pm

no static fire today

and true again today - Wednesday.

Shlippery · 21-01-2021 1:04pm

Many many static fire aborts yesterday...one of them potentially for a range violation where a lad and his boat just zoomed by the launchpad.

Really really wanna see SN9 fly but feel like there's always one or two minor setbacks! Watching live streams is always nicely disappointing when you're a minute or two away then..abort abort abort!

jogdish · 21-01-2021 1:10pm

Shlippery wrote: »

Many many static fire aborts yesterday...one of them potentially for a range violation where a lad and his boat just zoomed by the launchpad.

Really really wanna see SN9 fly but feel like there's also one or two minor setbacks! Watching live streams is always nicely disappointing when you're a minute or two away then..abort abort abort!

Yup, so annoying.
Part of me thinks the aborts might be planned in some cases - there just seems to be so many getting so close to the wire.

jogdish · 22-01-2021 12:54am

Another bad static fire, seems odd. Imagine we were all thinking there was a possibility of a late December 2020 hop

Shlippery · 22-01-2021 2:11am

At least SN10 is more or less ready to go as well...still - if you look back to Feb 2020 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UsCCRGLP0Q - they've progressed a ridiculous amount in that space. We're spoilt really. That being said...it's so damn impressive. People think i'm crazy when I mention what's going on at Boca Chica!!

jogdish · 22-01-2021 8:57pm

Managed to catch the static fire on sn9 today, around 2/3pm odd time - sounded good and seems to be all systems go for a 10k 'hop' now i guess.

I watch most of this stuff with NSF on youtube, it's amazing how much coverage those guys get, turned on today to find a stream of an Oil rig being floated into port that spacex bought, and they have a second near Boca. It really is nuts.

How on earth do NSF support having a crew/camera almost everywhere? The super chats can't be doing everything.

Shlippery · 23-01-2021 5:28pm

jogdish wrote: »

Managed to catch the static fire on sn9 today, around 2/3pm odd time - sounded good and seems to be all systems go for a 10k 'hop' now i guess.

I watch most of this stuff with NSF on youtube, it's amazing how much coverage those guys get, turned on today to find a stream of an Oil rig being floated into port that spacex bought, and they have a second near Boca. It really is nuts.

How on earth do NSF support having a crew/camera almost everywhere? The super chats can't be doing everything.

LabPadre too are the other guys who have even more cameras at other angles. They had a good one of the foggy Static Fire!

Elon said there they're hoping to attempt SN9 early next week..so could be Monday!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KycyWcxWTcY <- saw this excellent video on Twitter which shows the plumbing behind it!

jogdish · 23-01-2021 7:01pm

Ya that's a great render of the fuel, whenever I see these i am always struck by how simple the whole things is, two barrels of fuel and the thing to set it on fire and exhausts it - yet it's clearly not simple at all. A simple photo of the raptor shows the amount of pipes etc.

Fleix on whataboutit says bad weather for next week, so could be another few delays but hopefully a hop soon, to start the hype train all over again with SN10, they really must be pumping those raptor engines out at the factory.

The super heavy booster will need more, it's crazy to think we will have seen a Starship land from a hop and a booster small hop by mid year probably. I think the next big but not exciting thing will be to get everything nailed down so that aborts etc mean hour or two delays and not day delays or heck even minutes. Really puts SLS into perspective - I like SLS just it's so much easier to get excited about starship. However starship is at stage one - it will slow down massively when they start to look for certifications for being considered as a launch provider.

jogdish · 25-01-2021 3:28pm

Might be a launch of SN9 today,25/1 seems to be likely from 6pm irish time onwards - but could be called off at any stage.

Shlippery · 25-01-2021 5:48pm

Yup, up to 1am or there abouts I think. They've attached the flight termination thing that means they can blow it up if anything goes wrong..which I think is an indicator they can't do any more static fires... so fingers crossed it gets up and down gracefully.

Exciting!

jogdish · 25-01-2021 9:03pm

booooo, no flight today booo

AMKC · 25-01-2021 10:16pm

Why did Space X name there rockers SN? Does it stand for something?
Space Neatral maybe.

