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Ferguson Ariva 250

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,070 ✭✭✭✭dodzy


    Colmos85 wrote: »
    Another thing when you press the channel list and it shows now/next to the right of each channel, it only shows the now/next if you select the channel. which is a little annoying.
    .
    :confused::confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,351 ✭✭✭Ronnie Raygun


    Daniel S wrote: »
    Is there a similar box to the Ariva 250 ... can also tune into German channels? Basically two satellites inputs and one terrestrial input.

    You don't need 2 satellite tuners to access extra satellite positions, just combine the feeds with a diseqc switch & the receiver automatically switches depending on the selected channel.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    dodzy wrote: »
    :confused::confused:

    i think he means he doesn't have full EPG but that's why the tv supplement is available in saturdays irish independent :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,336 ✭✭✭✭Tony


    Daniel S wrote: »
    Is there a similar box to the Ariva 250 (that still has all of its features) that has a seven day EPG for Freesat, but can also tune into German channels? Basically two satellites inputs and one terrestrial input.

    No 7 day epg but it does receive German channels as it is

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  • Registered Users Posts: 28 Donegal Surfer


    Tony wrote: »
    No 7 day epg but it does receive German channels as it is

    Its strange that some way of downloading a 7 day epg update has not been devised for these systems. On the Blade BM7000 there is a channel listed as '7 day epg'. You select this channel and it downloads the info required and then you click to apply the info to the boxes epg. As far as I know this is a channel broadcast by sky on Astra 28.2. Why can't the Ariva manufacturers just add this as a channel listing also to pull the info down from to save to a memory device and then pull from there when browsing the epg. I'm sure there is a reason why this isnt on the system but I cannot figure it out.

    I wonder what would happen if I got the transponder and frequency etc. of the 7 day epg download channel on the blade and applied it to the Ariva????? Maybe I am wrong and it pulls the info down from the net but I will look into this tonight when playing with the system.

    By the way- I unbricked my system again this morning via a null cable and have the Newcamd working again. All entered in the UI on the box with the remote. No need to save a Cline file to a usb.

    As the Meer cats say......... "Simples!!!' :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,336 ✭✭✭✭Tony


    Its strange that some way of downloading a 7 day epg update has not been devised for these systems.

    Downloading the EPG is not the problem, using it is as its owned by Freesat.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,533 ✭✭✭Daniel S


    Tony wrote: »
    Daniel S wrote: »
    Is there a similar box to the Ariva 250 (that still has all of its features) that has a seven day EPG for Freesat, but can also tune into German channels? Basically two satellites inputs and one terrestrial input.

    No 7 day epg but it does receive German channels as it is
    It can do all three on one channel list simultaneously? That's pretty much exactly what im looking for bar the 7 day EPG. Ease of use/speed when recording programs in the future is by far the most important thing for my mam. Is it as fast as sky's tv guide to navigate? Looks much prettier, but if its as slow as some of the UPC boxes I've seen... :/

    Currently we have three separate boxes for sky/saorview(htpc)/german channels(silvercrest job) and four remotes in total...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭STB


    Its strange that some way of downloading a 7 day epg update has not been devised for these systems. On the Blade BM7000 there is a channel listed as '7 day epg'. You select this channel and it downloads the info required and then you click to apply the info to the boxes epg. As far as I know this is a channel broadcast by sky on Astra 28.2. Why can't the Ariva manufacturers just add this as a channel listing also to pull the info down from to save to a memory device and then pull from there when browsing the epg. I'm sure there is a reason why this isnt on the system but I cannot figure it out.

    I wonder what would happen if I got the transponder and frequency etc. of the 7 day epg download channel on the blade and applied it to the Ariva????? Maybe I am wrong and it pulls the info down from the net but I will look into this tonight when playing with the system.

    By the way- I unbricked my system again this morning via a null cable and have the Newcamd working again. All entered in the UI on the box with the remote. No need to save a Cline file to a usb.

    As the Meer cats say......... "Simples!!!' :D

    The Blade 7000 isnt a combo though, which means no Saorview. The combo version of that box that is available is DVB-C only, so no good.

    And what they have implemented on the Blades is the same as what they have done for the Technomates (which is no surprise as both the Technomates and Blades are made by Hubtech in Korea - same software, different bootloader). A little API patch to load the Sky OpenEPg data, thats all they have done. Nothing will happen for the Arivas's as the Technomate patch hasnt and couldnt be applied to it, without rewriting it. It wont load by just going to the transponder frequency. Even if you had the source code for the Ariva's how would you implement it ? It is not as simple as you think. :)

    You cant brick the Ariva's as the Rom is protected.


