WRITTEN EXAMINERS 2019

Guirimasguiri · 11-09-2019 3:08pm

thefasteriwalk wrote: »

I got paid August 30.

When was it that you finished?

thefasteriwalk · 11-09-2019 6:35pm

July 11

rainbowtrout · 11-09-2019 11:04pm

thefasteriwalk wrote: »

I got paid August 30.

:eek::eek::eek::eek:

I sent in my form on the August Bank holiday, hopefully it will be next week if they are that efficient this year.

spurious · 13-09-2019 10:29am

Got paid today 1100 euro net. Even plus the 600 odd advance, it is cruel money for the amount of work. 583 papers (JC).
Needs must though, in my case.

Guirimasguiri · 13-09-2019 10:37am

spurious wrote: »

Got paid today 1100 euro net. Even plus the 600 odd advance, it is cruel money for the amount of work. 583 papers (JC).
Needs must though, in my case.

583 papers?! ðŸ˜³ What was your subject?

spurious · 13-09-2019 10:43am

Guirimasguiri wrote: »

583 papers?! &#55357;&#56883; What was your subject?

Rather not say publicly, but an OL paper. I took quite a lot of extra papers as we were promised an an extra payment for any over the average.

Last year we were promised the same and didn't get it, but I think we did get it this year.

Portsalon · 18-09-2019 10:20am

I posted my completed account form to my supervisor first thing on Monday 15 July but still haven't been paid. :mad:

Allowing for the supervisor to have spent a couple of days before sending it on, the SEC should have received it by Monday 22nd July, so I've now been waiting for payment for eight weeks which is unacceptable.

The Prompt Payment of Suppliers Act (1997) states that "payment must be made within 45 days of receipt of an invoice or date of supply (of goods or service), whichever is the later." In my case, and allowing for the delay before my supervisor forwarded my "invoice" to the SEC, this means that I should have been paid no later than 5th September. Perhaps it's time to kick some SEC ass!

Postgrad10 · 18-09-2019 10:39am

I’m the same. Won’t be bothering next year.

spurious · 18-09-2019 10:47am

Seems to be a right mess this year. Leaving Cert appeals being blamed for things they should have no effect whatsoever on.

For example the JC results. LC Appeal examiners have no input there at all. All the JC results have been sitting in Athlone since at least the first week of August.

Unless they are running on an absolutely skeleton staff for some reason, there is no reason for the payment or JC delays.

Portsalon · 18-09-2019 10:55am

Postgrad10 wrote: »

I’m the same. Won’t be bothering next year.

Me too! Definitely not worth the hassle.

I had made up my mind not to correct this summer, but foolishly changed my mind when I was phoned by a desperate SEC minion in late May!

Postgrad10 · 18-09-2019 11:08am

We won’t get fooled again!

Random sample · 18-09-2019 8:20pm

I’m in the privileged position of using SEC money for extras rather than day to day expenses, so I always hope to have the money by October, and anything else is a bonus. It takes the annoyance out of the wait for payment every year.

deiseindublin · 18-09-2019 9:11pm

They ARE running on skeleton staff, always, so I can only imagine what doubling the number of appeals did to their admin levels. True, JC results are sitting there but probably haven't been processed.

18-09-2019 9:12pm

It's interesting how people are so vexxed by the delayed payments almost like they are just about keeping the wolf from the door

... yet in the same breath won't bother working for the extra cash next year.

km79 · 18-09-2019 9:22pm

salonfire wrote: »

It's interesting how people are so vexxed by the delayed payments almost like they are just about keeping the wolf from the door

... yet in the same breath won't bother working for the extra cash next year.

Maybe they plan on getting a different job that pays them on time?
Back to your After Hours teaching bashing thread now for another while

19-09-2019 5:13am

km79 wrote: »

Maybe they plan on getting a different job that pays them on time?
Back to your After Hours teaching bashing thread now for another while

Really? A job that lasts for a month that pays better? How many such jobs are available?

We often here how poorly paid teachers are and how they have the best interests of the students in mind.

Yet when the opportunity to earn extra and ensure that enough staff are on hand to mark students' hard work, the SEC have to desperately ring around.

km79 · 19-09-2019 9:20am

salonfire wrote: »

Really? A job that lasts for a month that pays better? How many such jobs are available?

