Great Railway Journeys on CIE

Grandeeod · 15-02-2017 9:40pm

Quackster wrote: »

Despite the fact I don't agree with him (some basic print timetables should be available) I can see where he's coming from and I really don't see how you can constructively call his post rubbish.

It's rubbish because there is a certain arrogance expressed regarding smart phones and technology Vs a simple printed timetable. Irish Rail stations still display printed timetables on a lot of their platforms with an electronic display. There is also an assumption that all generations using the service have access to technology or can somehow scramble through it by doing things like "taking a pic of the relevant web page". You couldn't get a more rubbish post.

Isambard · 15-02-2017 10:45pm

i believe a large slice of the population are not able to use anything other than a printed timetable either because they don't have the technology or are unable to use it, or maybe plain just don't trust anything short of it. I personally know a lady with an iphone5 who is unable to board a train without needing to ask at least a couple of rail employees. She is not unique and the days of paper timetables being a thing of the past have not even remotely arrived.

L1011 · 16-02-2017 8:58am

My mother *acts* like that, but it's deliberate neo luddism in her case. Can use far more complicated technology if she wants to. She still bemoans the loss of petrol pump attendants!

exaisle · 17-02-2017 10:16am

Del.Monte wrote: »

Yes, yes, but even if everyone wanted to exclusively view timetables online it is idiocy on the part of CIE not to have a pocket sized timetable in which to advertise all their services. Anyway, your post is rubbish.

Everybody is entitled to their opinion...

My initial point was that you're entirely capable of using electronic technology when it suits you....to go on boards.ie to whinge about the absence of timetables, but you feel unable to use that same technology to access the information in the timetables...

You think my post was rubbish? Pot...kettle....

roundymac · 17-02-2017 10:52am

L1011 wrote: »

My mother *acts* like that, but it's deliberate neo luddism in her case. Can use far more complicated technology if she wants to. She still bemoans the loss of petrol pump attendants!

As do I.

end of the road · 17-02-2017 2:21pm

exaisle wrote: »

Everybody is entitled to their opinion...

My initial point was that you're entirely capable of using electronic technology when it suits you....to go on boards.ie to whinge about the absence of timetables, but you feel unable to use that same technology to access the information in the timetables...

You think my post was rubbish? Pot...kettle....

none of that matters. the information should be availible in a easy to access format IE a booklet. no excuses. people want information there and then and in a format they can simply access. they do not have the time to waste clicking on to a website, then trying to find the information that is buried deep in the site because IE'S website is a joke.

exaisle · 17-02-2017 4:09pm

end of the road wrote: »

none of that matters. the information should be availible in a easy to access format IE a booklet. no excuses. people want information there and then and in a format they can simply access. they do not have the time to waste clicking on to a website, then trying to find the information that is buried deep in the site because IE'S website is a joke.

Easy to access for whom? The information is as easy to access online as it is to find in a printed timetable to anybody who is (a) computer literate and (b) print literate.

Printing stuff on paper that's going to be out of date within a year and which will end up at worst in landfill or at best a recycle centre is a waste of resources.

However, isn't there a certain irony in somebody GOING ONLINE to complain about the absence of a printed timetable, the information from which could have been found by GOING ONLINE!

end of the road · 17-02-2017 4:43pm

exaisle wrote: »

Easy to access for whom? The information is as easy to access online as it is to find in a printed timetable to anybody who is (a) computer literate and (b) print literate.

Printing stuff on paper that's going to be out of date within a year and which will end up at worst in landfill or at best a recycle centre is a waste of resources.

However, isn't there a certain irony in somebody GOING ONLINE to complain about the absence of a printed timetable, the information from which could have been found by GOING ONLINE!

no it isn't. a booklet availible at stations that one can walk up and look in or even take home is a hell of a lot easier to access then a website which one has to open up their phone/computer, get on to the internet and log into the website. when at the station people have better things to do then trying to look through a website for information, they want it there and then so they can get to their train. if you use the railway at all you will know this. printing stuff on paper which is being done anyway is not a waste of resources. it can be done by 1 member of staff. as a huge user and supporter of technology, i'm telling you you are wrong your posts are just making excuses for incompetents and failure at the most basic of levels. IE provision of easy and quick to access information.

