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Seriously facebook?

  • 06-07-2017 1:21am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭


    For a while now I've been grand with fb. It's a brilliant free service to stay in contact and know whats going on.

    Not mentioning the glaring problems including their ever increasing pushy ads, invasive nature of the mobile apps, erosion of privacy, giving a voice to literally any idiot's uninformed opinion on a subject, etc.

    But recently I find their ads to be crossing from lacking a moral compass to downright disgusting.

    I've just seen another 2 highly biased "insider scoops" of repeal the 8th rallies. I keep getting these. I've no idea why fb feels the need to convince me that abortion is so evil all the time.

    These ones were supposedly interviewing representatives of the pro choice movement, showing how ignorant they are. Suggest búll**** like abortion to be legalised the day before the baby's born (which literally NEVER happens). Shít like that.

    Where are these coming from? Why do their staff monitoring content and deciding personal ad algorithms think this is okay? And more importantly, WHO is paying for it?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    diograis wrote: »

    But recently I find their ads to be crossing from lacking a moral compass to downright disgusting.

    Their ads are based on your internet searches. :pac::pac::pac:
    Ya dirty fecker!


  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    diograis wrote: »
    For a while now I've been grand with fb. It's a brilliant free service to stay in contact and know whats going on.

    Not mentioning the glaring problems including their ever increasing pushy ads, invasive nature of the mobile apps, erosion of privacy, giving a voice to literally any idiot's uninformed opinion on a subject, etc.

    But recently I find their ads to be crossing from lacking a moral compass to downright disgusting.

    I've just seen another 2 highly biased "insider scoops" of repeal the 8th rallies. I keep getting these. I've no idea why fb feels the need to convince me that abortion is so evil all the time.

    These ones were supposedly interviewing representatives of the pro choice movement, showing how ignorant they are. Suggest búll**** like abortion to be legalised the day before the baby's born (which literally NEVER happens). Shít like that.

    Where are these coming from? Why do their staff monitoring content and deciding personal ad algorithms think this is okay? And more importantly, WHO is paying for it?

    Presumably their algorithms are picking up a lot of 8th amendment-related content on your Facebook (either articles you're sharing, commenting on, or simply clicking on), and they're providing you with related content.

    I guess Facebook haven't yet developed an algorithm which predicts which users only want to see one side of an argument.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,058 ✭✭✭whoopsadoodles


    All I see in my ads is dresses which makes sense considering all I use the internet for is to buy dresses.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    diograis wrote: »
    I've no idea why fb feels the need to convince me that abortion is so evil all the time.

    These ones were supposedly interviewing representatives of the pro choice movement, showing how ignorant they are. Suggest búll**** like abortion to be legalised the day before the baby's born (which literally NEVER happens). Shít like that.

    Where are these coming from? Why do their staff monitoring content and deciding personal ad algorithms think this is okay? And more importantly, WHO is paying for it?

    Oooooooops. Looks like your interest is leading to paranoia and conspiracy theories!

    Facebook is making me pro life, is it funded by US abortion clinic bombers?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    All I'm seeing recently is ads for some makeup pyramid scheme called Younique.

    Just change your settings OP and you won't see them again.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,460 ✭✭✭Barry Badrinath


    I'm not on FB and I don't have an iPhone.

    I'm cool.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,245 ✭✭✭myshirt


    Why does the internet always suggest there are hot Russian girls in my area who want to meet up?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,395 ✭✭✭sjb25


    Jesus Wept wrote: »
    Their ads are based on your internet searches. :pac::pac::pac:
    Ya dirty fecker!

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WmDhdmgYbaQ :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,544 ✭✭✭Samaris


    That or it may be a (still very limited!) micro-targeting campaign. It will be interesting to see if there's a sudden burst of these in the lead-up to the referendum, assuming we ever get around to it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,525 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Put a positive spin on it. They are wasting their money when facebook shows you their ads.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,909 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    diograis wrote: »
    It's a brilliant free service.....

    its not free!


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    If you hide the ads, they'll display a reason as to why you were targeted. The pro-life ones I hid informed me that their targeted demographic was people who had lived in Ireland recently or living in Ireland currently and fit into the 18-65 age bracket.

    If a website has a tracking code called a Facebook pixel running in the background, then this allows Facebook to track what you do on that site. If you received an ad based on a site you've visited, this is likely why.

    It's both alarming and fascinating to see how powerful Facebook's advertising platform is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,021 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    All I see in my ads is dresses which makes sense considering all I use the internet for is to buy dresses.

