Brazilian Jiu Jitsu - General Thread

Mellor · 29-08-2019 1:14am

Question/Correct away. I literally only see that list once before. You are right. You have to read across the 1st Dan row for the Brown belt minimums.

BJJ minimums (strictly speaking only applies to IBJJF competition)
White No minimum
Blue 2 years
Purple 1.5 years
Brown 1 year

So officially it's 5 years minimum if you spend 6 months at white. But that would be very fast, 10 years is typical.

creeper1 · 29-08-2019 2:36am

Travis Stevens progressed from white to black belt in bjj in just 18 months. He was white for few weeks, then blue for one month and purple for few months.

I don't watch intstructionals that much but he is one of my favorite youtubers with some good content.

Mellor · 29-08-2019 3:46am

creeper1 wrote: »

Travis Stevens progressed from white to black belt in bjj in just 18 months. He was white for few weeks, then blue for one month and purple for few months.

I don't watch intstructionals that much but he is one of my favorite youtubers with some good content.

18 months of BJJ at Renzos. But he was an already an Judo Olympian with 25 years of grappling under his belt. The Fastest Ever Black Belt articles are clickbaity. BJ Penn also took longer than the 3 years often quoted.

There have people who have been promoted straight to blackbelt. Barnett, Milton Vieira, etc. But same deal, extensive grappling backgrounds not 1 day promotions (although that has happened too - honorary black belts).

eeloe · 26-09-2019 3:57pm

Anyone competing at the weekend?

Should be a great weekend of it.

Looking forward to it from here, 4lbs over at the minute, and i'm on quite late in the day on Sunday, so it's going to be a miserable few days cutting and staying at the weight.

MrStuffins · 26-09-2019 5:10pm

eeloe wrote: »

Anyone competing at the weekend?

Should be a great weekend of it.

Looking forward to it from here, 4lbs over at the minute, and i'm on quite late in the day on Sunday, so it's going to be a miserable few days cutting and staying at the weight.

I had earmarked this as my first tournie but I never signed up, and then got sick.

I see Grappling Industries are here in December. I'm just gonna bite the bullet and sign up over the weekend.

Mini850 · 27-09-2019 9:29am

eeloe wrote: »

Anyone competing at the weekend?

Should be a great weekend of it.

Looking forward to it from here, 4lbs over at the minute, and i'm on quite late in the day on Sunday, so it's going to be a miserable few days cutting and staying at the weight.

Wish I was, not competed this year at all, in spite of the fact I'm in the best condition of my life. I've made it a point to stay on weight. But none of the tournaments have fallen right date wise.

The only tournament that I could actually do was the NP Irish open, but it got rescheduled :rolleyes:

Now I may wait until the next GAMA event as herself is away this weekend.

Best of luck to all this weekend.

eeloe · 27-09-2019 5:25pm

Stuggling to lose the last couple of lbs.

Always fought at ultra, but was sick of being right on the lower end, and being against lads that had 10-15kg on me.

so decided to go down to heavy 94.3....this dieting stuff is hard!

Tazzimus · 27-09-2019 7:24pm

A good poo the morning of and you'll be under, depending how close to the limit you are.
Do they weigh you before your match now or is it still a while before?

eeloe · 28-09-2019 11:17am

Tazzimus wrote: »

A good poo the morning of and you'll be under, depending how close to the limit you are.
Do they weigh you before your match now or is it still a while before?

it's at the bullpen, so about 20 minutes before the match.

Was on the bike and sauna for about an hour this morning, and i was bang on the money, so i'm just gonna have some small meals today, and head back over to the bike and sauna tonight, and hopefully that will allow me to have breakfast tomorrow before we leave.

Gotta leave at 7am, not fighting till late in the afternoon, but there's a good few others from the club that are on at 10am and need lifts.

