TAMS II

Sami23 · 06-09-2016 12:17pm

Sorry everyone for all the questions but just looking at the reference costs for slatted tanks and see figures for excavation, floor, walls, backfilling etc.
Are all these included in the tank coatings excel sheet or do I have to do them separately ?

FeelTheBern · 06-09-2016 1:22pm

Sami23 wrote: »

Sorry everyone for all the questions but just looking at the reference costs for slatted tanks and see figures for excavation, floor, walls, backfilling etc.
Are all these included in the tank coatings excel sheet or do I have to do them separately ?

You can ignore those - the costs are factored into the tank costing excel sheet

Count Mondego · 06-09-2016 1:51pm

Charliebull wrote: »

let me get this straight so

when we submit invoices for payment claim, they will only add up the net (vat exclusive) amounts when comparing to the approved figure

I believe so. They specifically say that the net value has to be calculated on the invoice. This makes sense as they give you 60% of the net as the grant and you claim for the VAT back separately. In total you'll get 65-70% of the shed paid for between grant and VAT. That's my interpretation of it anyway.

Charliebull · 06-09-2016 2:10pm

Count Mondego wrote: »

I believe so. They specifically say that the net value has to be calculated on the invoice. This makes sense as they give you 60% of the net as the grant and you claim for the VAT back separately. In total you'll get 65-70% of the shed paid for between grant and VAT. That's my interpretation of it anyway.

only if your lucky enough to be under 40;)

Count Mondego · 06-09-2016 3:44pm

Charliebull wrote: »

only if your lucky enough to be under 40;)

lol, I do appreciate it mind you!

Dozer1 · 06-09-2016 4:19pm

under 40 and less than 5 years farming drives me mental I'm missing out on the 60% grant and that I also missed installation aid...

Charliebull · 06-09-2016 4:36pm

Dozer1 wrote: »

under 40 and less than 5 years farming drives me mental I'm missing out on the 60% grant and that I also missed installation aid...

getting old is a bastard, mind you it has some perks

Sami23 · 07-09-2016 10:04am

Just another quick one. When giving internal measurements for slatted area do you measure from the inside of the girder or measure from internal face of proposed wall as this would be smaller on narrow side of girder ?

dungfly · 07-09-2016 8:44pm

Tyson Lannister wrote: »

If you got planning permission you shouldn't need to draw a farmyard sketch
- you should be able to use the site layout submitted for PP. It has to be at a scale of 1/500 or won't be accepted. Drawings of shed to be at 1/100 or 1/200.
A lot of drawings which were used to obtain planning are being returned by the dept of ag as not having enough details.

What kind of detail do they require from the drawings. From the TAMS frequently asked questions they appear to just show the external dimensions (length x breath).

I have measured all my buildings (L xB). How do I make s scaled drawing?

Sami23 · 07-09-2016 9:19pm

dungfly wrote: »

What kind of detail do they require from the drawings. From the TAMS frequently asked questions they appear to just show the external dimensions (length x breath).

I have measured all my buildings (L xB). How do I make s scaled drawing?

I think it is the internal dimensions of all animal housing you need to show on buildings and slatted tank drawings.

Tyson Lannister · 08-09-2016 11:44pm

dungfly wrote: »

What kind of detail do they require from the drawings. From the TAMS frequently asked questions they appear to just show the external dimensions (length x breath).

I have measured all my buildings (L xB). How do I make s scaled drawing?

Ok you convert all your measurements to mm and divide by 500, thats the size they must be on your sheet. Have you obtained PP for your proposed shed? It should already be done if you have. I can PM you an example of drawings if you want them

Sami23 · 09-09-2016 6:53am

Tyson Lannister wrote: »

Ok you convert all your measurements to mm and divide by 500, thats the size they must be on your sheet. Have you obtained PP for your proposed shed? It should already be done if you have. I can PM you an example of drawings if you want them

Just on that are the drawings and site layout map used for planning good enough to submit for the Tams application or would they need to be modified as in taking out the FFL's etc. Also would more detail need to be added to the drawings for buildings ?
If you wouldn't mind PM me an example of acceptable drawings for Tams it would be very much appreciated.

Sami23 · 05-10-2016 7:31am

So eventually I got my application submitted last week before the deadline. Just wondering how long will it be before I hear anything from the dept. about it ?
How long did it take for those of you further down the line than me.

adne · 05-10-2016 9:36am

Sami23 wrote: »

So eventually I got my application submitted last week before the deadline. Just wondering how long will it be before I hear anything from the dept. about it ?
How long did it take for those of you further down the line than me.

I applied in the first tranche in sept 15. Got approved in aug 16.
They blamed the computer system for the delay !!!

topaha · 05-10-2016 10:11am

Applied by March 25th this year. Got approval in Mid-July.