    Ha ha, well all I'm seeing is menopause ads, was just saying this to people in work yesterday...like wtf....is FB trying to tell me something!!!


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    anewme wrote: »
    Ha ha, well all I'm seeing is menopause ads, was just saying this to people in work yesterday...like wtf....is FB trying to tell me something!!!

    Likely you fit into a specific age bracket and are female.

    Funniest ad targeting I've seen is a funeral home/crematorium (can't remember which) targeting people with elderly parents.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,316 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    This makes for an interesting read. They can target you based on a number of different factors.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/may/27/conservatives-facebook-dark-ads-data-protection-election


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,626 ✭✭✭Glenster


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    its not free!

    Yeah it is. Just because it benefits someone else doesn't mean its not free.

    That's like saying the air we breathe isn't free because the CO2 we respire is used by plants to fix carbon.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,734 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap


    I just get ads for runners. I look at too many runners that I never buy.
    I like runners.

    Runners.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,571 Mod ✭✭✭✭Robbo


    Funniest ad targeting I've seen is a funeral home/crematorium (can't remember which) targeting people with elderly parents.
    Sick burn.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,637 ✭✭✭joebloggs32


    myshirt wrote: »
    Why does the internet always suggest there are hot Russian girls in my area who want to meet up?

    If you lived in Moscow would it tell you about some hot Irish girls in your area that want to meet up!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    I wish we lived in a world where people would be prepared to pay a modest subscription fee for a service that offers the rather simple functions that Facebook does, so we could be the customers rather than the product. I hate Facebook, but in the modern era I'm more or less forced to maintain a profile. It would be wonderful if we could all be doing that on a platform that wasn't selling us instead.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,514 ✭✭✭recyclebin


    Hey OP, is this thread about facebook ads or abortion? Cause you seem to have an agenda!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    I'm not on facebook but my missus is. At home last night talking, and I mention in passing "I got a quote for life insurance today" 2 minutes later she has an add for life insurance.
    Could be a coincidence I suppose - but do they actually listen to what you say, as opposed to scan your searches, messages and so on? Cos that's fúcking creepy if they do! It's basically bugging your house!

    Edit - Just done a quick google search and it's a bit murky - they say they do listen, sometimes, but they don't record it or use it to target adds.
    I'm just going to come straight out with it - I 100% don't believe them, they're spying on everyone.
    That's some creepy big brother shít right there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,316 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    I'm not on facebook but my missus is. At home last night talking, and I mention in passing "I got a quote for life insurance today" 2 minutes later she has an add for life insurance.
    Could be a coincidence I suppose - but do they actually listen to what you say, as opposed to scan your searches, messages and so on? Cos that's fúcking creepy if they do! It's basically bugging your house!

    facebook doesn't. But your TV might be listening to you.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-31296188


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,909 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Glenster wrote: »
    Yeah it is. Just because it benefits someone else doesn't mean its not free.

    That's like saying the air we breathe isn't free because the CO2 we respire is used by plants to fix carbon.

    its free to use but not actually free, you re giving up your rights to your information, to be used for whatever purposes and accepting their right to bombard you with advertising.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,525 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Glenster wrote: »
    Yeah it is. Just because it benefits someone else doesn't mean its not free.

    That's like saying the air we breathe isn't free because the CO2 we respire is used by plants to fix carbon.
    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    its free to use but not actually free, you re giving up your rights to your information, to be used for whatever purposes and accepting their right to bombard you with advertising.


    exactly. just because you are not paying cash doesnt mean it is free. you are exchanging something for access to FB. that something is then sold by FB.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Grayson wrote: »
    This makes for an interesting read. They can target you based on a number of different factors.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/may/27/conservatives-facebook-dark-ads-data-protection-election

    Lookalike audiences are crazy powerful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,422 ✭✭✭Ms Doubtfire1


    ugh.there are a few programs you can attach to your google and it will take out all the crap. block pushy ads etc etc..love it, my fb is just the way i want it - without advertising and games invites brrrrrrrrrrrrrr


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,271 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    All I see in my ads is dresses which makes sense considering all I use the internet for is to buy dresses.

    and boards

    ******



  • Registered Users Posts: 768 ✭✭✭Uncle_moe


    ugh.there are a few programs you can attach to your google and it will take out all the crap. block pushy ads etc etc..love it, my fb is just the way i want it - without advertising and games invites brrrrrrrrrrrrrr

    What ad blocker are you using, mine doesn't stop sponsored posts on FB unless you manually add a filter.
    Sure there'd be nothing worth seeing on FB if it wasn't for ads, it's like crappy infomercial ads on tv.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,058 ✭✭✭whoopsadoodles


    and boards

    what's "boards"?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,271 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    what's "boards"?

