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Claim I damaged a car

  • 31-03-2021 1:20pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,972 ✭✭✭


    I brought my mother to her doctor today. Parked in the surgery car park. When we came out there was a note on my windscreen saying I damaged a car in the car park, and a phone number.


    I know this didn't happen. What did happen was when I was entering the parking space, with a car each side, I thought I mightn't have enough turn so stopped, reversed a yard, stratightened up parked cleanly. We exited the car and went into the surgery.



    There was a person in the drivers seat in the car to my right and I think this is who has made the complaint. If he thinks something happened I don't know why he didn't say something there and then.



    What would be the best way to proceed with this?


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,105 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Heighway61 wrote: »
    I brought my mother to her doctor today. Parked in the surgery car park. When we came out there was a note on my windscreen saying I damaged a car in the car park, and a phone number.


    I know this didn't happen. What did happen was when I was entering the parking space, with a car each side, I thought I mightn't have enough turn so stopped, reversed a yard, stratightened up parked cleanly. We exited the car and went into the surgery.



    There was a person in the drivers seat in the car to my right and I think this is who has made the complaint. If he thinks something happened I don't know why he didn't say something there and then.



    What would be the best way to proceed with this?

    Ignore it until someone contacts you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,004 ✭✭✭Eggs For Dinner


    Take close up photos of every panel on your car and wait and see if the allegation is followed up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,972 ✭✭✭Heighway61


    Take close up photos of every panel on your car and wait and see if the allegation is followed up
    My car is a bit of an old jalopy with it's fair share of scuffs and scratches including one on front right bumper.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    The other driver may just be chancing their arm that you will ring and offer them a few hundred to shut them up.

    Just ring your insurer and tell them your story. Don't ring other driver.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,173 ✭✭✭Whocare


    To fair you might have hit there car as you said youself you're not best driver as you're car is full of scratches and damage


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,173 ✭✭✭Whocare


    Heighway61 wrote: »
    I brought my mother to her doctor today. Parked in the surgery car park. When we came out there was a note on my windscreen saying I damaged a car in the car park, and a phone number.


    I know this didn't happen. What did happen was when I was entering the parking space, with a car each side, I thought I mightn't have enough turn so stopped, reversed a yard, stratightened up parked cleanly. We exited the car and went into the surgery.



    There was a person in the drivers seat in the car to my right and I think this is who has made the complaint. If he thinks something happened I don't know why he didn't say something there and then.



    What would be the best way to proceed with this?
    More likely that person in other car seen you damage a car and put a note on you're windscreen and note on car you damaged I be expecting a visit from garda

    People don't usually make this type of thing up

    OP check if there any CCTV footage available


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,972 ✭✭✭Heighway61


    Whocare wrote: »
    To fair you might have hit there car as you said youself you're not best driver as you're car is full of scratches and damage
    Pretty sure I didn't hit another car.


    Where did I say I'm not the best driver? Been driving for 20 years and this is my first incident. The reason for scratches is the age of the car and the fact that it was used by two learner drivers in the past.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,105 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Whocare wrote: »
    More likely that person in other car seen you damage a car and put a note on you're windscreen and note on car you damaged I be expecting a visit from garda

    People don't usually make this type of thing up

    OP check if there any CCTV footage available

    People most definitely do.

    The person could have been sitting in their car and assumed the OP got really close. Waited till the OP left and then checked their car only to find some old damage they never knew existed. And then thought it was the OP.

    This happens all the time it's not a left field scenario.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,972 ✭✭✭Heighway61


    Whocare wrote: »
    More likely that person in other car seen you damage a car and put a note on you're windscreen and note on car you damaged I be expecting a visit from garda

    People don't usually make this type of thing up

    OP check if there any CCTV footage available
    Note said I damaged the note writer's car.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,972 ✭✭✭Heighway61


    How would I handle things if the Gardaí call?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,495 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Heighway61 wrote: »
    How would I handle things if the Gardaí call?

    Tell them that you never hit any car and tell them to come back with evidence if they want to say otherwise.


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,396 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Did the doors hit any of the cars next to you when you or your mother were getting out?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,173 ✭✭✭Whocare


    Heighway61 wrote: »
    Note said I damaged the note writer's car.

    Well that make no sense as why wouldn't he confront you then. I be ignoring him so unless there's a good explanation


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 216 ✭✭sham58107


    Heighway61 wrote: »
    How would I handle things if the Gardaí call?

