BBQ Dog is it for you?

TCP/IP · 06-09-2019 11:22am #1

Interesting approach from PETA - Fake dog barbecued by PETA in Dublin in bid to urge people to go vegan.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/fake-dog-barbecued-by-peta-in-dublin-in-bid-to-urge-people-to-go-vegan-38467455.html

gerrybbadd · 06-09-2019 11:24am

"If you wouldn't eat a dog, why would you eat a pig?"

What a stupid statement that is. The reasons are multiple.

Unearthly · 06-09-2019 1:37pm

gerrybbadd wrote: »

"If you wouldn't eat a dog, why would you eat a pig?"

What a stupid statement that is. The reasons are multiple.

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pq0n1ct4ve8zf5 · 06-09-2019 2:42pm

In fairness, I'd imagine they taste a lot better.

That's horrendous, tbh, and I'd question its efficacy. It was on a weekday afternoon I suppose, but there could have been kids around.

There's a podcast on 98fm of the public reaction, it's about what you'd expect. A load of pissed off, upset people with another stick to beat vegans with. PETA "delighted with" the response. Great, sound lads.

TCP/IP · 06-09-2019 2:47pm

Yeah I agree the whole vegan movement is cool and hip at the moment but stunts like this will really turn people off the movement.

gerrybbadd · 06-09-2019 2:54pm

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Don't see why I should even have to but just to satiate ya.

Dogs are pets. Human's have an emotional attachment to them.

Pigs aren't pets. They're seen differently by humans.

Also, dog meat is meant to taste fúcking disguisting, regardless of the char grilling going on here. Pig meat on the other hand, is delicious

Unearthly · 06-09-2019 3:16pm

gerrybbadd wrote: »

Don't see why I should even have to but just to satiate ya.

Dogs are pets. Human's have an emotional attachment to them.

Pigs aren't pets. They're seen differently by humans.

Also, dog meat is meant to taste fúcking disguisting, regardless of the char grilling going on here. Pig meat on the other hand, is delicious

No need to be so touchy, I was just curious would you bring something new that I haven't heard before. You didn't, i have heard culture and taste before.

seamus · 06-09-2019 3:19pm

gerrybbadd wrote: »

Don't see why I should even have to but just to satiate ya.

Dogs are pets. Human's have an emotional attachment to them.

Pigs aren't pets. They're seen differently by humans.

Yeah, that's exactly the point.

The only reason you wouldn't eat a dog is because you've arbitrarily decided that it's taboo and different.

There's no ethical or logical difference between eating dogs or pigs.

06-09-2019 3:22pm

"If you wouldn't eat a dog, why would you eat a pig?"

Because pigs are made of food.
It's like saying
"If you wouldn't eat a tree,why would you eat a carrot?"

Lil Sally Anne Jnr. · 06-09-2019 3:24pm

Probably the first stunt I've seen PETA pull that I admire.

I know it's hip to look down on vegans these days, but if you're too squeamish to look at a fake dog being barbecued then you have no business eating meat, and I include children in that. Ignorance may be bliss, but hiding the truth from yourself is weak af.

meeeeh · 06-09-2019 3:26pm

What's the point in bbq-ing fake dog? They should go for the real thing if they were looking for a response.

Anyway this is new religious cult that I have no interest joining. Mostly people just interested in controlling others what they eat and what they do.

Lil Sally Anne Jnr. · 06-09-2019 3:27pm

Millie Howling Streptomycin wrote: »

That's horrendous, tbh, and I'd question its efficacy. It was on a weekday afternoon I suppose, but there could have been kids around.

It's good for children to ask questions about the world. Just because you find it disturbing, you shouldn't assume children are just as fearful.

This is what meat looks like. What's the big deal.

uck51js9zml2yt · 06-09-2019 3:32pm

seamus wrote: »

Yeah, that's exactly the point.

The only reason you wouldn't eat a dog is because you've arbitrarily decided that it's taboo and different.

There's no ethical or logical difference between eating dogs or pigs.

Dogs areEaten in Asia..what's the problem?

lassykk · 06-09-2019 3:32pm

If dog was on a menu somewhere I'd happily give it a shot. I'm an equal opportunity carnivore.

Lil Sally Anne Jnr. · 06-09-2019 3:33pm

Carmelo Quick Rattlesnake wrote: »

Dogs areEaten in Asia..what's the problem?

Ask the people that are offended by the publicity stunt?

antix80 · 06-09-2019 3:34pm

gerrybbadd wrote: »

"If you wouldn't eat a dog, why would you eat a pig?"

