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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,717 ✭✭✭firemansam4


    Working tonight so missed it ☹ï¸â˜¹ï¸
    Hopefully get the chance to see what happened in next couple of hours.

    Sounds like things didn't go too bad with it anyway...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,283 ✭✭✭MayoForSam


    Working tonight so missed it ☹ï¸â˜¹ï¸
    Hopefully get the chance to see what happened in next couple of hours.

    Sounds like things didn't go too bad with it anyway...

    Scott Manley has a very good summary here about the flight:

    https://youtu.be/egHxiX40eJY


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,462 ✭✭✭jogdish


    SN9 has tipped over! might not have a second hop this calendar year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,394 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    The madness continues.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,462 ✭✭✭jogdish


    At the start of 2020 I was very cynical of Space X, after watching and getting very hyped for the hops I am very into the whole thing now, albeit still not an Elon fan. But I have heard:

    Starship point to point earth transport,
    Starship to Mars
    Same day reusability
    This grabber arm tweet.

    It's hard to know if Elon actually beleives this, tweets it for headlines or tweets it cause it crossed his mind. Personally I think people on a starship is a goal well into the future and the speed of current progress on Starship is litle indicator once you are attempting to make a human safe vehical which is a completely other task

    I see starship being a hauler to orbit in the near future and it will be a game changer in that respect which is a massive thing. The mars stuff, I still think is just Elon thinking out loud.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,394 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    https://www.tesmanian.com/blogs/tesmanian-blog/spacex-tom-cruise?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook&fbclid=IwAR3zXDKKPFsjjw_NYvCtLB1pGjxOAAlYaoPTftO76j_eekyPwD9ems3ZcGg

    All purely a publicity stunt, but I'm all up for space tourism if it helps commercialise space travel and therefore help bring in more money for space r&d.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 407 ✭✭tipp_tipp_tipp


    jogdish wrote: »
    I see starship being a hauler to orbit in the near future and it will be a game changer in that respect which is a massive thing. The mars stuff, I still think is just Elon thinking out loud.

    I think you make a good point here. In the early days of Falcon 9 I was always under the impressive Elon's talk of Mars was purely to drum up interest/investment in the company. When they went full steam ahead into starship development I found myself second guessing this. However looking at the numbers though, as you say starship promises to be a very cost effective way of getting stuff into Earth orbit, with no intention of going anywhere near Mars. I feel like Elon has been clever and covered all bases. Starship is being built with the intention of getting at least something to Mars, but if that fails it will not be a white elephant, and they will have the hauler that you describe.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,450 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    I think you make a good point here. In the early days of Falcon 9 I was always under the impressive Elon's talk of Mars was purely to drum up interest/investment in the company.

    You may have heard of 2001 :A Space Odyssey

    Anyway in the second book 2010: Odyssey Two the Chinese space station Tsien takes everyone by surprise by firing up and leaving Earth orbit.

    Maybe they'll do the opposite and setup a micro-nation in Low Earth Orbit :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,462 ✭✭✭jogdish


    Ya, it's a great albeit risky business and he some how gets Apple like adoration. SpaceX are now in bed with Nasa for missions to the ISS, Boeing still testing starliner.
    Then all of a sudden they are in the last three, and probably the last two for the lander part of NASA's moon mission. Two nice goverment contracts.

    Add in the re use of falcon and the global wifi thing, they seem to be going well. Mars is great and I hope we get there sooner rather than later.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 407 ✭✭tipp_tipp_tipp


    Maybe they'll do the opposite and setup a micro-nation in Low Earth Orbit :pac:

    That'd be gas. :D A bit like that self proclaimed country in the north sea on the old WW2 structures. Can't think of the name of it off the top of my head.

    Does raise some interesting questions about if he sets up a colony on Mars. Does that mean is he own Mars and can define Martian law? :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,394 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    That'd be gas. :D A bit like that self proclaimed country in the north sea on the old WW2 structures. Can't think of the name of it off the top of my head.

    Does raise some interesting questions about if he sets up a colony on Mars. Does that mean is he own Mars and can define Martian law? :)

    Cannabis and DMT would definitely be fully legalized on Mars if it was up to Musk anyways ha.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,465 ✭✭✭MOH


    That'd be gas. :D A bit like that self proclaimed country in the north sea on the old WW2 structures. Can't think of the name of it off the top of my head.

    Does raise some interesting questions about if he sets up a colony on Mars. Does that mean is he own Mars and can define Martian law? :)

    Wasn't it just called Freeland?

    I was going to make a joke about Trump trying to invoke Martian law, But actually: possibly? At the end of the day, the guy in charge of the company which supplies all your daily life support requirements is going to have a fair say in who's allowed do what (cf: Total Recall).

    By the time it gets dragged through the courts 87 million miles away it's unlikely to help you. Actually, Elon Cohaagen sounds like a good South African name.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,868 ✭✭✭donspeekinglesh


    MOH wrote: »
    Wasn't it just called Freeland?