Mellor · 30-09-2019 11:26am

Lachlan Giles. What a performance in absolute. Legend

BERmad · 01-10-2019 3:42pm

Hi All,

Im a first time poster. Im going out to New York in a few weeks for a holiday and want to train in one of the top gyms.

Im currently looking at Renzo Gracie's gym. I would love to go to one of john Danahers classes. Does anyone know what classes he teaches.

Marcelo Garica looks to have a top class gym also.

If anyone could let me know how they got on out there that would be great.

p.s Im a blue belt and looking to train no-gi as i would have the space to bring a gi with me.

Black Sheep · 01-10-2019 4:34pm

If you check out r/bjj (Reddit's BJJ subreddit ....) there's a lot of good discussions relating to exactly what you're asking. Including details of which class Danaher teaches.

Tazzimus · 01-10-2019 4:52pm

Sub highlights from ADCC, some good stuff.

DrPhilG · 01-10-2019 9:54pm

BERmad wrote: »

Hi All,

Im a first time poster. Im going out to New York in a few weeks for a holiday and want to train in one of the top gyms.

Im currently looking at Renzo Gracie's gym. I would love to go to one of john Danahers classes. Does anyone know what classes he teaches.

Marcelo Garica looks to have a top class gym also.

If anyone could let me know how they got on out there that would be great.

p.s Im a blue belt and looking to train no-gi as i would have the space to bring a gi with me.

I went to New York for UFC 205, solo 3 day trip (wife was unamused).

Not only did I have space for a gi, I bought one at Marcelo's while I was there.

I went to a class and an open mat. I was a 2 stripe white belt at the time and it was a fun trip. I did wonder if the standard would be way different and I'd get destroyed even by those of a similar level but I held my own pretty well in the open mat.

Check out the time tables, see what fits your schedule, and enjoy.

MrStuffins · 02-10-2019 10:44am

Just signed up for my first comp. Already bricking it.

I also made the mistake of signing up in a weight class lower than my weight, but didn't take into consideration that i'll have to weigh in with the Gi on and i'm not sure where i'm gonna find those extra 2 (ish) KG :pac:

Mini850 · 03-10-2019 1:17pm

MrStuffins wrote: »

Just signed up for my first comp. Already bricking it.

I also made the mistake of signing up in a weight class lower than my weight, but didn't take into consideration that i'll have to weigh in with the Gi on and i'm not sure where i'm gonna find those extra 2 (ish) KG :pac:

You can usually change your reg details right up to close to the tournament.

Did you reg through smoothcomp?

MrStuffins · 03-10-2019 2:09pm

Mini850 wrote: »

You can usually change your reg details right up to close to the tournament.

Did you reg through smoothcomp?

I did indeed. So I can jump in at a higher weight? All good so

Mini850 · 03-10-2019 2:13pm

MrStuffins wrote: »

I did indeed. So I can jump in at a higher weight? All good so

Within reason. You have to change it before the tournament obviously. You sometimes get a mail coming close to the tournament date to say that today is the last day to change your registration etc.

Turn up on the day and weigh in over weight, and it will be home time before you start. Tournament over

tommyboy26 · 03-10-2019 5:55pm

can anyone recommend a decent brand for shorts? i need a pair for NOGI.

Dont have the body shape for just spats and top:o:o:o

feelpablo · 06-10-2019 8:19pm

tommyboy26 wrote: »

can anyone recommend a decent brand for shorts? i need a pair for NOGI.

Dont have the body shape for just spats and top:o:o:o

go irish and go wolfhound

Tazzimus · 06-10-2019 8:53pm

feelpablo wrote: »

go irish and go wolfhound

Another vote for Wolfhound. Lads are great to deal with as well.

MoleRat · 22-10-2019 9:02pm

Howdy folks - quick one - I'm starting out and gracie barra Sandyford is conveniently located and yer man seems like he has a good resumé!
however, 100/month or 16/lesson seems expensive. I understand its top quality tutoring, just would have thought 70/80 a month was more likely.