If you would eat a pig, why wouldn't you eat a human?

uck51js9zml2yt · 06-09-2019 3:34pm

lassykk wrote: »

If dog was on a menu somewhere I'd happily give it a shot. I'm an equal opportunity carnivore.

I prefer beef... Got a cow killed for the freezer this week.it was called Daisy!!

lassykk · 06-09-2019 3:36pm

Carmelo Quick Rattlesnake wrote: »

I prefer beef... Got a cow killed for the freezer this week.it was called Daisy!!

Never had the opportunity to sample dog myself but I find it's hard to beat a good rasher so I imagine I'd prefer pig to dog but as I said I'd happily try it were it an option.

JJayoo · 06-09-2019 3:37pm

Were there any vegans before social media?

Lil Sally Anne Jnr. · 06-09-2019 3:40pm

Hard to beat a good rasher indeed. When was the last time you saw a herd of pigs in a field in Ireland? Ah but sure it's grand, "love me a bit of bacon". Perhaps low-IQ, vacuous, mouth-breathing subspecies like yourselves should be used for meat instead.

Unearthly · 06-09-2019 3:41pm

JJayoo wrote: »

Were there any vegans before social media?

Yes I'd recommend to use a thing called Google. It's a decent search engine

pq0n1ct4ve8zf5 · 06-09-2019 3:42pm

Lil Sally Anne Jnr. wrote: »

It's good for children to ask questions about the world. Just because you find it disturbing, you shouldn't assume children are just as fearful.

This is what meat looks like. What's the big deal.

It's the same deliberately, needlessly antagonistic sh1te that the pro-lifers were at. Cause maximum upset to draw attention to yourself, alienate people, amp up the tension in an already tense argument. Children can ask questions about the world without this nightmare fuel.

Eire Go Brach · 06-09-2019 3:42pm

I’d agree with PETA. But not from there point of view.
Animals are animals. All we are is the most intelligent one on this planet. Also the top of the food chain.

I could not do it myself. But would not mind if someone else done it.

meeeeh · 06-09-2019 3:43pm

Lil Sally Anne Jnr. wrote: »

Hard to beat a good rasher indeed. When was the last time you saw a herd of pigs in a field in Ireland? Ah but sure it's grand, "love me a bit of bacon". Perhaps low-IQ, vacuous, mouth-breathing subspecies like yourselves should be used for meat instead.

Yeah religion. Only pure and plant eating will get to heaven.

Doctors room ghost · 06-09-2019 3:44pm

gerrybbadd wrote: »

"If you wouldn't eat a dog, why would you eat a pig?"

What a stupid statement that is. The reasons are multiple.

The same fcukin idiots had an add saying wool was as bad as fur.
Talk about being as dumb as a plank.
You’d know they know fcuk all about livestock spouting that verbal diarrhea

Unearthly · 06-09-2019 3:45pm

meeeeh wrote: »

Yeah religion. Only pure and plant eating will get to heaven.

Actually you will find the strongest defenders of meat online are very religious people and use god and bible as their reason for eating meat.

Vegans are statistically atheist or agnostic

meeeeh · 06-09-2019 3:47pm

Unearthly wrote: »

Actually you will find the strongest defenders of meat online are very religious people and use god and bible as their reason for eating meat.

Vegans are statistically atheist or agnostic

Yes the ones that need a replacement cult. Veganism is replacing religion in many people.

lassykk · 06-09-2019 3:52pm

Lil Sally Anne Jnr. wrote: »

Hard to beat a good rasher indeed. When was the last time you saw a herd of pigs in a field in Ireland? Ah but sure it's grand, "love me a bit of bacon". Perhaps low-IQ, vacuous, mouth-breathing subspecies like yourselves should be used for meat instead.

That genuinely made me chuckle!

I'm sincerely sorry if I triggered some anger in you.

Given my low IQ I shouldn't draw attention to the fact that it's not a "herd" of pigs but I'll give you a pass seen as you appear to be a bit emotional

Unearthly · 06-09-2019 3:52pm

meeeeh wrote: »

Yes the ones that need a replacement cult. Veganism is replacing religion in many people.

No! You are a cult! And my dad is bigger than yours!

meeeeh · 06-09-2019 3:53pm

Unearthly wrote: »

And my dad is bigger than yours!

Ok.

Lil Sally Anne Jnr. · 06-09-2019 3:54pm

meeeeh wrote: »

What's the point in bbq-ing fake dog? They should go for the real thing if they were looking for a response.

