EB License for towing

Del2005 · 11-09-2017 4:30pm

lefthooker wrote: »

There was no theory test when I got the B license. What I hate about the theory test is I can pass today and fail tomorrow by a mark or two because the same questions can have multiple equally correct answers. And it's never the logical one

The questions only ever have 1 correct answer, there are some questions that similar. Just get the theory test or DVD book from your local library and study it.

lefthooker · 11-09-2017 4:52pm

Del2005 wrote: »

The questions only ever have 1 correct answer, there are some questions that similar. Just get the theory test or DVD book from your local library and study it.

What I mean is when doing the practice test online, in the set of 40 questions the same question can be asked multiple times with different options each time.

adam14 · 11-09-2017 5:54pm

lefthooker wrote:

Oh right. Didn't know that. I was told different by the NDLS when I inquired.

Marco Faint Architecture wrote:

You don't need to get any lessons unless you want to.

No you don't but I would highly recommend you get one and a pre test. It's not that easy to do the test. Especially the reversing. I thought the lessons were useful and I probably would have failed otherwise.

foxy farmer · 11-09-2017 8:52pm

lakill Farm wrote: »

Both examples should be illegal. A Land Rover and a John deere

Wouldn't be so funny if every farmer in the country had to do a test to get W on their licence. A huge cash cow waiting to be milked.
Going by this country's increasing love of bureaucracy Id say that it will become a requirement in the future. Tractors today are a far cry from Massey 135 and ford 4000.
Tractor NCT on the way.

boardsuser1 · 11-09-2017 9:24pm

foxy farmer wrote: »

Wouldn't be so funny if every farmer in the country had to do a test to get W on their licence. A huge cash cow waiting to be milked.
Going by this country's increasing love of bureaucracy Id say that it will become a requirement in the future. Tractors today are a far cry from Massey 135 and ford 4000.
Tractor NCT on the way.

http://www.farmersjournal.ie/tractor-nct-everything-you-need-to-know-262014

Zr105 · 11-09-2017 10:38pm

lakill Farm wrote: »

W licence is tractor and trailer and no weight limit Once the trailer and tractor meets the regulations since Jan 2016.

Also some rule about commercial use of over 100km from your address in a tractor. But that's for commercial tractor tax not agri tractor tax.

That's exactly what I meant, I've never once seen it officially written that you need a c licence to tow a digger yet plenty online seem to think that is the case.

I do know that a lot of insurance compnies do not cover you to move a digger for someone else unless you have specifically listed it when setting out the policy.

Where the guards can get you is that if you are moving the digger, or a load of stone etc, for hire and reward purposes the tractor is supposed to be taxed for haulage at €300 odd instead of the regular Agri tax of €102

patsy_mccabe · 18-07-2019 2:57pm

Confused by this. I don't have an EB Licence (learner form says 'BE', by the way.
I decided to get it sorted at last so got an application form in the local Garda Station. Form is for 'Learner Permit D201'. So if I go down this route, I get a Learner EB Licence but still need a fully qualified EB driver with me?????

I'm drving over 30 years without an accident.

Or will they give me a Profisional Licence instead and I put up P plates?

Base price · 18-07-2019 3:10pm

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Confused by this. I don't have an EB Licence (learner form says 'BE', by the way.
I decided to get it sorted at last so got an application form in the local Garda Station. Form is for 'Learner Permit D201'. So if I go down this route, I get a Learner EB Licence but still need a fully qualified EB driver with me?????
I'm drving over 30 years without an accident.

Or will they give me a Profisional Licence instead and I put up P plates?

Whilst towing a trailer on your provisional EB license legally you’re suppose to have a qualified driver accompany you. Your insurance could be null and void if you were unfortunate enough to have an accident.

_Brian · 18-07-2019 3:36pm

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Confused by this. I don't have an EB Licence (learner form says 'BE', by the way.
I decided to get it sorted at last so got an application form in the local Garda Station. Form is for 'Learner Permit D201'. So if I go down this route, I get a Learner EB Licence but still need a fully qualified EB driver with me?????
I'm drving over 30 years without an accident.

Or will they give me a Profisional Licence instead and I put up P plates?

Depending on when you got your B licence you may need to do the theory test, I had to do mine, pain in the home and much of the questions are vague.

Then pop along to the licence office, i didn’t bother with an appt just called in, filed in form there and they processed the application straight away, BE learned permit came 10 days later and lasts two years.
My plan is to take few lessons and hire the school jeep for the test. €450 for 4 lessons and the use of the jeep for the test.

