Bridge mode on new Vodafone Gigabit modem (SIRO)

LoGiE wrote: »

No bother, he must have configured port forwarding between both routers and disabled Wifi and DHCP on the Vodafone Router. Having two routers and Double NAT is not an ideal situation but is workable in some situations.

Funnily enough, once DHCP, Wi-Fi, and everything else is disabled (not the Firewall and stealth settings for security, probably Gameboy level in these but better than nothing), as well as a static IP set in DMZ, then NAT from the Gigabox is also disabled even in router mode from the testing done for the static IP set, as I wouldn't have bothered if it doubled and would have left it as the only box

Then no port forwarding (do I enjoy more work like), tel port 1 to the phone (working), external router via LAN port 1 to its WAN port and the external routers WAN connection set to that static IP in the DMZ (found for the ASUS I had to manually set DNS servers as well, it wouldn't automagically work, the ASUS Firewall, NAT, DHCP and rest is fine), then boom it works! :cool:

And that's about all I can remember doing in addition Vs. The setup guide from earlier in this thread, the hardest thing to work out when I was at this a few weeks ago was why not just let the tel ports/passthrough for any of the modes, seems counter intuitive for customers :rolleyes:

@S.E.A.L.s - help is much much appreciated - am gonna have a go at this

That will just double NAT. You're half doing an AP setup then messing it up. Use the 86U as an AP.

dmm1000 wrote: »

Hi S.E.A.L.s

see my screens above if i could get a WAN connection on the ASUS it'd be progress somethings not quite there ??
thanks

Secure UPnP = Yes (because why not)

And your WAN IP of the ASUS on the connection with the Gigabox should be different from the ASUS's LAN gateway IP for your local devices.

So, the WAN IP 192.168.1.2 of the ASUS should be set in the DMZ setting page of the Gigabox, please confirm?

Also, update your ASUS's LAN IP to say 192.168.2.1 or higher than the WAN IP and when saving you'll get a pop up saying the local DHCP range needs to be updated as well, confirm that and then let us know what happens next...

Hi S.E.A.L.s

here are the changes I am now getting a green square "connected?" WAN symbol on the rtac86u which when i hover over it - message saying "Ethernet WAN Connected" definitely DMZ'd the 192.168.1.2 ip address in the gigabox and disabled WIFI / DHCP /
but internet isn't getting going to lan devices on the Asus RTAC86U
Could you please check these for correctness

Gigabox


WAN Settings


LAN and DHCP




thank you

Hi S.E.A.L.s
Ignore those last 2 posts - your settings are 100% - i had missed something but just couldn't figure it out - it suddenly dawned on me that having used the rtac86u to Host at one stage - under LAN --> IPTV Tab i had set the Internet VID to 10 as you should if using the RTAC86U (or other capable routers) to host the broadband - so it must have been the fact that the Asus gets its internet now from the gigabox and not thru the ONT directly that having the Internet VID caused an issue - so once i cleared that field in the router settings - BINGO it works - phone is also working (off the gigabox) - am just gonna go thru NAT stuff VPN make sure that all works ok and get back to the thread here and update - thanks again

Thanks S.E.A.L.s ... and everyone else who helped on this thread - it's all working fine - VPN / NAT (And the Landline Phone) ..... for anyone out there who's not happy with the Gigabox for whatever reason , and likes to use another router (in my case Asus RTAC86U running Merlin 184.16) for decent VPN , NAT( online gaming) and still be able to use the Landline (on the Gigabox) - then the instructions outlined in the comments in this thread will allow you to do that - (by switching off most of the functionality in the Gigabox , and let the RTAC86U take over) - with the help of the very knowledgeable folk here it's working

freddy99 wrote: »

I know that its a little off topic, but does anyone know if its possible to access the "phone Settings" to access DTMF and Codec features?
The Expert screen suggests that it should be possible, but I can't find access. Im trying to integrate a Cisco ATA and need to discover the Gigabox preset parameters.
Thank you.

From the UI via a Web browser, no we didn't see any access to those types of presets unfortunately.

However, it maybe possible to SSH into the Gigabox via PuTTY and gain access to the presets.

I've not tried personally to date and would probably need advice from VF Technical Support.

I know, I know and rather be waterboarded as well

Thanks to dmm1000 and S.E.A.L.s for their discussion and S.E.A.Ls instructions on how to get an AC86U working with the Vodafone Gigabox. I have just successfully implemented this and switched from Virgin Media to Vodafone 500Mb including Vodafone TV.

I really wanted the TV to work so I was unsure how successful this would be as the installer stated that the TV box needed to be wired to a LAN output of the Gigabox. I'm glad to report that this isn't correct and I have the TV connected via a switch to the ASUS router and it successfully gets an IP address and is working perfectly.

I have also got my Plex Server and OpenVPN working with this configuration. Obviously the ASUS DDNS doesn't work as it sees the WAN IP as 192.186.1.2. I used the DDNS feature of the Gigabox and signed up with a free DDNS service supported by this. The ovpn file produced by the ASUS OpenVPN tab just has to be edited in notepad to change the server address from 192.168.1.2 to whatever your DDNS address is.

