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Shadow of Mordor (Shadow of War)

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    #92
    J. Marston
    Registered Users Posts: 23,114 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    Looks like they put far more effort into animating her face compared to Talion's.


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    #93
    bigphil2
    Registered Users Posts: 876 ✭✭✭bigphil2


    ive pre-ordered this.i know! its a fairly safe bet though..


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    #94
    J. Marston
    Registered Users Posts: 23,114 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    Who thought this was a good idea?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3R8AS-usomo


    Awful.


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    #95
    Shougeki
    Registered Users Posts: 933 ✭✭✭Shougeki


    Anyone else just hate that ghost elf prick?

    Would be nice if we could sacrifice/kill/make him work as a barista in part 2....

    :P


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    #96
    CatInABox
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,249 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatInABox


    Have to admit, the news that microtransactions are to feature in this game is pretty disappointing. Will wait until it's on a really steep discount now.


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    #97
    Mr Crispy
    Registered Users Posts: 7,667 ✭✭✭Mr Crispy


    Not a fan of this generally, but it doesn't bother me in a SP game. Especially when none of the game is exclusively behind a microtransaction.
    Please note: No content in the game is gated by Gold. All content can be acquired naturally through normal gameplay.


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    #98
    CatInABox
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,249 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatInABox


    Darch Nemesis wrote: »
    Not a fan of this generally, but it doesn't bother me in a SP game. Especially when none of the game is exclusively behind a microtransaction.

    Depends on how it's dealt with, I think. Using them as a "shortcut", totally fine in my opinion, using them to pad out the game so that the optimal way to play is by purchasing items, not so cool.


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    #99
    J. Marston
    Registered Users Posts: 23,114 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    Drop in the ocean but they've lost a buyer in me. Won't even touch it when it's on sale.

    MP games are polluted with loot chests, gambling in disguise. I won't support it in a SP game. Plus I'm guessing the game will be a grind-fest to nudge people towards The Market.


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    #100
    2Mad2BeMad
    Registered Users Posts: 2,790 ✭✭✭2Mad2BeMad


    J. Marston wrote: »
    Drop in the ocean but they've lost a buyer in me. Won't even touch it when it's on sale.

    MP games are polluted with loot chests, gambling in disguise. I won't support it in a SP game. Plus I'm guessing the game will be a grind-fest to nudge people towards The Market.

    as long as idiots keep blowing their money on them loot chests/crates they will always be in games, nothing but greed from the companies.
    Its a hugh money earner, hell they could even afford to sell the game at half price (maybe not this game) and make a **** ton of money from crates alone.

    Did this all begin with ea and fifa packs or something else haha


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    #101
    Kiith
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,072 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    I'd have no faith in WB not to absolutely screw people over with this. I expect any of the good upgrades are next to impossible to get ingame (i.e. a hug amount of grinding), and are practically exclusive to loot crates.

    I think i'll wait and pick it up cheap in a few months.


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    #102
    Potential-Monke
    Registered Users Posts: 13,828 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Disappointing to hear, but i'll wait until a few days after release and see how it affects the SP first. That'll be my deciding factor on whether to pick up the game or not.


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    #103
    Sonics2k
    Registered Users Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    Yeah, I've been extremely hyped over this, but this Shelob nonsense and now the lootboxes stuff has really turned me off.

    I wasn't going to pre-order it anyway, but I'll definitely wait until the Steam Winter Sale now.


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    #104
    Generic Dreadhead
    Registered Users Posts: 10,870 ✭✭✭✭Generic Dreadhead


    But... but I just wanted to like this. I really liked the last game...

    Just do more of the same x1.5 and we'd have been totally cool

    Sexy Shelob?
    Awkward, cringey voice acting?
    Microtransations?

    Why WB? Why!?!?!

    Thankfully I'll have Destiny 2 and X-Com 2 DLC to keep me busy, so I can just wait for a price drop

    *sighs*


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    #105
    Penn
    Registered Users Posts: 33,270 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    The Sexy Shelob thing is really weird. Only heard about it yesterday through The Jimquisition. I'd much rather have conversations with an evil giant spider than generic dark-haired beautiful woman. It's a game set in LOTR, let it be LOTR.

    The Lootboxes & different types of currency to buy different lootboxes etc, that just seems to be par for the course now. It'll be the next money-making fad until people stop spending money on them and they have to come up with a new form of making additional money.


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    #106
    gimli2112
    Registered Users Posts: 13,407 ✭✭✭✭gimli2112


    Must be a no brainer for the developer though. I'm generally not pushed on micro-transactions. I do tend to buy the DLCs and with the exception of Destiny and Modern Warfare 2(possibly Battlefield 4) have never felt they were value for money. Think I bought a dance in Destiny. Playing Warframe at present and while tempting haven't purchased anything yet.


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    #107
    Mickeroo
    Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,155 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Surely lootboxes won't have much to do with the campaign if anything at all? Wouldn't be going near multiplayer in this even without micro transactions.


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    #108
    [Deleted User]
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    Adding unnecessary grinding to force people to purchase micro-transactions. What's worse is this is a single player game.
    Industry is ****ed by certain publishers. Frustrating but clowns will purchase this crap so always a market for it.
    I won't be touching this until it's in some sale or bargain bin.


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    #109
    Penn
    Registered Users Posts: 33,270 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    Surely lootboxes won't have much to do with the campaign if anything at all?

    They will. All the rarest/best gear will be behind lootboxes or a lot of grinding.

    http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-08-07-middle-earth-shadow-of-war-has-loot-boxes
    The single-player action adventure has an in-game store, called the Market, that sells orcs and other items for use in the game's Nemesis System.

