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I.S. 10101 - The replacement for ET101:2008

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 48 Genre..


    Prove dead and isolate locally

    Avoid direct contact

    Not much else you can do


  • Registered Users Posts: 41 somebodude


    Q about IS10101

    I'm just looking up prices of stuff, in advance of getting an electrician to do it properly, but there are few things I might misunderstand

    • RCBO-type-AC - are these not still recomended for showers, immersion heaters and induction hobs ?
    • 1-pole versus '1P+N' - is that the new recommended thing, to cut off both the live and neutral when theres's a fault? is there and implications for eejits like me occasionally rewiring a socket or light fitting ? (the 1P+N cuold be twice the price it seems)
    • cable specs - what should I be looking up the prices of, in terms of (a) fusebox to shower, immersion heater ; (b) to socket loops (c) lighting loops. Lights are of course these days all low power, and conversely there's lots more going onto sockets than a few decades ago.
    • - heavy socket cable, IIUC, is supposed to be three insulated cores now, rather than two insulated plus bare earth.
    • - also the specs for plastic have changed, low halogen or something. What should I be looking at the prices of ?


    thanks in advance



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭kirk.


    Type AC rcds work on mains AC fault currents so is ok for resistive loads only

    1P+N rcbos means solid neutral pole afaik, only live is switched

    Electrical wholesalers will be up to speed on cables etc.



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,603 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    My understanding is that RCD’s and RCBO’s must break both poles to be compliant with IS10101. However I can’t seem to find where it states this.

    Regarding "cable specs" the lrequirement is that cables shall as a minimum meet the requirements of Class Dca s2, d2, a2 or higher in accordance with I.S. EN 50575. In addition, cables shall be tested in accordance with I.S. EN 61034-2.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭kirk.


    That's the way it should be imo , break both poles



  • Registered Users Posts: 41 somebodude


    FYI I'm apparently able to ask ChatGPT questions about IS10101

    me> are wago-type lever clamo wire connectors acceptable in IS10101

    bot> Yes, Wago-type lever clamp wire connectors are acceptable under IS10101. The standard does not specify the use of a particular brand or type of connector, but rather focuses on the requirements for the electrical installation as a whole, including proper connection of conductors. Wago-type lever clamp wire connectors are a widely used and accepted type of connector in the electrical industry due to their ease of use, reliability, and safety features. However, it is important to ensure that the connectors being used meet the appropriate standards for electrical safety and performance.

    I wonder if it's true ... ;)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,506 ✭✭✭10-10-20




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭kirk.


    Handy little chart there last time I was researching it .Can't say i understand fault currents much

    Type A trips for pulsating AC and isn't blinded by <6mA smooth DC

    Type B operates on smooth DC fault currents

    B and F do everything an A and AC does



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