Not a very developed thinker are you.

meeeeh wrote: »

Anyway this is new religious cult that I have no interest joining. Mostly people just interested in controlling others what they eat and what they do.

As a society we have discussions around and make decisions about what people do all of the time.

For all we know you could have "no interest" in not littering, "no interest" in obeying traffic lights, "no interest" in asking a person's consent before you have sex with them.

Your apathy towards philosophical and moral issues is your problem, and offers not even the most threadbare defense of your views in a substantial conversation about animal welfare.

Unearthly · 06-09-2019 3:55pm

Doctors room ghost wrote: »

The same fcukin idiots had an add saying wool was as bad as fur.
Talk about being as dumb as a plank.
You’d know they know fcuk all about livestock spouting that verbal diarrhea

Are farmers on their smartphones visiting the vegan forum while protesting?

A lot of them in here today

Doctors room ghost · 06-09-2019 3:57pm

Lil Sally Anne Jnr. wrote: »

Hard to beat a good rasher indeed. When was the last time you saw a herd of pigs in a field in Ireland? Ah but sure it's grand, "love me a bit of bacon". Perhaps low-IQ, vacuous, mouth-breathing subspecies like yourselves should be used for meat instead.

If pigs were kept outdoors a package of rashers would cost you north of 20 quid.
It would cost way more to finish pigs outdoors with expended energy compared to indoor reared pigs. The same with broilers.
It would also take 2-3 times longer finish them.
All them costs would have to be passed on to consumers

meeeeh · 06-09-2019 3:57pm

Lil Sally Anne Jnr. wrote: »

Not a very developed thinker are you.

As a society we have discussions around and make decisions about what people do all of the time.

For all we know you could have "no interest" in not littering, "no interest" in obeying traffic lights, "no interest" in asking a person's consent before you have sex with them.

Your apathy towards philosophical and moral issues is your problem, and will be of the most remote concern to anyone trying to have a substantial conversation about animal welfare.

Christ sweetie usually it's me who's condescending to others. In my opinion you escalated your argument too quickly. It's better to delve into other arguments first before you start insulting intelligence. It's amateurish. But I applaud the zeal.

Lil Sally Anne Jnr. · 06-09-2019 3:59pm

Doctors room ghost wrote: »

If pigs were kept outdoors a package of rashers would cost you north of 20 quid.
It would cost way more to finish pigs outdoors with expended energy compared to indoor reared pigs. The same with broilers.
It would also take 2-3 times longer finish them.
All them costs would have to be passed on to consumers

Animal welfare is more important than some fat degenerate slug feeding his family a tiny four euro chicken every other night. Pay for quality. Eat less meat. Live with dignity. Follow your conscience.

Doctors room ghost · 06-09-2019 4:00pm

Unearthly wrote: »

Are farmers on their smartphones visiting the vegan forum while protesting?

A lot of them in here today

The add backfired spectacularly with them having to remove it by advice of veterinary surgeons on welfare grounds.
Shows them up as the clueless drum bangers that they are.maybe they should spend less time talking sh1te and read a book or talk to a farmer.

Unearthly · 06-09-2019 4:03pm

Doctors room ghost wrote: »

The add backfired spectacularly with them having to remove it by advice of veterinary surgeons on welfare grounds.
Shows them up as the clueless drum bangers that they are.maybe they should spend less time talking sh1te and read a book or talk to a farmer.

Jesus what has you so tetchy ?

Brexit? Protests? Being in a **** job?

uck51js9zml2yt · 06-09-2019 4:03pm

Unearthly wrote: »

Actually you will find the strongest defenders of meat online are very religious people and use god and bible as their reason for eating meat.

Vegans are statistically atheist or agnostic

Would love to see the stats on that if true.

lassykk · 06-09-2019 4:04pm

Lil Sally Anne Jnr. wrote: »

Animal welfare is more important than some fat degenerate slug feeding his family a tiny four euro chicken every other night. Pay for quality. Eat less meat. Live with dignity. Follow your conscience.

You're the gift that keeps giving. I must visit the Vegan forum more often if it's this entertaining.

Gone from insulting intelligence to personal appearance now.

Perhaps you should relax as it can't be good for your health. I always find a nice burger or a good fry is good for settling me down when I'm emotional

Lil Sally Anne Jnr. · 06-09-2019 4:04pm

lassykk wrote: »

Given my low IQ I shouldn't draw attention to the fact that it's not a "herd" of pigs

Good to see you are focused on the big issues. Mediocre people like yourself that spend minimal time reflecting on their actions are a dime a dozen.

