Full Ironman in cork next year

madasken · 16-07-2018 3:36pm

Drove the Ironman cycle leg yesterday - someone has kindly marked the route with the IM symbol in red with arrows. This is painted on the road.
Agree with what has been said about the route so far.
Train well and it will be fine

Twinkles · 17-07-2018 2:42pm

madasken wrote: »

Drove the Ironman cycle leg yesterday - someone has kindly marked the route with the IM symbol in red with arrows. This is painted on the road.
Agree with what has been said about the route so far.
Train well and it will be fine

Would you consider it a tough/hilly/technical course??? Are the roads as bad as everyone says??

Haven’t signed up yet. Seriously considering it- but the cycle seems to be getting a bit of bad press.

I’m not afraid of a FEW hills!!!!

madasken · 17-07-2018 2:52pm

Some of the hills would be considered tough - but then you have to earn the right to be called an Ironman!!! and if you're not afraid of them then go for it!
Few technical down hills.
Overall I think it will be an enjoyable enough cycle once you have the work put in.

Parts of the roads, as previous posts mentioned, are in woeful condition but these will have to be repaired.

I'd recommend driving the course if you can, if you are still undecided. Or else just bite the bullet and register - sometimes the unknown is better

Twinkles · 17-07-2018 6:49pm

madasken wrote: »

Some of the hills would be considered tough - but then you have to earn the right to be called an Ironman!!! and if you're not afraid of them then go for it!
Few technical down hills.
Overall I think it will be an enjoyable enough cycle once you have the work put in.

Parts of the roads, as previous posts mentioned, are in woeful condition but these will have to be repaired.

I'd recommend driving the course if you can, if you are still undecided. Or else just bite the bullet and register - sometimes the unknown is better

Just registered!!!

Will definitely get down a few times and cycle the route!!! Thanks for the info!

Cona · 19-07-2018 10:19pm

Prob going to cycle one lap of the course soon (90k). Not overly familiar with the route, would it be clearly marked or would I need to know every turn intimately before starting?

joeKel73 · 26-07-2018 11:36am

Do people expect this to sell out? And when..?

It's a long-term goal to do a full IM and this is tempting. Not sure if I'd be ready for June 2019 though, might be best to see how the Winter training goes and make a call around Feb... if it doesn't sell out before then.

Did two half IMs in 2016 but backed off in 2017. Started ramping up again this year with the Sheephaven Half in June but dropped out after the bike with the heat that week (got sick on the bike, couldn't keep water down and came in very dehydrated). After that experience I want to avoid a hot location for a full IM so Cork may actually be a good option, ignoring the odd heat wave.

Cork in 2020 would probably suit best but this could end up being a once-off like Challenge Galway.

Diego Murphy · 26-07-2018 12:00pm

J o e wrote: »

Do people expect this to sell out? And when..?

It's a long-term goal to do a full IM and this is tempting. Not sure if I'd be ready for June 2019 though, might be best to see how the Winter training goes and make a call around Feb... if it doesn't sell out before then.

Did two half IMs in 2016 but backed off in 2017. Started ramping up again this year with the Sheephaven Half in June but dropped out after the bike with the heat that week (got sick on the bike, couldn't keep water down and came in very dehydrated). After that experience I want to avoid a hot location for a full IM so Cork may actually be a good option, ignoring the odd heat wave.

Cork in 2020 would probably suit best but this could end up being a once-off like Challenge Galway.

From the interest down here I think it will ultimately sell out. A lot of ppl will wait and see how the winter goes.

Having said that, you'll get plenty of warning as the different price categories sell out so you won't miss out all of a sudden.

They've signed a 3 year contract for youghal so it won't be a one off.

joeKel73 · 26-07-2018 12:01pm

Diego Murphy wrote: »

They've signed a 3 year contract for youghal so it won't be a one off.

Interesting, didn't know this.

valoren · 27-07-2018 9:27am

J o e wrote: »

Interesting, didn't know this.

