Tour de France 2020 | Stage 15 (Lyon - Grand Colombier, 174.5 km)

at1withmyself · 13-09-2020 3:53pm

happytramp wrote: »

This is bonkers... How the hell is WVA dropping Bernal and quintana?

They both have bck injuries and WVA will move over in a few km

ednwireland · 13-09-2020 3:54pm

happytramp wrote: »

This is bonkers... How the hell is WVA dropping Bernal and quintana?

Bernal not showing any form thouhh

dastardly00 · 13-09-2020 3:55pm

There's obviously something wrong with Bernal (possibly ill) since Kwiatkowski & Castroviejo are still with him

lissard · 13-09-2020 3:55pm

He's totally popped.

13-09-2020 3:56pm

Yeah Bernal don't look well from that shot there. Shame if that's what's killed his chances.

at1withmyself · 13-09-2020 3:57pm

dastardly00 wrote: »

There's obviously something wrong with Bernal (possibly ill) since Kwiatkowski & Castroviejo are still with him

His back injury?

griffin100 · 13-09-2020 3:58pm

Would love to see Quintana and especially Uran on the final podium.

Brailsford starting to look like a fool for leaving 2 previous winners at home now.

at1withmyself · 13-09-2020 3:59pm

Free Landa, hopefully he goes for it shortly!!!!

Eamonnator · 13-09-2020 4:01pm

griffin100 wrote: »

Would love to see Quintana and especially Uran on the final podium.

Brailsford starting to look like a fool for leaving 2 previous winners at home now.

Only now?

at1withmyself · 13-09-2020 4:01pm

griffin100 wrote: »

Would love to see Quintana and especially Uran on the final podium.

Brailsford starting to look like a fool for leaving 2 previous winners at home now.

I couldn't see Froome doing anything at this tour so don't think he looks like a fool at all.

I hope that Sky go for stage wins now as the the likes of Kwiatski could get win a stage.

Dcully · 13-09-2020 4:03pm

Froome and Thomas inclusion would make little to no difference, jumbo visma are just too strong.

dastardly00 · 13-09-2020 4:08pm

Chapeau to Adam Yates for giving this a go

at1withmyself · 13-09-2020 4:09pm

Finally Yates attacks, surely the others will at least try secure their podium and follow him?

Dcully · 13-09-2020 4:11pm

Porte having a great ride.

lissard · 13-09-2020 4:15pm

Tom Dumoulin as a domestique is a real hammer.

at1withmyself · 13-09-2020 4:19pm

Pogacar for the stage win?

dastardly00 · 13-09-2020 4:21pm

at1withmyself wrote: »

Pogacar for the stage win?

Very possibly. Valverde could be close as well. It'd be very interesting if Pogacar ended up getting the 10 second bonification and Roglic not getting anything

Dcully · 13-09-2020 4:24pm

Slovenians 1,2 again

dastardly00 · 13-09-2020 4:25pm

As super strong as Jumbo Visma are... They still can't get rid of Pogacar. 40 seconds between them now?

griffin100 · 13-09-2020 4:28pm

at1withmyself wrote: »

I couldn't see Froome doing anything at this tour so don't think he looks like a fool at all.

I hope that Sky go for stage wins now as the the likes of Kwiatski could get win a stage.

I’d probably agree on Froome, but Thomas is going well in Italy at the minute and would’ve given Sky another option.

Jumbo Visma seem to be where Sky were a few years ago with Grand Tour contenders acting as domestiques.

13-09-2020 4:28pm

The Yellow Jersey battle is now narrowed down to who gets bragging rights as Slovenian No. 1.

Btw, Pogacar is the national TT champion, not Roglic.

Dcully · 13-09-2020 4:28pm

dastardly00 wrote: »

As super strong as Jumbo Visma are... They still can't get rid of Pogacar. 40 seconds between them now?

Indeed and pogacar beat roglic in a TT recently which in itself is some feat.

velo.2010 · 13-09-2020 4:29pm

Anticlimax for me.

13-09-2020 4:31pm

Dcully wrote: »

Indeed and pogacar beat roglic in a TT recently which in itself is some feat.

Slovenian nationals, by 9 seconds and it was an uphill one too, but much shorter than what they face next weekend.

no_4 · 13-09-2020 4:31pm

Total domination by jumbo, Ineos sky have imploded
Don’t know why Yates went at 7.5 km, he had no chance of a stage win that far out

Itziger · 13-09-2020 4:37pm

There'll be a good scrap for 3rd though.

lawrencesummers · 13-09-2020 4:50pm

no_4 wrote: »

Total domination by jumbo, Ineos sky have imploded
Don’t know why Yates went at 7.5 km, he had no chance of a stage win that far out

Looked to me like he was hoping someone would come across and join him to share the work and stay away.

lawrencesummers · 13-09-2020 4:52pm

We might see someone from Ineos like carapaz given license to Attack and claim a stage win breakaway now.

Itziger · 13-09-2020 4:53pm

Any news on Sam!?

Inquitus · 13-09-2020 5:01pm

Roglic v Pogacar for the race

Dodge · 13-09-2020 5:04pm

Itziger wrote: »

Any news on Sam!?

Over the line. Him and Ewan among a few behind the main gruppetto but no problem for cut off

c.p.w.g.w · 13-09-2020 5:05pm

What happened with bernal today?

at1withmyself · 13-09-2020 5:12pm

Inquitus wrote: »

Roglic v Pogacar for the race

Currently Pogačar could win Yellow, white & KOM jerseys.

