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Western Rail Corridor / Rail Trail Discussion

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  • #722
    westtip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,282 ✭✭✭westtip


    Del.Monte wrote: »
    At least Fr.McGreil has a genuine interest in something unlike the detached economist Colm McCarthy who only interest, apart from hearing his own voice/or and reading his own drivel, is getting paid for same.

    he does too. A genuine interest in stopping tourism.


  • #723
    Del.Monte
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Del.Monte


    westtip wrote: »
    he does too. A genuine interest in stopping tourism.

    In fairness, Fr.McGreil has been campaigning for the reopening of the Claremorris/Collooney line for even longer than you've been doing the reverse. :D

    ****



  • #724
    serfboard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,720 ✭✭✭serfboard


    Del.Monte wrote: »
    At least Fr.McGreil has a genuine interest in something
    Yes indeed. A genuine interest in getting the government to spend hundreds of millions of euro indulging his genuine interest in trains.


  • #725
    what_traffic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,002 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    Del.Monte wrote: »
    At least Fr.McGreil has a genuine interest in something unlike the detached economist Colm McCarthy who only interest, apart from hearing his own voice/or and reading his own drivel, is getting paid for same.
    Whats the line ....."play the ball not the man"?


  • #726
    westtip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,282 ✭✭✭westtip


    Del.Monte wrote: »
    In fairness, Fr.McGreil has been campaigning for the reopening of the Claremorris/Collooney line for even longer than you've been doing the reverse. :D

    Your point being?


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  • #727
    Del.Monte
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Del.Monte


    westtip wrote: »
    Your point being?

    Is there any point to anything in this discussion?

    ****



  • #728
    Utter Consternation
    Registered Users Posts: 928 ✭✭✭Utter Consternation


    Del.Monte wrote: »
    Is there any point to anything in this discussion?

    Sounds like you're having an existentialist crisis there, Monte.


  • #729
    westtip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,282 ✭✭✭westtip


    Del.Monte wrote: »
    Is there any point to anything in this discussion?

    My point is this is not a matter of who has been campaigning longest who wins the argument, it is he or she who has the best argument and reasoning. In Sligo reason has won out, in galway it is close to winning out, in Mayo the county council will eventually be bought in kicking and screaming with reasoned argument. In claremorris there is no hope.


  • #730
    serfboard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,720 ✭✭✭serfboard


    westtip wrote: »
    In Sligo reason has won out, in galway it is close to winning out, in Mayo the county council will eventually be bought in kicking and screaming with reasoned argument. In claremorris there is no hope.
    Once Bellahy->Collooney and Milltown->Athenry get Greenwayed (which they will) Mayo can tilt at windmills for as long as they like, for there will be nowhere for a train to go and no point in them campaigning.


  • #731
    Grandeeod
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,209 ✭✭✭✭Grandeeod


    Del.Monte wrote: »
    Is there any point to anything in this discussion?

    There is a point. We need to organize a Western Rail Corridor/Boards Beers so we can all skull pints and talk about it face to face. :D Sean's pub in Castlrea may be closed, but we can hire it out for the face off of the century inside a loco. I'm sure he'll get the kegs in for us.:D I think it would be great craic altogether!


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  • #732
    Corca Baiscinn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 643 ✭✭✭Corca Baiscinn


    serfboard wrote: »
    Once Bellahy->Collooney and Milltown->Athenry get Greenwayed (which they will) Mayo can tilt at windmills for as long as they like, for there will be nowhere for a train to go and no point in them campaigning.

    And will we have windmill-powered zipwires to get greenway users and their bikes through the County Mayo from Bellaghy to the Galway border?:D


  • #733
    Muckyboots
    Closed Accounts Posts: 652 ✭✭✭Muckyboots


    Corca Baiscinn wrote: »
    And will we have windmill-powered zipwires to get greenway users and their bikes through the County Mayo from Bellaghy to the Galway border?:D

    Bellaghy to Ballindine Sleepers and Dust- a rusty rails tourist attraction for the tens of fanatics.


  • #734
    westtip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,282 ✭✭✭westtip


    Muckyboots wrote: »
    Bellaghy to Ballindine Sleepers and Dust- a rusty rails tourist attraction for the tens of fanatics.

    With planning permission for nothing.:D


  • #735
    Muckyboots
    Closed Accounts Posts: 652 ✭✭✭Muckyboots


    westtip wrote: »
    With planning permission for nothing.:D

    In truth, if one needed planning permission to "do nothing" with land and assets- we wouldn't be here talking muck every second day.