    In a post on the Warner Bros. website, Monolith community manager Jared said you can also buy loot chests, war chests, XP boosts and bundles.

    The loot chests contain gear (weapons and armour) of varying rarity. They can also contain XP boosts which, as you'd expect, help level up playable character Talion faster.

    To buy these items, you can spend Mirian or Gold. Mirian is an in-game currency you get from defeating treasure orcs, destroying gear, destroying orc followers for gear (which can then be destroyed for Mirian), or from finding Mirian stashes throughout the game.

    Gold, on the other hand, is an in-game currency you can use to get higher level loot chests, war chests, boosts and bundles. You get gold by buying it with real money, but it's awarded in small amounts at specific milestones and for participating in community challenges.


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    #110
    Mickeroo
    Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,155 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Ah, well **** that so.


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    #111
    Penn
    Registered Users Posts: 33,270 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Orcs in f*cking loot boxes and buying Orcs from the market... That's the stupidest bit of all for me.


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    #112
    Potential-Monke
    Registered Users Posts: 13,828 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Yeah, definitely waiting to see how much they've ****ed the game with these changes...


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    #113
    nerd69
    Registered Users Posts: 9,668 ✭✭✭nerd69


    I don't have a stable internet connection in the hous at the mo so "always online" means I just can't play right? ****ing balls


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    #114
    degrassinoel
    Registered Users Posts: 10,733 ✭✭✭✭degrassinoel


    Penn wrote: »
    Orcs in f*cking loot boxes and buying Orcs from the market... That's the stupidest bit of all for me.

    Why the fcuk are they using a F2P gimmick like that for a fullprice AAA game?
    Dunno if i'll be arsed with that at all now


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    #115
    [Deleted User]
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    They saw Deus Ex do it and hitched their wagon. Playing my back log at the minute and am on Assassin's Creed Rogue even that has it for unlocking maps for collectibles. Which can be revealed in game free should you climb each vantage point :rolleyes:

    People buy this **** FACT but sometimes people need to be protected from themselves !!!!!!!


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    #116
    Icyseanfitz
    Registered Users Posts: 7,409 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    its a pity really, loved the reboot of deus ex but never played its sequel due to all of this crap, probably go the same route with this


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    #117
    CatInABox
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,249 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatInABox


    Deleted User wrote: »
    They saw Deus Ex do it and hitched their wagon. Playing my back log at the minute and am on Assassin's Creed Rogue even that has it for unlocking maps for collectibles. Which can be revealed in game free should you climb each vantage point :rolleyes:

    People buy this **** FACT but sometimes people need to be protected from themselves !!!!!!!

    I don't actually mind this kind of stuff, if people want to shortcut through the game, then go right ahead, that doesn't hurt gameplay at all. No body needs to purchase that stuff to complete the game in a standard time frame.

    It's when they lock content into lootboxes, and then make that content only accessible otherwise through hours and hours of grinding that makes it evil. They're designing the game to force you into buying loot boxes.


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    #118
    [Deleted User]
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    CatInABox wrote: »
    I don't actually mind this kind of stuff, if people want to shortcut through the game, then go right ahead, that doesn't hurt gameplay at all. No body needs to purchase that stuff to complete the game in a standard time frame.

    It's when they lock content into lootboxes, and then make that content only accessible otherwise through hours and hours of grinding that makes it evil. They're designing the game to force you into buying loot boxes.

    That's exactly what they are doing.

    Devs have purposely padded the game to entice people to consider purchasing this crap. And people will cave and buy it.
    Publishers see this and think it's ok.

    Thus, then expect it to see it in more single player games.

    It's a load of bolox whatever way you want to put it.


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    #119
    gimli2112
    Registered Users Posts: 13,407 ✭✭✭✭gimli2112


    CatInABox wrote: »
    I don't actually mind this kind of stuff, if people want to shortcut through the game, then go right ahead, that doesn't hurt gameplay at all. No body needs to purchase that stuff to complete the game in a standard time frame.

    It's when they lock content into lootboxes, and then make that content only accessible otherwise through hours and hours of grinding that makes it evil. They're designing the game to force you into buying loot boxes.


    or forcing us not to buy the game itself.......
    There's a small number of games I'd probably buy but decisions by developers have completely turned me against them. I stopped buying the COD franchise which was probably my go to online game. The Tomb Raider game that went exclusive to X-box is another one I would have definitely purchased but for that exclusitivity deal.
    It's hurt me more than the game developers but I'm stubborn like that.


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    #120
    Penn
    Registered Users Posts: 33,270 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    The trouble with being able to buy Orcs from a market is that it removes (or at the very least greatly diminishes) what was so great about the first game with the Nemesis system; the RNG Orcs. You had to rely solely on finding decent orcs there who either levelled up by beating you/other orcs or who you helped promote and controlled them. Their strengths and weakness were RNG'ed and you had to deal with that.

    Now you can just buy what type of orc you want. Or buy items for them which will help counter their weaknesses etc. The effect of the RNG system and therefore the Nemesis system is greatly reduced. Why bother trying to promote a lowly Orc through the ranks and turn him into a strong follower, making adjustments to suit his strengths & weaknesses, if you can just buy one that suits you?


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    #121
    Doctor Nick
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,506 ✭✭✭Doctor Nick


    Yet another person here who won't be buying this. Don't understand people who do to be honest. You've paid enough money for the game, should not need to invest further to advance, or gain an unfair advantage over others. Shame, as I had been looking forward to it.


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