  • Registered Users Posts: 113 ✭✭stwome01


    STB wrote: »
    The Blade 7000 isnt a combo though, which means no Saorview. The combo version of that box that is available is DVB-C only, so no good.

    And what they have implemented on the Blades is the same as what they have done for the Technomates (which is no surprise as both the Technomates and Blades are made by Hubtech in Korea - same software, diffrent bootloader). A little API patch to load the Sky OpenEPg data, thats all they have done. Nothing will happen for the Arivas's as the Technomate patch hasnt and couldnt be applied to it, without rewriting it. It wont load by just going to the transponder frequency.

    You cant brick the Ariva's as the Rom is protected.

    Any chance in the future that a 7 day epg could be download via the web?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭STB


    stwome01 wrote: »
    Any chance in the future that a 7 day epg could be download via the web?

    Everything is possible, if they release the source code or someone with access to the firmware - like the patch coders could be arsed doing it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,336 ✭✭✭✭Tony


    Daniel S wrote: »
    It can do all three on one channel list simultaneously?

    Yes it can do that and you can even set up a favorite list which contains all 3 sources.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 24 Colmos85


    Tony wrote: »
    Its not a plug its an adapter, what did you find not good about it ?

    Well if I knew that it would have saved me some bother. :)
    I haven't come across one of those before, if I tried to use it as a plug it wouldn't work with cut wires, for obvious reasons. Apologies Tony.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,336 ✭✭✭✭Tony


    Colmos85 wrote: »
    Well if I knew that it would have saved me some bother. :)
    I haven't come across one of those before, if I tried to use it as a plug it wouldn't work with cut wires, for obvious reasons. Apologies Tony.

    No problem

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  • Registered Users Posts: 24 Colmos85


    dodzy wrote: »
    :confused::confused:

    Channel list or Guide, when you want to leave on the channel your watching and see whats now/next on other channels it doesn't show up unless you select that channel.
    Another thing I noticed is it freezes sometimes, happened twice for me this week, once when recording to a WD HDD. had to unplug to stop recording.
    Second time was today, nothing was recording but a Iomega HDD was plugged in and it was stuck in one channel. I couldn't do anything power, change channel etc. I unplugged the HDD and it worked again straight away. :confused:

    I upgraded the box to V1.19B1 the day it came in the post. maybe this update caused issues? Has anyone else experienced these kind of issues?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,070 ✭✭✭✭dodzy


    Colmos85 wrote: »
    Channel list or Guide, when you want to leave on the channel your watching and see whats now/next on other channels it doesn't show up unless you select that channel.
    Another thing I noticed is it freezes sometimes, happened twice for me this week, once when recording to a WD HDD. had to unplug to stop recording.
    Second time was today, nothing was recording but a Iomega HDD was plugged in and it was stuck in one channel. I couldn't do anything power, change channel etc. I unplugged the HDD and it worked again straight away. :confused:

    I upgraded the box to V1.19B1 the day it came in the post. maybe this update caused issues? Has anyone else experienced these kind of issues?
    Now I get you. Yep, its hit and miss for the "scroll through" now and next display. Its the same on earlier FW revs. Not a biggie for me though. No freezing issues here though. That said, recording is not a regular occurrence.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 24 Colmos85


    dodzy wrote: »
    Now I get you. Yep, its hit and miss for the "scroll through" now and next display. Its the same on earlier FW revs. Not a biggie for me though. No freezing issues here though. That said, recording is not a regular occurrence.

    Ill get used to it too, not paying sky will pay for my car insurance for the year so its well worth it. :D
    I dont watch much tv but what im really happy with is the media player on this box, bar one file it plays everything I throw at it.

    BIG Thumbs UP.

    Also like to mention I ordered the box at 2.30pm on a Thursday and I had the box the following Friday morning from Satellite.ie
    Very pleased!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,336 ✭✭✭✭Tony


    Colmos85 wrote: »
    Also like to mention I ordered the box at 2.30pm on a Thursday and I had the box the following Friday morning from Satellite.ie
    Very pleased!

    Thanks for the kind words

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,336 ✭✭✭✭Tony


    There now follows a very important post by STB :)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,070 ✭✭✭✭dodzy


    Tony wrote: »
    There now follows a very important post by STB :)

    /gets popcorn....and waits :rolleyes:

    EDIT: just seen it over on the 120 thread.