  • #736
    JCX BXC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,226 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    A lift to platform 2 would do no harm in Ennis, today we've had to leave the station, driver had to get out, walk to the other end of the train, get back in and then go back to the station to get the passenger who required assistance.


  • #737
    Isambard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,795 ✭✭✭Isambard


    I don't know how much lifts (x2) cost, but it would be a lot.


  • #738
    [Deleted User]
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    Why not just have a level pedestrian crossing to allow passengers to cross the line, it's not as if there will be any express trains come along.


  • #739
    Sam Russell
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 19,862 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Why not just have a level pedestrian crossing to allow passengers to cross the line, it's not as if there will be any express trains come along.

    I think that the crossing would have to have gates, or the people crossing would have to wear hi-vis jackets. :)


  • #740
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Sam Russell wrote: »
    I think that the crossing would have to have gates, or the people crossing would have to wear hi-vis jackets. :)
    I would imagine that two sets of remotely lockable gates would be far cheaper than 2 lifts.
    You could of course install a coat rail for the hi-vis jackets each side for the passengers to pick up and drop off the other side. ;)


  • #741
    Sam Russell
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 19,862 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I would imagine that two sets of remotely lockable gates would be far cheaper than 2 lifts.
    You could of course install a coat rail for the hi-vis jackets each side for the passengers to pick up and drop off the other side. ;)

    Plus a rack of umbrellas because it rains a lot in the wesht.

    :)


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  • #742
    westtip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,282 ✭✭✭westtip


    Sam Russell wrote: »
    Plus a rack of umbrellas because it rains a lot in the wesht.

    :)

    And inflatable dingys for the flooded section of track


  • #743
    Isambard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,795 ✭✭✭Isambard


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Why not just have a level pedestrian crossing to allow passengers to cross the line, it's not as if there will be any express trains come along.

    will you stop! you and your common sense!


  • #744
    [Deleted User]
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Why not just have a level pedestrian crossing to allow passengers to cross the line, it's not as if there will be any express trains come along.

    Can wheelchairs cross?


  • #745
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Can wheelchairs cross?
    Yes, that's how it used to be done in the past, if you couldn't go over the bridge, you walked over the level crossing.
    Look at any old photos of railway stations, you'll see the pedestrian crossing at the end of the platform.
    Like this one for example.
    ortonwrvillestn1960.jpg


  • #746
    westtip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,282 ✭✭✭westtip


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Yes, that's how it used to be done in the past, if you couldn't go over the bridge, you walked over the level crossing.
    Look at any old photos of railway stations, you'll see the pedestrian crossing at the end of the platform.
    Like this one for example.
    ortonwrvillestn1960.jpg

    You forgot about the nanny state, no one could possibly do this now, there would be too many cases of I got hit by a train I didn't know was coming and I am suffering from severe mortality.


  • #747
    Muckyboots
    Closed Accounts Posts: 652 ✭✭✭Muckyboots


    westtip wrote: »
    You forgot about the nanny state, no one could possibly do this now, there would be too many cases of I got hit by a train I didn't know was coming and I am suffering from severe mortality.

    Someone forgot all that pedestrian safety stuff when they approved the Luas layout in Dublin. People walking and cycling back and over in front of those poor drivers every day of the week. But sure those hipsters in de Capital have different rules for everything.


  • #748
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Yes, that's how it used to be done in the past, if you couldn't go over the bridge, you walked over the level crossing.
    Look at any old photos of railway stations, you'll see the pedestrian crossing at the end of the platform.
    Like this one for example.
    ortonwrvillestn1960.jpg

    I guessed that's what you meant. Yeah, those are brutal for wheelchairs, with front wheels getting stuck in the gaps.


  • #749
    Del.Monte
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Del.Monte


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I guessed that's what you meant. Yeah, those are brutal for wheelchairs, with front wheels getting stuck in the gaps.

    AFAIK that type of crossing was known as a 'barrow crossing' from a time when railways provided a useful purpose - passengers weren't meant to use them.

    ****



  • #750
    Utter Consternation
    Registered Users Posts: 928 ✭✭✭Utter Consternation


    Del.Monte wrote: »
    AFAIK that type of crossing was known as a 'barrow crossing' from a time when railways provided a useful purpose - passengers weren't meant to use them.

    Yeah, they're known as barrow crossings. Lethal at the best of times, even more so if trains were crossing at the station.


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  • #751
    Isambard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,795 ✭✭✭Isambard


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I guessed that's what you meant. Yeah, those are brutal for wheelchairs, with front wheels getting stuck in the gaps.

    how could the wheels get stuck if they were crossing the line at right angles?


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