Hilly Bill · 18-02-2017 2:15am

Del.Monte wrote: »

Yes, yes, but even if everyone wanted to exclusively view timetables online it is idiocy on the part of CIE not to have a pocket sized timetable in which to advertise all their services. Anyway, your post is rubbish.

Pick a route and you can get a paper one for it.

Hilly Bill · 18-02-2017 2:31am

Del.Monte wrote: »

Traveled to Bray and back again on Sunday - uneventful trip in both directions. However, the onboard announcements really grind my gears. No less than 14 in each direction if you count the bilingual nature of them and they are completely OTT. I suppose I should be grateful that they aren't in Polish - yet!

However, it is at Bray that my complaint is this time. On arriving back at the station for the evening train I was witness to an altercation between two very large Eastern European security men and a piece of pond life that had possibly been a human at some point. Eventually he was 'persuaded' to leave the premises but no sign of the Gardai and he was free to molest anybody unfortunate enough to encounter him. The security men's approach was a bit like "Netwatch" (you in the blue hoodie) making Ireland a safer place or just moving the problem on.

I needn't have worried as the unwell individual made a bee line for the station car park where he broke into a car and the security men returned to the scene and sat on him until the Gardai finally arrived. Bray station is not a place to linger! Incidentally, would it not be possible for CIE to get in a pest controller to remove/liquidate the pigeons within the station? I'll do it for them - if they pay me.

They have got someone it to sort the pigeons out.

Hilly Bill · 18-02-2017 2:37am

Infini2 wrote: »

Or management actually providing the staff the tools for that tbh...... C_C

Realisticaly they might've just stopped printing them because of cost savings as much as it is annoying they keep the timetables up on the wall at least for information as well as online to be printed off. Such is the way things have gone.

They had thousands of timetables last year but they flew out. People taking hand full of them because they were free, some taking one each time they past because they left the other at home. you need good eyesight for the new ones that are out but once they are gone they are gone.

Hilly Bill · 18-02-2017 2:42am

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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But Rosslare europort is not a city.

Fred Swanson · 18-02-2017 2:44am

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end of the road · 18-02-2017 3:21am

Hilly Bill wrote: »

But Rosslare europort is not a city.

true, it isn't. but it isn't a suburban route either, and is branded an intercity route, just like IE'S pets westport and tralee which aren't cities either. it is a long distance route with a journey time of 3 hours, and the 2900s are only suitable for short distance high capacity suburban duties and their short journeys. the same as the 22000s are not suitable for suburban journeys as their layout is not suited to large crowds and they are ridiculously slow off the mark on those services as witnessed many times by myself.

Del.Monte · 18-02-2017 9:45am

Hilly Bill wrote: »

Pick a route and you can get a paper one for it.

Sure you can. :rolleyes:

Enniscorthy rarely has any timetables - which I doubt is a unique occurrence - and when it does they are the small single route ones i.e the rest of the rail system might as well not exist. Why can CIE not revert to a booklet style version and charge for it?

I've had all this out with Dick Fearn et al for years and despite all sorts of excuses, promises and so forth, nothing changes. I even suggested back in the day when they still had a printed timetable that they should advertise CIE's other services - Fastrack, Restaurant na Mara etc. but in a company where the staff and management have no other goal than to collect the lump, golden handshake and clock, what can you expect.

exaisle · 18-02-2017 5:26pm

end of the road wrote: »

no it isn't. a booklet availible at stations that one can walk up and look in or even take home is a hell of a lot easier to access then a website which one has to open up their phone/computer, get on to the internet and log into the website. when at the station people have better things to do then trying to look through a website for information, they want it there and then so they can get to their train. if you use the railway at all you will know this. printing stuff on paper which is being done anyway is not a waste of resources. it can be done by 1 member of staff. as a huge user and supporter of technology, i'm telling you you are wrong your posts are just making excuses for incompetents and failure at the most basic of levels. IE provision of easy and quick to access information.

What is the problem with accessing the information online? It's the 21st Century, folks....

You'd hope that people wouldn't just turn up at a station hoping a train will turn up...and then consult the timetable... You look up the timetable before you leave for the station in order to get there in good time.
You paint a picture of confused bodies milling around platforms with their head stuck in their printed timetable...well that simply doesn't happen. Main station have large departure and arrival signs and smaller ones have poster sized route schedules.
If people need the comfort of paper, they can go print the relevant route timetable at their own expense. The information is there online and easily accessible.