We often here how poorly paid teachers are and how they have the best interests of the students in mind.

Yet when the opportunity to earn extra and ensure that enough staff are on hand to mark students' hard work, the SEC have to desperately ring around.

Ring around ?????
Laugh out loud I’ve heard it all now

doc_17 · 19-09-2019 10:45am

salonfire wrote: »

Really? A job that lasts for a month that pays better? How many such jobs are available?

We often here how poorly paid teachers are and how they have the best interests of the students in mind.

Yet when the opportunity to earn extra and ensure that enough staff are on hand to mark students' hard work, the SEC have to desperately ring around.

Some subjects are very poorly paid and yet the marking takes the same length of time and that’s why they struggle to get people.

Portsalon · 19-09-2019 11:40am

salonfire wrote: »

We often here how poorly paid teachers are and how they have the best interests of the students in mind.

Where did you here (sic) that loads of codswallop? I care as much for my pupils as they care for me - no more and no less.

Oh, and I correct Leaving Cert scripts mainly because the massive post-tax, PRSI and USC payment that I receive enables me to support my string of mistresses at the level of luxury to which they are entitled.

Portsalon · 19-09-2019 2:43pm

salonfire wrote: »

It's interesting how people are so vexxed by the delayed payments almost like they are just about keeping the wolf from the door

... yet in the same breath won't bother working for the extra cash next year.

Evidently, concepts such as cash flow and budgeting lie far beyond your comprehensive capabilities.

So let me simplify the problem to you: imagine that your dole didn't turn up in the post office one Thursday morning? You'd probably be a bit put out and, in a worst case scenario, the lack of funds might prevent you going out on the piss with your mates that weekend. Wouldn't that be absolutely dreadful?

Anyway, the long-awaited payment came into my bank account this morning, so I'm going on the lash tomorrow evening. All going well there won't an uneaten lobster left in Killybegs by Saturday morning!

wingnut · 16-11-2019 7:48am

Thinking of applying for corrections this year. Money is not the big consideration it's a new course and I and the insight into the marking. Never corrected before for SEC.

1. Can you ask for a minimum amount of papers if like in my situation the money is not important? ( There are less that 50 schools doing this exam).
2. There have been a lot of changes with online making and appeal windows so what in the likely time commitment and over that dates?

Random sample · 16-11-2019 9:58am

The smaller the subject the less wriggle room their is for examiners, I would imagine, because they won’t have many people to share the exams around. Taking less papers would cost the SEC more because they would be likely to need an extra examiner to accommodate that.

The conference date is usually within a week or so of the exam, and marking continues for 26 days after that.

rainbowtrout · 16-11-2019 11:58am

wingnut wrote: »

Thinking of applying for corrections this year. Money is not the big consideration it's a new course and I and the insight into the marking. Never corrected before for SEC.

1. Can you ask for a minimum amount of papers if like in my situation the money is not important? ( There are less that 50 schools doing this exam).
2. There have been a lot of changes with online making and appeal windows so what in the likely time commitment and over that dates?

If there are less than 50 schools it is an option subject or it’s a pilot subject like computer science or PE at leaving cert. Even allowing for a class of 20 entered from each school you are looking at 1000 students/scripts max. If it is a LC subject there will be HL and OL. Maybe on an 80/20 split. Maybe more, maybe less.

Examiners typically get 400 papers, can be less depending on the nature of exam or numbers sitting exam, but realistically even at a very low 200 papers per examiner they won’t need more than 5 examiners plus some advisers. I don’t think you’ll have much ability to argue for a smaller number of scripts if other examiners are available to do more. Hiring you on a lower number might mean having to hire an extra examiner to take your surplus which they don’t need to do.

RealJohn · 17-11-2019 11:04pm

I agree with the above, but I’d also add that if there are only 50 schools doing the subject, they probably won’t need examiners anyway. The examiners are probably quite settled and enjoy the work and the process, so you might be relying on someone retiring or deciding they’ve done it for long enough before there’s even an open slot.

Big subjects will always be taking on new examiners. Small ones will do so less frequently.

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