Championship and Covid

manofwisdom · 18-09-2020 2:37pm

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

Whatever people think about the restrictions, the last thing the GAA should be doing is to be looking at ways to 'get around' the public health advice in the Republic. There is an onus on the GAA to behave a lot more responsibly than that.

Will be none runner for teams in Connacht, Munster and Leinster playing their championship games in Ulster. It's a sport group action (Rugby, Soccer, GAA) in the effort to get more supporters back to matches. We all know or at least should know by now that outdoors in a big stadium is safer than indoors activity during this virus but such logic doesn't seem to be taken on board by those in power.

With over 200 cases per day over the last week the public health advice won't be changing and if the Inter County goes ahead at the end of next month we need to accept that little or no fans will be in attendance.

TCDStudent1 · 18-09-2020 2:51pm

manofwisdom wrote: »

Will be none runner for teams in Connacht, Munster and Leinster playing their championship games in Ulster. It's a sport group action (Rugby, Soccer, GAA) in the effort to get more supporters back to matches. We all know or at least should know by now that outdoors in a big stadium is safer than indoors activity during this virus but such logic doesn't seem to be taken on board by those in power.

With over 200 cases per day over the last week the public health advice won't be changing and if the Inter County goes ahead at the end of next month we need to accept that little or no fans will be in attendance.

I listened to the 3 sports organisations at the Oireachtas committee this morning. Something that struck me was that they seem to be working very closely together to find a way forward. I wonder if collaborating on this might see them collaborate closer on other stuff in the future (e.g. shared infrastructure etc.).

Coillte_Bhoy · 18-09-2020 5:13pm

manofwisdom wrote: »

Will be none runner for teams in Connacht, Munster and Leinster playing their championship games in Ulster. It's a sport group action (Rugby, Soccer, GAA) in the effort to get more supporters back to matches. We all know or at least should know by now that outdoors in a big stadium is safer than indoors activity during this virus but such logic doesn't seem to be taken on board by those in power.

With over 200 cases per day over the last week the public health advice won't be changing and if the Inter County goes ahead at the end of next month we need to accept that little or no fans will be in attendance.

Except thats not the case really is it? Its not the numbers in the stadia that is the issue, its the travelling to and from and social gatherings afterwards as has been explained time and time again

Coillte_Bhoy · 18-09-2020 5:30pm

Interesting that crowds of up to 1,000 will be allowed at some non league football games in England next week, part of a pilot scheme to try and allow crowds back to sporting events. Your average county ground would be much bigger then these stadia, so if this goes well, i hope the sporting bodies here are keeping a close eye on things

manofwisdom · 18-09-2020 5:41pm

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Except thats not the case really is it? Its not the numbers in the stadia that is the issue, its the travelling to and from and social gatherings afterwards as has been explained time and time again

That was the excuse used for putting games behind close doors on August 18th. Strangely not mentioned now when 200 supporters are allowed to attend...

kippy · 18-09-2020 5:45pm

manofwisdom wrote: »

That was the excuse used for putting games behind close doors on August 18th. Strangely not mentioned now when 200 supporters are allowed to attend...

Would you rather we remain as we were past week or would you rather people are given the chance to be personally responsible?

manofwisdom · 18-09-2020 6:41pm

kippy wrote: »

Would you rather we remain as we were past week or would you rather people are given the chance to be personally responsible?

Doesn't really matter what I'd rather.

The cases continue to rise in Dublin and the 3 weeks restrictions are required there. I'd hope the people in the other 25 counties act responsible if not all will be joining Dublin in level 3 in a matter of weeks.

benji79 · 18-09-2020 6:58pm

Are the county hurling finals off so in Dublin this weekend?

cgc5483 · 18-09-2020 7:11pm

benji79 wrote: »

Are the county hurling finals off so in Dublin this weekend?

Going ahead:

https://www.dublingaa.ie/news/dublin-gaa-statement-covid-19-restrictions

billyhead · 18-09-2020 7:44pm

benji79 wrote: »

Are the county hurling finals off so in Dublin this weekend?

Level 3 means a continuation of senior club games and inter county training and matches.

Bonniedog · 19-09-2020 4:58pm

Donegal senior footballers in self isolation after player tests positive.

And some of you think there will be a championship

seligehgit · 20-09-2020 6:58pm

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Lantern Jaw · 22-09-2020 10:20am

billyhead wrote: »

Level 3 means a continuation of senior club games and inter county training and matches.