Is this typical? Is it in line with SBG / ECJJA ?

Subcomandante Marcos · 22-10-2019 9:18pm

MoleRat wrote: »

Howdy folks - quick one - I'm starting out and gracie barra Sandyford is conveniently located and yer man seems like he has a good resumé!
however, 100/month or 16/lesson seems expensive. I understand its top quality tutoring, just would have thought 70/80 a month was more likely.

Is this typical? Is it in line with SBG / ECJJA ?

Seems about right for Dublin. works out at 6.25 a lesson if you do all 16 a month, which is an absolute bargain.

MoleRat · 22-10-2019 9:24pm

yeah, I see where you're coming from. And I understand the quality of the training and that it fosters a commitment.
....just can be hard to squeeze out 100 a month when you're starting out...

TitianGerm · 22-10-2019 10:04pm

MoleRat wrote: »

yeah, I see where you're coming from. And I understand the quality of the training and that it fosters a commitment.
....just can be hard to squeeze out 100 a month when you're starting out...

I think it's €200 for ECJJ for the intro program. That's 8 weeks with a Gi.

Mellor · 22-10-2019 10:10pm

€100 a month seems fair. I’d expect more in in better equipped clubs tbh.
People compare it to gym membership. But in reality it’s more like small group personal training.

I’ve dropped in GB in Dublin. No issues with the club or Chris. But some of GB’s wider policies would put me off them as a whole.

MoleRat · 22-10-2019 10:14pm

yeah, i think once @Subcomandante Marcos said, it is a bargain when committed and attending regularly and its tuition rather than just access to equipment.
@Mellor would you mind to expand on GB's wider policies that put you off? DM if thats more appropriate.
Thanks

Tazzimus · 22-10-2019 11:24pm

I said this in a different thread somewhere:
If you get down regularly, it works out cheap as you're getting instructor led training for less than a tenner a go, you'd probably spend more than that on lunch over a day or two.

SBG is dearer, but it's not just BJJ. I think Satori are around the €100 mark as well.

It's not a cheap or easy hobby, but you get what you pay for.

Mellor · 23-10-2019 5:32am

MoleRat wrote: »

@Mellor would you mind to expand on GB's wider policies that put you off? DM if thats more appropriate.

Happy to say it open. It's nothing I wouldn't say to anyone involved directly with GB.

Just to reiterate in advance, none of this is based on my experience at dropping into GB Dundrum. And I have no idea if this applies there now. It's based on hearing about Gracie Barra HQ polices via social media, and also from Gracie Barra here in Sydney, where they have more of a network of Gyms than in Ireland.

GB is a huge organisation, with investors and as such have corporate approach to their global business (see here for examples https://graciebarra.com/for-instructors/)
I get it, a business goal is to maximise profits. But imo some of the ways they increase profits are a bit sh!tty or in some cases borderline cult behaviour.

They refer to going against those polices as "Threats to the the Red Shield". That's straight out of the L.Ron Hubard playbook.

Uniform policy: GB branded Gis are compulsory at all times. When I dropped into GB in Sydney, I have to rent a Gi. That's BS imo.
It one thing to buy team gear in support them. It's very different forcing it 24/7. I own team branded Gi, that I got when I signed up. I also own two others that I wear most of the time. Forcing student to buy all their gis from you is a money grab.

A facebook posted was shared on Reddit the other day. For GB schools in the UK who are "premium*" schools, the uniform now extended to rash guards. Only GB branded rashguards and shorts allowed in Nogi. And you have to wear a GB rashguard under your Gi in Gi class. Apparently a lot of gyms ended their affiliation over this.
https://www.reddit.com/r/bjj/comments/dlfm7h/inter_gracie_barra_beef/

MrStuffins · 11-11-2019 6:30pm

MrStuffins wrote: »

Just signed up for my first comp. Already bricking it.

