Is there any country you would not go to even if you were paid to go there?

Mrcaramelchoc · 12-06-2021 8:27am

Tuvalu

Bloody tuvaluans

Yourmama · 12-06-2021 8:32am

I'd go anywhere as long as it's relatively safe. Even if it's a kip, I want to see it and experience myself instead of relying on some snob opinion.

breezy1985 · 12-06-2021 8:35am

archfi wrote: »

Britain's countryside is beautiful, never been to Cornwall though that's top of the list for next time. It is stunning looking.

Cornwall is pretty poor looking by Irish standards when it comes to countryside and the towns are the usual grim UK dumps and full of the worst type of bulldog and spitfire Brits who moved down to get away from all the black people.

In general England outside London is somewhere I would never go again. I have no problem with places that are poor or rundown if there is a bit of life and culture but UK towns are black holes in that sense

Dempo1 · 12-06-2021 8:35am

Belarus, a more backward, horrid and dysfunctional place if there was ever one.

duffman13 · 12-06-2021 8:36am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Really? I haven't been but I would like to go. Was there anything in particular you didn't like ?

The people - Rude, zero engagement and no desire for tourists. I couldn't understand why people thought it was alright to spit on fairly packed public transport. Also getting ignored in multiple cities when asking questions at information in train stations etc. It wasn't just language barriers

The food - really a mixed bag here but I ended out going veggie after a few days for the rest of the trip due to poor quality of any meat product I tried. Couldn't tell me what meat it was most of the time

The communism - really is very obvious and the government are a great bunch of lads. Every night you check in to a hotel your details are uploaded on a database

The tourist attractions - I've been to over visited attractions but China takes the piss. No crowd control, no concept of queuing and selfie sticks flying everywhere. The absolute highlight was the great Wall. Went up, it was absolutely rammed, couldn't see more than 400 metres due to pollution. When we walked back down towards the bus, there was a huge crowd queuing (an actual que for once) and we wondered what it was. Turns out it was a photography shop where you could pay $5 to get the perfect photoshopped photo of yourself on a beautiful sunny and picturesque great wall of China. It at least gave me a laugh

Smog - Horrendous in any of the big cities. Visible pollution is a weird experience

People are saying India on here but id take India any day over China.

If you are planning on going to China then go for it, you'll either love it or I hate

12-06-2021 8:44am

duffman13 wrote: »

The communism - really is very obvious and the government are a great bunch of lads. Every night you check in to a hotel your details are uploaded on a database

That is not communism.

Communism is a stateless society.

maestroamado · 12-06-2021 8:50am

Cavan...

Dempo1 · 12-06-2021 8:55am

maestroamado wrote: »

Cavan...

Surprised at that, heard it was great Orange Peeling country (in your pocket) variety

12-06-2021 8:58am

breezy1985 wrote: »

Cornwall is pretty poor looking by Irish standards when it comes to countryside and the towns are the usual grim UK dumps and full of the worst type of bulldog and spitfire Brits who moved down to get away from all the black people.

In general England outside London is somewhere I would never go again. I have no problem with places that are poor or rundown if there is a bit of life and culture but UK towns are black holes in that sense

I’m always amazed people really think this kind of nonsense, Cornwall is every bit as beautiful as most places in Ireland.
Full of people who moved to get away from the black people? Maybe lay off the Daily Mail, you will find most people in England are fairly tolerant despite Brexit and BoJo. I grew up in an area which probably has about 30% BAME community and I can assure you I have never met anyone who has moved or is thinking of moving to get away from black people.

dxhound2005 · 12-06-2021 8:58am

Nauru. (Bird)sh1thole.

JohnCleary · 12-06-2021 9:02am

Mister Vain wrote: »

Myanmar

Conflict aside, the most amazing country in SE Asia. The people are such a joy to be in the company of.

breezy1985 · 12-06-2021 9:06am

Deleted User wrote: »

I’m always amazed people really think this kind of nonsense, Cornwall is every bit as beautiful as most places in Ireland.
Full of people who moved to get away from the black people? Maybe lay off the Daily Mail, you will find most people in England are fairly tolerant despite Brexit and BoJo. I grew up in an area which probably has about 30% BAME community and I can assure you I have never met anyone who has moved or is thinking of moving to get away from black people.