Don't come here whinging about the lack of timetable information when you can access it on the machine you're already using.

n97 mini · 18-02-2017 5:47pm

God help tourists arriving here with no/expensive data roaming and no printer. Even proper timetables stuck on the walls of every station would be a start.

end of the road · 18-02-2017 6:03pm

exaisle wrote: »

What is the problem with accessing the information online? It's the 21st Century, folks....

You'd hope that people wouldn't just turn up at a station hoping a train will turn up...and then consult the timetable... You look up the timetable before you leave for the station in order to get there in good time.
You paint a picture of confused bodies milling around platforms with their head stuck in their printed timetable...well that simply doesn't happen. Main station have large departure and arrival signs and smaller ones have poster sized route schedules.
If people need the comfort of paper, they can go print the relevant route timetable at their own expense. The information is there online and easily accessible.

Don't come here whinging about the lack of timetable information when you can access it on the machine you're already using.

what century it is is irrelevant and means jot. more making excuses for failure and incompetents. accessing a website takes time which people at a railway station haven't got, and have better things to do then trying to access it. an easily availible booklet that one can simply go over and pick up and get the information they want is quick, non time consuming and is common sense. you look up the timetable when you can, in a lot of cases that will be at the train station. that doesn't mean one simply turns up to the station and hopes a train turns up as you suggest (again if you use the railway you will know this)
i paint a picture of people having to take more time then necessary to access information which in normal countries is easy and quickly accessible and availible. it being online isn't easy accessible or quickly availible, as you actually have to open up your computer and or phone and click on to a website and then actually find what you are looking for. when someone who is a supporter of technology and uses it a lot tells you that you are wrong, you are. you have no argument in support of these most basic of failures i'm afraid.

Quackster · 18-02-2017 6:55pm

n97 mini wrote: »

God help tourists arriving here with no/expensive data roaming and no printer. Even proper timetables stuck on the walls of every station would be a start.

I, for one, never need to go hunting for timetable booklets when using rail in other countries. But I regularly make good use of the timetable posters in stations so if IE doesn't have them in all its stations (I only know they're in the stations I use), that would be quite unforgivable.

n97 mini · 18-02-2017 7:05pm

Quackster wrote: »

I, for one, never need to go hunting for timetable booklets when using rail in other countries. But I regularly make good use of the timetable posters in stations so if IE doesn't have them in all its stations (I only know they're in the stations I use), that would be quite unforgivable.

Same here with posters. None of the non terminus stations on the Maynooth line have had poster timetables for 10 years. God knows how Michael Portillo got around. He walked the wrong way to exit Leixlip Convey station!

exaisle · 18-02-2017 9:47pm

Oh...I'm all in favour of timetable posters...and the lack of them at all stations is unforgivable...

At least Michael Portillo in his flourescent jacket was visible... ;-)

n97 mini · 18-02-2017 10:49pm

exaisle wrote: »

At least Michael Portillo in his flourescent jacket was visible... ;-)

If a little lost...

Del.Monte · 18-04-2017 10:54am

Yesterday I had to pay a very brief visit to Arklow - not something to be recommended to the tourist. A town in terminal decline and even worse than my own hometown, if that be possible.

It's a rare thing to be able to say that the Irish Rail station in a town is the highpoint of one's visit, but in truth it was. The staff really make an effort to have the place looking its best. Well tended flowerbeds, an interesting collection of exterior artefacts and an exceptional display of railway interest in the booking office.

However, that is where it ends: the station building resembles a Cold War bunker with grills on every window and obviously uninhabited. Given the housing crisis could CIE really not find a deserving tenant?

Then there's the welcoming poster display - a feature common to all CIE stations it seems, but total overkill in my opinion . The only thing missing is the word Verboten slapped up everywhere!

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Whatever happened to Happy Holidays and CIE extolling people to take the train to exotic destinations?

Fred Swanson · 18-04-2017 11:07am

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Del.Monte · 08-05-2017 9:29am

Yet another trip to and from Connolly yesterday - uneventful and scenic, at least until entry into the graffiti zone north of Greystones.