Doctors room ghost · 06-09-2019 4:07pm

Unearthly wrote: »

Jesus what has you so tetchy ?

Brexit? Protests? Being in a **** job?

What did you think of petas add about wool being as bad as fur?

Lil Sally Anne Jnr. · 06-09-2019 4:09pm

lassykk wrote: »

You're the gift that keeps giving. I must visit the Vegan forum more often if it's this entertaining.

Oh I've really hit a nerve with you, haven't I. Let me guess, a lot of breakfast rolls in your life, family meals of cheap processed meat, cheap battery farmed chickens, and generally just a languid, intellectually moribond life, lacking in self-reflection, moral discipline, and abundant in cowardice.

_Brian · 06-09-2019 4:10pm

I had dog on one of my visits to China.
It was in a posh hotel buffet, and I thought “if you’d eat a pig why not try dog”

I’ll tell you why, it’s pure rubbish !

Gristly chewy tough, I was shocked to be honest, by far the worst meat I’ve ever tried.

TCP/IP · 06-09-2019 4:11pm

Lil Sally Anne Jnr. wrote: »

Good to see you are focused on the big issues. Mediocre people like yourself that spend minimal time reflecting on their actions are a dime a dozen.

Why are you been so derogatory to the poster you are completely out of order. Can you not have a conversation without personal attacks?

pq0n1ct4ve8zf5 · 06-09-2019 4:11pm

See, this is exactly the level of debate that PETA stunts generate. Everyone flailing around snipping and snarking, trying to land burns, getting personal. Nobody changes their mind, nothing changes, and any outside observers looking on are turned off the whole subject.

Doctors room ghost · 06-09-2019 4:12pm

Lil Sally Anne Jnr. wrote: »

Oh I've really hit a nerve with you, haven't I. Let me guess, a lot of breakfast rolls in your life, family meals of cheap processed meat, cheap battery farmed chickens, and generally just a languid, intellectually moribond life, lacking in self-reflection, moral discipline, and abundant in cowardice.

What are you on about battery farmed chicken.
That doesn’t make an ounce of sense.
A battery hen is for laying eggs and are not consumed by humans at end of life.they are processed for dog food.theres hardly any meat on them.
A broiler is the chicken people eat.
2 totally separate things.
Educate yourself

meeeeh · 06-09-2019 4:12pm

_Brian wrote: »

I had dog on one of my visits to China.
It was in a posh hotel buffet, and I thought “if you’d eat a pig why not try dog”

I’ll tell you why, it’s pure rubbish !

Gristly chewy tough, I was shocked to be honest, by far the worst meat I’ve ever tried.

I'd imagine it's fairly dry. You need a bit of marbling.

GooglePlus · 06-09-2019 4:14pm

No difference in eating a pig or a dog in terms of it being just another mammal with flesh that can be cooked.

Dogs have been domesticated however and us humans find it strange that they're eaten in some parts of the world, but if it was the pig that we domesticated all those 1000's of years ago, it could well be a fake pig on that BBQ.

I wouldn't try dog meat as I consider them pets but I wouldn't begrudge anyone who has tried it.

lassykk · 06-09-2019 4:16pm

Lil Sally Anne Jnr. wrote: »

Oh I've really hit a nerve with you, haven't I. Let me guess, a lot of breakfast rolls in your life, family meals of cheap processed meat, cheap battery farmed chickens, and generally just a languid, intellectually moribond life, lacking in self-reflection, moral discipline, and abundant in cowardice.

You couldn't be further from hitting a nerve. This is absolute gold and really brightened up my afternoon.

But just to play along

- Breakfast - scrambled egg with brown bread during the week - maple rashers with more brown bread at the weekend

- Cheap processed meat - No I prefer the slightly more expensive processed meat

- Surprisingly I don't eat a lot of chicken but I'm unsure where it comes from to be honest like a lot of other people

Your closing argument uses a lot of nice descriptive language which I applaud you for.

I have also not insulted your intelligence, lifestyle or personal appearance. I actually have no problem at all with vegans or vegetarians and my initial comment that I would try dog given the opportunity was genuine. Quite why that has upset you so much I'm not sure but I guess you might be having a bad day

Yester · 06-09-2019 4:16pm

What would happen to all the pigs if no one ate them?

Panrich · 06-09-2019 4:19pm

gerrybbadd wrote: »

"If you wouldn't eat a dog, why would you eat a pig?"

What a stupid statement that is. The reasons are multiple.

'A dog's got personality'

BBQ Dog is it for you?

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