Did the same with Tenby in Wales i.e. 3 year contract. It's now an annual event since the first race in 2011.

Cona · 19-08-2018 1:01am

Drove part of the course this evening, from Midleton until you turn right for Youghal. Some long gradual pulls on this section but followed by steep technical descent. The roads are in awful condition, hopefully the council will sort them but I can't see a complete resurfacing being done, more likely just patching of the holes. Unfortunately the road surface is very bumpy so the descents could be fairly hairy....

RacoonQueen · 21-08-2018 9:46pm

Thinking of going down to do a lap and suss out the bike course in the next few weeks. Is there a GPX of the route anywhere?

rodneyr1981 · 22-08-2018 1:46pm

RacoonQueen wrote: »

Thinking of going down to do a lap and suss out the bike course in the next few weeks. Is there a GPX of the route anywhere?

Would be very interested in your views if you do it

Cona · 22-08-2018 3:08pm

The cycle course is summed up quite easily.

- One steep but short hill at the beginning as you leave Youghal town (around 5km mark. This will prob get marketed as Heartbreak Hill and have a good atmosphere as people shout and cheer the athletes on to get up it. Cycle hard into it, get up off the saddle and push and you'll clear it in no time...

- the Next 50Km or so is pretty flat along the coast on country roads. One or two small pulls but nothing terrible. Should be able to hold a decent pace along this part.

- Once you pass through Midleton, around 55Km mark, the next 20-25 Km is the hardest part of the course. Again, nothing very steep but just a long gradual pull upwards. Will be tiring on the 2nd pass no doubt....

- Once you hit the top of the course, from around 75Km, there are some long sharp and steep descents back down into Youghal. This part will be quite technical. These are mostly narrow, country roads where speeds will be quite high. The current state of the roads is appalling and would be terrifying to race down in its current state. I don't think there is a hope in hell that the council will re-lay these roads as they are very much secondary roads. Filling the potholes wont be sufficient as the road is very bumpy as is...

- Once back into Youghal, basically start all over again.

Overall I think its a decent course with fast enough sections.

butrasgali · 24-08-2018 5:45pm

I just drove the coast road today..I presume both sides of the road will be closed for traffic on all the route..if not ,it would be dangerous..

jnk883 · 20-10-2018 5:24pm

Current talk

Latest draft of Bike route.
Key changes:
- Windmill Hill removed from start of Lap 1 but now at end of lap 1 and 2 instead from Ashe Street meaning a sharper turn onto it and no run-in to the climb.
- New leg added after Cloyne to make up for the loss of the hill on lap 1. This is a beautiful stretch on good rpoads and has some amazing scenic views of Cork Harbour
- Aid/Feed stations going in at Garryvoe (22/112k), Midleton Distillery (50/140K) and Inch Soccer Club (~75/165K)

This has yet to be finally signed-off but for now it's a close as matters to the finished product.

https://ridewithgps.com/routes/28741578?privacy_code=hyE9GAZhUS2ym3kP&fbclid=IwAR1kkmbKbM1RSIoJ9FHvExHBuKPvP014ytEWQMBKZ47KH6CSI9qjcyKBSN0

Some minor changes to the run route expect as well

joeKel73 · 22-10-2018 4:27pm

Diego Murphy wrote: »

Having said that, you'll get plenty of warning as the different price categories sell out so you won't miss out all of a sudden.

Just checked in on this again and see that Tiers 1-3 are now sold out with only Tier 4 left. Heads up for anyone intent on taking part but haven't registered yet.

Diego Murphy · 22-10-2018 8:40pm

J o e wrote: »

Just checked in on this again and see that Tiers 1-3 are now sold out with only Tier 4 left. Heads up for anyone intent on taking part but haven't registered yet.