You need a BE licence holder with you if you are using your BE learner permit, and I think L plates too.

arctictree · 18-07-2019 9:54pm

I got my BE provisional 3 years ago. Had to renew it last year. Been stopped a number of times by guards and they were just happy I had the licence. Said nothing about L plates or being accompanied.

jmreire · 18-07-2019 10:09pm

i know u know wrote: »

Ya did my BE test last week and past first time

What was involved in it? I mean was it very difficult? lots of reversing etc?

BlackandGreen · 18-07-2019 10:16pm

Do you seriously need to apply for the theory test again?
I already hold a full B and C licence for several years. Is there a seperate theory test for a trailer or do they actually expect me to sit the car theory test again like some dope?

If I pass the EC test I presume the I get the BE with it?

Grueller · 18-07-2019 11:19pm

jmreire wrote: »

What was involved in it? I mean was it very difficult? lots of reversing etc?

Same as a standard driving test including the reverse around a corner with the trailer. Simple enough.

Base price · 18-07-2019 11:20pm

AFAIK if you want to add another category to your driving licence then you have to pass a theory test before you sit the actual driving test irrespective of your previous driving experience.

Grueller · 18-07-2019 11:21pm

Base price wrote: »

AFAIK if you want to add another category to your driving licence then you have to pass a theory test before you sit the actual driving test irrespective of your previous driving experience.

If you have ever passeda theory test for the car you don't need to do it again. I had to do it as I am a dinosaur that pre dated the theory test with my licence.

mayota · 18-07-2019 11:24pm

BlackandGreen wrote: »

Do you seriously need to apply for the theory test again?
I already hold a full B and C licence for several years. Is there a seperate theory test for a trailer or do they actually expect me to sit the car theory test again like some dope?

If I pass the EC test I presume the I get the BE with it?

If you done the C theory test it’ll cover you.

Base price · 18-07-2019 11:30pm

BlackandGreen wrote: »

Do you seriously need to apply for the theory test again?
I already hold a full B and C licence for several years. Is there a seperate theory test for a trailer or do they actually expect me to sit the car theory test again like some dope?

If I pass the EC test I presume the I get the BE with it?

I think you will need to pass the E+ category theory tests prior to doing a manual driving test in any category. I think if you pass the C+E driving test then you are automatically covered for towing B, C1 and C classed vehicles within the legal standards.

Sacrolyte · 18-07-2019 11:54pm

I don’t have the license yet but I can get my 80 yr old mother to pull the 14’ cattle box fully loaded no bother as she’s fully licensed

patsy_mccabe · 18-07-2019 11:56pm

Sacrolyte wrote: »

I don’t have the license yet but I can get my 80 yr old mother to pull the 14’ cattle box fully loaded no bother as she’s fully licensed

She can drive the local school bus aswell.:D

_Brian · 18-07-2019 11:59pm

BlackandGreen wrote: »

Do you seriously need to apply for the theory test again?
I already hold a full B and C licence for several years. Is there a seperate theory test for a trailer or do they actually expect me to sit the car theory test again like some dope?

If I pass the EC test I presume the I get the BE with it?

If you’ve previously done a theory test then no.
But if you never sat a theory test then yes you will have to do it.

Base price · 19-07-2019 12:21am

Sacrolyte wrote: »

I don’t have the license yet but I can get my 80 yr old mother to pull the 14’ cattle box fully loaded no bother as she’s fully licensed

Yep and at 80 years of age she is probably a better driver than most of the younger ***** that I meet daily on the roads

JeffKenna · 19-07-2019 11:37pm

Is the actual driving test for a BE licence similar to that of a normal test? I don't think I'd be able for that with a trailer (reverse parking into a space etc)... But maybe I'm just not a great driver!

JeffKenna · 19-07-2019 11:45pm

Apologies for the multiple posts, I cant seem to delete them.

_Brian · 20-07-2019 12:00am

Have a friend who did it last year and he said It’s the very same test on the same route as regular B test.

bb12 · 20-07-2019 12:39am

got my license 2 years ago. didn't have to do the theory test as i had already done one for car license in 2002. paid 35 to get the provisional license. then paid 250 for a training package deal which comprised of a 2 hour lesson plus another 2 hour pre-test lesson including hire of the jeep and trailer for the test. had to renew my regular drivers license for 55 2 months before the test and when passed the test had to shell out another 55 to get another new license with the trailer category attached. test cost 85. so total spent then was 425.

gozunda · 20-07-2019 4:06am

_Brian wrote: »

Have a friend who did it last year and he said It’s the very same test on the same route as regular B test.

Same test with a trailer and all that entails. But no three point turn.

Buford T. Justice XIX · 20-07-2019 8:12am

JeffKenna wrote: »

Apologies for the multiple posts, I cant seem to delete them.

