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Question about a supplement

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  • 20-05-2019 11:45am
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    .Charlo
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 335 ✭✭


    I have just picked up some muscle rage quad and muscle rage king test from the supplement store in Blanchardstown. Cant find too many reviews online of either product.

    Has anyone used either of these products?


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    Alf Veedersane
    Registered Users Posts: 24,552 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    The test booster isn't worth a whole lot, to be honest. Not just that brand - they're generally not much use.


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    Mellor
    Registered Users Posts: 39,023 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    The test king is just a typical test booster supplement. Overpriced DAA with a multivitamin.


    The quad one however isn't a supplement. I'd do my reasearch before you take that one. Just make sure you know what's in it.


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    Alf Veedersane
    Registered Users Posts: 24,552 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    For a starter, Osta Rage is probably Ostarine, which has resulted in doping bans in some high profile cases.

    Health warnings have been issued for Cardarine.

    Second what Mellor said, do some proper research into it.


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    .Charlo
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 335 ✭✭.Charlo


    Thanks lads.


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    Alf Veedersane
    Registered Users Posts: 24,552 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Worth having a listen to this podcast on SARMs on what they are and how they work. It's a bit sciencey but I think it's explained relatively well.


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    Mellor
    Registered Users Posts: 39,023 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Alf Veedersane wrote: »
    For a starter, Osta Rage is probably Ostarine, which has resulted in doping bans in some high profile cases.

    There no probably. The ingredients are listed the bottom. That said, being responsible for doping bans is purely because it's on the WADA list itself.


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    .Charlo
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 335 ✭✭.Charlo


    Mellor wrote: »
    There no probably. The ingredients are listed the bottom. That said, being responsible for doping bans is purely because it's on the WADA list itself.

    Yeah I seen a couple of MMA fighters got done for LGD4033. I thinks it's only recently been added to the WADA list. On the legality of it, it's not classed as a steroid so is it legal?


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    Alf Veedersane
    Registered Users Posts: 24,552 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Mellor wrote: »
    There no probably. The ingredients are listed the bottom. That said, being responsible for doping bans is purely because it's on the WADA list itself.

    Didn't see the actual ingredients...just saw the description of the 4.

    I had included the reference to WASA as just being for info, just as an FYI for what it was worth to the OP.


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    Alf Veedersane
    Registered Users Posts: 24,552 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    .Charlo wrote: »
    Yeah I seen a couple of MMA fighters got done for LGD4033. I thinks it's only recently been added to the WADA list. On the legality of it, it's not classed as a steroid so is it legal?

    Pretty sure they're not illegal.


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    Mellor
    Registered Users Posts: 39,023 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    .Charlo wrote: »
    Yeah I seen a couple of MMA fighters got done for LGD4033. I thinks it's only recently been added to the WADA list. On the legality of it, it's not classed as a steroid so is it legal?

    It's not a steroid.
    It is a drug.
    It legal, for now at least.


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    paw patrol
    Registered Users Posts: 2,314 ✭✭✭paw patrol


    what fcuking shop is selling sarms to a fella who didn't ask for sarms or doesn't know that what they buying is sarms.
    No offence to you OP , the shop shouldn't be selling that stuff to punters who don't ask for it


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    .Charlo
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 335 ✭✭.Charlo


    paw patrol wrote: »
    what fcuking shop is selling sarms to a fella who didn't ask for sarms or doesn't know that what they buying is sarms.
    No offence to you OP , the shop shouldn't be selling that stuff to punters who don't ask for it

    I knew what it was, I was being careful with the wording in the OP because I wasnt sure on the legality. Just wanted to see if anyone had any experiences of the stuff.


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    paw patrol
    Registered Users Posts: 2,314 ✭✭✭paw patrol


    .Charlo wrote: »
    I knew what it was, I was being careful with the wording in the OP because I wasnt sure on the legality. Just wanted to see if anyone had any experiences of the stuff.

    ah right
    fair enough - my outrage is back to medium.:pac:


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    abc2304
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    .Charlo wrote: »
    I have just picked up some muscle rage quad and muscle rage king test from the supplement store in Blanchardstown. Cant find too many reviews online of either product.

    Has anyone used either of these products?

    From what I understand, 'sarms' seem to fall into a legal grey area in Ireland. It appears that it's not legal to sell them in Ireland, but many people source them from the UK or NI


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    abc2304
    Registered Users Posts: 29 ✭abc2304


    abc2304 wrote: »
    From what I understand, 'sarms' seem to fall into a legal grey area in Ireland. It appears that it's not legal to sell them in Ireland, but many people source them from the UK or NI

    I have found an Irish supplier if anyone's still interested? https://reinforced.ie/


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    granny_slayer
    Registered Users Posts: 404 ✭✭granny_slayer


    https://reinforced.ie/products/destiny-labs-zeus

    Anyone have any experience with this product ?

    Experienced lifter here, the recommended dosage on it seems high to be honest.

    Any reply appreciated, or if any could point me in the right direction.


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    Mellor
    Registered Users Posts: 39,023 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    granny_slayer wrote: »
    [l
    Experienced lifter here, the recommended dosage on it seems high to be honest..

    High based on what?


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    paw patrol
    Registered Users Posts: 2,314 ✭✭✭paw patrol


    granny_slayer wrote: »
    https://reinforced.ie/products/destiny-labs-zeus

    Anyone have any experience with this product ?

    Experienced lifter here, the recommended dosage on it seems high to be honest.

    Any reply appreciated, or if any could point me in the right direction.

    I've not taken sarms myself but I have looked at them out of curiosity

    Firstly - label looks like a rip off of enhanced athletes (tony huge) range.
    which admittedly a subjective measure it does to cause my spidey senses to tingle that it's a cheap brand.

    As you said - look at the doses here.
    Per capsule the 20mg Ostarine is near the max recommended "safe" of 25mg per day
    Taking 2 capsules a day will increase risk of side effects and you may need a PCT after . However that they actually advise 1-2 capsules a day would lead me to suspect that it may be under-dosed or they are reckless as fcuk cos you know lads will take the max dose.

    The mk677 dose is fine. i can't recall much about LGD-4033.
    Mellor wrote: »
    High based on what?

    I'm guessing he means based on research and the recommended dose


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    granny_slayer
    Registered Users Posts: 404 ✭✭granny_slayer


    paw patrol wrote: »
    I've not taken sarms myself but I have looked at them out of curiosity

    Firstly - label looks like a rip off of enhanced athletes (tony huge) range.
    which admittedly a subjective measure it does to cause my spidey senses to tingle that it's a cheap brand.

    As you said - look at the doses here.
    Per capsule the 20mg Ostarine is near the max recommended "safe" of 25mg per day
    Taking 2 capsules a day will increase risk of side effects and you may need a PCT after . However that they actually advise 1-2 capsules a day would lead me to suspect that it may be under-dosed or they are reckless as fcuk cos you know lads will take the max dose.

    The mk677 dose is fine. i can't recall much about LGD-4033.



    I'm guessing he means based on research and the recommended dose


    Thanks for the reply, yes I think your spot, and another thing is it specifically states after the dosage that a PCT is not required. I cant find anyting about on the web. I wonder is the lab irish?


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    the_dowdall_fella
    Registered Users Posts: 1 ✭the_dowdall_fella


    Can any tell me where theses products are available



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    luketitz
    Registered Users Posts: 685 ✭✭✭luketitz


    I got the 'shred' stack here after doing my research, the purity certificates these guys offer helped put my mind af ease - https://www.uksarms.com/product-category/buy-sarms/

    Haven't started using it yet though, kinda having second thought after listening to the podcast linked In the thread above!



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