All diesel fuel is not the same

mikeecho

Today I got fuel from two well known reputable brands.
These stations are side by side, and the fuel was bought minutes apart.



https://i.ibb.co/D8dYpt8/IMG-20190916-162318.jpg

Notice the different colours


Any thoughts

colm_mcm

Different laundering process.

NIMAN

different drums?

punisher5112

Rust in tank???

Dirty fuel??

sunnysoutheast

mikeecho wrote: »

Today I got fuel from two well known reputable brands.
These stations are side by side, and the fuel was bought minutes apart.



Notice the different colours


Any thoughts

Whereabouts?

Seth Brundle

Pour some into some clear jars for us to see as the two plastic containers appear to use different plastic (the one on the right looks more dense)

893bet

The drums are clearly different. Look at the top that’s unfilled.

mikeecho

Seth Brundle wrote: »

Pour some into some clear jars for us to see as the two plastic containers appear to use different plastic (the one on the right looks more dense)

Both drums are the same.

I actually filled up 4 drums at each station.
Station 1 has darker fuel in all 4 drums, and likewise, station 2 had lighter coloured fuel.

Bought in cork, two very busy, and reputable stations.

punisher5112

Id be getting it tested....

As said put into a glass or jar and see.

mikeecho

Seth Brundle wrote: »

Pour some into some clear jars for us to see as the two plastic containers appear to use different plastic (the one on the right looks more dense)

I actually filled up 4 drums at each station.
Station 1 has darker fuel in all 4 drums, and likewise, station 2 had lighter coloured fuel.

Bought in cork, two very busy, and reputable stations.

I'll take a pic of all 8 drums tomorrow.

The colour difference isn't due to the plastic drum

mikeecho

punisher5112 wrote: »

Id be getting it tested....

As said put into a glass or jar and see.

Which one ?

And who's gonna pay

K.Flyer

Was the left drum used for Kerosene recently?

I wouldn't like to be dipped with the fuel from the left drum in my tank.

murphyebass

Put them in a glass and drink a little. Just to test the consistency.

mikeecho

K.Flyer wrote: »

Was the left drum used for Kerosene recently?

I wouldn't like to be dipped with the fuel from the left drum in my tank.

No kerosene

Toyotafanboi

893bet wrote: »

The drums are clearly different. Look at the top that’s unfilled.

Yeah, to be fair, the drum on the right looks more clouded.

mikeecho

murphyebass wrote: »

Put them in a glass and drink a little. Just to test the consistency.

I'll stick to the gin

Seth Brundle

mikeecho wrote: »

I'll take a pic of all 8 drums tomorrow.

The colour difference isn't due to the plastic drum

There is a difference in the plastic colours. It's quite obvious in your photo.
Show us the liquids with no plastic!

mikeecho

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

Yeah, to be fair, the drum on the right looks more clouded.

As I've said.. multiple drums.. 4 are dark.

FFS.. I'll go out and take a pic of all 8

K.Flyer

mikeecho wrote: »

As I've said.. multiple drums.. 4 are dark.

FFS.. I'll go out and take a pic of all 8

I'd be more curious to see samples in clear glass.
Definitely got a bit of a Kero look about it.
I wonder how revenue would look at it at a dipping check.

KCross

mikeecho wrote: »

As I've said.. multiple drums.. 4 are dark.

FFS.. I'll go out and take a pic of all 8

Forget the drums. Pour a little of each into a glass container otherwise it’s a wasted exercise.

jimmycrackcorm

mikeecho wrote: »

Both drums are the same.

Can you back that up with actual proof that they're by the same manufacturer using the same materials to produce ?

mikeecho

Ok
Bear in mind that this pic was taken with a fluorescent tube overhead.



https://i.ibb.co/Zh4sjHn/IMG-20190916-212223.jpg

Counting the drums,
Top row 1 to 4
Bottom row 5 to 8

Going left to right

1,2,5,8 =Brand A
3,4,6,7= Brand B

Ok.. there might be some slight colour difference with the plastics, but Brand A is definitely darker in colour.

godtabh

mikeecho wrote: »

Ok
Bear in mind that this pic was taken with a fluorescent tube overhead.



https://i.ibb.co/Zh4sjHn/IMG-20190916-212223.jpg

Counting the drums,
Top row 1 to 4
Bottom row 5 to 8

Going left to right

1,2,5,8 =Brand A
3,4,6,7= Brand B

Ok.. there might be some slight colour difference with the plastics, but Brand A is definitely darker in colour.

8 different pumps?

mikeecho

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

Can you back that up with actual proof that they're by the same manufacturer using the same materials to produce ?

No

mikeecho

godtabh wrote: »

8 different pumps?

No.. two different stations,
Almost 100L bought from each, from a single pump at each.
In one transaction , each time.

And bought within minutes of each other

(I have receipts to prove that 99L was bought in each station, only minutes apart)

listermint

Why would anyone go to two different station's...


Why didnt you but it all at the same place



Just for clarifications sake

punisher5112

Honest question, why 2 separate station purchases???

KCross

mikeecho wrote: »

Ok
Bear in mind that this pic was taken with a fluorescent tube overhead.



https://i.ibb.co/Zh4sjHn/IMG-20190916-212223.jpg

Counting the drums,
Top row 1 to 4
Bottom row 5 to 8

Going left to right

1,2,5,8 =Brand A
3,4,6,7= Brand B

Ok.. there might be some slight colour difference with the plastics, but Brand A is definitely darker in colour.