Seeing as intermediate and junior games went aheadin Dublin last weekend, this still seems a grey area

dobman88 · 22-09-2020 10:26am

Lantern Jaw wrote: »

Seeing as intermediate and junior games went aheadin Dublin last weekend, this still seems a grey area

Its not a grey area. Its worded fùcking terribly. They should have used the term "adult" football, instead of senior. Absolutely no reason for Inter and Junior to he called off with Senior still going ahead. Wouldnt make any sense. It just shows whoever is making these rules and regulations up, hasnt a clue.

wirelessdude01 · 22-09-2020 10:26am

Lantern Jaw wrote: »

Seeing as intermediate and junior games went aheadin Dublin last weekend, this still seems a grey area

Interpretation is that senior means adult aged games such as senior, intermediate and junior. Not sure if any county would run u20/21 competitions.

blowitupref · 23-09-2020 5:45pm

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Cork v Kerry - Austin Stack Park Tralee, Monday 19 October at 6.30pm

Clare v Tipperary - Semple Stadium Thurles, Monday 19 October at 7.30pm

Waterford v Clare or Tipperary - Fraher Field Dungarvan or Sixmilebridge, Monday 26 October at 3.15pm

Limerick v Cork or Kerry - LIT Gaelic Grounds or Austin Stack Park Tralee, Monday 26 October at 5pm

Munster Final, Wednesday 11 November at 7.30pm

Electric Ireland Munster Hurling Minor Championship

Clare v Cork - Semple Stadium Thurles, Wednesday 11 November at 7.30pm

Kerry v Tipperary - LIT Gaelic Grounds, Sunday 18 October at 1pm

Waterford v Kerry or Tipperary - Páirc Uí Rinn, Friday 30 October at 6.30pm

Limerick v Clare or Cork - Semple Stadium Thurles, Friday 30 October at 6.30pm

Munster Minor Hurling Final, Saturday 14 November at 1pm

Electric Ireland Munster Football Minor Championship

Clare v Tipperary Semple Stadium Thurles, Saturday 24 October at 1pm

Limerick v Waterford LIT Gaelic Grounds, Saturday 24 October at 1pm

Cork v Kerry Fitzgerald Stadium Killarney, Saturday 7 November at 1pm

Limerick or Waterford v Clare or Tipperary in Fraher Field Dungarvan, LIT Gaelic Grounds or Cusack Park Ennis, Sunday 8 November at 1pm

Munster Minor Football Final, Saturday 14 November at 1pm

zetecescort · 24-09-2020 8:23pm

Every championship game this year to be broadcast

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40054448.html

mountgomery burns · 24-09-2020 8:36pm

zetecescort wrote: »

Every championship game this year to be broadcast

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40054448.html

Pity though that some are behind a paywall. Any other year I don't mind it but this year when people actually can't attend I don't think it's right.

The Lost Sheep · 24-09-2020 8:46pm

mountgomery burns wrote: »

Pity though that some are behind a paywall. Any other year I don't mind it but this year when people actually can't attend I don't think it's right.

It had to happen or games wouldnt be shown at all and what else would you do?

BloodyBill · 24-09-2020 9:02pm

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

It had to happen or games wouldnt be shown at all and what else would you do?

RTE is behind a pay wall too. The TV license...it should be abolished because of how bad RTE is..more left wing than the BBC

TCDStudent1 · 24-09-2020 9:49pm

mountgomery burns wrote: »

Pity though that some are behind a paywall. Any other year I don't mind it but this year when people actually can't attend I don't think it's right.

I guess it is a way for them to recoup some money that they will lose out on with no ticket sales

mountgomery burns · 24-09-2020 10:27pm

I understand the financial argument, and I'm not in two minds about paying it - I will, or I might go to a pub if they're open.

But I do feel for some elderly people in rural Ireland that may not have Sky or a good internet connection. If pubs are closed, they genuinely might not have any way to watch the match.

That said, this championship is still hanging in the balance at the moment so maybe there'll be no issue at the end of it all.

The Lost Sheep · 24-09-2020 10:50pm

BloodyBill wrote: »

RTE is behind a pay wall too. The TV license...it should be abolished because of how bad RTE is..more left wing than the BBC

Not really comparable though. TV license cant be compared to subscriptions to Sky or other groups is it.
RTE Is poor in places but that doesnt mean tv license should be scrapped and RTE is far from left orientated....

mountgomery burns wrote: »

I understand the financial argument, and I'm not in two minds about paying it - I will, or I might go to a pub if they're open.