Hopefully a few others contest the KOM this week

MPFGLB · 13-09-2020 5:26pm

Fight for Green is much better than the GC battle

Would have loved another rolling sate on Tuesday

Eamonnator · 13-09-2020 5:33pm

Itziger wrote: »

Any news on Sam!?

He's moved up one place on G.C.

velo.2010 · 13-09-2020 5:42pm

The suggestion from George Hincapie(according to his sources within the peloton) is that UAE are quite happy for Pogacar to chip away slowly at the time deficit while keeping Roglic and Jumbo in the jersey; the time loss in the crosswinds was said to be a blessing in disguise as UAE don't have the team to control the race.

If that's true then UAE consider Pogacar the strongest in the race and must be confident of him overtaking Roglic in the TT. It's a dangerous game to play and won't add much to the viewing spectacle up until the final TT. It would be nearly better if he was still 2-3 minutes down at this stage.

Itziger · 13-09-2020 6:08pm

Eamonnator wrote: »

He's moved up one place on G.C.

Very funny. Who did he jump, Bernal?

dastardly00 · 13-09-2020 6:42pm

Movistar are back in the lead of the Movistar Classification

no_4 · 13-09-2020 7:04pm

I disagree , who was gonna take that on with 3 jumbo riders on the front, it was a foolish move, doomed from the start even if he had a helper
You could see at the end he had not got the legs for a sprint or a zone 5 effort for 7 Kim’s ....

lawrencesummers wrote: »

Looked to me like he was hoping someone would come across and join him to share the work and stay away.

no_4 · 13-09-2020 7:06pm

I think he is among the strongest a clearly, he’s doing it solo for the most part in the critical phases of each stage

But for the loss in crosswinds there would only be a handful of seconds in it

velo.2010 wrote: »

The suggestion from George Hincapie(according to his sources within the peloton) is that UAE are quite happy for Pogacar to chip away slowly at the time deficit while keeping Roglic and Jumbo in the jersey; the time loss in the crosswinds was said to be a blessing in disguise as UAE don't have the team to control the race.

If that's true then UAE consider Pogacar the strongest in the race and must be confident of him overtaking Roglic in the TT. It's a dangerous game to play and won't add much to the viewing spectacle up until the final TT. It would be nearly better if he was still 2-3 minutes down at this stage.

13-09-2020 7:07pm

Thinking about it some of the buzz has gone from the Tour now. At the start I was really hoping for a ding dong battle with Ineos and Jumbo with the jersey changing hands a few times.

at1withmyself · 13-09-2020 7:35pm

You have to try, most here (including me) are complaining at lack of action but at least Yates tried something and he's the one there so has a better idea of what's going on then us. He also has to try in order to learn and sometimes it will stick and has done in the past for him so I say Kudos to him

no_4 wrote: »

I disagree , who was gonna take that on with 3 jumbo riders on the front, it was a foolish move, doomed from the start even if he had a helper
You could see at the end he had not got the legs for a sprint or a zone 5 effort for 7 Kim’s ....

redlead · 13-09-2020 7:38pm

I'm staggered over how strong Jumbo are. Their domestiques are effectively outperforming other teams GC contenders. Its reminding me of the US postal days.

no_4 · 13-09-2020 7:50pm

You try that from 700 m out, maybe, if you sense weakness in your rival.
Not 7km out Alone up against a team like team jumbo , they are gonna chase down any1 in top 20 In that scenario
It felt to me like a final flourish a la Alaphilippe when he knows he’s totally cooked

at1withmyself wrote: »

You have to try, most here (including me) are complaining at lack of action but at least Yates tried something and he's the one there so has a better idea of what's going on then us. He also has to try in order to learn and sometimes it will stick and has done in the past for him so I say Kudos to him

happytramp · 13-09-2020 7:55pm

redlead wrote: »

I'm staggered over how strong Jumbo are. Their domestiques are effectively outperforming other teams GC contenders. Its reminding me of the US postal days.

Not quite as impressive as sky in 2012/13 though. They had Froome, Porte, Thomas, Uran kyreinka and Michael rogers as dom's

lawrencesummers · 13-09-2020 8:04pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Thinking about it some of the buzz has gone from the Tour now. At the start I was really hoping for a ding dong battle with Ineos and Jumbo with the jersey changing hands a few times.

I think everyone expected more from Bernal, and from Ineos as well, but the time trial could be box office, and there is plenty more can happen between now and then

f1000 · 13-09-2020 8:04pm

https://twitter.com/BobJungels/status/1305203763536375808

Apology from Bob Jungels over the 'thing' with Sergio Higuita today

Then seen that he got levelled by the ambulance :eek:

https://twitter.com/LeGruppetto/status/1305204243503161351

dastardly00 · 13-09-2020 8:11pm

^^^^^
Was Sergio Higuita driving the ambulance! :eek:

CramCycle · 13-09-2020 8:34pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Slovenian nationals, by 9 seconds and it was an uphill one too, but much shorter than what they face next weekend.

Was this the one where he switched bikes half way up the climb from a TT bike ot a road bike or am I mixing that up with another one of the 1000 youtube videos I watched over lockdown.

13-09-2020 8:53pm

CramCycle wrote: »

Was this the one where he switched bikes half way up the climb from a TT bike ot a road bike or am I mixing that up with another one of the 1000 youtube videos I watched over lockdown.

No, now that you mention it I think he did. Lantern Rouge had a video on his channel covering it if I recall.

Tour de France 2020 | Stage 15 (Lyon - Grand Colombier, 174.5 km)

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