However, at Bray in the Up direction the train was engulfed by seaside daytrippers and there was standing room only throughout the train. On the return leg the train was again engulfed - this time by French school students who got on in Tara Street. Both incidents did nothing to contribute to the 'inter-city' experience that the train should provide. In the Up direction this congestion could be reduced by having Bray as a 'set-down' stop only and possibly Dun Laoghaire too. In the Down direction Tara Street should be removed completely as a stop.

Apart from the scenery, the only redeeming feature of the trip was a very friendly/helpful ticket checker - and the sighting of a fox near Gorey.

I'm going to break-out soon and hit some really exotic locations which I will post here if I'm not site banned in the meantime.

Fred Swanson · 08-05-2017 10:01am

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Del.Monte · 08-05-2017 11:00am

I was one of those 'pesky peasants' when I lived in Bray and if the facility is there it will be used. In d'olden days the Rosslare departed from Platform.1. in Connolly and only those in the know boarded it there and then it reversed out before calling at Platform.5. - would be even easier today with railcar operation.

Bray needs to be set-down only in the Up direction - easily done by serving the Down platform and having the next northbound DART sitting at the Up platform. This would discourage most if not all 'pesky peasants'. Dun Laoghaire is more problematic but wouldn't be if SDO had been fitted to the 22000s. Tara Street needs eliminating in both directions.

L1011 · 09-05-2017 8:00am

As a picky peasant, I'm glad my line isn't signalled for wrong side running... Extra 40-60 minutes a day between worse times and stopping trains would put me back in the car

loyatemu · 09-05-2017 12:04pm

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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I've literally never heard anyone call it the "fast dart" - it's only 5 mins faster to Bray anyway (used to be more when it had better headway and didn't stop in DL).

People will get on the first train that turns up going to their station. Certainly on the evening Wexford services the majority of passengers getting on in the City Centre are going to DL, Bray and Greystones. They're pseudo-commuter services & the service as a whole is probably only viable as it provides some extra rush hour capacity to those stations. If you cut them completely it would be more comfortable for people going further south because the train would be half empty.

Banjoxed · 09-05-2017 1:29pm

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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:D

I'm nabbing that as my signature!

Stephen15 · 09-05-2017 1:45pm

Fred Swanson wrote: »

The train should have no stops between Bray and Connolly.

You often here the pesky peasants of Bray describe the Rosslare train as the "fast Dart" there purely for their convenience.

It has been suggested many times that certain trains should be set down only/pick up only at certain stops but this has offended the proletariat who think they should have private express services.

Make them pay extra to use the Rosslare service, do not have leap cards valid on the service and have ticket checks between CC and Bray. The Rosslare is intercity and I believe there should be mandatory seat reservations on these services.

LXFlyer · 09-05-2017 2:14pm

Due to the half hourly DART service to Greystones, there are only two paths in each hour available for a Rosslare train to travel between Bray and Greystones, each of which must be directly behind a DART.

There is no other way of scheduling it.

Therefore stopping at Tara Street, Pearse and Dun Laoghaire adds no extra time to the journey.

People need to accept the reality that since the M11 was developed and both Bus Eireann and Wexford Bus improved their offerings on the route using the motorway, with the best will in the world the railway will always now play second fiddle to them.

The diversion inland via Rathdrum and the fact that they have to share track space with the DART, with no scope for looping facilities along that section of route, means that the Rosslare line cannot compete on journey times with the bus alternatives for points south of Wicklow.

It is at this point, as another poster commented, a pseudo-commuter service - one look at the weekday timetable will tell you that. That's where the services are focussed.

The best future for the line is for it to develop the commuter potential, and for it to be marketed as a tourist route. The notion that it is a strategically important Intercity service has I'm afraid gone, given the competition from the motorway. Short of building a brand new rail alignment, that isn't going to change.

end of the road · 09-05-2017 2:33pm

if i was a betting man i'd bet the whole lot could be re-scheduled and sorted out to make things a bit better for all if the will was there to do it. i wonder would it be done if it was heuston services in the same situation.
wexford bus and the m11 are competition but that is no excuse for the failings of the railway, which are on IE. as a user of the service for years the service was a lot faster when it didn't stop between bray and connolly. dart/wexford bus/m11 are not an excuse for anything in my book apart from improving the service in any way that can be done to attract business. but then again seeing as nobody is bothered then why would anyone who can make things happen bother either.

