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Could a terror attack happen in Ireland?

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  • #552
    ytpe2r5bxkn0c1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Did we not have this topic to exhaustion recently?

    Terrorists trying to ware us down?


  • #553
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    You started the thread a day early

    Friday is the day things seem to happen


  • #554
    El_Duderino 09
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,559 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    dabins wrote:
    What would the response be like, and who would respond?


    Same as everywhere else that gets attacked.

    Some people would react with dignity and see what measured response would useful. The English have been remarkably dignified in their response to the 3 recent attacks.

    Cowards would p1ss themselves and call for Muslim bans etc. Racists would see it as an excuse to express their racism.


  • #555
    dabins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 12 ✭dabins


    dabins wrote: »
    Here are two more questions.

    Give me a detailed scenario of an attack in Dublin and detail the probable response please,
    and, have you ever been caught up or in a city during a terror attack, what was it like?

    Please answer.


  • #556
    WinnyThePoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭WinnyThePoo


    dabins wrote: »
    Please answer.

    Nope


  • #557
    ytpe2r5bxkn0c1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    dabins wrote: »
    Please answer.

    Why?

    You're not the boss of me....... yet.


  • #558
    maxwell smart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,939 ✭✭✭maxwell smart


    Our highly paid and motivated Garda would be quick to respond and put their lives on the line in our defence.

    Then, if there are casualties, our world class, highly resourced health service would roll into action making sure there was plenty of room available in our major hospitals.

    Our politicians would be calm and collected, ensuring not one of them use such an incident as a way of making personal political points against each other, they would stand together.

    I can see it now.........

    Oh hang on, actually we'd be totally fooked.


  • #559
    Kivaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    dabins wrote: »
    Also, who would be the security source here, my guess is MI5 or MI6.

    The British secret security services are already operating in Ireland tracking the jihadists that the Irish freely left in. The Irish liberal left (Liam Cunningham et al.) would be crying bloody murder (pun intended) if anything was done to impede the 'rights' of these jihadists in Ireland.


  • #560
    Kivaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    maxwell smart wrote: »
    Our highly paid and motivated Garda would be quick to respond and put their lives on the line in our defence.

    Then, if there are casualties, our world class, highly resourced health service would roll into action making sure there was plenty of room available in our major hospitals.

    Our politicians would be calm and collected, ensuring not one of them use such an incident as a way of making personal political points against each other, they would stand together.

    I can see it now.........

    Oh hang on, actually we'd be totally fooked.

    And don't forget that RTE will have the usual 'experts' from the Islamic Council of Ireland and other similar groups on 6/1 news telling us to "not to knee jerk" in response to the carnage. At least that is what the woman from the Immigrant Council of Ireland told us when she was the expert on the 6/1 news after the most recent terrorist event in London.


  • #561
    osarusan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,694 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    Depends on the location and kind of attack.

    If it was on a symbolic target like the Dail or Dublin castle or somewhere similar, the response would probably be decent.

    But if it drivers armed with knives ploughing a car into into people in somewhere like Ennis, the response would probably be slow.


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  • #562
    El_Duderino 09
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,559 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Kivaro wrote:
    . The Irish liberal left would be crying bloody murder if anything was done to impede the 'rights' of these jihadists in Ireland.

    I doubt anyone would object to impeding the rights of jihadists. If someone is prove to be a jihadi then hey should face prosecution for their crime.

    If you mean wide sweeping impediment to the rights of Muslims in case they are jihadis,then you'd have lots of people object. Internment in northern Ireland gives us a precedent for what it would look like. The 'liberal left' would be right to cry bloody murder if someone suggested something like that.


  • #563
    Kivaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

    If you mean wide sweeping impediment to the rights of Muslims in case they are jihadis,then you'd have lots of people object. Internment in northern Ireland gives us a precedent for what it would look like. The 'liberal left' would be right to cry bloody murder if someone suggested something like that.

    That's some jump there snowflake.

    And it's not cool to edit quotes.


  • #564
    El_Duderino 09
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,559 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Kivaro wrote:
    That's some jump there snowflake.
    Snowflake must have changed meaning. I don't get the context.
    Kivaro wrote:
    And it's not cool to edit quotes.
    Just editing out irrelevant details for ease of reading.

    Anyway if you want to play the ball rather than the man, feel free


  • #565
    Kivaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

    Just editing out irrelevant details for ease of reading.
    Anyway if you want to play the ball rather than the man, feel free

    I am playing the ball .......
    Just trying to get you to come down from the hyperbole.


  • #566
    El_Duderino 09
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,559 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Kivaro wrote:
    I am playing the ball ....... Just trying to get you to come down from the hyperbole.

    Hyperbole?

    I made a destination between impeding the rights of proven jihadis Vs impeding the rights of a wide group in case they're jihadis as has actually happened on this island in the recent past. I think the left would rightly oppose one and not the other.

    You whinged about snowflakes and editing quotes and hyperbole. If you want to make an argument, that would be more interesting.


  • #567
    Kivaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    El_Duderino 09 wrote: »
    Hyperbole?

    I made a destination between impeding the rights of proven jihadis Vs impeding the rights of a wide group in case they're jihadis as has actually happened on this island in the recent past. I think the left would rightly oppose one and not the other.

    You whinged about snowflakes and editing quotes and hyperbole. If you want to make an argument, that would be more interesting.

    That's just a confusing post, so I'll leave you at it.


