Has politics.ie closed down ?

political analyst · 28-11-2018 4:12pm

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

P.ie has been down since yesterday for me. Anyone else?

Same here!

political analyst · 28-11-2018 4:13pm

Seriously, does politics.ie not have a firewall to keep-out computer viruses?

Outlaw Pete · 28-11-2018 4:17pm

This post hasn't been deleted.

Yer Da sells Avon · 28-11-2018 6:18pm

political analyst wrote: »

Seriously, does politics.ie not have a firewall to keep-out computer viruses?

It's more than a firewall that site needs. Makes AH look sane, almost.

JohnnyFlash · 28-11-2018 8:14pm

A cesspit of a site. It used to be grand in its time, and had politicians, insiders, and hacks who posted there.

Now it's full of proper loopers. A collection of bone-headed far right reactionaries arguing against deluded communists talking about reappraising Stalin and our pressing need for a 32 county socialist republic. Angry little men with bleak lives is my image of the typical poster. The thing they fail to realise is how similar they actually are. Most of them grew up in a society that balanced progressive taxation with an open market economy. And they really don't understand how lucky they are to have been born in such a place.

It would be no lose if it never came back up.

backspin. · 28-11-2018 8:27pm

Is mercurial still over there, utterly relentless poster. If he is involved in a thread his will be every 2nd post for hundreds of pages.

end of the road · 28-11-2018 8:53pm

backspin. wrote: »

Is mercurial still over there, utterly relentless poster. If he is involved in a thread his will be every 2nd post for hundreds of pages.

he is, he's a mod now i think.

Loafing Oaf · 28-11-2018 9:14pm

political analyst wrote: »

Seriously, does politics.ie not have a firewall to keep-out computer viruses?

I thought they were supposed to have had a massive overhaul a few months ago that sorted all their tech issues.

_Kaiser_ · 28-11-2018 9:20pm

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

This post hasn't been deleted.

Valid point though. Why not just delete the entire post rather than just the content. It makes even less sense to edit the user's post but not the reply too.

An Ciarraioch · 15-02-2019 5:02pm

Has reportedly been hacked - when you type in the URL, comes up as "Account Suspended"?

https://www.politics.ie/cgi-sys/suspendedpage.cgi

is_that_so · 15-02-2019 5:06pm

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

I thought they were supposed to have had a massive overhaul a few months ago that sorted all their tech issues.

Yeah they did and then got into some actual moderation, which seemed popular. Has gone downhill though and those who can't hack it there wander off to politicsworld or something.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 15-02-2019 5:09pm

Total amateur hour over there, every month the site is down or getting hacked.

Bout time to wind it up anyway. It's just the same 10 people arguing relentlessly with each other.

is_that_so · 15-02-2019 5:12pm

end of the road wrote: »

at antigravity2.

there are definitely mods on p.ie . unlike boards there is no title under their username to identify them though.

In the upgrade that changed and in recent times you could see it. Not sure whether it was a policy thing or the software.

15-02-2019 5:50pm

Ah it was an amazing site back in its day. Its founder, David Cochrane, now works for the IT, so I suppose he has bigger fish to fry.

It made our politics forum here look like amateur-hour, but now the roles have reversed. I got into all kinds of mad arguments there when I was 18 and at my peak communist, with people who actually knew what they were talking about. Sad to see what's happened to it. I think the whole forum format is in trouble, which is a very great pity.

Muahahaha · 15-02-2019 10:01pm

Once Cochrane quit running it the lunatics took over the asylum. Tis a shame as it was a good site in its day.

Harry Palmr · 15-02-2019 10:12pm

Not sure anyone should be hoping P.ie is buried - it can only mean an influx of headbangers to boards.

Loafing Oaf · 15-02-2019 10:16pm

is_that_so wrote: »

Yeah they did and then got into some actual moderation, which seemed popular. Has gone downhill though and those who can't hack it there wander off to politicsworld or something.

I can see why there would be ongoing issues over moderation on a politics discussion site, but I'm surprised the tech problems seem so hard to overcome on what is after all just a discussion forum...

Del.Monte · 15-02-2019 10:19pm

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Not sure anyone should be hoping P.ie is buried - it can only mean an influx of headbangers to boards.

Are they we not here already?

Hotblack Desiato · 15-02-2019 10:38pm

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Re MCD - boards.ie had two run ins with them, the first in 2005 when a diabetic and her partner who both posted here often enough were accused of trying to smuggle in drugs, presumable heroin as it was insulin!

MCD later arranged for them to attend a Coldplay concert by way of compensation for the inconvenience.

As if they hadn't suffered enough.

Odhinn · 15-02-2019 10:40pm

Muahahaha wrote: »

Once Cochrane quit running it the lunatics took over the asylum. Tis a shame as it was a good site in its day.

Cochrane was a man fine with Jewish conspiracy theories but would wield the ban hammer if some one tried to bypass the "swear filter". No loss.