LXFlyer · 09-05-2017 2:36pm

end of the road wrote: »

if i was a betting man i'd bet the whole lot could be re-scheduled and sorted out to make things a bit better for all if the will was there to do it. i wonder would it be done if it was heuston services in the same situation.
wexford bus and the m11 are competition but that is no excuse for the failings of the railway, which are on IE. as a user of the service for years the service was a lot faster when it didn't stop between bray and connolly. dart/wexford bus/m11 are not an excuse for anything in my book apart from improving the service in any way that can be done to attract business. but then again seeing as nobody is bothered then why would anyone who can make things happen bother either.

Again, the 30 minute DART frequency to/from Greystones is the game changer, along with the core 15 minute DART frequency between Bray and Howth Junction.

It is not physically possible to schedule the Rosslare services any faster between Greystones and Connolly - you can bet all you like, but the Intercity has to follow a DART - that's the only way it can be done. The stops between Bray and Connolly make no difference to the overall journey time as a result.

The line out of Heuston has considerably more space around it and that facilitated the four tracking - there is no space between Connolly and Bray for anything similar.

end of the road · 09-05-2017 2:44pm

loyatemu wrote: »

I've literally never heard anyone call it the "fast dart" - it's only 5 mins faster to Bray anyway (used to be more when it had better headway and didn't stop in DL).

People will get on the first train that turns up going to their station. Certainly on the evening Wexford services the majority of passengers getting on in the City Centre are going to DL, Bray and Greystones. They're pseudo-commuter services & the service as a whole is probably only viable as it provides some extra rush hour capacity to those stations. If you cut them completely it would be more comfortable for people going further south because the train would be half empty.

the first and second evening services are decently used south of the suburban area so wouldn't be "half empty" the late service can be variable but then again it always was since the severe downgrading in 2004 of journey times and onboard environment and the subsiquent shift to car and bus which weren't any better then the rail offering for years. even now as we all know (all though it's now across the board) the onboard environment has lots of room to improve.

loyatemu · 09-05-2017 2:54pm

end of the road wrote: »

the first and second evening services are decently used south of the suburban area so wouldn't be "half empty" the late service can be variable but then again it always was since the severe downgrading in 2004 of journey times and onboard environment and the subsiquent shift to car and bus which weren't any better then the rail offering for years. even now as we all know (all though it's now across the board) the onboard environment has lots of room to improve.

I use the 1735 ex-Connolly every day, which is the busiest Wexford service in the evening. It is half empty when I get off in Greystones, and I'd say half of the remaining passengers disembark at Wicklow.

The Dart services either side of it are jammed solid so if you threw commuters off the IC you'd just be creating problems elsewhere.

end of the road · 09-05-2017 3:21pm

loyatemu wrote: »

I use the 1735 ex-Connolly every day, which is the busiest Wexford service in the evening. It is half empty when I get off in Greystones, and I'd say half of the remaining passengers disembark at Wicklow.

i also use that service from time to time or the 1 before and have done so for years and there would be good loadings south as people do get on and off from stations south of greystones. so not half empty over all.

loyatemu wrote: »

The Dart services either side of it are jammed solid so if you threw commuters off the IC you'd just be creating problems elsewhere.

no you wouldn't. you would be putting people back on the services they should be using and freeing up space to attract more patronage (if the railway did things properly that is)

it's up to IE to insure it has capacity on it's services. it can't seem to manage that in terms of connolly at least.

Del.Monte · 25-09-2017 8:52pm

Today I undertook a great bus journey (by Wexford Bus) thanks to CIE removing its Enniscorthy/Waterford rail service followed by the removal of their direct bus service.

A tedious journey involving actual bus travel in each direction of one and a half hours (3 hours in total) and about another three hours hanging about waiting for connections. Not to be undertaken lightly but it had to be done. €16 for a monthly return by Wexford Bus - cheaper than BE - I think and staff more friendly and obliging.

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Highpoints of the trip included a tin of coke in Waterford, a photograph of the former Ardree Hotel (looking a lot better these days) and a chat with a young lad on the bus who I advised to emigrate as soon as he finishes college.

