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RWC 2019 Ireland v Japan Match Thread: Group A - Sat 28th Sep 08:15 Shizuoka

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,167 ✭✭✭Fan of Netflix


    People will troll and whatever, but I will never understand an Irish person actively enjoying watching a team of Irish lads lose. That mindset is honestly baffling to me
    Irish lads? Sure half our team are foreign imports and the management isn't Irish either. This team is as Irish as the Sultan of Brunei.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,991 ✭✭✭Shane732


    What’s the possibility for topping the group?


  • Registered Users Posts: 798 ✭✭✭Rockbeast2


    Somewhere, George Hook is reciting Mrs Beeton's recipe for chicken soup.

    "First, catch your chicken."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,529 ✭✭✭irishgeo


    Here’s the excuses now. Let’s blame the ref for the absolute diabolical performance of Ireland.
    Ireland were crap. Accept it.

    Did you not read the first part of the post you knobhead.


  • Registered Users Posts: 582 ✭✭✭Hobosan


    Portsalon wrote: »
    Trump nonsense - "my country right or wrong".

    Fact is that anyone with an atom of romance in their soul is always delighted to see a huge underdog pull off a fully-deserved win.

    Underdog?

    From the posts I've read, Ireland are apparently the worst team in the world.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,279 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    No mention of the refereeing from anyone on RTÉ


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,373 ✭✭✭tonycascarino


    In fairness, one could have smelt this defeat coming. Don't know why people are shocked. If one followed rugby they would know that Japan were always a decent side, were capable of doing this, plus they had home advantage. Ireland were always overrated by fans and media. Haven't a prayer of beating NZ in the quarters...if we get there....not that we ever had anyway.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 352 ✭✭lord quackinton


    Before the World Cup started No matter where we finished in group we were underdogs to win our quarter final
    That is the truth and todays and last weeks results have not changed that.
    And no matter what happens from here to the quarter finals we will still be underdogs.
    Ireland for me are better off avoiding South Africa. Their power game would break us


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Yes, a poll on boards is the problem. **** take

    It speaks of a mentality which it is seems was among the squad. It's the classic complacency defeat


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 52 ✭✭Hoppy Jack


    It was pathetic. So embarrassing. I hope the lads hang their heads in shame. Disgusting performance. Gutless.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    Portsalon wrote: »
    Trump nonsense - "my country right or wrong".

    Fact is that anyone with an atom of romance in their soul is always delighted to see a huge underdog pull off a fully-deserved win.

    This. And more so when the supoosed Giant are so arrogant. Real sense of English mindset from this camp and some supporters.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,279 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    In fairness, one could smell this defeat coming. Don't know why people are shocked. Japan were always a decent side plus had home advantage. Ireland were always overrated by fans and media. Haven't a prayer of beating NZ in the quarters...if we get there....not that we ever had anyway.

    That’s nonsense nobody with any brains expected Japan to beat us. You must have made a packet on paddy power though good man


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,066 ✭✭✭Christy42


    Lads show a little class. We were outplayed and the better side won. Yes some questionable decisions but that performance is a disgrace.

    The post you quoted mentions that we were bad...

    Honestly they were big decisions. I think bug questions have to be asked. A large host of games have come with the caveat that the ref was dire in this world cup alone. The refs have been out of their depth since the start and I think for a long time before the WC. I really think if this is the best refs can do they need more help judging a game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,906 ✭✭✭✭PhlegmyMoses


    Portsalon wrote: »
    Trump nonsense - "my country right or wrong".

    Fact is that anyone with an atom of romance in their soul is always delighted to see a huge underdog pull off a fully-deserved win.

    Enjoying an underdog winning is fine, enjoying your own country losing is weird. And we can sit here and do some.....ah **** you are a troll. Ignore what I posted, I agree with you bud :thumbsup:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,322 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Irish lads? Sure half our team are foreign imports and the management isn't Irish either. This team is as Irish as the Sultan of Brunei.
    Complete and utter BS.
    How many foreign imports as you put it were on pitch?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,530 ✭✭✭Car99


    How many people posting in the Rugby forum today that never posted here before?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,253 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    Hurrache wrote: »
    We were never going to get a try from there, but were likely to lose the losing bonus point.

    He would have kicked it behind him then, he was clearly (imo) going for territory.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,895 ✭✭✭Poor_old_gill


    Stander did exactly that for most of the match - he just stood there


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,415 ✭✭✭jammiedodgers


    Have to laugh at all the people saying they're not surprised by this result. Hope ye all put your money where you're mouth is. Ye simpletons.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,225 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Car99 wrote: »
    How many people posting in the Rugby forum today that never posted here before?