But I do feel for some elderly people in rural Ireland that may not have Sky or a good internet connection. If pubs are closed, they genuinely might not have any way to watch the match.

That said, this championship is still hanging in the balance at the moment so maybe there'll be no issue at the end of it all.

So GAA gets lowballed in time when incomes will be substantially down?
If some elderly people really want/need to watch a game there is always ways for them to do it.
Soccer at top level in england being exclusive to fee paying channels hasnt stopped elderly people from supporting the sport/their games so it isnt a reason to not have games on sky/whoever else here.

mountgomery burns · 25-09-2020 11:59am

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

....
So GAA gets lowballed in time when incomes will be substantially down?
If some elderly people really want/need to watch a game there is always ways for them to do it.
Soccer at top level in england being exclusive to fee paying channels hasnt stopped elderly people from supporting the sport/their games so it isnt a reason to not have games on sky/whoever else here.

I know we are not comparing like with like but the premier League have made some games free to air in response to this.

I understand your argument and look I don't totally disagree with it at all, I'm kind of looking at in a more ideal world scenario I guess. In fairness I wouldn't argue that getting much depleted revenue to offset costs will ultimately be of benefit to members of the association.

It's just a pity people will miss out on these games as a result. Hopefully they can manage each county to get one game free to air, or as many as possible.

Coillte_Bhoy · 25-09-2020 2:43pm

BloodyBill wrote: »

RTE is behind a pay wall too. The TV license...it should be abolished because of how bad RTE is..more left wing than the BBC

You obviously dont understand the concept of a paywall

The Lost Sheep · 25-09-2020 3:10pm

mountgomery burns wrote: »

I know we are not comparing like with like but the premier League have made some games free to air in response to this.

I understand your argument and look I don't totally disagree with it at all, I'm kind of looking at in a more ideal world scenario I guess. In fairness I wouldn't argue that getting much depleted revenue to offset costs will ultimately be of benefit to members of the association.

It's just a pity people will miss out on these games as a result. Hopefully they can manage each county to get one game free to air, or as many as possible.

Premier League is exclusively live on pay tv in England though its not going to be that way when crowds are back.
How many people wouldnt at all know someone with the channels or not be able go somewhere to watch the games?

Trampas · 25-09-2020 4:43pm

Let’s say things are at level 2. Will all games be behind closed doors or any chance of tickets for later stages going to certain groups? Sponsors or clubs? Does anyone know?

Always_Running · 25-09-2020 4:54pm

Trampas wrote: »

Let’s say things are at level 2. Will all games be behind closed doors or any chance of tickets for later stages going to certain groups? Sponsors or clubs? Does anyone know?

Level 2 allows 200 supporters. Level 3,4 is behind closed doors. Level 5 all sports are off.

Fixtures dates, venues and times out now.

https://www.gaa.ie/news/2020-inter-county-fixtures-update/

Boom__Boom · 25-09-2020 6:24pm

Bit more detail on where the GAA are regarding the championship.

Sounds like the GAA will be doing everything in their power to have a championship.

GAA developing rapid coronavirus testing approach for Championship players

Although the venues for the All-Ireland stages aren’t confirmed for GAA HQ, it is unlikely they will be played elsewhere

FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 25, 2020 - 15:52 PM
JOHN FOGARTY

The GAA are developing a limited rapid testing approach in the event of a suspected Covid case in a squad in the immediate days prior to a Championship games.

Director of club, player and games administration Feargal McGill has explained the measure being looked at is not as sophisticated as that which is seen in professional sports.

Speaking to the media in a conference call this afternoon, he said: “We are developing what I would call a very limited rapid testing approach, which will only be used in the three or four days leading up to a game if there was a positive test in the squad.

“It will be hugely different to what is in professional sports, but it might be something that help us to ensure both the health of the players and the game can go ahead. It is only at tender stage at the minute so I can’t really comment much more on it but I emphasise it would be a very limited approach.”

McGill said the GAA don’t envisage teams having to forfeit a game unless their county is in level five of the national Covid plan. “You will have instances when there will be two, three or four players because they are Covid positive or considered close contacts.”