  • Registered Users Posts: 28 Donegal Surfer


    Can somebody with an Ariva 250 please confirm that they can pick up Sky sports 2 HD and Sky summer HD when they do a scan? They are both on the same transponder and my system will pick up everything but this transponder. I hope its not a tuner issue.:eek:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,336 ✭✭✭✭Tony


    I'm told it does work, try manually adding the transponder and scan on Eurobird one. Its not a tuner issue.


    Can somebody with an Ariva 250 please confirm that they can pick up Sky sports 2 HD and Sky summer HD when they do a scan? They are both on the same transponder and my system will pick up everything but this transponder. I hope its not a tuner issue.:eek:

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  • Registered Users Posts: 28 Donegal Surfer


    Tony wrote: »
    I'm told it does work, try manually adding the transponder and scan on Eurobird one. Its not a tuner issue.

    I have tried adding the transponder 11719 H 29500 and also 11740 V 29500 then scanned on Astra 2A and not a sign of Sky Sports HD 2 or Summer HD. Am I doing something wrong? What frequency/transponder are you picking these channels up on?


  • Registered Users Posts: 28 Donegal Surfer


    Tony wrote: »
    I'm told it does work, try manually adding the transponder and scan on Eurobird one. Its not a tuner issue.

    So Tony, You think that Sky Sports HD 2 and Summer HD is picked up from Eurobird as oppossed to Astra 2A?

    Thanks for the help on this......its boggling my mind for the past 3 days!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,336 ✭✭✭✭Tony


    So Tony, You think that Sky Sports HD 2 and Summer HD is picked up from Eurobird as oppossed to Astra 2A?


    It makes no difference what satellite its picked up on, the receiver does not know the difference. Editing the transponder on the eurobird list does seem to work though.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭STB


    Ariva 250 Channel List based upon firmware version 1.19B1 - upgrade to this firmware first before doing the following.

    If you are already on version 1.19B1 then you just need to go to Tools, Upgrade by USB, then right click til you get userdb and then click down to start and flash this file to your box. When it gets to 100% it is done.

    Channel Lists included
    (Astra 1, 2 and Hotbird)
    Favourite List 1 - Saorview & Satellite (Ordered)
    Favourite List 2 - BBC Red Button
    Favourite List 3 - Sky Channels (Alphabetical - Including Sky 2 HD/Sky Summer HD)

    All Channels
    Hot Bird
    Astra 1
    Astra 2A (Alphabetical)
    Eurobird

    You may need to rescan your Saorview channels for your area. This one includes Mt Leinster.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,109 ✭✭✭The Ayatolla


    Does this box work with CCCam? Any guides anywhere to get this working?


  • Registered Users Posts: 32 gerkildare


    Hi there folks; Ok I'm totally new to this 'stuff' so forgive my [soon to be apparent] stupidity in all matters stb-ish.
    I wanted to get an Ariva 250 from Tony @ Satellite.ie BUT 'she' arrived home with one from H.Norman and muggins here got the 'make it work' look!
    I'm going to need a second one, so depending on how I get on here I'll be insisting the next time :)

    Firstly - It seems to be [after a fashion] working with saorview and some FTA channels coming in.
    I scanned using Astra1 only, but reading thru some threads here it kinda looks like I should've used 2A [that right?] If this is so... should I rescan and try delete the Astra1 stuff? Or do a total rescan? Or what?
    Would the fact that I 'used' Astra1 in any way explain that bbc4 isn't coming in as a TV station but IS coming in [somewhat intermittently, with pictures] as a Radio station [!!]

    Please tell me this is normal for this box! - but we've noticed, say when a scrambled channel is selected [or when there's a real quite passage during a programme] the box is making a gentle sizzling/hissing sound [I kid you not - three of us noticed it at the same time!] There's nothing on top of the box, and it has good air flow all around - this sound familiar??

    As someone else has said here, the stb arrived with a 2-pin plug; possibly a dumb question but is it ok/safe to remove this and fit a 'standard' three-pin fitted with a 1 or 3 amp fuse?

    Lastly [for now, probably!]
    I'm intrigued by STB's post below - is it possible that some kind soul could explain in 'idiot' english how I can get this to work for me? I understand [basically] what channel lists and firmware [where do I find my version code?] are, but actually getting from where I am now to STB's lists/channels is beyond me!

