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The Orphanage The Hague

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,554 ✭✭✭bjork


    Einhard wrote: »
    What the hell is FDS?

    Also, that place seems like a pretty unique moment in time. Don't think you have to necessarily condone actions or behaviour to be fascinated by it.

    I wonder does Von Bismarck wander over to the History thread now and then to make snide comments when people discuss the Romans and their particular brand of craziness?

    FDS FTS was a company that brought people over from Ireland, got them jobs, accommodation all bills paid for

    Fitzwilliam Technical Services


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    BD45 wrote: »
    Why are people proud of drunk, drugged up losers giving Irish people a bad name in the Netherlands?

    Was it not the same when the Irish went to New York, Five points, dead rabbits, etc only difference is the ones in New York stayed there :-) :-) :-)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,554 ✭✭✭bjork


    Lapin wrote: »
    We got work out of this massive flower auction place south of the city. Bloomingveilinginginjinjinjin or something like that it was called. .....
    .......

    All aboard the little train, It's lunchtime! :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,951 ✭✭✭6541


    realies wrote: »
    Was it not the same when the Irish went to New York, Five points, dead rabbits, etc only difference is the ones in New York stayed there :-) :-) :-)

    It was I guess, unusual to have such an amount of Irish in a non-English speaking country. I always thoughts that FTS were a front for the IRA or at least some sort of criminals. I had no proof but they were so connected it was unreal, houses around Europe and contracts everywhere.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,792 ✭✭✭taytobreath


    I stayed there after doing a summer cuttin lettuce with fts and in the arsehole of know where. free flights free accomodation in a poxy caravan. nothin wrong with it when ure 18.

    i remember an Irish girl in the hostel tellin me she got arrested there and they took her passport and she was a heroin addict that couldnt get back to Ireland because of it. (sry bout the wording)
    so many irish met their downfall over there. I remember 1 fella had aids and he couldnt go home cause his family were to ashamed of him, died there too. so sad when u think of it.
    id love to know how that poor girl is.
    1 thing i do remeber was they looked out for me there i remeber guys tellin me nott to leave my stuff in particular places etc etc, scary tho.


    jesus thanks for bringing those memories back to me


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭Duck's hoop


    The Irish the Irish the Irish the Irish the Irish the Irish the Irish the Irish the Irish.

    Bunch of redneck try-hards I'd say. Like those 2 eejits from Bansha ended up filled full of self expanding foam in 2000.

    Thread is a bit cringe tbf.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,951 ✭✭✭6541


    The Irish the Irish the Irish the Irish the Irish the Irish the Irish the Irish the Irish.

    Bunch of redneck try-hards I'd say. Like those 2 eejits from Bansha ended up filled full of self expanding foam in 2000.

    Thread is a bit cringe tbf.

    Its a story that needs to be told, I agree a lot of People met there Waterloo over there.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,004 ✭✭✭mitresize5


    As some one mentioned Den Hagg, Munich etc ... were the Australia of the early 90's.

    The Eurolines Bus all the way to Holland for 30 pound one way.

    Spent a season camping on Monster beach camp site about 10kms from Den Hagg. Working the green houses or for one horrendous fortnight the concrete. Summer of 95 now that I remember it. Hottest summer in a long time for a lot of Europe. 6am to 2pm in the greenhouse. 2pm to 6pm on the beach smoking dope and drinking grolsh looking at young ones sunbathing topless which was a big deal for a 19 year old west of Ireland lad.

    Friday evening into Den Hagg with the pay packet, off the face on yokes listening to heavy industrial techno at clubs and squat parties and all struggle home at some point one by one on Sunday.

    Nostalgic for sure and something I'm smiling about now but in hindsight of the eight of us that went over two ended up with serious issues with heroin. Just didn't know where to draw the line. Thankfully both on the straight and narrow now.

    If my lads come into me in a few years and say their off to Holland for the summer I think I'd chain them to the bed posts before Id let them go


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,951 ✭✭✭6541


    mitresize5 wrote: »
    As some one mentioned Den Hagg, Munich etc ... were the Australia of the early 90's.

    The Eurolines Bus all the way to Holland for 30 pound one way.

    Spent a season camping on Monster beach camp site about 10kms from Den Hagg. Working the green houses or for one horrendous fortnight the concrete. Summer of 95 now that I remember it. Hottest summer in a long time for a lot of Europe. 6am to 2pm in the greenhouse. 2pm to 6pm on the beach smoking dope and drinking grolsh looking at young ones sunbathing topless which was a big deal for a 19 year old west of Ireland lad.

    Friday evening into Den Hagg with the pay packet, off the face on yokes listening to heavy industrial techno at clubs and squat parties and all struggle home at some point one by one on Sunday.

    Nostalgic for sure and something I'm smiling about now but in hindsight of the eight of us that went over two ended up with serious issues with heroin. Just didn't know where to draw the line. Thankfully both on the straight and narrow now.

    If my lads come into me in a few years and say their off to Holland for the summer I think I'd chain them to the bed posts before Id let them go



    it was serious alright. Drugs were a big part of it and destroyed many people. i actually don't really like Holland and generally if someone suggested a stag or whatever there i would be like no, I am okay I have done my time.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭Magico Gonzalez


    No Den Haag but spent a summer (99?) in Noordwijlk working the bulb factories living on a campsite. Bedlam barely describes it.

    Can't remember the agency but I remember they held 50% of your pay until you finished. I believe they made a fair rake of cash off the sort of binlids who got deported (there were a few) or simply cracked and headed home in a rush.