Ha Long Bay · 25-01-2021 10:20pm

AMKC wrote: »

Why did Space X name there rockers SN? Does it stand for something?
Space Neatral maybe.

According to Wiki it's serial number.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpaceX_Starship

"In September 2019 Musk unveiled Starship Mk1, a more advanced test article.[53][54] The Mk1 was destroyed in a tank pressure test in November, and SpaceX ceased construction on the Mk2 prototype in Florida and moved on to work on the Mk3 article.[55] Adopting a new "serial number" nomenclature, the Mk3 article was renamed Starship SN1 by SpaceX to signify the major evolution in building techniques: the rings were now taller and each was made of one single sheet of steel, drastically reducing the welding lines (thus failure points). "

AMKC · 25-01-2021 10:42pm

john4321 wrote: »

According to Wiki it's serial number.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpaceX_Starship

"In September 2019 Musk unveiled Starship Mk1, a more advanced test article.[53][54] The Mk1 was destroyed in a tank pressure test in November, and SpaceX ceased construction on the Mk2 prototype in Florida and moved on to work on the Mk3 article.[55] Adopting a new "serial number" nomenclature, the Mk3 article was renamed Starship SN1 by SpaceX to signify the major evolution in building techniques: the rings were now taller and each was made of one single sheet of steel, drastically reducing the welding lines (thus failure points). "

Awe very good. Thank you for that.

jogdish · 25-01-2021 10:45pm

AMKC wrote: »

Awe very good. Thank you for that.

And the boosters are called ' BN '

Shlippery · 26-01-2021 1:07pm

Looks like they're skipping today and going for tomorrow.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1354015481217359878

Shlippery · 28-01-2021 10:38am

Feel like the weather kept it delayed til now...but..

Mary/BocaChicaGal got an evacuation notice for today & SpaceX have flight details up on the site!!
https://www.spacex.com/vehicles/starship/
So hopefully some excitement on this fine Thursday!

Bah humbug

Westernyelp · 28-01-2021 7:27pm

Looks like they are going for it. But who knows

Shlippery · 28-01-2021 7:52pm

Westernyelp wrote: »

Looks like they are going for it. But who knows

Seems like it's the FAA and not SpaceX scrubbing this.

Elon doesn't sound happy in latest tweet!

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1354862567680847876

josip · 28-01-2021 7:55pm

Shlippery wrote: »

Seems like it's the FAA and not SpaceX scrubbing this.

Elon doesn't sound happy in latest tweet!

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1354862567680847876

Musk going a bit Jack Ma here

jogdish · 28-01-2021 8:55pm

So it looks like a wet dress, static fire tonight?

Westernyelp · 28-01-2021 9:35pm

Seems like they are progressing. Maybe paperwork is through

jogdish · 28-01-2021 9:39pm

RGV tweeted the approval is back, but with no source, this is nuts.

jogdish · 28-01-2021 9:40pm

There is a tri vent now!!!! and no approval ???

irishgeo · 28-01-2021 9:42pm

jogdish wrote: »

There is a tri vent now!!!! and no approval ???

If they are doing anything without approval, they might never get another approval again.

Shlippery · 28-01-2021 10:07pm

Nah, they're not going this time, maybe time again in the window to go ahead but looks like FAA ain't budging on a safety window. Could be the jeep/boat that cruised by before last static fire..
https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1354895121117028352/photo/1

https://twitter.com/wapodavenport/status/1354892602907258883

Half the fun is in waiting
:P

AMKC · 28-01-2021 10:24pm

Just how many rockets and variants of rockets has Space X got?
Elon Musk must really be going full steam ahead with this. Why do we not hear anything about it in the mainstream media? IE: Sky, BBC, EURONEWS, RTE etc.

FFVII · 28-01-2021 10:31pm

AMKC wrote: »

Just how many rockets and variants of rockets has Space X got?
Elon Musk must really be going full steam ahead with this. Why do we not hear anything about it in the mainstream media? IE: Sky, BBC, EURONEWS, RTE etc.

Their does be.

Mainstream media is a lost cause in fairness though.

Space X

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