Highlighting that some club games that didn’t go ahead could have taken place as scheduled in spite of Covid cases, McGill continued:

A positive Covid test at the minute in some ways we are treating it like a hamstring injury. I don’t want to be flippant about it but it means you’re not available for selection, that’s the point I’m making.

Postponements will only be allowed when there is a gap of at least 13 days between stages. McGill said: “The calendar doesn’t really allow much time for postponements so one of the regulations that will be going into our regulations is we really will be only able to grant postponements where there is a 13-day window between the round and the next round. But there is very instances where that can be allowed. One exception to that is All-Ireland semi-finals and finals.”

Only Dublin going into level five lockdown will prevent the business end of the All-Ireland championships in Croke Park. Although the venues for the All-Ireland stages aren’t confirmed for GAA HQ as part of the Central Competitions Control Committee’s latest update on the Championship, McGill stated it is unlikely finals and semi-finals will be played elsewhere.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40054931.html

PTH2009 · 25-09-2020 6:30pm

Boom__Boom wrote: »

Bit more detail on where the GAA are regarding the championship.

Sounds like the GAA will be doing everything in their power to have a championship.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40054931.html

Fair play to them and I think it will really lift people's spirits

I knw the standard won't be what it is normally for championship but its better that sweet FA

Been interesting to see what will happen regards the 2021 season

Boom__Boom · 25-09-2020 6:36pm

PTH2009 wrote: »

Fair play to them and I think it will really lift people's spirits

I knw the standard won't be what it is normally for championship but its better that sweet FA

Been interesting to see what will happen regards the 2021 season

Saw an article and the general gist was very much wait and see how this year goes first and cross next year's bridge when they come it it.

PTH2009 · 25-09-2020 6:58pm

Boom__Boom wrote: »

Saw an article and the general gist was very much wait and see how this year goes first and cross next year's bridge when they come it it.

If Waterford win the hurling then we will still be drunk going into next year's league ha

27-09-2020 12:38pm

Bonniedog wrote: »

Is this English?

Five people died in hospital from the virus yesterday.

Loafing Oaf · 27-09-2020 1:27pm

Always_Running wrote: »

Level 2 allows 200 supporters.

If we actually get to level 2 before Christmas, I wonder will they tweak this for larger venues. 200 fans is kind of pointless, more trouble than it's worth...

Edit: I just realised we are in level 2, bar Dublin and Donegal. So I suppose what I meant was will they permit slightly larger crowds if and when we get to the business end of the championship.

TCDStudent1 · 27-09-2020 6:37pm

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

If we actually get to level 2 before Christmas, I wonder will they tweak this for larger venues. 200 fans is kind of pointless, more trouble than it's worth...

Edit: I just realised we are in level 2, bar Dublin and Donegal. So I suppose what I meant was will they permit slightly larger crowds if and when we get to the business end of the championship.

And the majority of GAA grounds are actually failing to manage 200 supporters at the moment. I have been in the lucky position to be at matches this year. All of the matches I have attended has seen people congregate together. So while I get the point of "200 supporters in 1 10K capacity stadium is silly", the GAA need to start showing they are capable of doing this.

This situation might be improving as the matches I watched online this weekend looked a bit better.

BonnieSituation · 27-09-2020 10:40pm

Fred Daly wrote: »

Five people died in hospital from the virus yesterday.

Did they?

Five people's deaths were notified yesterday, it doesn't mean they died yesterday.

threeball · 28-09-2020 8:32am

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

And the majority of GAA grounds are actually failing to manage 200 supporters at the moment. I have been in the lucky position to be at matches this year. All of the matches I have attended has seen people congregate together. So while I get the point of "200 supporters in 1 10K capacity stadium is silly", the GAA need to start showing they are capable of doing this.

This situation might be improving as the matches I watched online this weekend looked a bit better.

You're 100% correct on this. I've been to matches and went and sat in a section on my own and had people that I didn't know come and sit next to me (in front or behind) even though the stand was empty and I wasn't sitting in the prime viewing point. Once you pass the gate its a free for all.

wirelessdude01 · 28-09-2020 9:03am

threeball wrote: »

You're 100% correct on this. I've been to matches and went and sat in a section on my own and had people that I didn't know come and sit next to me (in front or behind) even though the stand was empty and I wasn't sitting in the prime viewing point. Once you pass the gate its a free for all.

Only place I've seen it being done properly was down in Nowlan Park.