Sami23 · 05-10-2016 10:14am

topaha wrote: »

Applied by March 25th this year. Got approval in Mid-July.

That was good enough.
I'd b happy just to have it by next spring and have the shed ready for next winter.

Was yours a slatted shed too or something else and had you any correspondence from them during that time ?

Timmaay · 05-10-2016 10:30am

topaha wrote: »

Applied by March 25th this year. Got approval in Mid-July.

That sounds reasonable, I applied in the June tranche and have heard nothing yet.

topaha · 05-10-2016 11:07am

slatted shed, nothing out of the ordinary.

Had no correspondence with them until the approval letter arrived. No queries nor RFI's or anything. I had heard all the horror stories of people waiting for so long to get approval so i can't really complain.

Where are you based? It would worth contacting someone in the department near you to ask a few questions once you've it sent in.

Sami23 · 05-10-2016 12:02pm

topaha wrote: »

slatted shed, nothing out of the ordinary.

Had no correspondence with them until the approval letter arrived. No queries nor RFI's or anything. I had heard all the horror stories of people waiting for so long to get approval so i can't really complain.

Where are you based? It would worth contacting someone in the department near you to ask a few questions once you've it sent in.

Galway

FeelTheBern · 05-10-2016 1:06pm

Timmaay wrote: »

topaha wrote: »

Applied by March 25th this year. Got approval in Mid-July.

That sounds reasonable, I applied in the June tranche and have heard nothing yet.

Likewise applied in June tranche and no word yet

MasFer · 05-12-2016 10:35pm

Trying to submit a TAMS11 application for a Slatted Shed.

On costs, do the proposed costs I enter in the online application include or exclude VAT?

Thanks

White Clover · 05-12-2016 10:37pm

MasFer wrote: »

Trying to submit a TAMS11 application for a Slatted Shed.

On costs, do the proposed costs I enter in the online application include or exclude VAT?

Thanks

That'd be ex VAT

FeelTheBern · 05-12-2016 10:37pm

Exclude as I recall

Sugarbowl · 06-12-2016 1:00am

Anyone know in the Tams application, must planning permission be approved before you apply? Or must you just have applied for permission? Or can you apply for tams before planning permission is ever applied? Thanks

Tyson Lannister · 06-12-2016 2:01am

Sugarbowl wrote: »

Anyone know in the Tams application, must planning permission be approved before you apply? Or must you just have applied for permission? Or can you apply for tams before planning permission is ever applied? Thanks

Need to be planning approved- plans need to be stamped by the council before they are submitted and grant of permission and conditions also need to be included.

Count Mondego · 06-12-2016 2:18am

Anyone submit a claim yet for a shed? If so, how did you get on?

Freejin · 20-03-2017 4:18pm

Count Mondego wrote: »

Anyone submit a claim yet for a shed? If so, how did you get on?

Just submitted my claim today ( fingers crossed its all in order). Anybody have experience of claims, what kind of time frame before they call out and inspect etc?

valtra2 · 19-04-2017 11:03pm

Still trying to put in a claim. Can I say the ppl working in the dep of ag are either really good at saving money for the department or just really fxxxing usless. Never again will I ever go for a grant.

Timmaay · 19-04-2017 11:19pm

valtra2 wrote: »

Still trying to put in a claim. Can I say the ppl working in the dep of ag are either really good at saving money for the department or just really fxxxing usless. Never again will I ever go for a grant.

Ya mind explaining more ha? You were refused a claim on something you had approval for? And if so why not?

Just got approval here to start work on one of the applications I put on last dec, I'll admit right at the minute I'm unsure I'll even go ahead with it. Still waiting for approval for a slatted tank and shed extension, that went in on Dec also, but I assume the planning slows down that approval.

Parishlad · 28-04-2017 3:12pm

I have planning gone in to include a new slatted unit (3 bay with creep), loose house and a general storage area. You can see from the attached plan that they are all just sections of the one building really.
I am going to apply for the grant for the slatted shed and the loose house. What I am wondering is how will it work out in terms of splitting up what falls under the grant and what doesn't.

For example:

- The wall that divides the loose house and the Tool/Storage areas....can this be claimed, half of it, none of it etc.
- I plan on concreting more than would be claimable outside the slatted shed and in front of the loose house so in general I suppose would i need to somehow have invoices/receipts for just the areas that fall under the grant or could I just work out how much would apply to the 'grant areas' and claim for that while submitting an invoice/receipt for a greater amount?

I know that this is a fairly specific situation but maybe someone here has gone through something similar and can offer some advice.
don't plan on starting to build until next year anyway and that's assuming I get planning, grant and can arrange finance. If not then I'll stick with what i have!