I see 4 different colours there. You can’t really tell anything through plastic.

There can be differences anyway with additives that different providers put in so it might all be above board so your thread title is accurate anyway!

mikeecho

punisher5112 wrote: »

Honest question, why 2 separate station purchases???

listermint wrote: »

Why would anyone go to two different station's...


Why didnt you but it all at the same place



Just for clarifications sake

Good question.

I was using two fuel cards

1 DCI and 1 Circle K

Max if 100L per day on each.

Now, thinking back, I should have just bought it all at Circle K.

But then I wouldn't have noticed a difference in fuel colour.

(.. and now you know.. one of the brand's is Circle K.)

mikeecho

KCross wrote: »

I see 4 different colours there. You can’t really tell anything through plastic.

There can be differences anyway with additives that different providers put in so it might all be above board so your thread title is accurate anyway!

4 different colours.. there is actually two colours, but the artificial light above is affecting the pic.

godtabh

mikeecho wrote: »

No.. two different stations,
Almost 100L bought from each, from a single pump at each.
In one transaction , each time.

And bought within minutes of each other

(I have receipts to prove that 99L was bought in each station, only minutes apart)

if they are from one pump in each station they should be the same colour shouldn't they? only variable is the containers.

mikeecho

I'll put some into glass jars tomorrow.

The jars probably won't be identical.

Now .. which two drums do you want me to compare.

Allinall

What are you using the diesel for?

Why are you bothered unless you see a difference in performance?

K.Flyer

mikeecho wrote: »

I'll put some into glass jars tomorrow.

The jars probably won't be identical.

Now .. which two drums do you want me to compare.

To keep the experiment consistent, use the two original drums in the first picture.

wing52

Do motor factors not have detector kits?

Try one and see if any results.

mikeecho

K.Flyer wrote: »

To keep the experiment consistent, use the two original drums in the first picture.

I can do that,

but I'm sure some clown on here, will want documented video proof with an independent observer from KPMG and an official from the Guinness Book of Records present.

Edit..
I'll use plastic 500ml water bottles.

Don't think I have any empty glass jars.


There is a visible difference between the colour of fuel from both stations.

One is a lot darker than the other.
It's probably just due to additives, but the stations are side by side, and as they are in cork, I'd imagine that both are supplied by Whitegate refinery.

McCrack

mikeecho wrote: »

I can do that,

but I'm sure some clown on here, will want documented video proof with an independent observer from KPMG and an official from the Guinness Book of Records present.

Well if you want to make up some half arsed visual experiment to suit your initial agenda at least have the containers the same clear glass

mikeecho

McCrack wrote: »

Well if you want to make up some half arsed visual experiment to suit your initial agenda at least have the containers the same clear glass

What's my agenda ????

McCrack

mikeecho wrote: »

What's my agenda ????

Clue in the thread title

mikeecho

Right.. so what do you want me to do, to show the difference in fuel colour.

Keyboard warriors will always find fault with something.
I've no intention of spending money to show what I already know.

I'll put fuel from brand A into one plastic bottle, and ditto with brand B

I'll take a pic tomorrow.

K.Flyer

McCrack wrote: »

Clue in the thread title

Well to be honest I don't believe all fuels are the same. There are certain brands that my engine definitely runs better with.

Steve

If they were pee samples, the one on the left is in trouble.

Show them in glass containers to compare.

pburns

Quite hostile, defensive response to OP.
Nobody wants to believe diesel might be variable? Or the cheaper stuff might be dodgy?

I never buy on price (because variability between pumps makes a few cents diffence futile). It's hard to judge quality tho. I used to think Applegreen safe. Now I'd avoid...

Steve

pburns wrote: »

Quite hostile, defensive response to OP.
Nobody wants to believe diesel might be variable? Or the cheaper stuff might be dodgy?

I never buy on price (because variability between pumps makes a few cents diffence futile). It's hard to judge quality tho. I used to think Applegreen safe. Now I'd avoid...

Wait, what? any substance to that claim?

893bet

Mis read. Carry on.

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime

All this talk of daysul and not a drop of green in sight

Car99

Use two jam clear jars for your comparison today. Eat a sliced pan worth of toast smothered in jam with your tae in the morning if you have to.

dodzy

mikeecho wrote: »

Right.. so what do you want me to do, to show the difference in fuel colour.

Keyboard warriors will always find fault with something.
I've no intention of spending money to show what I already know.

I'll put fuel from brand A into one plastic bottle, and ditto with brand B

I'll take a pic tomorrow.

FFS, just do what you were asked. You come on with a question and threw up a picture of a side by side sample in 2 containers that were obviously constructed with different material, then you get all bitchy when questioned. Surely 2 clear jars, side by side, with samples from your first pic is not a monumental request?

Toyotafanboi

It'd take too long to find a single jam jar with clouded glass for the comparison.

HailSatan

McCrack wrote: »

Well if you want to make up some half arsed visual experiment to suit your initial agenda at least have the containers the same clear glass

Me


Ow

Skin in the game?

HailSatan

pburns wrote: »

Quite hostile, defensive response to OP.

Must have hit a nerve here