Ulysses Gaze · 15-02-2019 10:42pm

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Not sure anyone should be hoping P.ie is buried - it can only mean an influx of headbangers to boards.

Most of them are probably here already.

kuntboy · 16-02-2019 4:40am

It was a lot better than the ultra-liberal virtue signalling ****hole that this place has become

rgossip30 · 16-02-2019 5:45am

?

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

Most of them are probably here already.

No there is politicairish and irishpolitics online less moderation the standard is better .

An Ciarraioch · 16-02-2019 10:04am

kuntboy wrote: »

It was a lot better than the ultra-liberal virtue signalling ****hole that this place has become

After Hours?

politics.irish · 16-02-2019 2:25pm

Politics.ie seems to be gone again

JohnnyFlash · 16-02-2019 2:29pm

Load of nutjobs on that site. There was a Stalinist posting there for example.

Muahahaha · 16-02-2019 4:51pm

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Re MCD - boards.ie had two run ins with them, the first in 2005 when a diabetic and her partner who both posted here often enough were accused of trying to smuggle in drugs, presumable heroin as it was insulin!

http://janet.ie/opps/

http://www.mulley.net/2006/09/03/more-mcd-woes-boardsie-users-biting-back/

I think they were just itching to take their revenge and the 2006
Oxygen debacle gave them the opportunity to have a go at boards. The wiki entry for the festival that year has a whole section on it.

I was at that Oxegen festival in 2006 and it was indeed carnage inside the campsites. Fights breaking out everywhere, people burning other peoples tents, even at one stage a gang of lads where shaking the sh1t out of scaffolding that a security guard was standing up on. It was the year scrotes and scumbags took over the Oxegen festival and after that it got a reputation it couldn't shake. The posts about it here on boards were on the money but MCD didn't want the truth to come out so fired off legal threats of suing for defamation.

Many people who had been going to Oxegen for years then switched to the Electric Picnic and the rest is history. Ironically the bands who played the EP were not all that big and the ticket prices were even higher than Oxegen. By doing it this way it kept the scrotes and scummers away as they wouldn't pay that kind of money.

Yer Da sells Avon · 16-02-2019 5:15pm

kuntboy wrote: »

It was a lot better than the ultra-liberal virtue signalling ****hole that this place has become

Amazing. How far to the right do you have to be to view After Hours as 'ultra-liberal'?

Mad_maxx · 16-02-2019 6:22pm

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Load of nutjobs on that site. There was a Stalinist posting there for example.

Several hardcore orange men as well, it's generally populated by centre right posters,haven't looked at it in a long time

jmcc · 16-02-2019 8:08pm

The site was hacked and there were indications that it had been so for some time. On 14th February, the whole directory structure of the site, including what may have been a backup of the database when it was transferred from Irish hosting to US hosting, could be accessed with a web browser. It remained in that state for hours before the site was taken offline. Ironically, none of the Irish "technology" journalists seem to have noticed as they probably didn't get the press release. There were tens of thousands of accounts on the site but many of them would have been spam accounts as the site was set up in 2003 and at one stage, a lot of politicians posted openly on it. It was a major, and perhaps fatal, data breach.

Regards...jmcc

16-02-2019 9:03pm

The Russians?

SEPT 23 1989 · 16-02-2019 9:12pm

jmcc wrote: »

The site was hacked and there were indications that it had been so for some time. On 14th February, the whole directory structure of the site, including what may have been a backup of the database when it was transferred from Irish hosting to US hosting, could be accessed with a web browser. It remained in that state for hours before the site was taken offline. Ironically, none of the Irish "technology" journalists seem to have noticed as they probably didn't get the press release. There were tens of thousands of accounts on the site but many of them would have been spam accounts as the site was set up in 2003 and at one stage, a lot of politicians posted openly on it. It was a major, and perhaps fatal, data breach.

Regards...jmcc

Is The Field Marshall safe?

Plenty of room for him on Boards

jmcc · 16-02-2019 9:16pm

Topgear on Dave wrote: »

The Russians?

That would require a Special Counsel Investigation and a documentary by CNN.

Regards...jmcc

jmcc · 16-02-2019 9:18pm

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Is The Field Marshall safe?

Plenty of room for him on Boards

He is busy invading other territories. It would be fun watching the heads explode if he turned up on Boards.

Regards...jmcc

pjohnson · 16-02-2019 9:23pm

kuntboy wrote: »

It was a lot better than the ultra-liberal virtue signalling ****hole that this place has become

This is hilarious :pac:

chinwag · 16-02-2019 9:30pm

They haven't mentioned anything about this matter on their twitter account, wonder why?

Loafing Oaf · 16-02-2019 9:33pm

chinwag wrote: »

They haven't mentioned anything about this matter on their twitter account, wonder why?

Maybe they haven't a clue what's going on, are not in a position to reassure people that the site will be 'back up shortly' or whatever...

jmcc · 16-02-2019 10:09pm

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Maybe they haven't a clue what's going on, are not in a position to reassure people that the site will be 'back up shortly' or whatever...