BoatMad · 25-09-2017 9:00pm

end of the road wrote: »

the first and second evening services are decently used south of the suburban area so wouldn't be "half empty" the late service can be variable but then again it always was since the severe downgrading in 2004 of journey times and onboard environment and the subsiquent shift to car and bus which weren't any better then the rail offering for years. even now as we all know (all though it's now across the board) the onboard environment has lots of room to improve.

correct , the shift from MK3 to railcars was all justified by cost saving, but you can't cost save a business into profit, you actually have to " make sales " i.e. provide something the customer wants

IE have forgotten that basic tenant , the service runs for its internal justification not its customers

Grandeeod · 25-09-2017 9:06pm

Del.Monte wrote: »

Today I undertook a great bus journey (by Wexford Bus) thanks to CIE removing its Enniscorthy/Waterford rail service followed by the removal of their direct bus service.

A tedious journey involving actual bus travel in each direction of one and a half hours (3 hours in total) and about another three hours hanging about waiting for connections. Not to be undertaken lightly but it had to be done. €16 for a monthly return by Wexford Bus - cheaper than BE - I think and staff more friendly and obliging.

Highpoints of the trip included a tin of coke in Waterford, a photograph of the former Ardree Hotel (looking a lot better these days) and a chat with a young lad on the bus who I advised to emigrate as soon as he finishes college.

Delighted to see you slumming it on a bus.:D

I only remember that hotel when it was a Jury's joint. Back then it was all coke and hookers.:eek:

On a serious note, you were quite right to advise the young lad to emigrate.

BoatMad · 25-09-2017 9:12pm

I only remember that hotel when it was a Jury's joint. Back then it was all coke and hookers.

its planned to be renovated and reopened

Fred Swanson · 25-09-2017 9:13pm

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tabbey · 25-09-2017 10:39pm

BoatMad wrote: »

its planned to be renovated and reopened

I stayed there about 30 years ago, when it was quite plush. Some years ago I was shocked at how shabby it had become when I spent a night on spec.

It has now been a blot on the landscape for several years, a shame as it is in a commanding position, even if it does not have a good view of the railway (or should that now be called a siding, to Belview).

BoatMad · 25-09-2017 10:42pm

r should that now be called a siding, to Belview

It has a good view of Waterford Halt too !!!!

tabbey · 25-09-2017 11:03pm

BoatMad wrote: »

It has a good view of Waterford Halt too !!!!

That would be from the corridor side I suppose. When I stayed I think all the bedrooms faced east.

tabbey · 25-09-2017 11:22pm

BoatMad wrote: »

Waterford Halt!

You have hit the nail on the head!

Fifty years ago Waterford had eight platforms, platforms 1&2 were lifted for car parking, then there were six. 7&8 went the same way at the west end of the station, 3&4 were closed after the rockslide, although the platform track remains as the Belview siding. In spite of the latter, platform 6 is also trackless, probably because 5 was extended.

Such a radical contraction is phenomenal. The buffet has also long gone, although the shop does good business for much of the day.

The real question is what activity goes on in the offices on the upper floors of the 1967 building. At that time there was freight, parcel traffic as well as paper tickets, Edmondson tickets etc, all needing accounting and so forth. Today there is only passenger traffic with tickets largely issued by machine.

Fred Swanson · 25-09-2017 11:27pm

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Del.Monte · 23-11-2017 10:03pm

Back to my pet hate - timetables.

Below are the current Wexford Bus and IE (Connolly/Rosslare) timetables.

The Wexford bus timetable is a folded A4, glossy job set out clearly and easy to read, and the IE one is a cheap, poorly designed, bilingual, double-sided effort.

The Wexford Bus leaflet has their connecting services too unlike IE's which ignores Bus Eireann's connections to Waterford now that IE have axed their service.

The IE one doesn't even clearly announce what route it's for, and guess which one is not available in local hotels, visitor attractions or even the tourist office?

L1011 · 24-11-2017 1:26am

Realistically, paper timetables are used by an extremely small number of people from a few specific cohorts at this stage. There is a reason airlines stopped doing them - as have most private bus operators.

There are far more pressing issues with Irish Rail and of the potential problems I wouldn't see paper timetables as being worth a second of effort.

end of the road · 24-11-2017 2:13am

when a smallish bus operator is putting in some effort, there is no excuse for a large organisation like irish rail not to put in some effort.
a radical idea would be to deal with the big and small issues at the same time, most people after all are capible of solving multiple issues (well, maybe we are a minority in ireland in that regard)

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