Brendan Dassey's conviction overturned

drunkmonkey · 12-08-2016 9:45pm #1

Conviction overturned for Stephen Averys nephew http://www.thejournal.ie/making-a-murderer-brendan-dassey-conviction-2925616-Aug2016/

mikeym · 12-08-2016 9:48pm

About time.

drunkmonkey · 12-08-2016 9:48pm

mikeym wrote: »

About time.

I thought he done it though?

Armchair Andy · 12-08-2016 9:49pm

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Conviction overturned for Stephen Averys nephew http://www.thejournal.ie/making-a-murderer-brendan-dassey-conviction-2925616-Aug2016/

What did the laziest man in the world say when he fell into the fire?

"I'm on fire".

drunkmonkey · 12-08-2016 9:51pm

mikeym wrote: »

About time.

Sorry only remembering it now, I thought it was the girls house mate.

GerryDerpy · 12-08-2016 10:00pm

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Sorry only remembering it now, I thought it was the girls house mate.

I don't think there is enough evidence to say he did...but he was definitely hiding something. Wiping the voicemails was very suspicious.

steddyeddy · 12-08-2016 10:13pm

Well that goes a long way towards getting Stephen off.

Tipsy McSwagger · 12-08-2016 10:14pm

Dassey was probably roped into covering up Avery's crime. I 100% believe Avery is guilty, was never quiet sure about Dassey. I believe he helped cover up the crime and should serve time.

Alf Stewart. · 12-08-2016 10:14pm

So he didn't fly the planes during 9/11

drunkmonkey · 12-08-2016 10:20pm

Alf Stewart. wrote: »

So he didn't fly the planes during 9/11

The true store behind 9/11

ygolometsipe · 12-08-2016 10:23pm

"Shots fired 300 miles from Brendan Dassey home as he was questioned in court. Manitowoc county police are now questioning Dassey despite the fact
the he was in court and in custody when it happened. Sources within the Department say 'hes guilty as sin.'"

sky news shots fired brendan dasseys home

Fr_Dougal · 12-08-2016 11:01pm

He's guilty. Big guilty head on him so there is.

FTA69 · 12-08-2016 11:09pm

drunkmonkey wrote: »

I thought he done it though?

Um... Yeah?

The Raptor · 12-08-2016 11:14pm

I hope he sues the Manitowoc county cops.

And Steven Avery as well when he's released.

Tilikum · 12-08-2016 11:42pm

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

Dassey was probably roped into covering up Avery's crime. I 100% believe Avery is guilty, was never quiet sure about Dassey. I believe he helped cover up the crime and should serve time.

Where exactly do you think he killed her? What did he do with all the blood?

Chancer3001 · 12-08-2016 11:43pm

He'll be out in time for wrestlemania

Pawwed Rig · 12-08-2016 11:45pm

Watched the first episode but never got back to it. Is it worth a look? ?

Chancer3001 · 12-08-2016 11:50pm

I remember joe.ie had one or two posts about this show on their website

drunkmonkey · 12-08-2016 11:52pm

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

Watched the first episode but never got back to it. Is it worth a look? ?

You kinda know the ending now. I'd go with game of trones if you haven't already.

smash · 13-08-2016 8:53am

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

Dassey was probably roped into covering up Avery's crime. I 100% believe Avery is guilty, was never quiet sure about Dassey. I believe he helped cover up the crime and should serve time.

Roped into? He was mentally challenged and guided and coerced by the investigators. Go and read the judges verdict on the overturning!

If you believe Avery is guilty then you need to do some proper research on the case.

MadDog76 · 13-08-2016 10:28am

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

Dassey was probably roped into covering up Avery's crime. I 100% believe Avery is guilty, was never quiet sure about Dassey. I believe he helped cover up the crime and should serve time.

Looks like we have a member of the Jury here ............

c montgomery · 13-08-2016 10:33am

Guilty as sin the big idiot, released to offend again just like his uncle.

MadDog76 · 13-08-2016 10:35am

c montgomery wrote: »

Guilty as sin the big idiot, released to offend again just like his uncle.

Jury member number 2 has just turned up!! :rolleyes:

c montgomery · 13-08-2016 10:38am

MadDog76 wrote: »

Jury member number 2 has just turned up!! :rolleyes:

And here's the guy who watched a biased documentary and thinks he knows it all

Sheep sheep sheep

MadDog76 · 13-08-2016 10:38am

It's always blatantly obvious when a person hasn't watched the documentary or done any research on the case that they've been able to comprehend ......... they think Brendan Dassey is guilty.

MadDog76 · 13-08-2016 10:39am

c montgomery wrote: »

And here's the guy who watched a biased documentary and thinks he knows it all

Sheep sheep sheep

And here's a guy who did no research or didn't understand the facts of the case ........... the documentary is just a starting point, there's a lot more to this case.

smash · 13-08-2016 10:40am

c montgomery wrote: »

And here's the guy who watched a biased documentary and thinks he knows it all

Sheep sheep sheep

The documentary isn't biased, the prosecution just refused to be a part of it. And despite the series, you can review all the evidence, court transcripts and police reports online. You'd be a complete moron to believe in his guilt.

