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JCormac · 19-02-2019 12:52pm

Has anybody been successful in sourcing (allowed) physical copies of The Sale of Goods & supply of Services Act 1990 & Sale of Goods Act 1893 for the Contract exam?

Been looking around for them myself and haven't been having much luck unforch

Nikcan18 · 19-02-2019 1:13pm

JCormac wrote: »

Has anybody been successful in sourcing (allowed) physical copies of The Sale of Goods & supply of Services Act 1990 & Sale of Goods Act 1893 for the Contract exam?

Been looking around for them myself and haven't been having much luck unforch

Have you contacted the government publication office? 076 1106 834

JCormac · 19-02-2019 2:19pm

Nikcan18 wrote: »

Have you contacted the government publication office? 076 1106 834

Great, thank you!

I didn't actually. I'll ring them in a bit & edit the comment then to say how I got on. (Just in case other people are looking for the Acts also)

Update:

Got the Sale of Goods & Services 1990; Sale of Goods 1893; 2009 Conveyancing Act & The 1965 Succession Act. All for under €25.

Estimated arrival time is 3 days from ordering.

Thought it'd cost a lot more!

z6vm1dobfnca3x · 19-02-2019 2:42pm

Hey,

So based on trends and frequency of topics being examined, I am covering the following for Equity:

Injunctions (particularly quia timet, interlocutory, AP)
Charitable Trusts
Non-Charitable
Cy-press
Rectification
Undue Influence / Recission
Satisfaction
Trusteeship
DMC
Three Certainties
Strong v Bird
Quistclose Trusts

I know the paper is unpredictable etc but I struggle with equity so the above is already a lot for me to get my head around.

Any thoughts? Am I missing anything major, or anything worth leaving out?

Leraf · 19-02-2019 3:40pm

Kyree Bumpy Shrimp wrote: »

Hey,

So based on trends and frequency of topics being examined, I am covering the following for Equity:

Injunctions (particularly quia timet, interlocutory, AP)
Charitable Trusts
Non-Charitable
Cy-press
Rectification
Undue Influence / Recission
Satisfaction
Trusteeship
DMC
Three Certainties
Strong v Bird
Quistclose Trusts

I know the paper is unpredictable etc but I struggle with equity so the above is already a lot for me to get my head around.

Any thoughts? Am I missing anything major, or anything worth leaving out?

Do Specific Performance also. Usually comes up with Rectification.

bigtophat13 · 19-02-2019 3:43pm

Kyree Bumpy Shrimp wrote: »

Hey,

So based on trends and frequency of topics being examined, I am covering the following for Equity:

Injunctions (particularly quia timet, interlocutory, AP)
Charitable Trusts
Non-Charitable
Cy-press
Rectification
Undue Influence / Recission
Satisfaction
Trusteeship
DMC
Three Certainties
Strong v Bird
Quistclose Trusts

I know the paper is unpredictable etc but I struggle with equity so the above is already a lot for me to get my head around.

Any thoughts? Am I missing anything major, or anything worth leaving out?

Leraf wrote: »

Do Specific Performance also. Usually comes up with Rectification.

Specific Performance is very much due (despite the unpredictability). Estoppel has been up 2 in a row and I think SP might be 3 sittings gone at this stage?

mariealice · 19-02-2019 4:01pm

Hey guys,

Looking for recent sample answers for property/eu if anyone has them? Can swap for tort/constitutional sample answers?

nimcdona · 19-02-2019 4:17pm

Kyree Bumpy Shrimp wrote: »

Hey,

So based on trends and frequency of topics being examined, I am covering the following for Equity:

Injunctions (particularly quia timet, interlocutory, AP)
Charitable Trusts
Non-Charitable
Cy-press
Rectification
Undue Influence / Recission
Satisfaction
Trusteeship
DMC
Three Certainties
Strong v Bird
Quistclose Trusts

I know the paper is unpredictable etc but I struggle with equity so the above is already a lot for me to get my head around.

Any thoughts? Am I missing anything major, or anything worth leaving out?

Constructive trusts could be a good one to do if you get a chance, apparently its due and has been always the same 2 essay questions when it appears

ally1234 · 19-02-2019 4:55pm

Hi, anyone else up to their eyeballs in tort, what are topics are people studying/focusing on? Any advice is appreciated as always.

TillyG · 19-02-2019 5:05pm

Hi All,

I'm new to the forum, only joined today. I am sitting exams in October (left to late for March sitting) can anyone provide suggestions for best way to study. Hoping to sit Contract, Equity, Property and Criminal.
Thanks

Kallyann1 · 19-02-2019 7:33pm

Hi!