With Plex it sees the Plex Server as behind a double NAT and so restricts you to streaming via their Plex Relay. This could be due to the CGNAT used by Vodafone or the fact the server is behind two routers (ASUS and Gigabox) or both. In the Network settings (show Advanced) there is an option called "Custom server access URLs". Just put your DDNS address in here and users can connect directly to the Plex Server and stream at full quality.

I would prefer to just have the Gigabox in bridge mode but then nothing works. Also, I need the TV service so the Gigabox is essential to use this. There is a lot of talk about double NAT being problematic but also a lot of people saying that this concern is overblown. I can confirm I'm achieving speeds of around 480Mbps in this configuration.

I hope this helps others as this thread was very helpful to me. Thanks again to dmm1000 and S.E.A.L.s.

byproduct wrote: »

The Nest Wifi doesn't support VLAN tagging so I have to use the Gigabox as a bridge.

Cheers,

Managed switch would help you out , it does support VLAN tagging.
Just place it between ONT and Nest
https://www.amazon.co.uk/NETGEAR-5-Port-Gigabit-Ethernet-Managed/dp/B07QF51CVQ/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=KNJY5CQYI7QX&dchild=1&keywords=managed+switch&qid=1614792370&sprefix=Manage%2Caps%2C156&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzTDFCME1VNFZCOUpDJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwODQyMDAyMThWTDFOTUFVWDdITiZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNzQyODE5M0laNjZXMzRVMUVWNyZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=

Capt. Insano wrote: »

Recently got Voafone SIRO FTTH install and hated the Gigabox router, I toyed around with the Edgerouter X but found it too much of a learning curve for some of the features I wanted to enable eg. Guest network without AP isolation.
I do not use Phoneline or TV services.
I decided to go the OpenWRT route on a Netgear r7800 Nighthawk.
Here are my settings incase it helps anyone:
https://ibb.co/album/fYpFzK

Thought it may be of worth to post here.

Yes, thank you

slemon123 wrote: »

Hi. Basically, I've swapped my Sky Q broadband hub for a tp-link ac2300. Everything is working 100 times better around the house except for 1 tiny feature. Netflix will not connect on my Sky Q boxes. My main box is wired to the router. Netflix works fine on smart tv which is WiFi connected and Netflix works on all other devices but not the sky box itself. Does anybody know what might need to be changed in router settings for this. netflix error code NW-2-5

If it's working on your network via multiple devices and won't on your Sky Q boxes, it isn't likely to be your network and router settings.

The logical conclusion is the Sky Q box settings, now it could be something very specific for them in the router settings.

But Sky Technical Support or some digging via Google is needed.

jogdish wrote: »

Hi,
Thinking of getting Vodafone / SIRO, but do want to use my own ASUS 86 router WITH landline into the gigabox. SEALS seems to have solved this issue a few posts back.

However I am still a little unsure, I see alot of posts about VPN's? I need to use a VPN for work would that be an issue, is there anything else I am not thinking about before jumping in?

The ASUS firmware has a set of settings for VPN passthrough, worst case you may have to switch to Merlin firmware if not done so already (why every ASUS router supported isn't already on it still baffles me, but it's personal preference)

Also, as pointed out from earlier posts the SIRO Gigabox would be allowing the ASUS a connection via its DMZ setting, so, is technically an unfiltered connection and shouldn't effect a VPN at all

However, I've not tested any specific VPN connection protocols with those devices and can't say yes, just that it should work overall 🙌🏽

Hi folks.I set up the Orbi RBK50 yesterday and was veryb pleased with myself. Until the OH told me the Vodafone TV box wasn't working at all. So, question, if I can get the Orbi working in router mode, is there a way to get the TV box running from it too? Or do I really need to revert to having two boxes on the hall table?

TIA

Re "As alec76 said you can get rid of the Vodafone Router all together if you're not using their phone service", is there no way to get Vodafone VOIP without using the supplied Gigabox etc?

Folks I am looking to setup vpn on my gigabox..assume i need to bridge using some other modem? Thanks

Try factory reset.

How old is your Linksys? There is a chance it is not capable of Gigabit speeds.

It might do gigabit speeds without Parental Controls , QoS/traffic shaping off , firewall off , VPN server etc off.

CPU won’t be fast enough/ not enough RAM

Main Question , why would you need old Linksys router if you can’t run these services at gigabit speeds? ISP router can do the same .

Don’t believe everything you see on the box. This router is from 2016 , Gigabox will outperform it hardware wise.

1.3 Gb wireless speeds only a scam , not real life numbers.

You will be lucky to get 500-600 mbps wireless speeds, same as Gigabox.

Just back up Linksys current settings, do factory reset and see if it’ll improve speeds , you always could restore settings after.

ps. As for the new SSID. Surely you could change Gigabox’s SSID name to match all devices.

Factory reset always the Easiest way to fix the issue, unless someone has the same router as yours and he has more network experience than you.

Parental Controls , QoS/traffic shaping , firewall , VPN server , PPPoE and many more could slow down your CPU and top speed .

It’ll take to much time to resolve the issue without log file (and hardly anyone would read the file anyway) . Reset always the easiest way.

1.3 Gb wireless speeds only a scam , not real life numbers.

You CAN get over 1GB wirelessly when utilizing MiMo, my Samsung S21 Ultra for example is capable of around 960MBps due to built in 2x2 MiMo antennas.

Without MiMo theoretical bandwidth is around 600MBps