I am speaking from experience not anything I got from the Daily Mail. I found the West Country to be a terribly backward place devoid of life or culture (well I suppose fat old men with bulldog tattoos all over their necks drinking awful beer in crap dead pubs is a culture but not one I would ever want to be near again)

minikin · 12-06-2021 9:11am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I can assure you I have never met anyone who has SAID they moved or is thinking of moving to get away from black people.

Fixed your post.

Hamsterchops · 12-06-2021 9:41am

breezy1985 wrote: »

Cornwall is pretty poor looking by Irish standards when it comes to countryside and the towns are the usual grim UK dumps and full of the worst type of bulldog and spitfire Brits who moved down to get away from all the black people.

In general England outside London is somewhere I would never go again. I have no problem with places that are poor or rundown if there is a bit of life and culture but UK towns are black holes in that sense

Wow, is this based on some kind of hate thing you have going on personally or what?

Some beautiful towns & villages across England & Wales, and as for Cornwall, well its absolutely gorgeous, as are Dorset & Devon.
Not sure whats going on here, maybe you just hate English people & towns or something like that? I've been there & its beautiful.

Certainly can't be a country to avoid at all costs, can it?

Tec Diver · 12-06-2021 9:53am

archer22 wrote: »

The Netherlands..most pig ignorant place I ever encountered.

Anywhere in the middle east with the exception of Iran.

I've been to the Netherlands a few times for work over the years and found the locals to be quite friendly. Never had any issues. Actually friendlier than some places I've been in the US or UK.

Mad_maxx · 12-06-2021 9:55am

Genre.. wrote: »

Papa New Guinea

Nevr again

sounds very interesting , tell us a little please

12-06-2021 9:55am

Venezuela. Also huge portions of the UK, the levels of poverty and general grimness over there always surprises me. The people are nice though.

Would love to visit Iran.

Mad_maxx · 12-06-2021 9:56am

Montage of Feck wrote: »

Iran, as the successor of the Persian empire, has got three thousand years of history and culture going on, so don't rule it out completely.

stunningly beautiful women too

Wanderer78 · 12-06-2021 9:57am

Deleted User wrote: »

Venezuela. Also huge portions of the UK, the levels of poverty and general grimness over there always surprises me. The people are nice though.

Would love to visit Iran.

think all westerners should experience desperate poverty, puts life into perspective

Hamsterchops · 12-06-2021 10:07am

Genre.. wrote: »

Papa New Guinea

Nevr again

Cannibals aren't they, or do they shrink heads or some sh|t like that?
Little fellas with rubber bands on their willies. Lucky to get out of there with your life.

Mimon · 12-06-2021 10:12am

Montage of Feck wrote: »

Iran, as the successor of the Persian empire, has got three thousand years of history and culture going on, so don't rule it out completely.

They have a reputation as being the world's friendliest and hospitable people so would be strange to rule it out because of a ****ty government.

Mimon · 12-06-2021 10:17am

Mister Vain wrote: »

I can't say I've ever heard anyone say that about them. I mean a lot of people would say the Hungarians are rude and unfriendly which I would tend to agree with, but the Dutch are sound, or least they were when I was there anyway.

Lived there for a couple of years and they are definitely more blunt and individualistic than Irish people but most people are friendly.

Maybe the poster happened to run into a few aholes when there?

jmreire · 12-06-2021 10:38am

Mimon wrote: »

They have a reputation as being the world's friendliest and hospitable people so would be strange to rule it out because of a ****ty government.

True. I would go back there in a heartbeat. Cultured friendly people, and as you say, unfortunately ruled with an iron fist by hardline Islamists. To meet them in the privacy of their own homes, and see the transformation that takes place, especially with the women. Off with the hair covering, and street clothes, and full western gear on underneath is something else.Likewise to meet them outdoors at an open air restaurent, where everyone sits on beds ( bed frames, with a mesh base filled with pillows) They eat, drink ( yes there will be the odd bottle of illegal spirits in private circulation) and smoke shisha pipes.Simplest thing in the world to get into conversation with the adjoining "beds", they are so friendly.