Does anyone have any sample tort answers? I am finding that the reports are very minimal!

LawGirl3434 · 19-02-2019 7:48pm

Kallyann1 wrote: »

Hi!

Does anyone have any sample tort answers? I am finding that the reports are very minimal!

Hey I do - PM me your email

jewels652 · 19-02-2019 10:02pm

Criminal Law

In the October 2018 report the examiner says that the question is based on the facts of a recent case DPP v Solowiow 2018 I have been looking for this case online and no luck.

Would somebody that may know this case please give me a summary of it.

Thanks

lawless11 · 19-02-2019 10:10pm

jewels652 wrote: »

Criminal Law

In the October 2018 report the examiner says that the question is based on the facts of a recent case DPP v Solowiow 2018 I have been looking for this case online and no luck.

Would somebody that may know this case please give me a summary of it.

Thanks

My 2-second googling gave me this. https://scoirl.wordpress.com/2018/02/17/dpp-v-solowiow-trial-judge-must-assess-defendants-lies-in-time-nature-and-circumstances-of-offence-when-directing-jury/

jewels652 · 19-02-2019 10:12pm

lawless11 wrote: »

My 2-second googling gave me this. https://scoirl.wordpress.com/2018/02/17/dpp-v-solowiow-trial-judge-must-assess-defendants-lies-in-time-nature-and-circumstances-of-offence-when-directing-jury/

Thank you so much.

Gomzu · 19-02-2019 10:12pm

Is anyone else just absolutely wrecked? This is hopefully my last two but I just seem to have lost the will to study ðŸ˜

lawless11 · 19-02-2019 10:17pm

jewels652 wrote: »

Thank you so much.

No probs.

@Gomzu: wrecked, tired, and working lol. Super combo of the death.

Anyway, still looking at any insights about constitutional (and what could be left as topics) :x. Notes ready ok for my other two, but i don't have time to do constitutional ones so I think i'll just try and learn off the manual.

Leraf · 20-02-2019 8:04am

Gomzu wrote: »

Is anyone else just absolutely wrecked? This is hopefully my last two but I just seem to have lost the will to study &#55357;&#56877;

Wrecked with no will to study either. It honestly feels like i am learning nothing. I am so sick of FE1s. Cant wait until they're over.

lisac223 · 20-02-2019 9:50am

Leraf wrote: »

Wrecked with no will to study either. It honestly feels like i am learning nothing. I am so sick of FE1s. Cant wait until they're over.

How many do you have left? This is my first time sitting and I already can't wait to be done! It's gonna be a loooong year

lawlad101 · 20-02-2019 10:57am

Does anyone have any grids/answers for Constitutional or Contract? I have stuff for Criminal, Equity, Property and EU if you wanna PM me.

nimcdona · 20-02-2019 1:25pm

does anyone know whats the story with bringing the acts in? Where to hand them in the day before?

And also are you able to highlight and tab them and just not write on them?
Or do they have to be completely untouched?

Worried about having things highlighted and being told I can't bring it in then

starfishxxo · 20-02-2019 1:43pm

You can highlight and underline (no problem with using different colours) and use tabs, but no writing.

It's usually sign posted in the Red Cow where they are to be handed in before 1pm the day before. If you hand in your legislation on the morning of the exam, they will usually bring it to your desk in the first half hour, if not already there before the exam starts.

nimcdona wrote: »

does anyone know whats the story with bringing the acts in? Where to hand them in the day before?

And also are you able to highlight and tab them and just not write on them?
Or do they have to be completely untouched?

Worried about having things highlighted and being told I can't bring it in then

nimcdona · 20-02-2019 1:58pm

starfishxxo wrote: »

You can highlight and underline (no problem with using different colours) and use tabs, but no writing.

It's usually sign posted in the Red Cow where they are to be handed in before 1pm the day before. If you hand in your legislation on the morning of the exam, they will usually bring it to your desk in the first half hour, if not already there before the exam starts.

Oh thats great, thanks for that!

iamanengine · 20-02-2019 6:51pm

Does anyone have an up to date grid for Criminal? I can trade for lots of other stuff!

Breacnua · 20-02-2019 8:01pm

iamanengine wrote: »

Does anyone have an up to date grid for Criminal? I can trade for lots of other stuff!

looking for the same
I have other subjects if neeeded

Breacnua · 20-02-2019 8:18pm

nimcdona wrote: »

does anyone know whats the story with bringing the acts in? Where to hand them in the day before?

And also are you able to highlight and tab them and just not write on them?
Or do they have to be completely untouched?

Worried about having things highlighted and being told I can't bring it in then

hightlighting and Tabbing the pg is ok

Nothing more than that tho !