    Same thing happens whenever Ireland lose.

    Personally, I think they're all Ewan McKenna multis.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,089 ✭✭✭Happy4all


    Hindsight is great, but I had expected Ireland to rotate the starting line up more and have fresh legs from the turnaround of the Scotland game.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 702 ✭✭✭Portsalon


    First time I've seen you around here

    Perhaps a visit to Specsavers might assist?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭Blanco100


    This is when Rugby teams are to be judged. not in Feb/March or in friendly games. Its a level playing field.

    Beating the All blacks in a friendly game at the end of their season is nothing to be shouting about.

    The reason Ireland never make a semi final is because we are not a top 4 side when all is equal.

    If every team in World international rugby was firing at top of their game we would still not be top 4 side. Thats a fact.

    And its really only a 6-8 team field.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,373 ✭✭✭tonycascarino


    MadYaker wrote: »
    That’s nonsense nobody with any brains expected Japan to beat us. You must have made a packet on paddy power though good man

    I expected Japan to beat us or at least to have given us a right rattle. They have improved immensely over the years. People who don't follow rugby expected Japan to be cannon fodder.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,906 ✭✭✭✭PhlegmyMoses


    It speaks of a mentality which it is seems was among the squad. It's the classic complacency defeat

    Another awful take. Schmidt played his full strength side barring Sexton. Arrogant or what?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,279 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    Hoppy Jack wrote: »
    It was pathetic. So embarrassing. I hope the lads hang their heads in shame. Disgusting performance. Gutless.

    That’s way over the top. Are you going to provide any examples of gutless performance from specific players or do you just enjoy getting personal?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,500 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    Get ****ed

    Likewise :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,690 ✭✭✭Mokuba


    The amount of "I told you so" ****e in relation to Ireland being bad and delight at Ireland playing ****e is honestly horrible to read through

    Probably relates to fans and media constantly guffawing over an Irish team that, every time without fail, proves itself to be not half as good as made out on the biggest stage.

    The football team is constantly ridiculed while the rugby team can mostly do no wrong.

    People were falling over themselves telling everyone:
    • How they had learned from the Six Nations
    • How the training camp meant they were tired for the England game
    • But the victories against Wales proved we were back despite them not being bothered and using them as an experiment.
    We beat Scotland while South Africa showed one or two weaknesses against the best team in the world and people were already mapping out the route to the final. It's tiresome and the whole country - fans/media/players got yet another wake up call today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,599 ✭✭✭ScrubsfanChris


    Shane732 wrote: »
    What’s the possibility for topping the group?
    Japan to lose or draw at least once and Ireland to pick up two 5 pointers could leave both team on 16 points, Ireland would then need a bigger points difference.


  • Registered Users Posts: 798 ✭✭✭Rockbeast2


    This is turning into a Liverpool V Man Utd thread.

    The better team won.

    We'll get over it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,225 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Happy4all wrote: »
    Hindsight is great, but I had expected Ireland to rotate the starting line up more and have fresh legs from the turnaround of the Scotland game.

    Maybe. But these guys are professional athletes that have come off the back of a month's long training camp. They should be in the best shape of their careers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 280 ✭✭Forty Seven


    Great for Scotland to get a good look at their system. Time to step up for the real danger in this group. Seems south Africa was not a fluke. Welcome to the new normal. Asian rugby.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,233 ✭✭✭ClanofLams


    Irish lads? Sure half our team are foreign imports and the management isn't Irish either. This team is as Irish as the Sultan of Brunei.

    Who’s that half now? You should be worried about Arsenal in the premier league - having grown up in Ireland presumably you must have a deep connection to the club that spends millions every week paying a squad assorted from around the world. No interest in supporting Leyton Orient no?


  • Registered Users Posts: 582 ✭✭✭Hobosan


    This. And more so when the supoosed Giant are so arrogant. Real sense of English mindset from this camp and some supporters.

    Players and coaches have been nothing but complimentary of the Japan team.

    You're the one downplaying the Japanese victory by insinuating that Ireland weren't trying.

    Completely transparent what you're at.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,998 ✭✭✭leakyboots


    NeonWolf wrote: »
    High tackle by Rob Kearney in last pass before Japan try . He caught him on the jaw

    Bit of a poor read from RK on that try. He played well apart from that I thought.

    Bit of a curates egg of a performance... the likes of Earls, Kearney, Ringrose, Farrell, Murray, the three backrowers, Ryan.... all played pretty well. I don't think you'd criticise any of them too much. Yet we still lost, deservedly. Was POM taken off injured? Thought he was arguably our best player at the time.

    This was lost in the coach's box for me. Our backplay is so stagnant. I see this with Munster regularly, when we can't outmuscle a team we don't have the backplay to go around them.