I also made the mistake of signing up in a weight class lower than my weight, but didn't take into consideration that i'll have to weigh in with the Gi on and i'm not sure where i'm gonna find those extra 2 (ish) KG :pac:

Competed for the first time yesterday. Wasn't as scary as I thought it would be. Got moved from Masters to challenge the whippersnappers and at the higher weight.

Nabbed a Bronze in the process which I was delighted with. I'll definitely be competing again as soon as possible, although probably not at Grappling Industries because I managed to get myself injured in the first match.

princemuzzy · 18-11-2019 5:43pm

Anyone now of any bricks and mortar shops in Dublin city where you can buy Gi's

Apologies if this has been asked 4 million times

ssshhh123 · 19-11-2019 11:30am

princemuzzy wrote: »

Anyone now of any bricks and mortar shops in Dublin city where you can buy Gi's

Apologies if this has been asked 4 million times

Fightstore near the kcr. They have a website too if want to check price range first.

Chairman Meow · 19-11-2019 12:51pm

princemuzzy wrote: »

Anyone now of any bricks and mortar shops in Dublin city where you can buy Gi's

Apologies if this has been asked 4 million times

I hope this isnt breaking any rules, but im looking to sell my Gi if you or anyone else is interested? Its in perfect condition, A3 Wolfhound Gi. I switched to nogi recently and dont see myself going back to Gi so its up for grabs. Cost 90 euro, ill sell it for 40. Its a beautiful Gi, one of the older wolfhound ones before they changed their font

Chairman Meow · 19-11-2019 3:32pm

Mellor wrote: »

A facebook posted was shared on Reddit the other day. For GB schools in the UK who are "premium*" schools, the uniform now extended to rash guards. Only GB branded rashguards and shorts allowed in Nogi. And you have to wear a GB rashguard under your Gi in Gi class. Apparently a lot of gyms ended their affiliation over this.
https://www.reddit.com/r/bjj/comments/dlfm7h/inter_gracie_barra_beef/

This was one of the reasons i stopped going to a club in the city centre here in dublin. The day they told us we had to wear club branded rashguards and club branded Gi's only was they day i thought about moving on to a new gym. If youre charging me 100 bucks a month, you should at least treat me like a grown up and let me wear what i want under the Gi, whatever about wearing club Gi's, but forcing you to wear club rashguards at 30 quid a throw is taking the piss IMO

Mellor · 20-11-2019 4:34am

Agreed.

When I joined my gym, I got a team gi. The cost was included into my joining fee. And i'm happy for the club to get some profit/marketing out of it. But tell me I cn;y own any other gi of my choice. That's ridiculous. As you said, treat me like an adult.

Mellor · 21-11-2019 12:57am

Chairman Meow wrote: »

I hope this isnt breaking any rules, but im looking to sell my Gi if you or anyone else is interested? Its in perfect condition, A3 Wolfhound Gi. I switched to nogi recently and dont see myself going back to Gi so its up for grabs. Cost 90 euro, ill sell it for 40. Its a beautiful Gi, one of the older wolfhound ones before they changed their font

What colour is it?

Chairman Meow · 21-11-2019 10:21am

Mellor wrote: »

What colour is it?

this is it here: https://imgur.com/a/2yeLpUL

A poster has said hell take it already but if youre interested and it falls through ill give you a shout

Jimmy Bottlehead · 21-11-2019 12:35pm

I bought a new Tatami Estilo 6.0 Black and Graphite gi last week, but Amazon sent me A3S instead of A3 by mistake.

Got it for a great price (€100) and am happy to let it go at that if anyone wants it, before I send it back to Amazon. I tried it on once, so it's still in the packaging with the labels.

Here it is:

https://eu.tatamifightwear.com/products/estilo-6-0-black-graphite-1

aFlabbyPanda · 21-11-2019 1:04pm

Jimmy Bottlehead wrote: »

I bought a new Tatami Estilo 6.0 Black and Graphite gi last week, but Amazon sent me A3S instead of A3 by mistake.