Supreme!Fox · 20-02-2019 8:32pm

Could somebody explain the criminal law defence of intoxication to me? Specifically what mens rea is required for voluntary and involuntary intoxication. (specific and basic intent)

Also, would it be fine to ignore the Procedure, Detention and Bail chapter if covering everything else, or do people normally tie that chapter in when advising clients at the end of each problem q?

bigtophat13 · 20-02-2019 8:52pm

Supreme!Fox wrote: »

Could somebody explain the criminal law defence of intoxication to me? Specifically what mens rea is required for voluntary and involuntary intoxication. (specific and basic intent)

Also, would it be fine to ignore the Procedure, Detention and Bail chapter if covering everything else, or do people normally tie that chapter in when advising clients at the end of each problem q?

I think the best way to break it down is to look at voluntary intoxication in the most detail. If you become intoxicated by your own will, the courts have been inclined to say that you cannot form the intent for specific intent offences, murder being the obvious one, off the top of my head I suppose making or causing a loss by deception would be an outfield one too and a couple more dishonesty based ones. The exception is where you intentionally get yourself drunk for dutch courage as per AG for NI v Gallagher.

Basic intent you can be held liable for because one need only be reckless for basic intent offences. Manslaughter is usually from an unlawful act which is dangerous (gross negligence too of course). So assault causing harm would be strict liability for example and serious harm has the possibility to be caused recklessly. If you do one of those while drunk and they end up dead you can and likely will be held liable for the manslaughter. In R v Caldwell this came up where they held he could be convicted for the reckless arson but not for the intention to harm arson as that required specific intent so that's a good case to differentiate. Australia have done away with the distinction as being arbitrary but as per DPP v John Reilly though the court expressed reservations we still follow distinction like the English.

Regarding Innocent intoxication that'll only happen if you're spiked or you take a drug following the doctors orders without awareness it would cause the reaction it did. In DPP v Majewski the guy took 200 pills and assaulted a few people so he was liable whereas in R v Hardie he took valium to calm himself down and had an adverse reaction and became aggressive so it was held that he couldn't expect that.

Essentially the policy reason behind it all is you can't become intoxicated and act with wanton disregard of law and that was pretty much the logic stated in AG v Manning regarding men "giving in to their passions" or something like that.

Regarding that chapter:
It's a nasty boring area and I don't want to answer on it. There's often a question disguised as a problem but its essentially an essay where the client says tell me everything about detention, arrest and my right to silence. But on top of that there might be a question where at the end of the offences committed he throws in that he's out on bail at the time. Another year there was 2 questions that brought it in and another on the courts specifically so I'd recommend having a barebones knowledge on it. I'm tryna have 3/4 cases for each area, an idea of bail and then be able to talk about the Special Criminal court with 5 or 6 cases just in case.

BemusedKettle · 20-02-2019 8:56pm

Would it be possible to leave everything for contract (and I mean everything) to do between the evening of the 15th and the morning of the 21st?

I'm a dab hand at cramming but I'm still writing up my other four subjects haha (sob)

Contract is fairly easy to learn going from my undergrad, but I've no idea about the scope and predictability of the course

sapphire309 · 20-02-2019 9:42pm

Anybody still working full time and still have about half your notes left to make? Misery loves company

Vegetarian2017 · 20-02-2019 10:09pm

BemusedKettle wrote:

Would it be possible to leave everything for contract (and I mean everything) to do between the evening of the 15th and the morning of the 21st?

BemusedKettle wrote:

I'm a dab hand at cramming but I'm still writing up my other four subjects haha (sob)

BemusedKettle wrote:

Contract is fairly easy to learn going from my undergrad, but I've no idea about the scope and predictability of the course

If you have the notes done and condensed page notes that is almost six days plenty of time!!
Correct me if I'm wrong but alot if people are writing notes up to the last few days before first exam then the cramming commences giving themselves 2 or 3 days for each topic roughly.

LawGirl3434 · 20-02-2019 10:15pm

People doing courts for criminal, how many cases do you have roughly?

BemusedKettle · 20-02-2019 10:21pm

Vegetarian2017 wrote: »

If you have the notes done and condensed page notes that is almost six days plenty of time!!
Correct me if I'm wrong but alot if people are writing notes up to the last few days before first exam then the cramming commences giving themselves 2 or 3 days for each topic roughly.

You give me life

bigtophat13 · 20-02-2019 10:30pm

LawGirl3434 wrote: »

People doing courts for criminal, how many cases do you have roughly?

10 on the dot, mainly SCC

lawless11 · 20-02-2019 10:56pm

sapphire309 wrote: »

Anybody still working full time and still have about half your notes left to make? Misery loves company

This gives me hope too! You are not alone.