    Exactly as above, and ignore it till someone contacts you, personally if somebody hit my especially in Surgery carpark, where parking is usually short term i would wait and talk to driver.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Heighway61 wrote: »
    How would I handle things if the Gardaí call?
    As you didn't hit a car there is nothing to worry about.
    You are not obligated to ring that driver.
    If Gardai ring, which I doubt, then you tell them what you told us and your insurer.

    Gardai won't touch this, they have enough with real crime to deal with. It's not a criminal matter, it's a civil matter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,868 ✭✭✭SteM


    Whocare wrote: »
    To fair you might have hit there car as you said youself you're not best driver as you're car is full of scratches and damage

    Wow, talk about projecting. Most car doors have scratches from ignorant dicks that knock them carparks, does that make the owners bad drivers?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,497 ✭✭✭cml387


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    Did the doors hit any of the cars next to you when you or your mother were getting out?

    This is what I was thinking.

    If someone opens the door into a car you are sitting in it can sound loud, whereas it may not register with the person opening the door.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,173 ✭✭✭Whocare


    biko wrote: »
    As you didn't hit a car there is nothing to worry about.
    You are not obligated to ring that driver.
    If Gardai ring, which I doubt, then you tell them what you told us and your insurer.

    Gardai won't touch this, it's not a criminal matter, it's a civil matter.
    Depends on garda. I have good garda follow up on situation like this it was on CCTV so made thing easier


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,972 ✭✭✭Heighway61


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    Did the doors hit any of the cars next to you when you or your mother were getting out?
    No, no doors hit. I went around and opened the door for my mother.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,289 ✭✭✭Schorpio


    I'm not saying this is a scam - but it certainly smells fishy.

    A scammers first play is always to get you to contact them. You see it all the time on scam emails (you've won X amount, so call this number). It's a simple way of weeding out those less susceptible to a scam.

    As others have said, do not call the number on the note. At all. An average person would have talked to you about it at the time, particularly if they were sitting in their car at the time of the 'incident'.

    What I would do is to contact the surgery or car park management company. See whether there is CCTV covering the car park. Even if there is, they may not release it. A lot of places won't unless the guards are involved. If they don't/won't give you the footage, I would just request that they do not delete the recording from today, as it could be required if this allegation comes to fruition. I would probably make that request in writing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,173 ✭✭✭Whocare


    Heighway61 wrote: »
    No, no doors hit. I went around and opened the door for my mother.

    Do you think there be any CCTV footage of it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,972 ✭✭✭Heighway61


    biko wrote: »
    As you didn't hit a car there is nothing to worry about.
    You are not obligated to ring that driver.
    If Gardai ring, which I doubt, then you tell them what you told us and your insurer.

    Gardai won't touch this, they have enough with real crime to deal with. It's not a criminal matter, it's a civil matter.
    Would the Gardaí not be obliged to follow up a complaint?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,972 ✭✭✭Heighway61


    Whocare wrote: »
    Do you think there be any CCTV footage of it
    Not sure if there is. It's a council car park.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 904 ✭✭✭Tazium


    Needs some form of evidence, innocent until proven otherwise. It's been mentioned already, ignore it. IF you are contacted by an insurance company explain what happened,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,774 ✭✭✭beachhead


    Tell them that you never hit any car and tell them to come back with evidence if they want to say otherwise.

    Say as little as possible to the police.You can acknowledge you were in a car park.Nothing else.It is private property and one person's word against another.The CCTV footage if any exists will show nothing of consequence unless the camera(s) are facing directly onto the cars involved-it becomes conjecture if cams at an angle or view obscured.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,972 ✭✭✭Heighway61


    beachhead wrote: »
    Say as little as possible to the police.You can acknowledge you were in a car park.Nothing else.It is private property and one person's word against another.The CCTV footage if any exists will show nothing of consequence unless the camera(s) are facing directly onto the cars involved-it becomes conjecture if cams at an angle or view obscured.
    Thanks. It's a county council car park, which is public? Would that make any difference to the situation?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,497 ✭✭✭cml387


    Heighway61 wrote: »
    Thanks. It's a county council car park, which is public? Would that make any difference to the situation?

    Any place to which the public have access is public, even if owned by a shopping centre or industrial estate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,972 ✭✭✭Heighway61


    Got on to the council who say the car park is not covered by council CCTV and they are not aware of private CCTV in the area.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,497 ✭✭✭cml387


    I'd agree with the advice to forget about it.

    If as you say you didn't hit anything, then the complainer can have no evidence to show the Gardai.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,566 ✭✭✭✭Calahonda52


    Don't ring the number for all sorts of reasons, even simple identity theft, they have your reg...
    If they call you, what note?