You have a short time after you post to edit a post so pick edit and then the delete option. But we can delete them later when we come across them so don't worry about them.

yosemitesam1 · 20-07-2019 8:20am

JeffKenna wrote: »

Is the actual driving test for a BE licence similar to that of a normal test? I don't think I'd be able for that with a trailer (reverse parking into a space etc)... But maybe I'm just not a great driver!

Its very easy, start off in the lorry area, back around a corner, then just spin around and do a hill start at some stage. Just pull straight back into lorry area to finish

Box09 · 20-07-2019 8:41am

yosemitesam1 wrote:

Its very easy, start off in the lorry area, back around a corner, then just spin around and do a hill start at some stage. Just pull straight back into lorry area to finish

Its not bad but to me the reverse around the corner was difficult as i normally only open the door and turn around and for this you have to use the mirrors. The test needs practice if its a long time since you did one.

yosemitesam1 · 20-07-2019 8:45am

Box09 wrote: »

Its not bad but to me the reverse around the corner was difficult as i normally only open the door and turn around and for this you have to use the mirrors. The test needs practice if its a long time since you did one.

Ye I suppose the reversing depends on how you're used to doing it. The father here can't reverse using mirrors but it's all I'd use

JeffKenna · 20-07-2019 8:54am

Box09 wrote: »

yosemitesam1 wrote:

Its very easy, start off in the lorry area, back around a corner, then just spin around and do a hill start at some stage. Just pull straight back into lorry area to finish

Its not bad but to me the reverse around the corner was difficult as i normally only open the door and turn around and for this you have to use the mirrors. The test needs practice if its a long time since you did one.

Yeah to be honest I wouldn't be the best at backing, anytime I do back I'd always try and angle it in a straight line to make it easier so it's something I'll have to work on.

_Brian · 20-07-2019 9:08am

JeffKenna wrote: »

Yeah to be honest I wouldn't be the best at backing, anytime I do back I'd always try and angle it in a straight line to make it easier so it's something I'll have to work on.

Had a lad on picking up cattle here last week, tri axle behind a land cruiser, was a master at reversing it, I’d be good enough but this lad was a class act altogether.

Del2005 · 20-07-2019 9:20am

arctictree wrote: »

I got my BE provisional 3 years ago. Had to renew it last year. Been stopped a number of times by guards and they were just happy I had the licence. Said nothing about L plates or being accompanied.

Your lucky you keep meeting stupid Gardai, especially with Clancy's law, and even luckier that you haven't hit anyone as you have no insurance when driving outside the terms of your permit/licence, insurance companies have started to recoup the money that they pay to 3rd parties from the uninsured drivers.

Donald Trump · 20-07-2019 10:46am

Sacrolyte wrote: »

I don’t have the license yet but I can get my 80 yr old mother to pull the 14’ cattle box fully loaded no bother as she’s fully licensed

Jaysus. Fair play to her. Saves you needing to buy diesel or even to have the jeep in the first place. She must struggle pulling it up the hills though? Does she have a special harness made up or does she just grab a hold of the drawbar with her hands?

amacca · 20-07-2019 11:06am

bb12 wrote: »

got my license 2 years ago. didn't have to do the theory test as i had already done one for car license in 2002. paid 35 to get the provisional license. then paid 250 for a training package deal which comprised of a 2 hour lesson plus another 2 hour pre-test lesson including hire of the jeep and trailer for the test. had to renew my regular drivers license for 55 2 months before the test and when passed the test had to shell out another 55 to get another new license with the trailer category attached. test cost 85. so total spent then was 425.

That tells you all you need to know imo. Similar cost for myself when doing it.

ganmo · 20-07-2019 11:06am

JeffKenna wrote: »

Is the actual driving test for a BE licence similar to that of a normal test? I don't think I'd be able for that with a trailer (reverse parking into a space etc)... But maybe I'm just not a great driver!

The only thing you dont do with the trailer is a 3 point turn

Sacrolyte · 21-07-2019 9:29pm

Donald Trump wrote: »

Sacrolyte wrote: »

I don’t have the license yet but I can get my 80 yr old mother to pull the 14’ cattle box fully loaded no bother as she’s fully licensed

Jaysus. Fair play to her. Saves you needing to buy diesel or even to have the jeep in the first place. She must struggle pulling it up the hills though? Does she have a special harness made up or does she just grab a hold of the drawbar with her hands?

No she pulls it with her teeth

Mooooo · 21-07-2019 10:07pm

If you have a regular full license, and then do the eb test in an auto jeep does it make any odds?

EB License for towing

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