Great to see that it's down to tier 4. The event will definitely sell out.

rodneyr1981 · 22-10-2018 8:45pm

Looks like time to get off fence so. The start list shows ~1200 high does not include those who used the payment instalment option

Diego Murphy · 22-10-2018 8:48pm

rodneyr1981 wrote: »

Looks like time to get off fence so. The start list shows ~1200 high does not include those who used the payment instalment option

Is there a start list floating around already?

rodneyr1981 · 22-10-2018 8:52pm

Diego Murphy wrote: »

Is there a start list floating around already?

Yup up on IM cork website under Athletes tab

Diego Murphy · 20-11-2018 10:53pm

Only 120 entries left

Cona · 21-11-2018 11:15am

Sell out is imminent. Didn't think it would. Bit the bullet myself, all in for my first IM

Marty Bird · 22-11-2018 9:50pm

Down to the last 50 entry’s now.

Marty Bird · 26-11-2018 3:53pm

Sold out..

Shedite27 · 30-12-2018 9:59am

https://twitter.com/ironmanvoice/status/1078797968403120128?s=21

Pretty cool that they got him for his one trip to Europe next year

tunney · 30-12-2018 11:00am

Shedite27 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/ironmanvoice/status/1078797968403120128?s=21

Pretty cool that they got him for his one trip to Europe next year

Sure will be mostly Americans anyways:)

numorouno · 30-12-2018 11:22am

He was at the half in Galway the first year I think

RacoonQueen · 01-01-2019 3:14pm

tunney wrote: »

Sure will be mostly Americans anyways:)

They're very excited about it over on Facebook.

valoren · 02-01-2019 10:22am

The road around the old Perks/train station by the Strand has been relaid. It was in poor condition and is part of the run route.

Diego Murphy · 02-01-2019 10:32am

valoren wrote: »

The road around the old Perks/train station by the Strand has been relaid. It was in poor condition and is part of the run route.

I'd imagine the road by east ferry will get done too on the cycle route. Its in terrible condition and I'd imagine the locals have been pushing for it to be done for a good while. Not sure what the bike route beyond dungourney towards youghal is like.

reidman · 03-01-2019 12:54pm

Mike Reilly did TX when I was there in April, great guy and good to have him for Cork, does a nice job for finishers, especially later on when you go back to bring in the very late finishers. I listened to this to pass the time on a long training run, maybe some of you will find it interesting. Good luck with training for Cork!

https://www.yogitriathlete.com/podcast-100-mike-reilly-on-being-the-cause-of-your-own-experience-and-the-healing-power-of-the-ironman-family/

Cona · 05-01-2019 1:01am

Folks, what do you guys normally wear for full distance? Do you go for outfit changes at each leg or just one full tri suit all the way?

I'm thinking I need to buy a tri suit, any tips on the best one for long distance?

Diego Murphy · 05-01-2019 1:06am

Cona wrote: »

Folks, what do you guys normally wear for full distance? Do you go for outfit changes at each leg or just one full tri suit all the way?

I'm thinking I need to buy a tri suit, any tips on the best one for long distance?

I wear a two piece Tri suit for ironman distance. Used 2xu which was comfortable but wore incredibly badly and had to be replaced by them twice, so don't go with them! Two piece is much easier for any toilet stops.

For the run, I did change from tri shorts to normal running shorts. Just feels much more comfortable and you don't lose any time doing that. There's a lot to me said for the feeling of some fresh gear.

RacoonQueen · 05-01-2019 10:56pm

I see they are already preparing themselves for walking up the hills on the bike course over on the Facebook group.

tunney · 05-01-2019 11:19pm

RacoonQueen wrote: »

I see they are already preparing themselves for walking up the hills on the bike course over on the Facebook group.

We have real mountains in Ireland it appears....

g0g · 06-01-2019 12:44am

What Facebook page/group does all this discussion happen in?

Shell to Run · 06-01-2019 3:22pm

g0g wrote: »

What Facebook page/group does all this discussion happen in?

https://www.facebook.com/groups/252238791999738/?fref=nf

Macaonbhuit · 07-01-2019 10:06pm

Couple of questions regarding the ‘final’ bike route...
Is the road surface any better on the rerouted section from saleen to Midleton?
Is windmill hill now at the end of each loop?