    Thanks v.much for bearing with me folks - I'm at your mercy so feel free to offer any advice that'll actually help me!!

    :o
    STB wrote: »
    Ariva 250 Channel List based upon firmware version 1.19B1 - upgrade to this firmware first before doing the following.

    If you are already on version 1.19B1 then you just need to go to Tools, Upgrade by USB, then right click til you get userdb and then click down to start and flash this file to your box. When it gets to 100% it is done.

    Channel Lists included
    (Astra 1, 2 and Hotbird)
    Favourite List 1 - Saorview & Satellite (Ordered)
    Favourite List 2 - BBC Red Button
    Favourite List 3 - Sky Channels (Alphabetical - Including Sky 2 HD/Sky Summer HD)

    All Channels
    Hot Bird
    Astra 1
    Astra 2A (Alphabetical)
    Eurobird

    You may need to rescan your Saorview channels for your area. This one includes Mt Leinster.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 702 ✭✭✭JonathonS


    gerkildare wrote: »
    As someone else has said here, the stb arrived with a 2-pin plug; possibly a dumb question but is it ok/safe to remove this and fit a 'standard' three-pin
    :o

    There should be a 3-pin plug on the unit, or else it should come with an approved adaptor. The sale of most electrical goods that require a plug is prohibited unless the plug/adaptor complies with the Irish regs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,336 ✭✭✭✭Tony


    I'd ask Harvey Norman for an adapter ( its illegal to selll a box without one now ) as if you take the two pin plug off you will void the warranty.

    Handiest way to get all your channels is to do a factory reset and use a channel list loaded via a USB key . ( we sell them pre programmed for satellite as most independents do)

    Its very important though to take a note of the firmware version you have as this must be matched to the channel list you are using . You can find this in information in the menu . If you let us know what version you have we can point you in the right direction .

    Hope this helps

    gerkildare wrote: »

    As someone else has said here, the stb arrived with a 2-pin plug; possibly a dumb question but is it ok/safe to remove this and fit a 'standard' three-pin fitted with a 1 or 3 amp fuse?



    :o

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  • Registered Users Posts: 32 gerkildare


    Thanks v.much for the reply JonathonS and Tony - ok I'll try HN's for the adaptor 1st and come back on here later with the firmware id. ;-) G


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  • Registered Users Posts: 32 gerkildare


    gerkildare wrote: »
    Thanks v.much for the reply JonathonS and Tony - ok I'll try HN's for the adaptor 1st and come back on here later with the firmware id. ;-) G

    Ok lads - got the adaptor fitted.
    Info sez... "Maincode = v1.18B6" - hope this is some use?

    Thanks - G


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,336 ✭✭✭✭Tony


    gerkildare wrote: »
    Ok lads - got the adaptor fitted.
    Info sez... "Maincode = v1.18B6" - hope this is some use?

    Thanks - G

    Ok heres your channel list http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?3djceaonu7wde1n

    Do this at your own risk :

    1.Download .abs file onto USB stick

    2.Plug USB portable memory into USB port of receiver.
    (3) Go to Menu->Tools->Upgrade By USB
    (4) Select upgrade mode : usedb
    (5) Select desired software file
    (6) Press start to upgrade receiver

    (7) Please wait... After upgrade done successfully receiver will reboot automatically .

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  • Registered Users Posts: 32 gerkildare


    Thanks v.much for your help Tony.
    At the risk of incurring your ire [and bearing in mind the "Do this at your own risk" line below]...

    1. Should I still do the factory reset first [as you mentioned earlier]
    2. What will this upgrade actually do? [I wasn't kidding when I said I was stupid about this stuff!]
    3. What could go wrong - am I likely to be left with a useless box?

    Thanks again - G
    Tony wrote: »
    Ok heres your channel list http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?3djceaonu7wde1n

    Do this at your own risk :

    1.Download .abs file onto USB stick

    2.Plug USB portable memory into USB port of receiver.
    (3) Go to Menu->Tools->Upgrade By USB
    (4) Select upgrade mode : usedb
    (5) Select desired software file
    (6) Press start to upgrade receiver

    (7) Please wait... After upgrade done successfully receiver will reboot automatically .


  • Registered Users Posts: 24 ChorleyMatt


    gerkildare wrote: »
    Thanks v.much for your help Tony.
    At the risk of incurring your ire [and bearing in mind the "Do this at your own risk" line below]...