    Campsite flooded a fair few times based on the wet Dutch summer, proximity to canals etc. Nothing like coming home wasted after a shift packing bulbs, only to see your tent and belongings floating about in a field.

    And no, it's fair to say that some of the Irish (mostly from Belfast, Derry and border areas) did not have a great name over there. We were kind of the exception in that we had either just finished universirty of were finished and off to do a post graduate. There were some serious scrotes; fights, shoplifting and other anti-social nonsense. Saw a few lads from Derry hospitalised with burns after trying to light a gas stove inside a small two man tent. Saw someone rip half their face off after trying to ride a bike on acid. There was a local gang of dealers who kicked several shades of shyte out of a few of the irish, there were some squaddies who appeared at the local bar (Scotch Bar) the odd time. Usually off their tits protesting that they weren't bad people. Teenagers, early 20's on yokes mostly.

    Really, carnage. Still, it was worth it as on Sat am after payday it was straight into Amsterdam to return back to camp in absolute bits on Sunday morning. 24 hours of madness every weekend.

    Nearly killed me. Would not repeat, some fond (not sure how!) memories though.

    As I understand it now, most of those jobs are taken up by lower wage workers from eastern and central europe. I know a few lads who went back for the winter season, but the snuck off in the middle of the night after their first week as it was basically a prison camp!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,951 ✭✭✭6541


    Can somebody post a picture of The Orphanage.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 772 ✭✭✭the dark phantom


    BD45 wrote: »
    Why are people proud of drunk, drugged up losers giving Irish people a bad name in the Netherlands?

    I hate that myself. I've a lot of respect for the Dutch and their country.

    I also worked for FTS, Was Tom Hillary picked me up at Schiphol in 1999. Did any of ye know Vinny from Galway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,951 ✭✭✭6541


    I hate that myself. I've a lot of respect for the Dutch and their country.

    I also worked for FTS, Was Tom Hillary picked me up at Schiphol in 1999. Did any of ye know Vinny from Galway.

    Tom Hillary was actually a fair man, no I don't think I met Vinny.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4 deedeepat


    I was visiting my brother in Schevenigen and having had one too many in the Kickaboo before catching the flight home (which we missed ) we ended up in the Ophanage , crazy experience, this was early 90s one of the lads was going out with the bar maid from the kickaboo I think they called her mad Mary , she was tiny , my brother worked for Icds and his name was Gerry Brogan I think they called him the black dub , he sadly passed away last year


  • Registered Users Posts: 1 ernieb17


    I hate that myself. I've a lot of respect for the Dutch and their country.

    I also worked for FTS, Was Tom Hillary picked me up at Schiphol in 1999. Did any of ye know Vinny from Galway.

    i met him a few times with tom and and another fella with dark skin and strong dublin accent.lived in the nerkada in den haag in 1999.good times


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1 LorneMalvo


    Obvious recent situation we all find ourselves in making me think back to more fun times.... and meat packing factory stories reminded me of some of the (many, many) crappier jobs have done before.... and when I was the 'immigrant worker' 😬

    This came up in a search..... brought back some old memories! Spent a summer in Netherlands in late 90's, with FTS. Had no money, couldn't afford J1/flights to US ..... Netherlands it was.....loved it! Haha..... was never in the Orphanage (wasn't based in Den Haag, more Nord Holland..... 1st Job too far f*cking North!).... but a lot of general sentiment about that time, in that country, with that company, very familiar ðŸ˜

    Doesn't seem to be something that happens so much anymore since the 90's...... The Irish heading to Netherlands (or rest of Europe) for these types of jobs & experiences. Of course I realise the 'celtic tiger' main reason for that 😬 But any older folk like me have any fond memories of those times when we did ? Whether it be in the slight 'madness' that was Netherlands for vegetable (or worse, bulb picking) season or anywhere else 😅


  • Registered Users Posts: 3 claireyfairy


    i lived in The Orphanage around 1999

    first I worked for FTS in andijk in a bulb factory then went to Den Haag and worked in a glass house.

    was a mad place I remember some of the people well. Sharon and Spud. The girls from Bray Margaret and a red haired girl. The mad lads from Waterford Trevor and his friend.

    it was the accommodation provided and we slept on mattresses the pace was in ruins.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,951 ✭✭✭6541


    Nice one @claireyfairy. This is all part of the lesser know Irish Migrations stories. Thanks for your input !



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,850 ✭✭✭Lillyfae



    I'm so curious about this place. I lived in the Hague for a couple of years in the early 2000s and heard whispers about it, for some reason I have it in my head that it was around Spui? Dark skin and a Dublin accent- was that the guy that had The Shillelaigh pub on the Javastraat?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    There's a massive thread about this squat on Boards from back in the day when boards had a users base. Use the search function



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,850 ✭✭✭Lillyfae




  • Registered Users Posts: 3 claireyfairy


    I really cant find where it was I have checked google maps but haven’t seen it. I do remember there were black metal railings outside it and it was back off the footpath a bit as there was a driveway as you walked up to building



  • Registered Users Posts: 3 claireyfairy


    can’t find another thread what did you search?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,697 ✭✭✭dasdog


    Lived out of a caravan in Noordwijkerhout in 1996 for a summer. The warehouse parties that started at midnight and ended when the Dutch police arrived at 10am on Sunday morning - I don't think anyone that hasn't been there can criticise or comment. Madness. The pinnacle was Dance Valley - and it was a bit strange having tickets to get in to an event with security.




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