Nemanrio · 07-01-2019 10:29pm

Is there a detailed link to the cycling route being used?

butrasgali · 10-01-2019 12:33pm

Has anyone got up windmill hill with a 39 front and 28 rear comfortable..just wondering is that enough

Macaonbhuit · 10-01-2019 2:13pm

butrasgali wrote: »

Has anyone got up windmill hill with a 39 front and 28 rear comfortable..just wondering is that enough

Just a 34 / 28 for me. Not sure I’d say comfortable. I’ll be hitting on the day With 36/30

griffin100 · 10-01-2019 2:35pm

Does anyone know roughly how many metres of climbing there are on the bike course?

g0g · 10-01-2019 3:34pm

griffin100 wrote: »

Does anyone know roughly how many metres of climbing there are on the bike course?

Approx 2,000 according to a Strava route I saw

rxchxy · 10-01-2019 3:40pm

griffin100 wrote: »

Does anyone know roughly how many metres of climbing there are on the bike course?

Just over 2000m according to this https://www.plotaroute.com/routeprofile/615133

hf4z6sqo7vjngi · 10-01-2019 6:03pm

butrasgali wrote: »

Has anyone got up windmill hill with a 39 front and 28 rear comfortable..just wondering is that enough

Macaonbhuit wrote: »

Just a 34 / 28 for me. Not sure I’d say comfortable. I’ll be hitting on the day With 36/30

https://veloviewer.com/segment/705325/Windmill+Hill,+Youghal,+Cork,+Ireland.

Am i missing something, its only 400mtrs long? Why on earth would you need that sort of gearing, its not the Alps you guys are climbing. The spacing with your gearing with a 30 on the back will be awful.

I honestly cannot think of any climb in Ireland (long enough) to warrant that sort of gearing.

Shedite27 · 10-01-2019 9:52pm

rxchxy wrote: »

Just over 2000m according to this https://www.plotaroute.com/routeprofile/615133

That's mad, more climbing in Ironman Cork (on the flat side of the county) than Ironman Austria (in the Alps)

griffin100 · 10-01-2019 9:58pm

Anthony Old-fashioned Bagel wrote: »

https://veloviewer.com/segment/705325/Windmill+Hill,+Youghal,+Cork,+Ireland.

Am i missing something, its only 400mtrs long? Why on earth would you need that sort of gearing, its not the Alps you guys are climbing. The spacing with your gearing with a 30 on the back will be awful.

I honestly cannot think of any climb in Ireland (long enough) to warrant that sort of gearing.

You’ve never gone up to the mast on Mt Leinster so

2000m climbing is very manageable over 180km. Very similar to the ROK and Tour De KK.

Macaonbhuit · 11-01-2019 9:46am

Anthony Old-fashioned Bagel wrote: »

https://veloviewer.com/segment/705325/Windmill+Hill,+Youghal,+Cork,+Ireland.

Am i missing something, its only 400mtrs long? Why on earth would you need that sort of gearing, its not the Alps you guys are climbing. The spacing with your gearing with a 30 on the back will be awful.

I honestly cannot think of any climb in Ireland (long enough) to warrant that sort of gearing.

You underestimate my poor cycling ability. And my unwillingness to spend any money changing anything on my new bike.

valoren · 25-01-2019 12:59pm

Bike Course finalised.

https://ridewithgps.com/routes/28858071

The poor surface from Mount Uniacke thankfully looks to be cut going via Inch on what looks a consistent surface.

Windmill Hill taken via Church Street.

Brendan Hennessy · 13-02-2019 6:12pm

Hi all,

OldVelos are writing an occassional blog on sections of the Route,

http://www.oldvelos.com/the-ironman-ireland-route-miles-40-49/

http://www.oldvelos.com/the-ironman-ireland-route/ (miles 30-40)

Cheers,

Brendan

Full Ironman in cork next year

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