    Japan matched us up front and then just went around us, their backplay is such a pleasure to watch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,001 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    Rte panel crazy calm.

    Bring back Hook.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,386 ✭✭✭✭DDC1990


    RTÉ talking consistency from Gardner. I absolutely disagree.

    Japan got warnings. We got penalised.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 702 ✭✭✭Portsalon


    Hobosan wrote: »
    Underdog?

    From the posts I've read, Ireland are apparently the worst team in the world.

    Can you link me to any post that makes that claim? No need to work too hard, just one will suffice.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    We need to stop playing this bastardized version of Rugby League and start playing a quicker passing game. Watching us tonight was like watching Wigan, Hull or any other League team play.

    Unfortunately that is not going to happen with Farrell as Head Coach who is steeped in that tradition.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,167 ✭✭✭Fan of Netflix


    Our national team, yeah the one filled with foreign imports that is too ashamed to play our national anthem. Shame on people for not backing the team after humiliation in front of the world.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 14,535 Mod ✭✭✭✭johnnyskeleton


    Ireland played an unusual first 20 minutes which worked out well for them. Those little chips, offloads and playing up the tramlines rather than the standard centre field threw Japan initially.

    After that, Japans better discipline, home advantage and the heat were all used to grind Ireland down in what can only be called an extremely exciting game of rugby.

    In hindsight there are a few things that couldve been done differently. I felt Best was maybe tired after 80 mjns against Scotland, and no disrespect to Chris Farrell but hes no Bundi Aki and this was shown several times when James Ryan or Jacob Stockdale made some pace but were unsupported.

    Cant say anything bad about the Irish pack overall, just that they were beaten by the more focussed Japanese pack. The old adage that the forwards determine who wins and the backs by how much is probably true for today. Japans tackling and rucking was excellent and Ireland made too many mistakes.

    Good but dissappointing match. World cup is far frkm over for Ireland. Some commentators said it would be better for Ireland to face NZ rather than SA, and maybe they will get their wish! Lets hope Japan beat Scotland and there are no further upsets in Pool A


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,525 ✭✭✭kona


    Another awful take. Schmidt played his full strength side barring Sexton. Arrogant or what?

    Yea barring sexton. A world player of the year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,322 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Irish lads? Sure half our team are foreign imports and the management isn't Irish either. This team is as Irish as the Sultan of Brunei.
    As someone else has already pointed out

    Ireland
    They had one player today who qualified by residency.

    How many Irish born players are in the Ireland soccer team?....


  • Registered Users Posts: 653 ✭✭✭Gonad


    Mokuba wrote: »
    Probably relates to fans and media constantly guffawing over an Irish team that, every time without fail, proves itself to be not half as good as made out on the biggest stage.

    The football team is constantly ridiculed while the rugby team can mostly do no wrong.

    People were falling over themselves telling everyone:
    • How they had learned from the Six Nations
    • How the training camp meant they were tired for the England game
    • But the victories against Wales proved we were back despite them not being bothered and using them as an experiment.
    We beat Scotland while South Africa showed one or two weaknesses against the best team in the world and people were already mapping out the route to the final. It's tiresome and the whole country - fans/media/players got yet another wake up call today.
    Ok Ewan Mackenna ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,019 ✭✭✭✭adox


    What surprised me most was how poor we were at the breakdown and set pieces.

    We were getting outmuscled a lot of the time at the breakdown which shouldn’t be happening against this opposition.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,148 ✭✭✭Salary Negotiator


    Japan to lose or draw at least once and Ireland to pick up two 5 pointers could leave both team on 16 points, Ireland would then need a bigger points difference.

    Isn’t it head to head rather than points difference?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,895 ✭✭✭Poor_old_gill


    DDC1990 wrote: »
    RTÉ talking consistency from Gardner. I absolutely disagree.

    Japan got warnings. We got penalised.

    Too cowardly to make a call - dont wanna be seen as controversial.
    McBennett will have them axed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,599 ✭✭✭ScrubsfanChris


    Blanco100 wrote: »
    All blacks in a friendly game
    Is there some sort of keyboard shortcut for this line? Everyone seems to have this completely original opinion :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,506 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    I am hearing all about how good's defence is, and the strength of their running game in the post-match, but all you heard in the build-up was essentially how much Ireland should win by.

    Its that myopic, arrogant attitude that breeds indifference to the game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,322 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Our national team, yeah the one filled with foreign imports that is too ashamed to play our national anthem. Shame on people for not backing the team after humiliation in front of the world.
    How many foreign imports?
    You are talking out your hole!


    Ireland...had one player today who qualified by residency....


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