UFC Fight Night Events Thread - Spoilers Within

eagle eye · 15-09-2019 9:59am

ricero wrote:

Gaethje should wait it out and fight the winner of khabib vs Tony.

He goes no.4 after last night. McGregor is ahead of him.

ricero · 15-09-2019 10:14am

eagle eye wrote: »

He goes no.4 after last night. McGregor is ahead of him.

Think Mcgregor has to win a fight to even be considered.

Gaethje is on a tear, three first round ko's in a row and a fan-friendly fighter.

rob316 · 15-09-2019 10:25am

Cowboy fights too much that's his biggest problem, trying to be a company man and he's really a punch bag for the higher ranked guys. He took a beating off Ferguson only 2 months ago and you can gaurantee he'll fight again before the end of the year.

He's not an elite fighter, he can't take himself seriously so don't know why anyone else would.

Brussels Sprout · 15-09-2019 10:45am

eagle eye wrote: »

He goes no.4 after last night. McGregor is ahead of him.

In the entirely subjective rankings compiled by a collection of people whose knowledge is questionable at best.

Beersmith · 15-09-2019 10:46am

Still Ill wrote: »

Why didn't he take the full five though? Weird.

There is no 5min for an eye poke. Ref should have actually called the doctor in earlier.

Richard tea · 15-09-2019 2:07pm

ricero wrote: »

Gaethje is an animal. McGregor doesn't want to go anywhere near him as he knows he will end the hype once and for all.

Gaethje should wait it out and fight the winner of khabib vs Tony.

You think Mcgregor wouldnt be able to pick Gaethje apart?

If that fight does happen I say its the first time we will see Gaethje use his wrestling

mailburner · 15-09-2019 2:11pm

Richard tea wrote: »

You think Mcgregor wouldnt be able to pick Gaethje apart?

If that fight does happen I say its the first time we will see Gaethje use his wrestling

He'd have some success early on I reckon given he can take a punch and I believe justin will keep it standing.
How long he could hang with justin is what I'm unsure of.

It would be a great fight if it ever happened.

mailburner · 15-09-2019 2:27pm

This is something else for connelly to be fair, that 1lb pereira was over
worked out to be a costly one but what a debut that was.
I'd imagine it'll be a long time before he sees a payday like this again.

Tristan Connelly: $125,900 ($10,000 to show, $10,000 win bonus, $2,400 from Pereira for missing weight, $100,000 Fight of the Night bonus, $3,500 fight week incentive pay)

US2 · 15-09-2019 4:12pm

Whelo79 wrote: »

McGregor is going to be fuming that he got blanked in another post fight interview. He's becoming more and more irrelevant with each passing week.

Irrelevant yet almost every post here mentions him

mangobob · 15-09-2019 5:37pm

Richard tea wrote: »

You think Mcgregor wouldnt be able to pick Gaethje apart?

If that fight does happen I say its the first time we will see Gaethje use his wrestling

Personally I feel that prime Conor, the one who knocked out Aldo and embarrassed Alvarez would be a serious proposition for Gaethje. He had incredible timing, accuracy and a really dangerous left hand. He can also fight going backwards and had a mental warfare game second to none. 2015/16 Conor would have stopped Gaethje whose approach at that time was simply to wade forward like a zombie and batter his opponents into submission without any regard for his own safety. There is just no way you could have given Conor that many opportunities to hit you and survived.

But I believe the version of Mcgregor that showed up against Khabib would get demolished. He has been out of the game for so long and stagnated or even regressed, while others like JG have stayed active and actually improved. The latter is on a tear at the moment and has real momentum while CM has fought once in the last 3 years and got destroyed. I know its a cliche at this stage, but all that early success and money really seems to have sated his hunger and derailed his mma career. I could be wrong, but I think Conor gets smoked by any of Khabib, Tony or Justin. As much as I loved the old Conor, I think the Mcregor era is clearly over.

Axwell · 15-09-2019 5:42pm

Posts moved - Use this thread for ALL Fight Night Events (Not main UFC cards) and if you are going to post event spoilers at least do it in here, it's not that hard!

Frank Bullitt · 15-09-2019 6:58pm

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Had a great time at my first ever UFC event. Fight of the night was easily Connolly, the crowd were loving that one.

Vegas next for me for a big event.

Mellor · 16-09-2019 12:56am

eagle eye wrote: »

Do you know Conor, is that how he reacts if he is not mentioned?

It's just the narrative that people have invented.

ricero wrote: »

Gaethje is an animal. McGregor doesn't want to go anywhere near him as he knows he will end the hype once and for all.

Gaethje should wait it out and fight the winner of khabib vs Tony.

Why would Gaethje duck out the massive payday, expecially if it's an easy fight as you say.

Of course, the whole "X is a different animal" was rolled out many times in the past.

ricero wrote: »

Think Mcgregor has to win a fight to even be considered.