    Just a question, is the GP service using a Co Co carpark for its private clients?

    “I can’t pay my staff or mortgage with instagram likes”.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,289 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    What kind of person sits in their car while it gets hit by a door and doesn't say anything?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,264 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    DaveyDave wrote: »
    What kind of person sits in their car while it gets hit by a door and doesn't say anything?

    One who realised it was a harmless tap but late thought...'kerching!'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52,288 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Totally ignore it.
    As far as you’re concerned it’s a hoax or prank. If a Garda turns up tell him the same.
    You’re sure you hit nothing so don’t worry about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,497 ✭✭✭cml387


    DaveyDave wrote: »
    What kind of person sits in their car while it gets hit by a door and doesn't say anything?

    Errm

    I left Mrs CML in the car while I did a quick visit to Argos. When I came back she said that someone had opened the door into the side and then...then she got out to check it. I asked did she say anything to the driver concerned, now departed, she said no. There was no damage.

    I said that you've already put enough dings in it yourself in fairness.

    Actually I might have said the last bit in my head only.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,345 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    biko wrote:
    Just ring your insurer and tell them your story.


    If you do this then your insurer will assume there is a claim waiting to be made against you and it may affect your renewal.

    Without definitive proof, it's a he said / she said situation. I still don't understand how someone can claim you hit their car, if they didn't actually confront you at the time, unless they have cctv evidence.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 207 ✭✭MAYOMICK


    If you didnt do it you didnt do it and thats it.I was in a a situation recently where I was sitting in my car in a Council car park and another car tipped my back bumper causing paint damage.The other driver denied point blank hitting it.I reported it to Gardai and put in a claim with his insurance.They refused to deal with it and suggested I claim off my own insurance and I rang them and they said I would have an open claim on my Insurance while they tried to reclaim off his.I didnt go that route and I am now considering going the legal route but Im not sure if its worth my while.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,152 ✭✭✭893bet


    You better be sure you didn’t hit them. A dash cam in their car may prove you wrong.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭FileNotFound


    893bet wrote: »
    You better be sure you didn’t hit them. A dash cam in their car may prove you wrong.

    A dash am isn't worth a dam. Inadmissable either way.

    If you didn't hit them ignore it. If they have some proof and you're actually wrong in the end, then you deal with that.

    Be some oddball to not say it at the time or wait.

    Sounds like a chancer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,004 ✭✭✭Eggs For Dinner


    A dash am isn't worth a dam. Inadmissable either way.

    If you didn't hit them ignore it. If they have some proof and you're actually wrong in the end, then you deal with that.

    Be some oddball to not say it at the time or wait.

    Sounds like a chancer.

    Dashcam footage is golden. An insurer reserves the right to handle a claim as they deem appropriate. If the content is clear cut, it will be boxed off quickly


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,655 ✭✭✭i57dwun4yb1pt8


    A dash am isn't worth a dam. Inadmissable either way.

    If you didn't hit them ignore it. If they have some proof and you're actually wrong in the end, then you deal with that.

    Be some oddball to not say it at the time or wait.

    Sounds like a chancer.

    stop spouting rubbish - a dashcam works like a charm every time .
    been there done that

    if you didnt hit them i say forget about it , if someone contacts you , ask them for the proof .


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,031 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    Tazium wrote: »
    Needs some form of evidence, innocent until proven otherwise. It's been mentioned already, ignore it. IF you are contacted by an insurance company explain what happened,

    This isn't a criminal matter so there's no assumption of innocent. It'll be a civil case judged on the balance of probabilities which is why so many spurious claims are paid out, our judges like to give away money. So it's cheaper for insurance companies to pay out for spurious claims rather than pay a barrister then payout.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,173 ✭✭✭Whocare


    Heighway61 wrote: »
    I brought my mother to her doctor today. Parked in the surgery car park. When we came out there was a note on my windscreen saying I damaged a car in the car park, and a phone number.


    I know this didn't happen. What did happen was when I was entering the parking space, with a car each side, I thought I mightn't have enough turn so stopped, reversed a yard, stratightened up parked cleanly. We exited the car and went into the surgery.



    There was a person in the drivers seat in the car to my right and I think this is who has made the complaint. If he thinks something happened I don't know why he didn't say something there and then.



    What would be the best way to proceed with this?
    Any update on this


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,972 ✭✭✭Heighway61


    Whocare wrote: »
    Any update on this
    Not a dickie.


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