Fr Tod Umptious · 28-09-2020 10:19am

threeball wrote: »

You're 100% correct on this. I've been to matches and went and sat in a section on my own and had people that I didn't know come and sit next to me (in front or behind) even though the stand was empty and I wasn't sitting in the prime viewing point. Once you pass the gate its a free for all.

From what I have seen over the past few months going to underage games, and in other places in society, is that people just cannot seem to cop on to the whole idea of social distancing and people just huddle together is the same places completely ignorant of the fact that staying further apart reduces the chances of any spread.

Just like the poster quoted encountered, the stand may be empty but they will still site next to where others are sitting.

Same at the underage games, the whole sideline of the field is available for the few parents or siblings that are there to spread out across
But no, they will all huddle in the one spot in in the stand.

The GAA will have to put spikes on seats for the championship if they are going to stop people huddling together, because joe public is too thick to figure it out for themselves.

Loafing Oaf · 28-09-2020 10:40am

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

From what I have seen over the past few months going to underage games, and in other places in society, is that people just cannot seem to cop on to the whole idea of social distancing and people just huddle together is the same places completely ignorant of the fact that staying further apart reduces the chances of any spread.

Just like the poster quoted encountered, the stand may be empty but they will still site next to where others are sitting.

Same at the underage games, the whole sideline of the field is available for the few parents or siblings that are there to spread out across
But no, they will all huddle in the one spot in in the stand.

The GAA will have to put spikes on seats for the championship if they are going to stop people huddling together, because joe public is too thick to figure it out for themselves.

I think if the GAA came out and told people if they didn't socially distance fans would be banned from stadiums again, I think most of them would cop on. People were slow to get with the mask thing for a long time, but now nearly everyone's doing it.

Edgware · 28-09-2020 11:31am

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

From what I have seen over the past few months going to underage games, and in other places in society, is that people just cannot seem to cop on to the whole idea of social distancing and people just huddle together is the same places completely ignorant of the fact that staying further apart reduces the chances of any spread.

Just like the poster quoted encountered, the stand may be empty but they will still site next to where others are sitting.

Same at the underage games, the whole sideline of the field is available for the few parents or siblings that are there to spread out across
But no, they will all huddle in the one spot in in the stand.

The GAA will have to put spikes on seats for the championship if they are going to stop people huddling together, because joe public is too thick to figure it out for themselves.

They are certainly showing a high level of stupidity and if that behaviour continues into the Championship with bigger attendances NEPHET will recommend all games to be played behind closed doors. Properly organised we could get a few thousand into grounds but not with this "don't give a****e " approach. The GAA will get the blame for increased infections in the same way the Cheltenham gang were blamed. The taxpayer is subsidising this years Championship so the Government needs to be kept on side

PTH2009 · 01-10-2020 5:43pm

So we're into intercounty championship month

Hard to believe were saying that for October

New Era · 02-10-2020 1:51pm

https://armaghgaa.net/covid-19/statement-from-armagh-gaa/

wirelessdude01 · 02-10-2020 1:53pm

I see Niall Morgan, the Tyrone keeper doesn't think the championship should go ahead.

PTH2009 · 02-10-2020 3:47pm

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

I see Niall Morgan, the Tyrone keeper doesn't think the championship should go ahead.

Players choice if they want to play this year or not

Other sports are playing there leagues with little to no trouble regarding the virus

I knw a lot of people here don't want it played cause of the time of year and that .

I'm all for it been played and its up to the GAA to protect squads/management/refs etc

crossman47 · 02-10-2020 4:56pm

With the situation in the North, I think chances of a championship are diminishing fast.

billyhead · 02-10-2020 7:22pm

crossman47 wrote: »

With the situation in the North, I think chances of a championship are diminishing fast.

I think it will still go ahead irrespective.

TCDStudent1 · 02-10-2020 10:17pm

billyhead wrote: »

I think it will still go ahead irrespective.

It would be an interesting predicament for the GAA if a lockdown was announced in the North but not in the South.

joebloggs32 · 03-10-2020 12:00am

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

It would be an interesting predicament for the GAA if a lockdown was announced in the North but not in the South.

"We are all in it together"

BloodyBill · 03-10-2020 3:59pm

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

It would be an interesting predicament for the GAA if a lockdown was announced in the North but not in the South.

For the Gaelic it would cause problems if Northern Ireland was locked down but not an issue for running off the Liam McCarthy .

Championship and Covid

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