Frynge · 13-08-2016 10:41am

In fairness, it was a documentary on Netflix, yes it was entertaining but people in general should not be so arrogant so as to think the know all the ins and outs of a court case held over 5000 miles away.

c montgomery · 13-08-2016 10:42am

MadDog76 wrote: »

And here's a guy who did no research or didn't understand the facts of the case ........... the documentary is just a starting point, there's a lot more to this case.

I'll let the Jury decide on his guilt not some sheep on the Internet.

MadDog76 · 13-08-2016 10:43am

c montgomery wrote: »

I'll let the Jury decide on his guilt not some sheep on the Internet.

That's big of you!

c montgomery · 13-08-2016 10:45am

smash wrote: »

The documentary isn't biased, the prosecution just refused to be a part of it. And despite the series, you can review all the evidence, court transcripts and police reports online. You'd be a complete moron to believe in his guilt.

People who don't agree with you are morons? Says alot about you.

Documentary is totally biased.

Jury had all the facts and found them both guilty . You have a 10 part documentary and some Internet forums to Base your opinion on.

c montgomery · 13-08-2016 10:46am

MadDog76 wrote: »

That's big of you!

I'm the sheep dog

elefant · 13-08-2016 10:47am

c montgomery wrote: »

And here's the guy who watched a biased documentary and thinks he knows it all

Sheep sheep sheep

Well, a judge has just quashed his conviction and spoken out very strongly against the prosecution for what they did to Brendan.

So now we have the documentary and a judge questioning his conviction. You sure you're not just being argumentative?

MadDog76 · 13-08-2016 10:49am

Frynge wrote: »

In fairness, it was a documentary on Netflix, yes it was entertaining but people in general should not be so arrogant so as to think the know all the ins and outs of a court case held over 5000 miles away.

I don't think Brendan's conviction was over-turned based on the documentary .......... it created public awareness of the case, as intended, and paved the way for this case to be reviewed as needed .......... but it was actual evidence, or lack thereof, that resulted in Brendan's prosecution crumbling ......... this is the first step in the right direction for looking at Stephen Avery's dubious conviction.

smash · 13-08-2016 10:50am

c montgomery wrote: »

People who don't agree with you are morons? Says alot about you.

Documentary is totally biased.

Jury had all the facts and found them both guilty . You have a 10 part documentary and some Internet forums to Base your opinion on.

They didn't have the facts, they were fed a false story by the DA and the jury pool was tainted. This is well documented.

And it's not basing information on Internet forums, as I said the case files are public.

MadDog76 · 13-08-2016 10:51am

c montgomery wrote: »

I'm the sheep dog

Amongst other things .......... I happen to be the Shepherd! :P

MadDog76 · 13-08-2016 10:52am

elefant wrote: »

Well, a judge has just quashed his conviction and spoken out very strongly against the prosecution for what they did to Brendan.

So now we have the documentary and a judge questioning his conviction. You sure you're not just being argumentative?

Leave him off, he has no idea what he's talking about, he's repeating stuff he heard "cool" people say in work ..........

c montgomery · 13-08-2016 10:52am

MadDog76 wrote: »

Amongst other things .......... I happen to be the Shepherd! :P

Shepherds pie for dinner tonight then

c montgomery · 13-08-2016 10:53am

MadDog76 wrote: »

Leave him off, he has no idea what he's talking about, he's repeating stuff he heard "cool" people say in work ..........

How did you know I work at the ice cream factory?

MadDog76 · 13-08-2016 11:03am

c montgomery wrote: »

Shepherds pie for dinner tonight then

And that says all that needs to be said about your understanding of the basics ......... you don't even realise that shepherd's pie isn't actually made from Shepherd's!!

Nice try though.

Anyway, back to the discussion at hand ......... I'm delighted that justice is finally prevailing in this case and the documentary can take a lot of credit for getting the ball rolling.

Winterlong · 13-08-2016 11:15am

Sp surprising that someone can get convicted on such light evidence in this day and age.
Brendan would have confessed to assassinating JFK, he really had no clue what was going on. Poor kid.

trickymicky · 15-08-2016 10:22pm

Correct me if I'm wrong which I probably am but if their releasing Brendan due to his testimony being forced should that mean it's inadmissible meaning Steven should be released as Brendan supposed testimony was a lot to do with his conviction?

A_Sober_Paddy · 15-08-2016 10:29pm

c montgomery wrote: »

And here's the guy who watched a biased documentary and thinks he knows it all

Sheep sheep sheep

I don't like Steven Avery, think his an unsavoury person. But the police have screwed him twice. He was proper framed for the haubach murder, he was in the process of sueing the county and he probably would have won and bankrupted the county...

That blonde vile and the truck turning up a few days before it was 'found' on Avery's land, super dodgy

smash · 15-08-2016 10:40pm

trickymicky wrote: »

Correct me if I'm wrong which I probably am but if their releasing Brendan due to his testimony being forced should that mean it's inadmissible meaning Steven should be released as Brendan supposed testimony was a lot to do with his conviction?

Brendan's coerced confession wasn't used in Stevens trial because it was made up. The prosecution wouldn't ever have put him on the stand. It was purely used for the pre-trial press conference to taint the public opinion.

AllGunsBlazing · 15-08-2016 10:47pm

Frynge wrote: »

In fairness, it was a documentary on Netflix, yes it was entertaining but people in general should not be so arrogant so as to think the know all the ins and outs of a court case held over 5000 miles away.

But ...but... tv?