Been like that for some time. The site was sold to Pie Media Limited when David Cochrane got a job with the Irish Times. It was sold again a few years later, apparently to an American. Since then it had been slowly falling a part due to technological neglect. Last year, a Canadian was brought into to fix some of the problems and upgrade the site software to a more recent version. He did not seem to have any great knowledge of databases and SQL and deleted tens of thousands of posts covering major Irish political events such as the bursting of the property bubble and the bailout to make the site run faster.

The site had been hosted on an Irish hoster but he and the owner decided to move it to a hoster in the US. The Canadian had apparently been convinced to remain on as the administrator. He introduced some rules that were completely unsuited to an Irish political discussion site or indeed any political discussion site Long time posters started getting banned. Some enquiries by posters on another site uncovered facts that made his position as administrator on Politics.ie highly problematic. There were also some GDPR issues with the site.

The Politics.ie Social Media accounts had been underused and even when the site suffered outages lasting for hours or days, there was rarely anything on these accounts.

Regards...jmcc

rgossip30 · 17-02-2019 3:06am

pjohnson wrote: »

This is hilarious :pac:

Yes we all know that boards is well run impartial forum so any suggestion to the contrary is just hilarious .

pjohnson · 17-02-2019 9:15am

rgossip30 wrote: »

Yes we all know that boards is well run impartial forum so any suggestion to the contrary is just hilarious .

If you think boards/AH is ultra-liberal you have issues.

Del.Monte · 17-02-2019 10:12am

There seemed to be little or no moderation on Politics.ie - the opposite to over here and I for one won't miss it.

Leinsterview · 17-02-2019 11:03am

Del.Monte wrote: »

There seemed to be little or no moderation on Politics.ie - the opposite to over here and I for one won't miss it.

I’ll be like an invalid without his crutch — or a druggie without his daily fix.

Palmach · 17-02-2019 1:16pm

Del.Monte wrote: »

There seemed to be little or no moderation on Politics.ie - the opposite to over here and I for one won't miss it.

That is what made it so good. It was a tad anarchic but that is what the internet is about. Giving free reign to free speech. The contrast with the sound of crickets over here sometimes was stark.

AndrewJRenko · 17-02-2019 1:25pm

kuntboy wrote: »

It was a lot better than the ultra-liberal virtue signalling ****hole that this place has become

The ultra - liberal virtue signalling place that gave double the national vote to Peter Casey in the Presidential poll?

Ulysses Gaze · 17-02-2019 1:34pm

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

The ultra - liberal virtue signalling place that gave double the national vote to Peter Casey in the Presidential poll?

Careful now with them there facts, Andrew.

jmcc · 17-02-2019 7:49pm

Leinsterview wrote: »

I’ll be like an invalid without his crutch — or a druggie without his daily fix.

There are alternatives.

Politicalworld.org was one of the first breakaways from P.ie and is largely left of centre. One site had appeared when P.ie was offline for a few weeks in 2015 (Political.irish). It is more free speech orientated and posters from highly moderated sites may experience culture shock. Another appeared in November 2018 when P.ie was having problems (Irishpolitics.online). Some P.ie posters turned up there but it had been struggling to get traffic and users while P.ie was operational. Yet another replacement appeared a few days ago (Politics.irish). And there's always Boards.ie.

Regards...jmcc

Beanntraigheach · 17-02-2019 9:14pm

jmcc wrote: »

There are alternatives. Politicalworld.org was one of the first breakaways from P.ie and is largely left of centre. One site had appeared when P.ie was offline for a few weeks in 2015 (Political.irish). It is more free speech orientated and posters from highly moderated sites may experience culture shock. Another appeared in November 2018 when P.ie was having problems (Irishpolitics.online). Some P.ie posters turned up there but it had been struggling to get traffic and users while P.ie was operational. Yet another replacement appeared a few days ago (Politics.irish). And there's always Boards.ie.

Regards...jmcc

I notice Loyalist nutter 'Cruimh' is a mod/staff member on IPO.
No thanks

Brendan Bendar · 17-02-2019 10:00pm

jmcc wrote: »

He is busy invading other territories. It would be fun watching the heads explode if he turned up on Boards.

Regards...jmcc

Still spouting rubbish, by the bucket full

jmcc · 17-02-2019 11:19pm

Beanntraigheach wrote: »

I notice Loyalist nutter 'Cruimh' is a mod/staff member on IPO.
No thanks

The site did seem to start out with good intentions but a small clique from P.ie basically became moderators in a kind of regulatory capture and he was one of them. This happened before there were enough users on the site to form a viable population from which to select mods. It may benefit from the influx of ex-P.ie posters. However, others will drift to Boards.ie and others sites.

Regards...jmcc

Mearings · 18-02-2019 7:22pm

Beanntraigheach wrote: »

I notice Loyalist nutter 'Cruimh' is a mod/staff member on IPO.
No thanks

Good example of a malevolent p.ie post above.

Has politics.ie closed down ?

Comments