Count Mondego · 28-04-2017 6:40pm

I think there's a 'common wall' value that you use for that.

farming93 · 11-05-2017 11:09am

I was thinking of putting up a new slatted shed (4 bay) with a lie back area on the bottom half of our yard is it likely that I would get the tams grant for it as the yard is not on the maps but is beside my house instead. It would be handy for checking cattle calving during the night and also I only rent land so at least the shed will always be there for me if I ever lose the land. I qualify for the tams grant (I am a young trained farmer) but dont want to go to the hassle of getting planning and then find out I cant get the grant for the shed just because where I want to build it isnt on my area aid map? Any opinions on it are welcome

razor8 · 03-08-2018 9:10pm

Can you get a grant for a meal bin only under the tams 11 scheme gone by?

Cavanjack · 03-08-2018 9:19pm

razor8 wrote: »

Can you get a grant for a meal bin only under the tams 11 scheme gone by?

If You are a dairy farmer yes.

razor8 · 03-08-2018 9:38pm

Only a poor sheep farmer

sea12 · 03-08-2018 10:16pm

Where is the application form for tams 2 for sheep fencing. I can see all the terms and conditions sheets but not the application form

Timmaay · 03-08-2018 10:26pm

Cavanjack wrote: »

If You are a dairy farmer yes.

And only if you are buying a full parlour meal feeding system at the same time.

MfMan · 05-09-2018 4:16pm

Want to build a new holding pen and cattle crush, but have a lot of the crush pipe myself and a few other things. Can one apply for TAMS aid for certain individual things like a crush wall, gates and concrete floor? Or does it have to be for the complete crush / structure itself? A crush had been referenced in earlier documentation I read as far as I remember, but it necessitated also putting in an effluent tank somewhere near one end, which I don't want to do as it wouldn't be worth it.

tanko · 30-11-2019 6:53pm

Anyone know if the replacement of slats is grant aided under the current TAMS scheme for sheds with internal agitation points??

mr.stonewall · 30-11-2019 7:39pm

tanko wrote: »

Anyone know if the replacement of slats is grant aided under the current TAMS scheme for sheds with internal agitation points??

All agitation points have to be outside with all tams jobs. Way around it could be to remove roof over the points

mickey1985 · 22-12-2019 8:12pm

Lads do you know if you have the be a certain distance away from a slatted tank for to get the dairy equipment grant.

jfh · 22-12-2019 9:11pm

tanko wrote: »

Anyone know if the replacement of slats is grant aided under the current TAMS scheme for sheds with internal agitation points??

Not when I applied few years ago

Cavanjack · 22-12-2019 9:16pm

tanko wrote: »

Anyone know if the replacement of slats is grant aided under the current TAMS scheme for sheds with internal agitation points??

Not with internal agi points. There is a grant to extend the tank outside the shed alright

sandman30 · 23-12-2019 7:53am

sea12 wrote: »

Where is the application form for tams 2 for sheep fencing. I can see all the terms and conditions sheets but not the application form

It is in the AWNS (Animal welfare and nutrient storage section)

MeTheMan · 23-12-2019 8:11am

jfh wrote: »

Not when I applied few years ago

It there aid to replace slates when agitation points are outside??

Will TAMs be finished 2020?

mr.stonewall · 23-12-2019 8:20am

MeTheMan wrote: »

It there aid to replace slates when agitation points are outside??

Will TAMs be finished 2020?

Yep there is. Did it in 2017. Did a good whack of the work myself bar placing the slats and most of the reference cast was gone with the slats

MeTheMan · 23-12-2019 8:24pm

mr.stonewall wrote: »

Yep there is. Did it in 2017. Did a good whack of the work myself bar placing the slats and most of the reference cast was gone with the slats

What slats did ya go with? We are looking at replacing timber slats with the plastic ones.

mr.stonewall · 23-12-2019 11:40pm

MeTheMan wrote: »

What slats did ya go with? We are looking at replacing timber slats with the plastic ones.

Was concrete cattle slats, went with Fogarty/campions

Aravo · 08-01-2020 3:30pm

Are meal bins now included for everyone for tams 2.
Also can a grant be got for resurfacing with concrete a general yard area or does it have to be an animal collection area or a silage slab etc. The current concrete is old and needs to be redone.

Cavanjack · 08-01-2020 3:33pm

Aravo wrote: »

Are meal bins now included for everyone for tams 2.
Also can a grant be got for resurfacing with concrete a general yard area or does it have to be an animal collection area or a silage slab etc. The current concrete is old and needs to be redone.

Grant is available on a Meal bin. Yard I don’t think so. Silage pit yes

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