    1. Should I still do the factory reset first [as you mentioned earlier]
    2. What will this upgrade actually do? [I wasn't kidding when I said I was stupid about this stuff!]
    3. What could go wrong - am I likely to be left with a useless box?

    Thanks again - G

    1 - No. The file Tony has linked to is for your software version.
    2 - A current channel list.
    3 - Highly unlikely to kill it - it's an updated channel list.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 404 ✭✭king2


    Should there be a card module with the 250? The instructions says there is one included.I dont need it, just curious to know if there should be one with the box.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24 ChorleyMatt


    There's a card reader and a CI/CAM slot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 404 ✭✭king2


    http://www.4shared.com/folder/qegsXkzP/_online.html

    should the holder the card goes into (see picture) be included ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 24 ChorleyMatt


    king2 wrote: »
    http://www.4shared.com/folder/qegsXkzP/_online.html

    should the holder the card goes into (see picture) be included ?

    No.

    The top slot is a card reader (card straight in here - decodes several encryption systems)

    The lower slot is a CI slot - you need a CAM (Conditional Access Module) in here then the relevant card fits inside this.

    Example, my current system:

    Top (Card Reader): Cyfra+ card

    Bottom (CI slot): nPremium CAM & card

    Hope that makes sense??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,336 ✭✭✭✭Tony


    gerkildare wrote: »
    At the risk of incurring your ire

    No ire incurred :) I think Matt has you covered

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  • Registered Users Posts: 32 gerkildare


    Tony wrote: »
    No ire incurred :) I think Matt has you covered

    Thanks for the help Matt and Tony - I'm going at this now! ;)
    [btw - I'm assuming I'll have to re-scan for Saorview, yes?]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,336 ✭✭✭✭Tony


    gerkildare wrote: »
    [btw - I'm assuming I'll have to re-scan for Saorview, yes?]

    Yes, reason for this is Saorview frequencies are different for each transmitter so its not possible to include these in a channel list for everyone . I was hoping users here would post up lists for their local transmitter but this has not happened so far.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭excollier


    Try here, just click on the relevant transmitter for frequency/polarity.
    http://coverage.rtenl.ie/index.php
    For starters: Holywell Hill, Co. Donegal Ch 30 / H
    Letterkenny, Co. Donegal, (Mongorry Hill), Ch 53 / V

    Just off to walk the dogs in Mongorry Forest now, right beside the transmitter.


  • Registered Users Posts: 52 ✭✭henryhenry


    I placed an order yesterday afternoon for my parents and received the box this morning. Great service Tony.

    The only thing i cant seem to do is back up the channels list. Anyone know how to do this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,336 ✭✭✭✭Tony


    henryhenry wrote: »
    I placed an order yesterday afternoon for my parents and received the box this morning. Great service Tony.

    The only thing i cant seem to do is back up the channels list. Anyone know how to do this?

    Thanks for the kind words . You can use "dumpfile" in the tools/usb to back up a list to a USB key. You can also download this from the link a few posts back

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  • Registered Users Posts: 32 gerkildare


    Thanks to JonathonS, Tony and ChorleyMatt - all works fine, have deleted most of the crud channels.
    Now for a nice walk!! ;-) G


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  • Registered Users Posts: 52 ✭✭henryhenry


    Tony wrote: »
    Thanks for the kind words . You can use "dumpfile" in the tools/usb to back up a list to a USB key. You can also download this from the link a few posts back
    That did the trick. Thanks again Tony.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,855 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    There is to be no discussion of using this box for the following:
    • card sharing
    • using to access Sky Digital subscription channels (even if you have a legitimate Sky subscription. Sky viewing cards may only be used in Sky Digiboxes and there is no legal CAM for Videoguard)


  • Registered Users Posts: 53 ✭✭kelsca


    Hi,
    Does anyone know if you
    can stream to this box-ariva 250 from pc
    I ask as it is able to receive youtube etc.
    Thanks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 106 ✭✭iarann


    Hi,

    On a 250 If I record a program what format is it in, can I plud HDD into PC & edit this on PC eg in Adobe Premiere Elements.

    Anybody have experience with this?

    J


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭STB


    iarann wrote: »
    Hi,

    On a 250 If I record a program what format is it in, can I plud HDD into PC & edit this on PC eg in Adobe Premiere Elements.

    Anybody have experience with this?

    J
    They files recorded on the Ariva are TS files and are fully editable with a variety of free software.


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