Got it for a great price (€100) and am happy to let it go at that if anyone wants it, before I send it back to Amazon. I tried it on once, so it's still in the packaging with the labels.

Here it is:

https://eu.tatamifightwear.com/products/estilo-6-0-black-graphite-1

I might if you can hang on till payday and getting it from was easy enough.

Tazzimus · 21-11-2019 3:23pm

Mellor wrote: »

What colour is it?

G'way you, it's mine :pac:

Cheers Chairman Meow, I should have walked, would have been less tiring than that cycle

Chairman Meow · 21-11-2019 4:48pm

Tazzimus wrote: »

G'way you, it's mine :pac:

Cheers Chairman Meow, I should have walked, would have been less tiring than that cycle

No worries man! If theres any problems with the sizing or anything just let me know, ill refund you no worries.

Mellor · 21-11-2019 10:52pm

Tazzimus wrote: »

G'way you, it's mine :pac:

Cheers Chairman Meow, I should have walked, would have been less tiring than that cycle

Haha all good. I have the new white one anyone.
Need new shorts more than a gi tbh

RoboRat · 22-11-2019 12:41pm

G'way you, it's mine

Fighting over a second hand gi... that's what I like to hear :-)

We have new shorts coming soon, just finalising the design but they will have an elasticated waist with velcro and a pull string. The last shorts were a mare with sizing so we have changed.

Been off the mats since May as I had to have 3 lumps of bone taken out of my knee. Hoping to get back properly in the NY but taking a few classes and passing on the knowledge for now.

Doff · 28-11-2019 4:26pm

Anyone have any experience with SBG24? I couldn't get an answer when I rang and there's nothing on their website about timetables, membership fees, class sizes etc. I'm looking to join a club around the Tallaght area.

Tazzimus · 28-11-2019 4:36pm

Doff wrote: »

Anyone have any experience with SBG24? I couldn't get an answer when I rang and there's nothing on their website about timetables, membership fees, class sizes etc. I'm looking to join a club around the Tallaght area.

Could always call in.
Good few decent coaches up there.

I'd assume it's a bit cheaper than HQ, so probably around the €100 mark a month. Class size will vary, depending on who shows up on the night, what level of class, time of year etc.

Doff · 28-11-2019 4:55pm

Tazzimus wrote: »

Could always call in.
Good few decent coaches up there.

I'd assume it's a bit cheaper than HQ, so probably around the €100 mark a month. Class size will vary, depending on who shows up on the night, what level of class, time of year etc.

Probably a stupid question but are they open outside of class hours? Previous places I went to only opened during class hours and I wouldn't want to be disturbing a class that is in session.

Subcomandante Marcos · 28-11-2019 5:19pm

Doff wrote: »

Anyone have any experience with SBG24? I couldn't get an answer when I rang and there's nothing on their website about timetables, membership fees, class sizes etc. I'm looking to join a club around the Tallaght area.

One of the best gi bjj players and coaches in the country (Joey Breslin) is the head bjj coach, and Paddy is as good a coach as anyone for both fighting and bjj.

If the rest of the staff are as sound and competent as the two lads you'd be on yo a winner.

arybvtcw0eolkf · 30-11-2019 12:01am

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

One of the best gi bjj players and coaches in the country (Joey Breslin) is the head bjj coach, and Paddy is as good a coach as anyone for both fighting and bjj.

If the rest of the staff are as sound and competent as the two lads you'd be on yo a winner.

A little unrelated but Paddy's book is worth a read.

Subcomandante Marcos · 30-11-2019 8:46pm

Tom King awarded Paddy Holohan his black belt today.

Well deserved and hard earned.

Tazzimus · 30-11-2019 9:32pm

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Tom King awarded Paddy Holohan his black belt today.

Well deserved and hard earned.

Long overdue that one.
See Ais got a promotion as well, first Dan I think?

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