12-06-2021 10:45am

I'd go pretty much anywhere except a warzone or place with a high likelihood of kidnap or terrorism if I was getting paid for it.

guy2231 · 12-06-2021 10:47am

Mimon wrote: »

They have a reputation as being the world's friendliest and hospitable people so would be strange to rule it out because of a ****ty government.

What is so bad about the government?

They don't get on with the USA is that it? Any arab government with a set of balls on them don't get on with the USA.

12-06-2021 10:48am

Signore Fancy Pants wrote: »

I would have zero interest in any country in South America, at all, at all, at all.

Anywhere else, grand.

Really missing out.

Amazing natural beauty, ancient history like the Incas, beautiful colonial architecture in parts. Fantastic cultures.

Best place that I've ever travelled.

Colombia and Bolivia particularly.

Peru, Chile, Brazil, Ecuador also

Argentina a bit over-rated imo.

whisky_galore · 12-06-2021 10:51am

Wanderer78 wrote: »

think all westerners should experience desperate poverty, puts life into perspective

The murderyness of the place would put life in perspective, or danger, as I'd rather call it.

Bojill · 12-06-2021 10:54am

Israel

Gregor Samsa · 12-06-2021 10:55am

Strumms wrote: »

I’d pay money never to set foot on Israeli soil..

Cool.I’ll send you my bank details, and you just don’t go. Deal?

An Ri rua · 12-06-2021 10:56am

The past

Alfred123 · 12-06-2021 10:56am

Ireland

Mimon · 12-06-2021 10:58am

guy2231 wrote: »

What is so bad about the government?

They don't get on with the USA is that it? Any arab government with a set of balls on them don't get on with the USA.

They are fairly repressive of their own people, they do back the likes of Hezzbollah etc.

Iranians are not Arabs btw.

Wanderer78 · 12-06-2021 10:58am

whisky_galore wrote: »

The murderyness of the place would put life in perspective, or danger, as I'd rather call it.

ive been in poor enough places alright, but not desperately poor, but i know people that have been, and had similar experiences, scary im sure, know people that had to be escorted about the place

Dr Turk Turkelton · 12-06-2021 10:59am

Wanderer78 wrote: »

think all westerners should experience desperate poverty, puts life into perspective

Completely agree. Just last year I visited Dungannon,Co Tyrone.
The desperate poverty there really brought home the realities of the third world.

jmreire · 12-06-2021 10:59am

guy2231 wrote: »

What is so bad about the government?

They don't get on with the USA is that it? Any arab government with a set of balls on them don't get on with the USA.

Talk to some Iranians, and they will tell you whats wrong with the Iranian Govt, but make damn sure you are not in Iran when having that conversation....But you are right about one thing, the Iranian people have balls, and in spades. The Nrs of them who have been killed by their own Govt when ever they have tried to overthrow the Ayatollahs runs into the thousands. For many, despite all all its flaws, life under the Shah of Iran was much better than what Iranians have now.When the Ayatollah Khomeini came to power, a war started with his neighbour Saddam Hussein ( Saddam started it ) that cost an estimated 500'000 Soldiers and 100'000 Civilian deaths. The present regime are direct political descendants of the Ayatollah.

whisky_galore · 12-06-2021 11:00am

Wanderer78 wrote: »

ive been in poor enough places alright, but not desperately poor, but i know people that have been, and had similar experiences, scary im sure, know people that had to be escorted about the place

I'll leave that to the UN, not me on my hols thanks.

Genre.. · 12-06-2021 11:00am

Israel - a belligerent lot

India - toilet bowl

12-06-2021 11:00am

Montage of Feck wrote: »

Iran, as the successor of the Persian empire, has got three thousand years of history and culture going on, so don't rule it out completely.