    I was going to make a joke about Trump trying to invoke Martian law, But actually: possibly? At the end of the day, the guy in charge of the company which supplies all your daily life support requirements is going to have a fair say in who's allowed do what (cf: Total Recall).

    By the time it gets dragged through the courts 87 million miles away it's unlikely to help you. Actually, Elon Cohaagen sounds like a good South African name.

    Sealand


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,465 ✭✭✭MOH



    Doh! I was so close. And yet that's far more obvious. Thanks, it was bugging me


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,462 ✭✭✭jogdish


    Another static fire of SN9 it seems tonight after yesterdays shorter than usual static fire. The flight notice for Friday still remains - but there is always some delay it seems (which is to be expected given what they are doing)

    After seeing SN8 I really would not be surprised to see SN9 do a perfect test.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,462 ✭✭✭jogdish


    So the three static fires, two engines being replaced and another round of static fires to come for SN9 - Hopefully they can launch and stick the landing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,462 ✭✭✭jogdish


    Just (tried) to watch the Tim Dodd Everyday astronaut drive thru of Boca, cool idea wish his data held up, pretty much unwatchable. It's amazing how much of a cobbled together operation it looks from the outside.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,381 ✭✭✭Westernyelp


    jogdish wrote:
    Just (tried) to watch the Tim Dodd Everyday astronaut drive thru of Boca, cool idea wish his data held up, pretty much unwatchable. It's amazing how much of a cobbled together operation it looks from the outside.


    NASAspaceflight do a drive round the site most weeks


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,450 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Lets hope the next test doesn't have a green flame. Could mean boron or copper in the exhaust. And it isn't boron.

    Copper is generally used for it's good thermal conductivity not as a propellant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,381 ✭✭✭Westernyelp


    Copper is generally used for it's good thermal conductivity not as a propellant.


    Engine rich exhaust 🀣


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,462 ✭✭✭jogdish


    Static Fire possible for today, ugh all aboard the excitement abort frustration excitement repeat train again


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,462 ✭✭✭jogdish


    no static fire today

    and true again today - Wednesday.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,261 ✭✭✭Shlippery


    Many many static fire aborts yesterday...one of them potentially for a range violation where a lad and his boat just zoomed by the launchpad.

    Really really wanna see SN9 fly but feel like there's always one or two minor setbacks! Watching live streams is always nicely disappointing when you're a minute or two away then..abort abort abort!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,462 ✭✭✭jogdish


    Shlippery wrote: »
    Many many static fire aborts yesterday...one of them potentially for a range violation where a lad and his boat just zoomed by the launchpad.

    Really really wanna see SN9 fly but feel like there's also one or two minor setbacks! Watching live streams is always nicely disappointing when you're a minute or two away then..abort abort abort!
    Yup, so annoying.
    Part of me thinks the aborts might be planned in some cases - there just seems to be so many getting so close to the wire.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,462 ✭✭✭jogdish


    Another bad static fire, seems odd. Imagine we were all thinking there was a possibility of a late December 2020 hop


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,261 ✭✭✭Shlippery


    At least SN10 is more or less ready to go as well...still - if you look back to Feb 2020 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UsCCRGLP0Q - they've progressed a ridiculous amount in that space. We're spoilt really. That being said...it's so damn impressive. People think i'm crazy when I mention what's going on at Boca Chica!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,462 ✭✭✭jogdish


    Managed to catch the static fire on sn9 today, around 2/3pm odd time - sounded good and seems to be all systems go for a 10k 'hop' now i guess.

    I watch most of this stuff with NSF on youtube, it's amazing how much coverage those guys get, turned on today to find a stream of an Oil rig being floated into port that spacex bought, and they have a second near Boca. It really is nuts.

    How on earth do NSF support having a crew/camera almost everywhere? The super chats can't be doing everything.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,261 ✭✭✭Shlippery


    jogdish wrote: »
    Managed to catch the static fire on sn9 today, around 2/3pm odd time - sounded good and seems to be all systems go for a 10k 'hop' now i guess.

    I watch most of this stuff with NSF on youtube, it's amazing how much coverage those guys get, turned on today to find a stream of an Oil rig being floated into port that spacex bought, and they have a second near Boca. It really is nuts.

    How on earth do NSF support having a crew/camera almost everywhere? The super chats can't be doing everything.

    LabPadre too are the other guys who have even more cameras at other angles. They had a good one of the foggy Static Fire!

    Elon said there they're hoping to attempt SN9 early next week..so could be Monday!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KycyWcxWTcY <- saw this excellent video on Twitter which shows the plumbing behind it!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,462 ✭✭✭jogdish


    Ya that's a great render of the fuel, whenever I see these i am always struck by how simple the whole things is, two barrels of fuel and the thing to set it on fire and exhausts it - yet it's clearly not simple at all. A simple photo of the raptor shows the amount of pipes etc.

    Fleix on whataboutit says bad weather for next week, so could be another few delays but hopefully a hop soon, to start the hype train all over again with SN10, they really must be pumping those raptor engines out at the factory.