Absolutely, even if it was availible, jumping straight back in would be a bad idea.

mailburner wrote: »

This is something else for connelly to be fair, that 1lb pereira was over
worked out to be a costly one but what a debut that was.
I'd imagine it'll be a long time before he sees a payday like this again.

Tristan Connelly: $125,900 ($10,000 to show, $10,000 win bonus, $2,400 from Pereira for missing weight, $100,000 Fight of the Night bonus, $3,500 fight week incentive pay)

Almost 10x what he average expected earnings were.
That's such a career booster at that stage.

magic_murph · 16-09-2019 9:52am

rob316 wrote: »

Cowboy fights too much that's his biggest problem, trying to be a company man and he's really a punch bag for the higher ranked guys. He took a beating off Ferguson only 2 months ago and you can gaurantee he'll fight again before the end of the year.

He's not an elite fighter, he can't take himself seriously so don't know why anyone else would.

crazy statement to make

rob316 · 16-09-2019 9:58am

magic_murph wrote: »

crazy statement to make

Depends on what your definition is, to me he's not a top 5 title contender that to me is elite.

magic_murph · 16-09-2019 10:04am

rob316 wrote: »

Depends on what your definition is, to me he's not a top 5 title contender that to me is elite.

In my opinion your version of elite is flawed but each to their own.

riffmongous · 16-09-2019 5:29pm

rob316 wrote: »

Depends on what your definition is, to me he's not a top 5 title contender that to me is elite.

Yeah he's the guy who loses to the guys I would consider elite (at the UFC level of course)

callaway92 · 16-09-2019 5:31pm

Agreed

Cowboy isn’t, and has never been ‘elite’

Is a very game fighter but was never at the top level

Beersmith · 16-09-2019 5:34pm

Disagree, of course he is top level. Has he been the very best no.

callaway92 · 16-09-2019 6:21pm

Beersmith wrote: »

Disagree, of course he is top level. Has he been the very best no.

Sorry now - but who has he ever beaten that’s elite?

His win over Ben Henderson was a bad one for Henderson off the back of losing the title

His win over Alvarez was his first UFC fight and it turns out Alvarez isn’t all that anyway.

He’s a consistent failure when a big fight is put up in front of him.

Beersmith · 16-09-2019 7:53pm

So you just give some examples of him beating former champs but just make excuses for those wins. Jasus. Probably most of the champs in history weren't elite either in your eyes. Who the hell is elite then? 2 or 3 fighters in the world and that is it?

callaway92 · 16-09-2019 8:02pm

Beersmith wrote: »

So you just give some examples of him beating former champs but just make excuses for those wins. Jasus. Probably most of the champs in history weren't elite either in your eyes. Who the hell is elite then? 2 or 3 fighters in the world and that is it?

Sorry, what?

Ok, go on so - What has he done/who has he beaten to be considered elite? Fighting a million times and being a company-man doesn’t make him ‘elite’ I’d have thought.

Elite = Khabib, Jon Jones, Amanda Nunes, Max Holloway, Daniel Cormier, Henry Cejudo, Demetrious Johnson etc

To be even considered elite you have to have been a Champion imo.

rob316 · 16-09-2019 8:29pm

He's lost 6 of his last 10 fights.

callaway92 · 16-09-2019 8:35pm

rob316 wrote: »

He's lost 6 of his last 10 fights.

I’ll half defend Cerrone that he’s obv been past his best for a long time - so even his last 10 fights was past his best.

I was at the fight in Gdańsk against Till and thought Cerrone completely phoned it in.

However, in saying that, he always tossed between wins and losses.

Not ‘elite’

Mellor · 16-09-2019 10:50pm

It looks like everyone is in agreement about Cowboys ability and are only arguing about the definition of elite.

Macdarack · 16-09-2019 11:00pm

Is Robbie lawler elite or was he elite , does his last 5 fight record suggest he's headed down the same road as cowboy? His only win in the last 5 was against cowboy too.

callaway92 · 17-09-2019 6:51am

Macdarack wrote: »

Is Robbie lawler elite or was he elite , does his last 5 fight record suggest he's headed down the same road as cowboy? His only win in the last 5 was against cowboy too.

Was

He was a champion and defended it multiple times.

Beersmith · 17-09-2019 8:03am

callaway92 wrote: »

Was

He was a champion and defended it multiple times.

Seems like your definition of elite is if they are champ. Some divisions are more talented than others and my definition of elite is wider than yours it seems. I think your definition is a bit too tight.

Wayne Jarvis · 17-09-2019 8:19am

Speaking of Robbie Lawler he will be fighting Ponzinibbio at UFC 245. My money is on Ponzinibbio.

Whelo79 · 17-09-2019 8:35am

It's ridiculous to think someone is only elite if they win the title.

Elite: a select group that is superior in terms of ability or qualities to the rest of a group or society.