And the only times they've been at war in the last 200 years were to protect itself.

jmreire · 12-06-2021 11:01am

Deleted User wrote: »

I'd go pretty much anywhere except a warzone or place with a high likelihood of kidnap or terrorism if I was getting paid for it.

That would rule out a fair few places in todays world, which would otherwise be well worth a visit.:rolleyes:

Mad_maxx · 12-06-2021 11:01am

Tzardine wrote: »

I have lived and worked in a lot of the Middle East, but predominantly Kuwait and Iraq. The stereotype of Gulf countries is unfortunately false. They are full of culture, welcoming people, and truly beautiful landscapes. Obviously however there are issues which cannot be overlooked, chiefly the (mis)treatment of women and the LGBT community, but I do recommend people to visit and experience them. You just have to be mindful of the cultural differences and abide by them so long as you are there.

The one country I will never go back to is Italy. Outside of the countryside which is undoubtedly beautiful, the cities are sh1tholes, full of people trying to scam you at every opportunity.

muslims are known to be very hospitable people in terms of their culture , the chauvanistic attitudes are well founded though ,Pre covid , we did Air B +B and had a Saudi man and his three daughters ( aged circa three to eight ) stay for one night , he spoke incredibly casually about obvious sexism as if it was normal and this man was a good guest and had been living in Dubai for ten years so not like he never left Saudi

Funnily enough , less than a week later we had an israeli couple stay and her mother ( they were working in tech in dublin ) , very nice folk

Wanderer78 · 12-06-2021 11:04am

whisky_galore wrote: »

I'll leave that to the UN, not me on my hols thanks.

id be interested in visiting, but id have to be protected, it just wouldnt be safe heading into such situations, then again, i could be heading to an erupting volcano soon, so you d have to wonder, which type of death would be acceptable

An Ri rua · 12-06-2021 11:07am

Mad_maxx wrote: »

muslims are known to be very hospitable people in terms of their culture , the chauvanistic attitudes are well founded though ,Pre covid , we did Air B +B and had a Saudi man and his three daughters ( aged circa three to eight ) stay for one night , he spoke incredibly casually about obvious sexism as if it was normal and this man was a good guest and had been living in Dubai for ten years so not like he never left Saudi

Funnily enough , less than a week later we had an israeli couple stay and her mother ( they were working in tech in dublin ) , very nice folk

If they were there in the same week, it'd be like the Continental Hotel. Plastic cutlery for the guests dear...

Mad_maxx · 12-06-2021 11:10am

breezy1985 wrote: »

Cornwall is pretty poor looking by Irish standards when it comes to countryside and the towns are the usual grim UK dumps and full of the worst type of bulldog and spitfire Brits who moved down to get away from all the black people.

In general England outside London is somewhere I would never go again. I have no problem with places that are poor or rundown if there is a bit of life and culture but UK towns are black holes in that sense

villages in rural England make our nice ones look like slums

our villages are mostly ugly in appearance , i accept that England has plenty of towns that are dumps in the likes of the Midlands but the likes of the Lake district , the Home counties and the South West have beautiful villages

Timberrrrrrrr · 12-06-2021 11:11am

jmreire wrote: »

Talk to some Iranians, and they will tell you whats wrong with the Iranian Govt, but make damn sure you are not in Iran when having that conversation....But you are right about one thing, the Iranian people have balls, and in spades. The Nrs of them who have been killed by their own Govt when ever they have tried to overthrow the Ayatollahs runs into the thousands. For many, despite all all its flaws, life under the Shah of Iran was much better than what Iranians have now.When the Ayatollah Khomeini came to power, he started a war with his neighbour Saddam Hussein that cost an estimated 500'000 Soldiers and 100'000 Civilian deaths. The present regime are direct political descendants of the Ayatollah.

It was actually Hussain that started the Iran/Iraq war.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.history.com/.amp/topics/middle-east/iran-iraq-war

Started by Iraq dictator Saddam Hussein in September 1980, the war was marked by indiscriminate ballistic-missile attacks, extensive use of chemical weapons and attacks on third-country oil tankers in the Persian Gulf.