  • #568
    Arcade_Tryer
    Registered Users Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Arcade_Tryer


    There already was a terror attack on Ireland. It happened in 2008/09.


  • #569
    El_Duderino 09
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,559 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Kivaro wrote:
    That's just a confusing post, so I'll leave you at it.

    Much better idea than trying to cobble together an actual argument against what I said. Fair play.


  • #570
    jeanjolie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 484 ✭✭jeanjolie


    Arcade_Tryer wrote: »
    There already was a terror attack on Ireland. It happened in 2008/09.

    Financial terrorism that lead to the recession you mean..



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  • #571
    jeanjolie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 484 ✭✭jeanjolie


    We will get a terror attack but it will be very difficult to pull off.

    We tend to forget that Ireland isn't the 'neutral' happy go-lucky country across the world. We may not be involved in wars in the Middle East but our lifestyle and the ideals we share do piss a lot of people off.non-religious extremists are most likely going to mount an attack.

    The only problem is access to any destructive weapon (firearm, explosive) or even low level chemical weapons is extremely difficult. This probably discounts lone wolf attackers.

    An attack here is even more likely because Ireland still hasn't 'lost it's innocence' in regards to terror attacks like the US, UK and France. Most likely any attack will try to exploit and bring to light the unpreparedness of the health service and law enforcement which will certainly provoke a reaction to start changing laws and mindsets...all what the next terror group wants.


  • #572
    Barry Badrinath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,460 ✭✭✭Barry Badrinath


    jeanjolie wrote: »
    We will get a terror attack but it will be very difficult to pull off.

    Wrong. It would be a relatively easy task.
    jeanjolie wrote: »
    We tend to forget that Ireland isn't the 'neutral' happy go-lucky country across the world. We may not be involved in wars in the Middle East but our lifestyle and the ideals we share do piss a lot of people off.non-religious extremists are most likely going to mount an attack.

    Wrong. The Defence Forces are operating in the Mediterranean, the Middle East and Africa. All areas where extremists operate. Our ties with NATO and the U.S are also a factor.

    Also, what is a "non-religious extremist"?!
    jeanjolie wrote: »
    The only problem is access to any destructive weapon (firearm, explosive) or even low level chemical weapons is extremely difficult. This probably discounts lone wolf attackers.

    Wrong. What does this mean? In situations where small arms weapons or CW are not accessible, the low capability attack is the weapon of choice for lone wolf attacks.....cars, trucks, knives. In fact, low level CW and explosives can be made from mixing shop bought detergents.
    jeanjolie wrote: »
    An attack here is even more likely because Ireland still hasn't 'lost it's innocence' in regards to terror attacks like the US, UK and France. Most likely any attack will try to exploit and bring to light the unpreparedness of the health service and law enforcement which will certainly provoke a reaction to start changing laws and mindsets...all what the next terror group wants.

    Wrong. Most cities in the World are unprepared for low capability attacks. You can't have police on every corner 24/7. Exploitation of weakness is always used.

    And why would the next terror group want us to change our laws, mindsets and reactions to terror attacks?

    Your post is full of rubbish.


  • #573
    Atoms for Peace
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,888 ✭✭✭Atoms for Peace


    We've had them in the past and will have them again, but there's no point in getting too work up. We should probably have stricter immigration controls though.


  • #574
    jeanjolie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 484 ✭✭jeanjolie


    Senor Fancy Pants wrote: »

    Your post is full of rubbish.

    Thanks :D haha... No proof whatsoever. It's just 'rubbish'.


  • #575
    BowSideChamp
    Registered Users Posts: 272 ✭✭BowSideChamp


    Lots of people with nowhere to go and no help.

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  • #576
    masculinist
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭masculinist


    jeanjolie wrote: »

    The only problem is access to any destructive weapon (firearm, explosive) or even low level chemical weapons is extremely difficult. This probably discounts lone wolf attackers.

    No its not. I'd shytepost some more but I dont want to give any destructive idiots ideas. Everything necessary to cause huge destruction is legally available. The only thing missing is a brain. Hopefully they will stay stupid.


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  • #577
    El_Duderino 09
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,559 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    jeanjolie wrote: »
    We will get a terror attack but it will be very difficult to pull off.

    The only problem is access to any destructive weapon (firearm, explosive) or even low level chemical weapons is extremely difficult. This probably discounts lone wolf attackers.

    Anyone could drive a car up onto a footpath like the lad did outside Westminster. All it takes is a car and the will to do it. It couldn't be predicted or stopped but it hasn't happened so far. It's not worth worrying about but of course it could happen


  • #578
    jeanjolie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 484 ✭✭jeanjolie


    El_Duderino 09 wrote: »
    Anyone could drive a car up onto a footpath like the lad did outside Westminster. All it takes is a car and the will to do it. It couldn't be predicted or stopped but it hasn't happened so far. It's not worth worrying about but of course it could happen

    Okay but what if they wanted to target the transportation system (Luas and Dublin Bus)? Not sure if terrorists here could get a hold of h2o2 like the London Bombers in a sufficient enough concentration.


  • #579
    El_Duderino 09
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,559 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    jeanjolie wrote: »
    Okay but what if they wanted to target the transportation system (Luas and Dublin Bus)? Not sure if terrorists here could get a hold of h2o2 like the London Bombers in a sufficient enough concentration.

    That might be true but they don't have to do anything that elaborate. A mad yolk with a kitchen knife can be considered a terrorist attack


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