Key word their is GROUP.

callaway92 · 17-09-2019 8:39am

Beersmith wrote: »

Seems like your definition of elite is if they are champ. Some divisions are more talented than others and my definition of elite is wider than yours it seems. I think your definition is a bit too tight.

elite
/eɪˈliːt,ɪˈliːt/
Learn to pronounce
noun
1.
a select group that is superior in terms of ability or qualities to the rest of a group or society.

I would say all people that are/have been champions should thus be considered 'elite'.

You can interpret the broadness of it, but it starts with Champions/past Champions

PS: I did not say it's only Champions anywhere - Quote it if I did. They were just examples.

rob316 · 17-09-2019 8:48am

Jesus I didn't realize me using the word elite would cause such debate!

callaway92 · 17-09-2019 8:58am

rob316 wrote: »

Jesus I didn't realize me using the word elite would cause such debate!

Stop - My head is fried. It's mostly because Beersmith is getting ratty and defensive. He hasn't given one reasoning for what he believes to be 'elite' but instead is just nitpicking at words.

magic_murph · 17-09-2019 10:00am

callaway92 wrote: »

Sorry, what?

Ok, go on so - What has he done/who has he beaten to be considered elite? Fighting a million times and being a company-man doesn’t make him ‘elite’ I’d have thought.

Elite = Khabib, Jon Jones, Amanda Nunes, Max Holloway, Daniel Cormier, Henry Cejudo, Demetrious Johnson etc

To be even considered elite you have to have been a Champion imo.

Ridiculous statement.

magic_murph · 17-09-2019 10:03am

callaway92 wrote: »

elite
/eɪˈliːt,ɪˈliːt/
Learn to pronounce
noun
1.
a select group that is superior in terms of ability or qualities to the rest of a group or society.

I would say all people that are/have been champions should thus be considered 'elite'.

You can interpret the broadness of it, but it starts with Champions/past Champions

PS: I did not say it's only Champions anywhere - Quote it if I did. They were just examples.

By this logic Brock Lesner is an Elite MMA fighter. (Which is obviously isn't)

magic_murph · 17-09-2019 10:04am

anybody in the top 10 of either weight division is absolutely elite.
Granted that within that top 10 you will have guys that are just levels better - the super elite if you like.

Beersmith · 17-09-2019 10:16am

callaway92 wrote: »

Stop - My head is fried. It's mostly because Beersmith is getting ratty and defensive. He hasn't given one reasoning for what he believes to be 'elite' but instead is just nitpicking at words.

Wasn't getting ratty at all. I don't HAVE to bow to your demands in my replies. Just stated my case that I don't agree with your strict elite definition. Fine you think the way you do,i just disagree. Happy to leave it at that.

callaway92 · 17-09-2019 1:46pm

magic_murph wrote: »

anybody in the top 10 of either weight division is absolutely elite.
Granted that within that top 10 you will have guys that are just levels better - the super elite if you like.

Personal interpretation of the word 'elite' so.

We'll leave it there so.

mailburner · 21-09-2019 11:03pm

anyone watching?

craig up next

so its a guy with 1ko 10subs 0pts wins v 1ko 8subs 0pts wins

should be interesting

The White Feather · 21-09-2019 11:42pm

mailburner wrote: »

anyone watching?

craig up next

so its a guy with 1ko 10subs 0pts wins v 1ko 8subs 0pts wins

should be interesting

Craig really needed that win didn't he? Glad he got it

SlowBlowin · 21-09-2019 11:52pm

The arms on that girl !

US2 · 22-09-2019 12:13am

Nasty elbow that was, how come doc called it off straight away , not even bitta vasaline

mailburner · 22-09-2019 12:21am

The White Feather wrote: »

Craig really needed that win didn't he? Glad he got it

same as and that he didn't nearly have to die to get it

good match up for him though, he'll find few better

mailburner · 22-09-2019 12:22am

US2 wrote: »

Nasty elbow that was, how come doc called it off straight away , not even bitta vasaline

was thinking it could have gone on but I'm far from an expert, surely we've
seen this before though?

mailburner · 22-09-2019 12:25am

Can't argue with that stoppage

SlowBlowin · 22-09-2019 12:27am

mailburner wrote: »

Can't argue with that stoppage

Took him 20 seconds to come round enough to complain to the ref..

US2 · 22-09-2019 12:35am

mailburner wrote: »

was thinking it could have gone on but I'm far from an expert, surely we've
seen this before though?

I've seen alot worse cuts and aloud to continue

US2 · 22-09-2019 1:23am

What a backfist

SlowBlowin · 22-09-2019 1:26am

That was effective, I like Herb Deans moves too..

mailburner · 22-09-2019 1:31am

peterson tough as nails

bravo set an insane pace in round one, am sure anyone who's seen
peterson fight before would know it was gonna be a long night for bravo
to go three rounds after that first one

I tried to back him 20/30 secs before the ko at 3/1 but when you're
about 30 secs behind the actual fight

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