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All diesel fuel is not the same

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    #62
    Sittingpretty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,872 ✭✭✭Sittingpretty


    Apologies. I see you already mentioned Whitegate :)


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    #63
    KCross
    Registered Users Posts: 12,077 ✭✭✭✭KCross


    Sittingpretty wrote: »
    You know that both those stations are fuelled by fuel from either Foynes or Whitegate?

    It all comes from the same tanks no matter the brand, some might have additives and some may not but all fuel you buy in this country is ultimately from the same place.

    Well.... some of it could come from other more nefarious sources! ;)

    But I think a major Maxol and Circle K station are probably getting it from legal sources and the different additive is the reason for colour difference in this case.


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    #64
    HailSatan
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 328 ✭✭HailSatan


    KCross wrote: »
    Both brands might get their diesel from the same refinery but the additive for each brand is added when they are loading the truck at the refinery.

    So...


    All diesel fuel is not the same?


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    #65
    KCross
    Registered Users Posts: 12,077 ✭✭✭✭KCross


    HailSatan wrote: »
    So...


    All diesel fuel is not the same?

    Correct, the thread title is accurate!


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    #66
    Sittingpretty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,872 ✭✭✭Sittingpretty


    HailSatan wrote: »
    So...


    All diesel fuel is not the same?

    It is all the same.

    Some companies pay the refinery more for additives to preserve/improve fuel.


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    #67
    HailSatan
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 328 ✭✭HailSatan


    KCross wrote: »
    Correct, the thread title is accurate!

    You'd swear mikeecho had said diesel causes autism or something such was the negative reaction


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    #68
    HailSatan
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 328 ✭✭HailSatan


    Improve wrt what... Other fuels that are exactly the same?


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    #69
    pippip
    Registered Users Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭pippip


    HailSatan wrote: »
    So...


    All diesel fuel is not the same?
    Sittingpretty wrote: »
    It is all the same.

    Some companies pay the refinery more for additives to preserve/improve fuel.

    Yes.....making it not the same


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    #70
    punisher5112
    Registered Users Posts: 24,647 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Rusty tank....

    Maybe


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    #71
    josip
    Registered Users Posts: 13,662 ✭✭✭✭josip


    mikeecho wrote: »
    Here's a pic in plastic bottles.

    IMG-20190917-110812.jpg

    https://i.ibb.co/TtpL9vk/IMG-20190917-110812.jpg

    And here I have switched their positions, in case someone complains that the angle of the light was causing an issue.

    IMG-20190917-110803.jpg

    https://i.ibb.co/j579Lyv/IMG-20190917-110803.jpg


    More Vitamin B12 in the one on the left


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    #72
    Sittingpretty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,872 ✭✭✭Sittingpretty


    pippip wrote: »
    Yes.....making it not the same

    Tomayto tomato :D


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    #73
    HailSatan
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 328 ✭✭HailSatan


    josip wrote: »
    More Vitamin B12 in the one on the left

    Which left


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    #74
    Car99
    Registered Users Posts: 2,530 ✭✭✭Car99


    The one on the left shows signs of dehydration and maybe using too much berroca.


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    #75
    Kenny Logins
    Registered Users Posts: 9,061 ✭✭✭Kenny Logins


    Do we need to crowdfund a test kit here or what? :)

    https://fuelmonitrix.ie/product/diesel-test-kit/


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    #76
    ELM327
    Registered Users Posts: 21,506 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »
    All this talk of daysul and not a drop of green in sight :(


    Its red these days :D


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    #77
    josip
    Registered Users Posts: 13,662 ✭✭✭✭josip


    HailSatan wrote: »
    Which left


    My left :)


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    #78
    mikeecho
    Registered Users Posts: 5,077 ✭✭✭mikeecho


    So, a little update.

    I pulled into a 3rd brand of petrol station today (I won't be naming it at this moment in time)

    My car was fairly full so I wouldn't have needed much fuel, so I pumped about 2L into my car, and then very slowly pumped about half a litre into a clean water bottle that I had.