    The super heavy booster will need more, it's crazy to think we will have seen a Starship land from a hop and a booster small hop by mid year probably. I think the next big but not exciting thing will be to get everything nailed down so that aborts etc mean hour or two delays and not day delays or heck even minutes. Really puts SLS into perspective - I like SLS just it's so much easier to get excited about starship. However starship is at stage one - it will slow down massively when they start to look for certifications for being considered as a launch provider.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,462 ✭✭✭jogdish


    Might be a launch of SN9 today,25/1 seems to be likely from 6pm irish time onwards - but could be called off at any stage.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,261 ✭✭✭Shlippery


    Yup, up to 1am or there abouts I think. They've attached the flight termination thing that means they can blow it up if anything goes wrong..which I think is an indicator they can't do any more static fires... so fingers crossed it gets up and down gracefully.

    Exciting!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,462 ✭✭✭jogdish


    booooo, no flight today booo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,297 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Why did Space X name there rockers SN? Does it stand for something?
    Space Neatral maybe.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,318 ✭✭✭✭Ha Long Bay


    AMKC wrote: »
    Why did Space X name there rockers SN? Does it stand for something?
    Space Neatral maybe.




    According to Wiki it's serial number.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpaceX_Starship

    "In September 2019 Musk unveiled Starship Mk1, a more advanced test article.[53][54] The Mk1 was destroyed in a tank pressure test in November, and SpaceX ceased construction on the Mk2 prototype in Florida and moved on to work on the Mk3 article.[55] Adopting a new "serial number" nomenclature, the Mk3 article was renamed Starship SN1 by SpaceX to signify the major evolution in building techniques: the rings were now taller and each was made of one single sheet of steel, drastically reducing the welding lines (thus failure points). "


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,297 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    john4321 wrote: »
    According to Wiki it's serial number.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpaceX_Starship

    "In September 2019 Musk unveiled Starship Mk1, a more advanced test article.[53][54] The Mk1 was destroyed in a tank pressure test in November, and SpaceX ceased construction on the Mk2 prototype in Florida and moved on to work on the Mk3 article.[55] Adopting a new "serial number" nomenclature, the Mk3 article was renamed Starship SN1 by SpaceX to signify the major evolution in building techniques: the rings were now taller and each was made of one single sheet of steel, drastically reducing the welding lines (thus failure points). "

    Awe very good. Thank you for that.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,462 ✭✭✭jogdish


    AMKC wrote: »
    Awe very good. Thank you for that.


    And the boosters are called ' BN '


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,261 ✭✭✭Shlippery


    Looks like they're skipping today and going for tomorrow.

    https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1354015481217359878


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,261 ✭✭✭Shlippery


    Feel like the weather kept it delayed til now...but..


    Mary/BocaChicaGal got an evacuation notice for today & SpaceX have flight details up on the site!!
    https://www.spacex.com/vehicles/starship/
    So hopefully some excitement on this fine Thursday!


    Bah humbug

    xH26M5A.png


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,381 ✭✭✭Westernyelp


    Looks like they are going for it. But who knows


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,261 ✭✭✭Shlippery


    Looks like they are going for it. But who knows

    Seems like it's the FAA and not SpaceX scrubbing this.

    Elon doesn't sound happy in latest tweet!

    https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1354862567680847876


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,151 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Shlippery wrote: »
    Seems like it's the FAA and not SpaceX scrubbing this.

    Elon doesn't sound happy in latest tweet!

    https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1354862567680847876


    Musk going a bit Jack Ma here


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,462 ✭✭✭jogdish


    So it looks like a wet dress, static fire tonight?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,381 ✭✭✭Westernyelp


    Seems like they are progressing. Maybe paperwork is through


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,462 ✭✭✭jogdish


    RGV tweeted the approval is back, but with no source, this is nuts.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,462 ✭✭✭jogdish


    There is a tri vent now!!!! and no approval ???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,527 ✭✭✭irishgeo


    jogdish wrote: »
    There is a tri vent now!!!! and no approval ???

    If they are doing anything without approval, they might never get another approval again.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,261 ✭✭✭Shlippery


    Nah, they're not going this time, maybe time again in the window to go ahead but looks like FAA ain't budging on a safety window. Could be the jeep/boat that cruised by before last static fire..
    https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1354895121117028352/photo/1


    https://twitter.com/wapodavenport/status/1354892602907258883

    Half the fun is in waiting
    :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,297 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Just how many rockets and variants of rockets has Space X got?
    Elon Musk must really be going full steam ahead with this. Why do we not hear anything about it in the mainstream media? IE: Sky, BBC, EURONEWS, RTE etc.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭FFVII


    AMKC wrote: »
    Just how many rockets and variants of rockets has Space X got?
    Elon Musk must really be going full steam ahead with this. Why do we not hear anything about it in the mainstream media? IE: Sky, BBC, EURONEWS, RTE etc.
    Their does be.


    Mainstream media is a lost cause in fairness though.


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