When Saddam Hussein, president of Iraq, quite deliberately started the war, he miscalculated on two counts

12-06-2021 11:13am

4Ad wrote: »

I really enjoyed my brief backpacking spell in Mexico, never scared..people were great, food was ok, great people.
Never went to Australia, never want to go to Australia.
Flew over it to NZ...That was enough.
Solely based on the Australians I have met on my travels !!

Nobody is missing out on not going to Australia.

Australia can be summarised as a place with a one or two ok cities (albeit completely lacking in any history and over-populated with bogan muppets on one-hand and insufferable hipster gobshytes on the other-hand) and the rest of the place is made of absolute nothingness, beaches and sh1thole towns that look like they were built for a fiver from plywood. beaches get boring after about 20 minutes unless you're doing some sort of activity. and besides it's too hot to go to a beach a lot of the time. The couple of other things worth seeing are about 3,000 miles apart.

I only went there for a couple of work project trips and a short "holiday" tint as part of a longer travel trip. Should have skipped it on the holiday but tbh.

Can understand people going there to work maybe as it's attractive economically but it's certainly not worth a holiday.

So so many better places in the world to visit.

It's also possibly one of the worst value for money places in the world.

Mad_maxx · 12-06-2021 11:15am

Mimon wrote: »

They have a reputation as being the world's friendliest and hospitable people so would be strange to rule it out because of a ****ty government.

the Yanks back the Saudis over the Iranians , the Iranians are like swedes relative to those Wahabi espousing barbarians in Riyadh

what does that say about America ?

12-06-2021 11:16am

jmreire wrote: »

True. I would go back there in a heartbeat. Cultured friendly people, and as you say, unfortunately ruled with an iron fist by hardline Islamists. To meet them in the privacy of their own homes, and see the transformation that takes place, especially with the women. Off with the hair covering, and street clothes, and full western gear on underneath is something else.Likewise to meet them outdoors at an open air restaurent, where everyone sits on beds ( bed frames, with a mesh base filled with pillows) They eat, drink ( yes there will be the odd bottle of illegal spirits in private circulation) and smoke shisha pipes.Simplest thing in the world to get into conversation with the adjoining "beds", they are so friendly.

How easy/hard is it to get a tourist visa?

Signore Fancy Pants · 12-06-2021 11:16am

glasso wrote: »

Really missing out.

Amazing natural beauty, ancient history like the Incas, beautiful colonial architecture in parts. Fantastic cultures.

Best place that I've ever travelled.

Colombia and Bolivia particularly.

Peru, Chile, Brazil, Ecuador also

Argentina a bit over-rated imo.

Nah, you are only missing out if its somewhere you want to go, but don't.

In that case, everyone here is "missing out".

12-06-2021 11:18am

glasso wrote: »

Nobody is missing out on not going to Australia.

Australia can be summarised as a place with a one or two ok cities (albeit completely lacking in any history and over-populated with bogan muppets on one-hand and insufferable hipster gobshytes on the other-hand) and the rest of the place is made of absolute nothingness, beaches and sh1thole towns that look like they were built for a fiver from plywood. beaches get boring after about 20 minutes unless you're doing some sort of activity. and besides it's too hot to go to a beach a lot of the time. The couple of other things worth seeing are about 3,000 miles apart.

I only went there for a couple of work project trips and a short "holiday" tint as part of a longer travel trip. Should have skipped it on the holiday but tbh.

Can understand people going there to work maybe as it's attractive economically but it's certainly not worth a holiday.

So so many better places in the world to visit.

It's also possibly one of the worst value for money places in the world.

A neighbour of mine has a daughter in Australia and he went to visit her for three weeks a while back.

He pulled back into the driveway 8 days later.

12-06-2021 11:21am

Signore Fancy Pants wrote: »

Nah, you are only missing out if its somewhere you want to go, but don't.

In that case, everyone here is "missing out".

so what is behind your desire to avoid South America.

interested to hear about it as it's genuinely the most fascinating continent that I've ever travelled.

Is there any country you would not go to even if you were paid to go there?

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