    All this was done with the intention of posting the colour result up here.
    (The third bottle has a sight blue tint to it so I was going to decant it into the same type of bottle as was previously used)

    Anyway, as I was slowly pumping the fuel into the bottle, I noticed a fleck of something travel, with the fuel into the bottle.

    Let's have a look








    IMG-20190919-175233.jpg




    IMG-20190919-175307.jpg

    In conclusion, Brand C is a lot closer in colour to Brand B (circle k) but it has a nice lump of black stuff in it.


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    #79
    HailSatan
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 328 ✭✭HailSatan


    I can hear wailing and gnashing of teeth already. Who shall be first to call for burning the heretic?


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    #80
    josip
    Registered Users Posts: 13,662 ✭✭✭✭josip


    How do you get diesel into a 500ml water bottle without spilling it?
    Do you carry a funnel around with you?


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    #81
    mikeecho
    Registered Users Posts: 5,077 ✭✭✭mikeecho


    josip wrote: »
    How do you get diesel into a 500ml water bottle without spilling it?
    Do you carry a funnel around with you?

    Carefully pull the trigger very lightly.


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    #82
    HailSatan
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 328 ✭✭HailSatan


    josip wrote: »
    How do you get diesel into a 500ml water bottle without spilling it?
    Do you carry a funnel around with you?

    He's a witch!


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    #83
    mikeecho
    Registered Users Posts: 5,077 ✭✭✭mikeecho


    I've banged off an email to Company HQ of "brand C" , and I'm awaiting a reply.

    I sent them pics of the fuel with lumps floating in it and the receipt.

    Let's see what they say.


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    #84
    Car99
    Registered Users Posts: 2,530 ✭✭✭Car99


    mikeecho wrote: »
    I've banged off an email to Company HQ of "brand C" , and I'm awaiting a reply.

    I sent them pics of the fuel with lumps floating in it and the receipt.

    Let's see what they say.

    They'll say the station has a rusty fuel tank.


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    #85
    pippip
    Registered Users Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭pippip


    mikeecho wrote: »
    I've banged off an email to Company HQ of "brand C" , and I'm awaiting a reply.

    I sent them pics of the fuel with lumps floating in it and the receipt.

    Let's see what they say.

    I'll pi$$ myself laughing if they come back giving out to you for not using a suitable container.


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    #86
    mikeecho
    Registered Users Posts: 5,077 ✭✭✭mikeecho


    Initial response

    Hi mikeecho,



    I have sent this email onto our fuel department and will get back to you as soon as I hear anything,

    There will also be a test carried out on the fuel,

    We did a quick test there on site and no visible dirt was found but I will get it off for further testing,

    Thank you for your feed back and I will be in contact,

    If you wish to contact me directly from Monday you can do so on 0xxxxxxxx,





    Kind regards,

    Xyz xyz

    Site Manager


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    #87
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users Posts: 73,389 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    I can’t see them admitting the fuel is dirty.


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    #88
    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users Posts: 35,738 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Colour depends on the amount of Fatty acids, tallow, Me esters , or Fatty acids, vegetable oil, Me esters that was added. The more added, the more it looks like '' new vegetable oil colour''
    The diesel with less has that greeny tint.


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    #89
    mikeecho
    Registered Users Posts: 5,077 ✭✭✭mikeecho


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    Colour depends on the amount of Fatty acids, tallow, Me esters , or Fatty acids, vegetable oil, Me esters that was added. The more added, the more it looks like '' new vegetable oil colour''
    The diesel with less has that greeny tint.

    So which diesel would be considered a better mix?
    The lighter one with the greeny tint I'm presuming.


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    #90
    mikeecho
    Registered Users Posts: 5,077 ✭✭✭mikeecho


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    I can’t see them admitting the fuel is dirty.

    I don't see that happening either.
    I'm sure they'll tell me that they have thoroughly checked the fuel and that it meets and exceeds the required standards.

    But I'll know where I won't be buying fuel.


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    #91
    Darc19
    Registered Users Posts: 3,817 ✭✭✭Darc19


    One is probably supplied from whitegate refinery
    One is probably supplied by pembokeshire refinery.

    Diesel color changes slightly during the year too depending on chemicals required to refine it.

    Google "the color of diesel fuel - well-worth products"


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