    What you are on now

    ******



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,336 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    its not free!

    You obviously didn't copy and paste that post that was going around a few years ago. They don't charge me and they've no right to use my photos. Always copy and paste, amen.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,058 ✭✭✭whoopsadoodles


    What you are on now

    I'm on my phone now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,909 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    PARlance wrote:
    You obviously didn't copy and paste that post that was going around a few years ago. They don't charge me and they've no right to use my photos. Always copy and paste, amen.


    Don't matter what laws are there, companies such as Facebook can just more or less ignore them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,305 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    Big Brother is watching you!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭Winterlong


    The ads on facebook never really bothered me until recently. There just seem to be more and more of them. Along with 'sponsored features'.
    Gets harder to see actual real people updates. But sure - it's free.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,693 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    What annoys me is the way advertising pops up because a FB contact likes the page...not the ad/post itself, just the page.

    So if a contact has ever liked, say, Trivago's FB page, I get all their updates, each one headed with 'XYZ likes Trivago'.

    But that 'Hide all notifications from...' is easy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭Temptamperu


    I keep getting hair replacement adverts.... I have thick hair down to my shoulders and i dont search that kind of thing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 921 ✭✭✭benjamin d


    Facebook is basically just a ****ty news aggregator for me nowadays. My friends rarely post anything, so all I get are the news stories they like or articles from pages I've liked. It's pretty irrelevant to me as a platform yet I'm on the bloody thing every day!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,830 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    If you click above the ad to the right theirs away you can not ask to similar ads again.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,693 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    If you click above the ad to the right theirs away you can not ask to similar ads again.
    They will just be replaced with more ads though, the volume won't change.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,830 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    osarusan wrote: »
    They will just be replaced with more ads though, the volume won't change.

    I got the impression tough the OP's problem was they didn't want to see ads about keeping the 8th amendment. They might be able to get these to disappear.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,693 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    I got the impression tough the OP's problem was they didn't want to see ads about keeping the 8th amendment. They might be able to get these to disappear.

    Yeah, sorry, forgot what the OP was about!


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,544 ✭✭✭Samaris


    I complained a while back that I'd been doing a search for a certain company -in- my workplace, on a workplace computer...come home, turn on the laptop and what company is now advertising on whatever webpage I was on? Yeah, and that company is a large one, but very specialised and not likely to be randomly there.

    Possible that I spoke aloud about it beforehand, the google record thing I don't trust a bit.

    It's pretty easy to turn it on accidentally on your phone as well. Try to avoid saying "Okay Google" out loud! ("Okay, google "is a duck an avian" then..")


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    If you're signed in on one Google account and then on the same Google account at home, then I believe the cookies transfer across.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭diograis


    Jesus Wept wrote: »
    Their ads are based on your internet searches. :pac::pac::pac:
    Ya dirty fecker!

    gas :P

    I was referring more to ones implying abortion is murder and how same sex marriage will lead to the downfall of humanity haha. Saucy enough


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭diograis


    If you hide the ads, they'll display a reason as to why you were targeted. The pro-life ones I hid informed me that their targeted demographic was people who had lived in Ireland recently or living in Ireland currently and fit into the 18-65 age bracket.

    If a website has a tracking code called a Facebook pixel running in the background, then this allows Facebook to track what you do on that site. If you received an ad based on a site you've visited, this is likely why.

    It's both alarming and fascinating to see how powerful Facebook's advertising platform is.

    Jesus


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭diograis


    Oooooooops. Looks like your interest is leading to paranoia and conspiracy theories!

    Facebook is making me pro life, is it funded by US abortion clinic bombers?

    Doubt many people will be convinced, they see it as it is, right wing biased rubbish. Not getting any pro choice ones funnily enough. US money involved with targeted advertising against the SSR is well documented.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    diograis wrote: »
    Jesus

    Oh yea, it allows for a crazy amount to be done in the background. But that's generally why you would see advertisements on Facebook after visiting different websites. You can actually download extensions for Google Chrome (probably Firefox too) that will show you if a site uses a Facebook Pixel and whether it is active.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    diograis wrote: »
    giving a voice to literally any idiot's uninformed opinion on a subject
    Are we talking about boards?



    The reason FB is free is that you/we/us are the product being sold.

    fremium-model2.jpg


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