Leraf · 21-02-2019 9:04am

lawless11 wrote: »

This gives me hope too! You are not alone.

sapphire309 wrote: »

Anybody still working full time and still have about half your notes left to make? Misery loves company

Working full time and will do so until the exams

. One thing I will say is that the night before some exams I knew not one case and cried, the next morning I crammed before the exam and I passed. On some exams I was writing notes the day before the exam and cramming information into my brain the morning before the exam.

Concentrate on understanding everything. You can cram case names in in little time before the exam.

Everyone wants to be organised and sleep well the night before the exam and know all they need to when they go in but trust me, everyone is in a panic right up until the moment they walk into that room and if anyone tells you they feel ready and prepared, I would guess they are the opposite.

lawlad101 · 21-02-2019 10:22am

Leraf wrote: »

Working full time and will do so until the exams . One thing I will say is that the night before some exams I knew not one case and cried, the next morning I crammed before the exam and I passed. On some exams I was writing notes the day before the exam and cramming information into my brain the morning before the exam.

Concentrate on understanding everything. You can cram case names in in little time before the exam.

Everyone wants to be organised and sleep well the night before the exam and know all they need to when they go in but trust me, everyone is in a panic right up until the moment they walk into that room and if anyone tells you they feel ready and prepared, I would guess they are the opposite.

Yeah that's the thing, it seems to be panic panic panic in the weeks before and then on the day it just sort of all comes together :pac:

z6vm1dobfnca3x · 21-02-2019 10:27am

Leraf wrote: »

Concentrate on understanding everything.

Couldn't agree more. No point in learning hundreds of cases off by heart if you don't understand their relevance.

Remember, we need to be able to apply these cases...

I'm guilty of this myself so I always need to remind myself to understand things first. Once you understand the reasoning, it's 10x easier to memorise this stuff.

My guess is that it's more beneficial to know and understand 50% of the cases and be able to apply them effectively than it is to know hundreds of cases without knowing their relevance.

clearsky99 · 21-02-2019 11:32am

Does anyone have a tort grid that they wouldn’t mind sharing with me please?

scooby321 · 21-02-2019 12:04pm

Does anyone have the Independent predicted topics for Constitutional by any chance? Running out of time so I'm going to try to focus on about 7/8 topics hopefully

holliek · 21-02-2019 1:22pm

bigtophat13 wrote: »

10 on the dot, mainly SCC

I don't have any, I can't see any in the manual

bigtophat13 · 21-02-2019 1:42pm

holliek wrote: »

I don't have any, I can't see any in the manual

SCC

DPP v Pringle
DPP v Kavanagh
DPP v John Dundon
Gilligan v SCC
McElhineney v SCC

Court of Appeal:
Wayne Dundon case - DPP wanted harsher sentence. Didn't get it
DPP v Wall - called miscarriage of justice

Yohnathan · 21-02-2019 2:49pm

sapphire309 wrote: »

Anybody still working full time and still have about half your notes left to make? Misery loves company

Yes! I have to start Constitutional notes!

z6vm1dobfnca3x · 21-02-2019 4:53pm

With such a large number of topics to cover, are you guys studying two subjects per day? i.e. Criminal & Tort on a Monday, Equity & Property on the Tuesday, back to Criminal & Tort on the Wednesday etc.?

lawless11 · 21-02-2019 6:11pm

In relation to unconstitutionally obtained evidence, my manual has 'Casual' link - is it correct or is it supposed to be 'Causal' link? Thanks.

jamesob123 · 22-02-2019 5:33am

Hi folks - am I right in saying that we cannot bring in any legislation into the Tort exam?

I'm fairly certain that's the case

Supermax1988 · 22-02-2019 9:16am

lawless11 wrote: »

In relation to unconstitutionally obtained evidence, my manual has 'Casual' link - is it correct or is it supposed to be 'Causal' link? Thanks.

Should be Causal

jamesob123 wrote: »

Hi folks - am I right in saying that we cannot bring in any legislation into the Tort exam?

I'm fairly certain that's the case

Yep, no legislation for Tort.

Fe1hayes · 22-02-2019 9:46am

What are people doing for contract? I have written notes and rewriting them now always how I learn but overwhelmed by the amount of cases also in her reports she sounds like a very tough maker! Any tips welcomed.
Also if anyone has guidance in what they are doing for EU would be great too.

Kallyann1 · 22-02-2019 10:19am

Does anybody have any predictions for Constitutional? It is very big and overwhelming! going to try cut down.

frankiejoepat · 22-02-2019 12:21pm

When will the results for this sitting be released?

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